Michael Jackson dies

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

On Sky news and BBC news.

He was rushed into hospital after suffering a cardiac arrest and they didn't revive him.

Still awaiting proper confirmation though, so still not sure.

Would be a great great loss if it's true.

[Shaun]

I've been watching the news unfolding on Sky News. It certainly looks as though he's died.

[Sapphire Disco]

Was just announced on BBC Radio

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

I can't believe it...

[Penfold42]

I'm flicking around the channels now.....don't look good...


Would be a great great loss if it's true.

..a great loss.

[DJmissbehaving]

I cant believe it.....my friend just told me there. I am still not sure if its true or not. I hope its not though.....very unexpected!!!!!!!!!

[visualdjmax]

Just watching it now> I'm gobsmacked!

[ppentertainments]

Unbelievable, Agree with Penmare - A great loss.

[Jiggles]

I don't know what to say! :eek:

[DeckstarDeluxe]

its true.........

He was a legend.

Theres not many tracks that I pretty much play at every gig but Michael Jackson's are number one.

RIP

[Adam_F]

Shocking, an a sad loss

[Dynamic Entertainment]

Im shocked.

[Rowleys]

Rip

[JDB Entertainment]

I play a lot of Michael Jacksons songs as most others on here do! RIP - A very big loss!

[visualdjmax]

Isn't it still unconfirmed though?

[Dynamic Entertainment]

Not according to Sky. the missus just checked as she didnt believe me.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Isn't it still unconfirmed though?

Correct.

[Penfold42]

Isn't it still unconfirmed though?

It is still unconfirmed ....but not looking good. :(

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Not according to Sky. the missus just checked as she didnt believe me.

Then she didn't listen - it is still officially unconfirmed. Only TMZ have 'confirmed' it.

[visualdjmax]

Apparently in a coma?????

[DeckstarDeluxe]

now another source LA times say hes in a coma?

Im sure you guys are glued to sky news like me so you'll already know this

[Dynamic Entertainment]

I stand corrected. Didnt look too long but the clip i heard sounded fairly final. Thats the news for you though, they did mention TZM...

[visualdjmax]

now another source LA times say hes in a coma?

Im sure you guys are glued to sky news like me so you'll already know this

Yep!

[BeerFunk]

I am praying... it would be a tragic, tragic loss. Definitely unconfirmed as yet, but a cardiac arrest usually results in death if not treated immediately :(

[visualdjmax]

LA Times just confirmed -

[DJmissbehaving]

LA Times just confirmed -

Yea i just heard that too.....hes only 50 aswell. Cant believe it!!!!!!

[visualdjmax]

How many people outside that hospital!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh No not Uri Keller!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Penfold42]

Who's Keller? :confused:

Sad.

[BeerFunk]

No medical professional has confirmed it yet, but it really isn't looking good at all. I actually almost feel like I could cry - he has been such a huge influence on me

[visualdjmax]

Who's Keller? :confused:

Sad.

The weird bloke that bends spoons who had Michael Jackson as his best man. Now that was weird! He has just been on the phone on SKY news

[DJmissbehaving]

The weird bloke that bends spoons who had Michael Jackson as his best man. Now that was weird! He has just been on the phone on SKY news

Is it no uri geller??

[Penfold42]

Is it no uri geller??

:clap: :thumbsup:

[ScottThompson]

He arrived at hospital in a deep coma, and has now been confirmed dead.

[DeckstarDeluxe]

Im making an educated guess he spent alot of his recent years wreslting with some emotional and mental issues. Hes got alot of money troubles. As hard as it may be to say I hope hes better off now hes resting in peace.

[ScottThompson]

Im making an educated guess he spent alot of his recent years wreslting with some emotional and mental issues. Hes got alot of money troubles. As hard as it may be to say I hope hes better off now hes resting in peace.

Thats right, he'll be in a better place.

[BeerFunk]

He arrived at hospital in a deep coma, and has now been confirmed dead.


Im making an educated guess he spent alot of his recent years wreslting with some emotional and mental issues. Hes got alot of money troubles. As hard as it may be to say I hope hes better off now hes resting in peace.Which doctor pronounced him dead? In my opinion, it's disrespectful to pronounce someone as dead, based on a rumour.

[ScottThompson]

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Sky-Live-TV - have a watch.

