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Vectis
20-05-2009, 11:05 PM
Because I didn't wish to take a different thread even more off-topic, I'd just like to point out to anyone who might be interested (one individual in particular) that VectisVibe DOES carry a backup sound system.
OK so it wouldn't win any awards for quality but it works and it would get me by until I could get my spare half-decent PA shipped across to the venue (usually within about half an hour max).
I carry a Behringer EP1500 amp, a pair of nobrand full-range 12" cabs running at something like 250W RMS, and also have on board a spare mixer, spare playout by way of an SDJ1, a laptop and if needs be I can switch the lighting rig to sound-active or plug in a couple of CA8s and dedicate the DMX computer to audio. Plus spare cables, connectors, fuses, soldering iron yada yada.
rob1963
20-05-2009, 11:17 PM
I believe there is nobody on this forum who carries more back up gear than your good self, Vectis.
Respect!
:D :D :D
Vectis
20-05-2009, 11:23 PM
I was just responding to the claim posted elsewhere that nobody carries backup audio gear, that was all.
But yes, I am deserving of my title :D
Tony Scott
21-05-2009, 06:39 AM
I believe there is nobody on this forum who carries more back up gear than your good self, Vectis.
:D :D :D
hmmmmm......not sure about that, I might?? :D :D
...after loosing my complete sound system due to a mixer putting 230v through the signal output and taking every driver, processor and amp out I ALWAYS carry backup audio!!
Larry B Entertainment
21-05-2009, 06:55 AM
Because I didn't wish to take a different thread even more off-topic, I'd just like to point out to anyone who might be interested (one individual in particular) that VectisVibe DOES carry a backup sound system.
Max will be able to sleep better tonight now :)
CRAZY K
21-05-2009, 07:29 AM
I believe there is nobody on this forum who carries more back up gear than your good self, Vectis.
Respect!
:D :D :D
You havent seen the Yorkshire White Tardis obviously Rob:D
Excaliburs White Van packed out with blow your head off speakers and amps.
:Laugh: :Laugh:
CRAZY K
Vectis
21-05-2009, 08:45 AM
OK so that's three. Anyone else?
That's another Max Myth debunked :)
I carry backups also.
Spare mixer and CD players.
Also a spare amp 99% of the time as well.
As the Actor system is an active system it has all the processing gumpf in the full range unit of the system i have a spare top cab, and because two of the four bass speakers are passive you can get away with linking out of the top unit into a standalone amp and then into the passive bass cabs.
I know there is a very remote chance that both full range units could develop a fault, but I think i've got a solution for most circumstances.:D
rob1963
21-05-2009, 09:00 AM
My back up consists of 3 spare ipods, an IDJ2 playout system incorporating a mixer, a spare amp, a desk top CD player with 5 CDs containing my 100 most played party tracks and a spare for every lead & lamp I use.
That's it.
Therefore, if my mic packs up, there will be no talking, and if both speakers go, it's goodnight Vienna!
OllieJames
21-05-2009, 09:17 AM
My back up consists of 3 spare ipods, an IDJ2 playout system incorporating a mixer, a spare amp, a desk top CD player with 5 CDs containing my 100 most played party tracks and a spare for every lead & lamp I use.
That's it.
Therefore, if my mic packs up, there will be no talking, and if both speakers go, it's goodnight Vienna!
:Laugh:
I carry a spare mixer, and am just about to buy back up dual players.
andyw
21-05-2009, 09:23 AM
spare cd decks/mixer/500w amp and 2 active speakers for sound and leads of course,
Shaun
21-05-2009, 09:27 AM
OK so that's three. Anyone else?
That's another Max Myth debunked :)
I also carry full audio back-up.
From what I understand, Max isn't a working DJ (correct me if I'm wrong). So I fail to see where he's drawing his conclusions from. Not from practical experience it would seem.
Any DJ that's serious about their profession, and serious about providing the best service possible to their clients would carry backup!
CRAZY K
21-05-2009, 09:38 AM
Therefore, if my mic packs up, there will be no talking,
Just let the music do the ----uh oh here comes Darren;)
:sofa: :sofa: :sofa:
CRAZY K
PropellerHeadCase
21-05-2009, 09:41 AM
I have three amps, could get by with one, I use a CD MIX III so if the lap-top goes I can go straight to CD or MP3 CD, I have a spare mixer if the mixer goes. I am only driving a Ford Galaxy, not a van, so I have back-ups of the things most likely to go wrong. That said, I have two levels of cut-out power conditioning on all my delicate electronic (mixer, lap-top and cross-over/processor), so the chances of things going wrong with those are significantly decreased.
djhago
21-05-2009, 09:48 AM
I also carry backup and have had to do an amp swapout halfway through a show.