[[email protected]]

LA Times and AP have confirmed it now, i'm flicking between fox news and cnn on Sky.... Bit shocked.......

[BeerFunk]

Now it has been confirmed. RIP - a true icon.

[Jiggles]

Sad Sad Day!:( RIP!

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Now it has been confirmed. RIP - a true icon.

Where Callum?

[Penfold42]

Now it has been confirmed. RIP - a true icon.

Where?

[Twinspin]

BBC News

[Penfold42]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8119951.stm

But it still says ill....:confused:

[BeerFunk]

When the BBC reports it, I take it as gospel

[[email protected]]

Channel 509 on sky, Fox News confirmed it now....

They are reporting that someone is due to come out and speak shortly.

[Twinspin]

You need to switch your television on. BBC News

its on sky and freeview

[DeckstarDeluxe]

im sticking with sky news

wish they wouldnt keep bringing the spoon bender on

[BeerFunk]

At least now he is safe from all the people who hated him for no reason.

[spin mobile disco]

I cant belive it as well. He is just one of those icons you think will always be there. I hope he's at rest now.

RIP

[gaza]

What a shock

I went to see him at Wembley many moons ago.
He was then the best bar none entertainer

Sad loss

[visualdjmax]

YouTube - Michael Jackson-Billie Jean-30th Anniversary Special

[rob1963]

Someone came up to me at my quiz & told me, saying she'd seen it on the TV in the pub. To be honest, I didn't believe her at first.

Then someone else came up, also told me Michael Jackson had died and said I should mention it & announce a 1 minute silence.

I chose not to, as the quiz is meant to be an enjoyable & light hearted affair, and an announcement would have soon put an end to that.

Having come home & read this thread, I'm so pleased I kept quiet, as it appears that when I was given the news (Just over an hour ago), nothing had been confirmed. It only seems to have been confirmed in the last 15 minutes or so.

RIP Michael Jackson.

A sad loss.

[Penfold42]

What a showman!

[visualdjmax]

What a showman!

Like a traveller?

[[email protected]]

Blimey, they don't waste anytime on wikipedia....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jackson

[DeckstarDeluxe]

quicker than.........

http://www.michaeljackson.com/

[rob1963]

Blimey, they don't waste anytime on wikipedia....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jackson

Indeed.

It was the same with the death of Farrah Fawcett...Wikipedia had already been updated before the story was reported on the BBC evening news.

[Mark Wild]

I better start looking for a new baby sitter now huh !

[Jiggles]

What away to start my summer holidays! :(

[[email protected]]

quicker than.........

http://www.michaeljackson.com/

Yes, but he's just passed away, he won't be updating his website anytime soon...

:sofa:

[DeckstarDeluxe]

Yes, but he's just passed away, he won't be updating his website anytime soon...

:sofa:


its offline now

[Twinspin]

I looked at the website as well a few minutes ago and its offline

[DeckstarDeluxe]

Im now more shocked at peoples reactions to this now than him dying. Alot of jokes in poor taste and so soon as he has died :(

[bedrock]

we as dj must not let michael jacksons music die out at avry funtion or party we do we must play 1 jackson song and say god he was a good singer and pass his music on to younger djs the future and they must keep his songs playing for ever more

rip

michael jackson

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Im now more shocked at peoples reactions to this now than him dying. Alot of jokes in poor taste and so soon as he has died :(

And a lot of people posting things on Facebook too. Those people have gone right down in my estimation.

[DeckstarDeluxe]

interesting Uri Geller is on sky news still telling all. Makes me more and more sad the more I hear about him. Was a lonely guy, had lots of issues with his own father.

[discomobiledj]

lets hope the press give the family the space and time to grieve for him.

Is a sad loss of a true legend.

RIP

[Twinspin]

And a lot of people posting things on Facebook too. Those people have gone right down in my estimation.

Oh dear. Just like the F***book website itself. A Joke! :(

If anything tragic hapens nowadays there is also someone sick enough to make a joke out of it and its probably passed through social networking sites and then people sending the same jokes in their text messages to friends and family. Before long the jokes will be ancient and people will be making jokes about someone else.

Its always the same old rubbish.

[Danno13]

Someone came up to me at my quiz & told me, saying she'd seen it on the TV in the pub. To be honest, I didn't believe her at first.