Anyone not carrying backup is asking for a whole heap of trouble.
andyw
21-05-2009, 10:03 AM
I also carry full audio back-up.
From what I understand, Max isn't a working DJ (correct me if I'm wrong). So I fail to see where he's drawing his conclusions from. Not from practical experience it would seem.
Any DJ that's serious about their profession, and serious about providing the best service possible to their clients would carry backup!
your right again, just thinking that reply could also fit in the 10 best ways to wed in style thread, another reason to choose a professional over a friend
Solitaire Events Ltd
21-05-2009, 10:04 AM
I carry a Behringer EP1500 amp, a pair of nobrand full-range 12" cabs running at something like 250W RMS, and also have on board a spare mixer, spare playout by way of an SDJ1, a laptop and if needs be I can switch the lighting rig to sound-active or plug in a couple of CA8s and dedicate the DMX computer to audio. Plus spare cables, connectors, fuses, soldering iron yada yada.
Well now...as spares...
I carry a Denon DNX-500 cased with a DAC-2, pair of EV SXA100 active cabs, spare Sony Vaio laptop, spare SM58 and PG58 (not sure why you wouldn't have a spare mic....) and a million spare cables and general spares in a large flightcase.
Do I win? I carry more amps than Vectis! :D
Vectis
21-05-2009, 10:30 AM
Well now...as spares...
I carry a Denon DNX-500 cased with a DAC-2, pair of EV SXA100 active cabs, spare Sony Vaio laptop, spare SM58 and PG58 (not sure why you wouldn't have a spare mic....) and a million spare cables and general spares in a large flightcase.
Do I win? I carry more amps than Vectis! :D
Err... hang on... I was only listing the spare AUDIO setup :p
But yes, you carry more amps. But then the vast majority of my venues are within 6 miles of home - and over here we call a car waiting to overtake a horse a traffic jam :) - and there's plenty of spares here too.
Larry B Entertainment
21-05-2009, 10:46 AM
Therefore, if my mic packs up, there will be no talking, and if both speakers go, it's goodnight Vienna!
I cant believe that someone with your experience and professionalism doesn't at least carry a cheap spare mic just in case :eek:
Solitaire Events Ltd
21-05-2009, 10:51 AM
Err... hang on... I was only listing the spare AUDIO setup :p
But yes, you carry more amps. But then the vast majority of my venues are within 6 miles of home - and over here we call a car waiting to overtake a horse a traffic jam :) - and there's plenty of spares here too.
Actually, I have to admit I only take the speakers if I am further than 10 miles away and can't nip back if there's a problem with both actives.
Dynamic Entertainment
21-05-2009, 11:10 AM
My backup consists of:
- dual cd players for if the laptop dies,
- and the internal players on the lappy for if the cd players die.
- A 2u Monacor/Stageline backup mixer, built and wired in so its just a case
of switching it on and only loosing 2 seconds of music.
- Speakers are active, so can limp through a night if one goes, but just to be
on the safe side, i keep the skytec actives in the trailer just in case (if im
more than a few miles away).
SC Events
21-05-2009, 12:30 PM
In my console I have KAM KCD1000 CD decks as a back-up, incase my Laptop dies (Yes, I use laptop as my main playout system :D)
I have a Behringer VMX1000 mixer as back-up and I now have a Behringer EP1500 Amp too (thanks to Martin (VectisVibe) :beer1: )
I have spare leads for just about everything, but as it all has to fit in a 3-Door Ford fiesta Hatchback, I haven't got room for spare speakers.
Shaun
21-05-2009, 12:52 PM
I carry a lot less backup since I moved to an active system.
Previously I took my main system, plus 2 back up amps, a backup mixer, back up cd playout system, and 2 backup speakers. As well as a huge assorment of tools and spare cabling.
These days I have my cortex in my flightcase alongside my Denon. I also have a spare mixer in the van as well as one spare active mackie (just in case). Plus all the tools and cables.