Then someone else came up, also told me Michael Jackson had died and said I should mention it & announce a 1 minute silence.

I chose not to, as the quiz is meant to be an enjoyable & light hearted affair, and an announcement would have soon put an end to that.

Having come home & read this thread, I'm so pleased I kept quiet, as it appears that when I was given the news (Just over an hour ago), nothing had been confirmed. It only seems to have been confirmed in the last 15 minutes or so.

RIP Michael Jackson.

A sad loss.

Same happened to me, I was doing a prom and a few guys wanted to announce it, I didn't think it would be appropriate and I didn't know if they were telling the truth or not.

I did bring up BBC news on my phone, but it was still saying it was unconfirmed, and I only found out for definate when someone told me after I'd finished.

It's a great loss, and such a shock - 50 is far too young! RIP

[andyw]

i heard it late last night and didd not want to believe it,sadly though waking up this mourning it's true, it's unbelievable and it reminds me of the night lady di passed away.
micheal was a legend and certainly the greatest singer/dancer of all time,
rip mj

[Corabar Steve]

we as dj must not let michael jacksons music die out at avry funtion or party we do we must play 1 jackson song and say god he was a good singer and pass his music on to younger djs the future and they must keep his songs playing for ever more
Must we??? & was he really that good?

I can only think of 6 or 7 tracks that I'd bother playing at a function & 3 of them are with his brothers.


Don't get me wrong, there was a talent there, but he's done bugger all worthwhile since Bad. How long ago was that?

I can't believe how over the top people are going with this, sure he had his moments, but he sure as hell wasn't in the same league talent wise as Presley, Bolan, Morrison, or Hendrix (& many other true legends now no longer with us ((those were just the first 4 that came to mind))

I won't be going out of my way to play any Jacko tonight, unless requested.

[wensleydale]

reminds me of the night lady di passed away.
hmmm.
i think that says it all.

[djpapastu]

Got a text last night which woke me up and has to read it twice, I put tv on and couldn't believe it.

It really is like lady Diana all over again.

Its shocked me a lot more than I thought it would.

RIP Michael.

[OllieJames]

Well, - That was a shock. Just find it strange that i played 'Smooth Criminal' on my drums for our leavers assembly on Wednesday. :(

[mike8863]

Im making an educated guess he spent alot of his recent years wreslting with some emotional and mental issues. Hes got alot of money troubles. As hard as it may be to say I hope hes better off now hes resting in peace.

Very very sad, I'm quite upset by it all, that poor guys final years were so un deserved and he must have felt so saddened by what fame has done to him.
Lets hope the next chapter treats him well. God Bless him.

[UltraBeat Entertainment]

This news is so sad. He's always been in the background while growing up. He's on of these figures I've always thought of as being immortal.

He may have had a strange up bringing and personal live but know one can say he's was any less than than a genius and a legend.

Let the King Of Pop live of through his music.

R.I.P

P.s there are already conspiracy theories about this being a publicity stunt:confused:

[Ryu]

Unbelievable new...Propper sledgehammer way of waking up.

Whether you like him or not, as Mobile DJs, Michael Jackson along with Quincy Jones has had a significant impact on the songs you play every single gig.

RIP Michael Jackson

[Jonny Boy]

Whether you like him or not, as Mobile DJs, Michael Jackson along with Quincy Jones has had a significant impact on the songs you play every single gig.



Couldn't agree more - although see the bit I've highlighted. MJ was a fab artist, yes, but IMO it was the work Quincy Jones did - arrangements and production - which propelled MJ into mega-superstardom. All the killer tracks are QJ productions, IMO.

Just like Sinatra's career had floundered until he started working with Nelson Riddle.... or Madonna had lost her way until she worked with William Orbit. The success of pop music is the synergy or all these artists together.

The tragedy is the way MJ's personal life had declined as well as his career.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

I can't believe how over the top people are going with this

I am surprised you don't understand why.

[Mark Wild]

I can't believe how over the top people are going with this


:agree: I feel alot more emotional when I hear we've lost yet another soldier in Afghanistan. Michael Jackson was a great entertainer full stop.

[Ryu]

As I said in my earlier posts...as Mobile DJs you've probably earnt money playing his songs or songs inspired by him, more than any other artist.