I defintely carry a lot less than I used to.
rob1963
21-05-2009, 01:58 PM
not sure why you wouldn't have a spare mic
I cant believe that someone with your experience and professionalism doesn't at least carry a cheap spare mic just in case :eek:
I've just never seen it as a necessity, partly because I've never had a mic pack up on me (what CAN go wrong with one?), and partly because if it DID go wrong, it wouldn't be the end of the world, as it wouldn't affect the music.
It would just be the same as a situation I was in about 5 years ago, when I completely lost my voice and had a wedding reception to do, so I literally couldn't say a word all night.
I remember that function went really well.
Larry B Entertainment
21-05-2009, 02:51 PM
In my console I have KAM KCD1000 CD decks as a back-up, incase my Laptop dies (Yes, I use laptop as my main playout system :D)
And you call yourself a real DJ ? :ner:
rob1963
21-05-2009, 02:55 PM
I forgot to mention earlier that I also carry 4 extra IEC power leads.
These are in case my lighting controller blows up, in which case I could plug my 4 main effects directly into the mains, so it's only the pinspots I would lose...which wouldn't be a major problem.
Solitaire Events Ltd
21-05-2009, 03:31 PM
I've just never seen it as a necessity
Do you find it a necessity to speak at a disco?
rob1963
21-05-2009, 03:47 PM
Do you find it a necessity to speak at a disco?
No, I find it's playing the MUSIC that's the necessity.
I've discovered through experience that it's NOT a necessity to speak at a disco, as I've done a wedding reception when I'd lost my voice & therefore couldn't say a word all night...and it was a really good do!
:)
JAMdisco
21-05-2009, 03:52 PM
I've just never seen it as a necessity, partly because I've never had a mic pack up on me (what CAN go wrong with one?), and partly because if it DID go wrong, it wouldn't be the end of the world, as it wouldn't affect the music.
But surely you must NEED a microphone for the quiz nights or do you use the venues?
rob1963
21-05-2009, 03:58 PM
But surely you must NEED a microphone for the quiz nights or do you use the venues?
Yes, I do need a microphone for the quiz nights, and yes I use my own.
I carry a spare lead, as that's the most likely thing to cause problems.
If the microphone itself packed up at a quiz night, I could easily get away with talking loudly without even using my PA system.
I'm aware of plenty of pub quiz nights run by the staff themselves where they don't even use a pa system.
As I asked before, what IS likely to go wrong with a mic anyway?
:shrug:
kjdiscos
21-05-2009, 04:12 PM
Carry 2 laptops, So if one went down swap to the other,
Run active tops so unlikely both would die, Run a passive bin system, The other week i burnt out one of the bass drivers, So quickly repatched the system and turned the active full range, Ok not as loud but disaster adverted.
So in essence carry 3 amps, I.E bass amp then amp in each cab, If mixer dies i can connect my bcd3000 direct to a mixer, So that will double as backup there
Solitaire Events Ltd
21-05-2009, 04:12 PM
Have a day off Rob....
Solitaire Events Ltd
21-05-2009, 04:14 PM
I've discovered through experience that it's NOT a necessity to speak at a disco, as I've done a wedding reception when I'd lost my voice & therefore couldn't say a word all night...and it was a really good do!
:)
It is a necessity to announce the bride and groom, buffet, any H&S announcements.....but what is the point of discussing this.
Honestly, a DJ without a spare mic.....:bang:
daz226
21-05-2009, 04:18 PM
never mind that ,,,,,a dj that says nothing in my view can not interact with the crowd. i use the mic a fair bit and have rave reviews as a result.
my nephew was married not long ago and the dj said nothing all night and the comments was that he was not a great dj regardless of the music he was pumping out.
i carry a spare corded mic 2 vhf mics and spare batterys
with out a mic it aint dj'ing its just putting music on and you can train a monkey to do that.
PropellerHeadCase
21-05-2009, 04:27 PM
never mind that ,,,,,a dj that says nothing in my view can not interact with the crowd.
All together now...
He let's the music do the talking ;)
rob1963
21-05-2009, 04:55 PM
Have a day off Rob....
In a few years time, EVERY day will be a day off!
:D :D :D
It is a necessity to announce the bride and groom, buffet, any H&S announcements
Then how did I manage to do a wedding reception without announcing ANYTHING...which went really well, and which did NOT receive any complaints?
The only really important announcement is the first dance, and I used a dry voiceover from a CD of wedding jingles, voiceovers & music for this. Job done!
but what is the point of discussing this.
Because this is a forum, which is a place where people discuss things, and because this thread is about back up equipment.
IHonestly, a DJ without a spare mic.....:bang:
Yes...that's me!
There is no right or wrong when it comes to back up equipment.
As you probably know, there are people on this forum who carry NO back up gear, and others who carry two entire sets of gear with them as well as more stuff on top of that.
I use my common sense and fall somewhere in the middle.
I base my back up decisions on how essential each bit of kit is to my set up and its likelyhood of going wrong (based on 25 years experience & the experiences of others).
I've never let anyone down through equipment failure in 25 years, which suggests I get things just about right.
Incidentally, I'm still waiting for someone to suggest what is likely to go wrong with my corded switchless SM58 microphone, and their honest opinion as to the chances of that actually happening...especially as I've never had a mic go wrong in nearly 3,000 gigs.
OllieJames
21-05-2009, 05:01 PM
Incidentally, I'm still waiting for someone to suggest what is likely to go wrong with my corded switchless SM58 microphone, and their honest opinion as to the chances of that actually happening...especially as I've never had a mic go wrong in nearly 3,000 gigs.
SM58s never go wrong? I've got 5 of my grandads that he toured with ten's of years ago and they all work fine? :confused:
pagan_flame
21-05-2009, 05:16 PM
Playout: Primary console has laptop, SDJ-2 card player and dual CD decks. I have a backup laptop in the van... plus a secondary console with dual CD decks and mixer plus inputs for the laptop.
... and a CD walkman... and a mini-disc player with a party mix already loaded up (I make that a 2-stage backup at the primary level with 3 more backup stages behind that...:eek: )
Sound: Commonly running 2 x active tops and 1 x active sub... backup is 2 x 15" active cabs, which could replace either tops or sub as required...
Microphones: 2 cordless mics off a Kam rack UHF receiver plus corded Stanton headphone / boom mike... with an SM58 and a Sony corded mic in the van as backup.
rob1963
21-05-2009, 05:16 PM
SM58s never go wrong? I've got 5 of my grandads that he toured with ten's of years ago and they all work fine? :confused:
Ollie,
Someone suggested I'm making a big mistake by not carrying a spare microphone.
I therefore asked why he thinks that, what is likely to go wrong with my SM58, and what the chances are of something going wrong with it, and I'm still awaiting an answer.
I think exactly the same way as you. The SM58 is a rugged industry standard microphone. Mine doesn't even have a switch to go wrong, and I carry a spare lead for it, as I think that's the most likely thing to cause a problem.
I've never had ANY microphone go wrong EVER, and my current SM58 is the most expensive & most rugged microphone I've ever used.
:shrug:
Solitaire Events Ltd
21-05-2009, 05:20 PM
There is no right or wrong when it comes to back up equipment.
You can get a decent back up mic for £35 and not carrying one is very very unprofessional IMO. It doesn't matter whether you have done 3000 gigs or 3 gigs, the mic could still go wrong.
Perhaps it doesn't bother you, but it would me.
We'll agree to disagree on this yet again...
I'll carry on being prepared for any eventuality.:)
rob1963
21-05-2009, 05:27 PM
It doesn't matter whether you have done 3000 gigs or 3 gigs, the mic could still go wrong.
But WHAT is likely to go wrong with it?
As far as I know, it contains no electronic components & no moving parts.
:shrug:
Perhaps it doesn't bother you, but it would me.
We'll agree to disagree on this yet again...
No problem.
I'll carry on being prepared for any eventuality.:)
And I'll carry on being prepared for any REALISTIC eventuality!
:D :D :D
Jiggles
21-05-2009, 05:35 PM
But WHAT is likely to go wrong with it?
As far as I know, it contains no electronic components & no moving parts.
:shrug:
What happens if you drop it. Broken capsule. Things like that.
Excalibur
21-05-2009, 05:38 PM
I was just responding to the claim posted elsewhere that nobody carries backup audio gear, that was all.
But yes, I am deserving of my title :DAll hail Vectis. :bowdown:
hmmmmm......not sure about that, I might?? :D :D
...after loosing my complete sound system due to a mixer putting 230v through the signal output and taking every driver, processor and amp out I ALWAYS carry backup audio!!
Ouch! :eek: :( :( :( That's got to sound like bad luck.