So from a DJs point of view, I can completely see why there are posters, me included, who are saddened by this news.

[DJWilson]

:agree: I feel alot more emotional when I hear we've lost yet another soldier in Afghanistan. Michael Jackson was a great entertainer full stop.


2nd That.

[JTRS]

I'm sorry but I don't get this.

Michael Jackson made some great dance tunes and like most DJ's I use them, but recently he hasn't produced anything, so his death doesn't affect me, I'll still play the tracks I would have played.

It would have been a bit different if he was a 'current' artist in the middle of his career, that I could have understood

JTRS

[1st Choice Karaoke]

R.i.p. Michael Jackson, Legend.

[rob1963]

he sure as hell wasn't in the same league talent wise as Presley, Bolan, Morrison, or Hendrix (& many other true legends now no longer with us ((those were just the first 4 that came to mind))


But Presley, Bolan, Morrison or Hendrix didn't have the best selling album of all time.

Also, how quickly did more than a million tickets sell out for his O2 gigs? Not bad, considering his first hits were almost 40 years ago.

Enough said.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

For people who don't get it, I feel sad for.

Did you ever think about the fact that he has 3 children?

[Jiggles]

The internet suffered a number of slowdowns as people the world over rushed to verify accounts of Michael Jackson's death.
Search giant Google confirmed to the BBC that when the news first broke it feared it was under attack.

Millions of people who Googled the star's name were greeted with an error page rather than a list of results.


The BBC news website reported that traffic to the site at 0400 BST was 48% higher than average.

Google was not the only company overwhelmed by the public's clamour for information.
The microblogging service Twitter crashed with the sheer volume of people using the service.

Nuff said!

[Penfold42]

Did you ever think about the fact that he has 3 children?

:o :(

[DazzyD]

He was a great entertainer and millions will mourn his passing.

We wasn't just this though. He was a father (if you can excuse the "dangling kids out of the window" episode), an eccentric (who wouldn't be under the pressure of that fame?). But what stands out for me was that he was a very shrewd businessman. After all, he bought the entire Beatles back catalogue which was a brilliant business deal. And he orchestrated a lot of his own publicity (such as the "Jacko In An Air-Bubble" thing). He may have seemed wacky at the time but it kept him in the public eye and, as the saying goes, all publicity is good publicity.

He was obviously a troubled man so may he now rest in peace.

[Babybob]

The man was a musical legend and he will be missed by many but let's not forget he had a dark side which may or may not have been substantiated.

I truly feel for his children and I hope they are protected from the media bandwagon that will no doubt be maniacal.

R.I.P Jacko.

[rob1963]

Within 18 hours this has become one of the 5 most replied to threads in the "MDD Chat" forum this year.

I think that says it all.

[BeerFunk]

I still can't quite believe that he's actually died, it just hasn't sunk in.

As an entertainer, he was incomparable - there has never been a solo artist in the same league.

[visualdjmax]

And already there are fat too many jokes. I think that I have had them all. I am not brave enough to put them up on this thread though!!!

[Ryu]

The british seem good at jumping on the sick joke bandwagon super fast... And to be fair one or two of the least offensive ones made me laugh...like "Michael Jackson died of a congenital heart defect...he carried the rare Billie Gene" :o :)

I guess we tend to deal with bad news either with humour or with resentment at someone hogging Sky News for a day or two...:(

[DeckstarDeluxe]

The british seem good at jumping on the sick joke bandwagon super fast... And to be fair one or two of the least offensive ones made me laugh...like "Michael Jackson died of a congenital heart defect...he carried the rare Billie Gene" :o :)

I guess we tend to deal with bad news either with humour or with resentment at someone hogging Sky News for a day or two...:(

All the jokes Ive been sent have been in very poor taste. I even noticed people posting jokes on facebook even before it was confirmed.

People who think we are going ott about michael jackson dying and saying its been years since he released anything good, yet look at how many of his tracks have stood the test of time, ask how many of todays active artists have grown up and been inspired by his music. I for one will be playing a good few number of his tracks tonight.

You also have to remember that alot of the icons that died have died before many of us were born or could remember. I cant compared it to the others but the only other time I felt so sad about a persons death was oddly not Princess Di (though still sad) but a football player called Marc Viven Foe who suffered a heart attack on the pitch.