You havent seen the Yorkshire White Tardis obviously Rob:D
Excaliburs White Van packed out with blow your head off speakers and amps.
:Laugh: :Laugh:
CRAZY K
A wide range was available for testing when Alan came up for a listen. ;) ;) :D :D
I've just never seen it as a necessity, partly because I've never had a mic pack up on me (what CAN go wrong with one?), and partly because if it DID go wrong, it wouldn't be the end of the world, as it wouldn't affect the music.
Punter damage. :( Steve had one headbutt his SM58 I seem to remember. ;) :D
It would just be the same as a situation I was in about 5 years ago, when I completely lost my voice and had a wedding reception to do, so I literally couldn't say a word all night.
I remember that function went really well.
You may be surprised Rob. We aren't. :p :D :D
Yes, I do need a microphone for the quiz nights, and yes I use my own.
I carry a spare lead, as that's the most likely thing to cause problems.
If the microphone itself packed up at a quiz night, I could easily get away with talking loudly without even using my PA system.
I'm aware of plenty of pub quiz nights run by the staff themselves where they don't even use a pa system.
As I asked before, what IS likely to go wrong with a mic anyway?
:shrug:
The cable connection, but I'd still carry a spare mic. How could I deny any audience the opportunity to hear the pearls of wisdom I cast before them?
OK, my cunning plan re backup.
Behringer Mixer amp, so there's an all in one if mixer or amp die. Usually a speaker or two in the van, or the venue. :D :D I've even hired a pair out to the DJ next door once. :D Two Cortex and a laptop, cables galore, four corded mics, two radio, and quite a few bits and bobs.
But WHAT is likely to go wrong with it?
As far as I know, it contains no electronic components & no moving parts.
Actually you could be wrong on both counts. The capsule contains a diaphragm, which moves due to sound waves, converting them to electricity. There's your moving part. If you had a condenser mic, it also needs electrical power, so there's your electronic components.
There's other folk besides Propeller who can be picky. :D :D
rob1963
21-05-2009, 05:39 PM
What happens if you drop it. Broken capsule. Things like that.
I've already dropped it loads of times...you should see all the scrapes on it!
I usually work on a carpet covered surface, so it has a soft landing anyway!
The cable connection, but I'd still carry a spare mic. How could I deny any audience the opportunity to hear the pearls of wisdom I cast before them?
Now that's a very good point!
However, I never cast any pearls of wisdom, so it doesn't apply to me!
:D :D :D
OllieJames
21-05-2009, 05:59 PM
What happens if you drop it. Broken capsule. Things like that.
My ones have survived years (20/30 years?) of being chucked about and haven't had an issue?
Anyway, I carry a spare mic anyway.
Ajaysdisco
21-05-2009, 07:52 PM
You can get a decent back up mic for £35 and not carrying one is very very unprofessional
:agree:
You could also say the same about headphones, what happens it they fail?
Ok, you could still continue but it wouldn’t be as easy.
Excalibur
21-05-2009, 08:06 PM
:agree:
You could also say the same about headphones, what happens it they fail?
Ok, you could still continue but it wouldn’t be as easy.
As long as I could still see the displays on the Cortex, I'd not struggle unduly. ;) :D :D
Penfold42
21-05-2009, 08:09 PM
I don't carry extra speakers....(looks around for wood)...but everything else is backed up.
Including leads. :)
Tony Scott
21-05-2009, 08:32 PM
SM58...most likely failure is the switch(switched version) followed by the 3-Pin connector. I've had both go on me at different times.
I have my trusty Shure wireless and carry a Behringer 3-pack of Dynamics, good solid cheap mics. Perfect for Karaoke abuse and back-up! ;)
pagan_flame
21-05-2009, 08:59 PM
What happens if you drop it. Broken capsule. Things like that.
A quote from somewhere has always stuck in my brain re: the SM58;
"...It's the only mike that you can use as a hammer to build the stage with, and then sing on the stage with afterwards..." :D :beer1:
rob1963
21-05-2009, 10:56 PM
You could also say the same about headphones, what happens it they fail? Ok, you could still continue but it wouldn’t be as easy.
I can't remember the last time I used my headphones.
As for getting a spare pair, that would be like putting money down the drain!
I don't carry extra speakers....(looks around for wood)...but everything else is backed up.
Including leads. :)
I don't carry extra speakers either...and no doubt someone will be along soon to tell me THAT is also very very unprofessional.
Considering how very very unprofessional I apparantly am, it's amazing I get any work at all!
:shrug:
DeckstarDeluxe
21-05-2009, 11:15 PM
I can't remember the last time I used my headphones.
As for getting a spare pair, that would be like putting money down the drain!
I don't carry extra speakers either...and no doubt someone will be along soon to tell me THAT is also very very unprofessional.
Considering how very very unprofessional I apparantly am, it's amazing I get any work at all!
:shrug:
As long as your ipod still works hey rob ;)
rob1963
21-05-2009, 11:21 PM
As long as your ipod still works hey rob ;)
You mean my FOUR ipods?
Get it right!
:D :D :D
Twinspin
22-05-2009, 01:40 AM
My backup gear is part of my console. I have as a backup. A Denon DN-D4000Twin CD Player which gets used during a disco as well and i also carry a UDG bag with all my cds in. So if my hd2500 fails i can work off cd.
As for the mixer for spare i have a Behringer Xenyx 1832fx with all the necessary cables to connect my dj playback devices like the hd2500 and the denon cd player.
As for speakers. I am now currently using 3 RCF tops. I had the speaker that got damaged repaired.
If one speaker fails the other one gets plugged in straight swap.
As for microphones i have 3x microphones.
1x Sennheiser EW135 G2 Radio Microphone (My main microphone)
1x Sennheiser E825s Wired Microphone.
3x Behringer XM1800s Microphones.
DJMaxG
22-05-2009, 05:57 AM
Actually, I have to admit I only take the speakers if I am further than 10 miles away and can't nip back if there's a problem with both actives.
10 Miles - Approx 30 minutes drive (average)
So, if you were 6 miles away, would you be prepared to just walk out the venues door, and drive back home for [15 X 2 = 30] half an hour, to get extra speakers?
Do you find it a necessity to speak at a disco?
Ha! :p
In a few years time, EVERY day will be a day off!
The only really important announcement is the first dance, and I used a dry voiceover from a CD of wedding jingles, voiceovers & music for this. Job done!
How Funny, I was thinking Jingles were a Great alternative, it's not too Professional though in some senses.
DJ Jules
22-05-2009, 06:55 AM
So if my hd2500 fails i can work off cd.
Hey, how do you find the HD2500? When I bought my Cortex I was warned off the Denon unit by the guy in the shop as he reckoned that a lot of them kept coming back with software issues? How often do you find you have to revert to CD for a few tracks while it reboots (a pretty regular scenario with the Cortex if you get a dodgy MP3 passed to you by the customer?) ;)
Julian
Twinspin
22-05-2009, 08:44 AM
Not that often tbh. Mines always been alright it crashes but very rarely. The denon cd player is used in that instance as well. So the cd player is a reliable good quality backup.
Solitaire Events Ltd
22-05-2009, 10:21 AM
10 Miles - Approx 30 minutes drive (average)
So, if you were 6 miles away, would you be prepared to just walk out the venues door, and drive back home for [15 X 2 = 30] half an hour, to get extra speakers?
If they both went, which is highly highly unlikely.
That wouldn't be necessary as most of the time, I either have someone with me who could go or we have a 'floater' who could pick gear up from one of two points and bring it to the venue within 20-30 minutes.
Shakermaker Promotions
22-05-2009, 10:27 AM
I have a spare amp in the van and a pair of active speakers so I am covered should anything go wrong....fingers crossed it doesn't.
Oh...before anyone says anything... The amp is case one of the others go and should anything else happen then I have the actives ready.
rob1963
22-05-2009, 10:47 AM
The only really important announcement is the first dance, and I used a dry voiceover from a CD of wedding jingles, voiceovers & music for this. Job done!
How Funny, I was thinking Jingles were a Great alternative, it's not too Professional though in some senses.
Not too professional? :confused:
What's the difference between the voiceover I used, which was simply a dry male voice saying something like "Ladies & gentleman, please welcome the bride & groom for the first dance" and me saying the same thing using the microphone?
If people weren't looking at me, they wouldn't even have known it wasn't me speaking!
Solitaire Events Ltd
22-05-2009, 10:49 AM
I can't believe what I read on here sometimes.
Whatever happened to entertaining people.
Playlists and jingles. Why do you even need to be there? :sj:
JAMdisco
22-05-2009, 10:59 AM
I can't believe what I read on here sometimes.
Whatever happened to entertaining people.
Playlists and jingles. Why do you even need to be there? :sj:
Jingles I completely agree with you - never used them and never would, I had a CD that had loads of jingles and voices but they just sounded so awful.
Playlists however, I believe are a great asset even if it's to ascertain what kind of music they like. I don't stick to them religiously as it's the crowd you are entertaining, not the individual, but I still think they're a good idea (as do most of my clients when booking me).
Shakermaker Promotions
22-05-2009, 11:01 AM
I've just read the last couple of pages of this thread and..well, what goes through some of your heads?
An introduction jingle to welcome the bride and groom?? I've heard it all now. I know these things exist but I would NEVER even think of using one.
You should be confident enough to do it yourself not stand there like a mute and let a jingle do it for you just by pressing a button....blimey, I'm not quite sure what else to say (for once!).
As I DO say though everytime....it's OUR job so either learn how to do it better and practice or give up. Ditch the jingles CD's or MP3's.
rob1963
22-05-2009, 11:26 AM
An introduction jingle to welcome the bride and groom?? I've heard it all now. I know these things exist but I would NEVER even think of using one.
Gary,
I'm not sure if you've read the whole thread properly.
Just to clarify, I once had to do a wedding when I'd completely lost my voice, so I literally wasn't able to say a word all night.
Obviously an introduction was needed for the bride & groom when it was time for the first dance (rather than just shoving it on), and as I was unable to speak, I used a dry voiceover from a wedding CD which was literally a male voice saying something like "Ladies & gentlemen, will you please welcome the bride & groom for the first dance"
There were no effects, just the announcement, so if people weren't looking at me, they wouldn't even have known it wasn't me making the announcement.
Rightly or wrongly, I thought this was a better option than just shoving on the first dance & nobody knowing what was happening.
I'd also like to point out that this is the only time I've not announced the first dance myself, and the only time I've used a voiceover or jingle at a disco for more than 20 years (apart from "That's all folks" at the end).
I hope that clarifies the situation.
:)
Shakermaker Promotions
22-05-2009, 12:42 PM
Fair do' Rob BUT BUT BUT...If I were in the same situation myself and had lost my voice then I would have got cover for the night. A DJ, in my view needs to use the microphone as it's all part of the package....isn't it?
A DJ with no voice is like a mechanic with no spanner I reckon. Only my opinion though mate.
rob1963
22-05-2009, 12:55 PM
If I were in the same situation myself and had lost my voice then I would have got cover for the night.
If I'd been able to, I would have done.
However, this wasn't possible because there was no time, as it only happened in the afternoon.
It was one of those situations where I just had to go out & get on with it, just like I've had to work with a temperature, tonsilitis & various other health problems in the past.
I've even managed to do a couple of quiz nights when I've lost my voice completely!
A DJ, in my view needs to use the microphone as it's all part of the package....isn't it?
In an ideal world, yes...but in this case it wasn't possible, so I just had to do my best without my voice.
A DJ with no voice is like a mechanic with no spanner I reckon. Only my opinion though mate.
We'll have to agree to differ on that, then.
I'd say a DJ with no MUSIC is like a mechanic with no spanner, as he cannot do the job he was paid to do.
A DJ with no voice can still play the music, which is the main thing a disco is booked for, so he can still do the job, albeit without any chat.
I'm living proof of that!
DeckstarDeluxe
22-05-2009, 04:52 PM
In all fairness Rob Im going to make sure I do have a similar male voiceover just in case that did happean to me.
In regards to the jingles and all that I think they are awful and tacky. I hated the sound of my own voice on the mic when I first started but you learn after a time and you get more confident on the mic. If you cant use a mic then arent you just an jukebox?
rob1963
22-05-2009, 04:59 PM
In all fairness Rob Im going to make sure I do have a similar male voiceover just in case that did happean to me.
At least someone thinks it was a good idea!
Respect, Deckstar!
You could even record it yourself using your own voice. Just an idea.
In regards to the jingles and all that I think they are awful and tacky.
Agreed, although 20 years ago I loved them & used them a lot, especially at my pub residency.
I spent hundreds on a package from a company in Dallas called Pams, who made all the original Radio London jingles in the 60's, and I also had some from the deep voice legend Bill Mitchell, who is sadly no longer with us.
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