[Shaun]

Let's try keep the MJ jokes off the forum, please. I've already read a few horrendous ones on other forums. All it does is lower the tone. Thanks.

[Ryu]

Let's try keep the MJ jokes off the forum, please. I've already read a few horrendous ones on other forums. All it does is lower the tone. Thanks.

Apologies. :)

[Ryu]

All the jokes Ive been sent have been in very poor taste. I even noticed people posting jokes on facebook even before it was confirmed.

People who think we are going ott about michael jackson dying and saying its been years since he released anything good, yet look at how many of his tracks have stood the test of time, ask how many of todays active artists have grown up and been inspired by his music. I for one will be playing a good few number of his tracks tonight.

You also have to remember that alot of the icons that died have died before many of us were born or could remember. I cant compared it to the others but the only other time I felt so sad about a persons death was oddly not Princess Di (though still sad) but a football player called Marc Viven Foe who suffered a heart attack on the pitch.

I know what you mean. And yep, I too will be making sure a few MJ/Jackson 5 and Jacksons classics feature tonight.

[wensleydale]

mr jackson certainly has divided opinion

there's not many people who attract such a set of "hardcore" fans.

each to their own.

[Excalibur]

I pretty much agree with most of Steve's post#72, and all of Jonny Boy #79.
I reckon Mike#76, it wasn't fame that treated him badly, I fairly much think it
was a self-inflicted wound.

Darren#87, a very valid and perhaps overlooked point. Let's hope they are allowed to have as normal an upbringing as possible under the circumstances.

[BeerFunk]

Let's not forget that, as a child he was 'forced' into stardom, while the other kids his age were out playing and experiencing a normal life. He didn't have a childhood, and that has been something he has been looking for throughout his entire adult life. I believe that explains his baffling lifestyle - building theme parks, buying ludricously expensive (and useless) items just because he liked them - exactly what a child would do if not guided and restricted by a guardian.

He was thrust into an adult world without all of the experiences and lessons we all had as part of growing up - considering that, it's not hard to see why he got the weird/wacko tag.

It is so tragic, and that's why it has saddened me so much - as he was my idol when I was a kid.

[sted]

he made a huge impact on the music scene and will do for decades to come.

[DeckstarDeluxe]

Let's not forget that, as a child he was 'forced' into stardom, while the other kids his age were out playing and experiencing a normal life. He didn't have a childhood, and that has been something he has been looking for throughout his entire adult life. I believe that explains his baffling lifestyle - building theme parks, buying ludricously expensive (and useless) items just because he liked them - exactly what a child would do if not guided and restricted by a guardian.

He was thrust into an adult world without all of the experiences and lessons we all had as part of growing up - considering that, it's not hard to see why he got the weird/wacko tag.

It is so tragic, and that's why it has saddened me so much - as he was my idol when I was a kid.

Very good point. Just how much of a choice did a kid like him have.

Still gutted about the whole thing even 24 hours afterwards. RIP

[SC Events]

The web mods have put up a message board on www.michaeljackson.com.

I've just been having a quick look and there are thousands. I refreshed the page and there are hundreds being posted every minute.

[Corabar Steve]

For people who don't get it, I feel sad for.

Did you ever think about the fact that he has 3 children?
What have they got to do with it? In his own warped quirky way he has guaranteed their anonymity & it's not as if they'll ever be in the situation of wanting for anything unlike many other orphans of not famous parents.

People just seem to go over the top these days about people they don't even know, look at Jade bloody Goody for an example. I can understand grief for family, friends & even work colleagues, but for a total stranger that you haven't even met???? It's bloody ridiculous!

The bulk of his fame / hits have relied on either his brothers &/or Quincy Jones. How many of his own hits did he write?? I know Elvis didn't write his own stuff (before anyone jumps on my previous comment) but he was in another league completely. The man was born with more charisma than anyone before or since. Jackson was mediocre to good at best & would've been nothing without the undue pressure from his father & the talent & cooperation of his brothers & Jones.

I ended up playing Dirty Diana & ABC, as well as the Bates - Billie Jean, Fall Out Boy - Beat it, Alien Ant Farm - Smooth Criminal, David Ruffin - I want you back & Bobby Day - Rockin' Robin.

[JTRS]

People just seem to go over the top these days about people they don't even know, look at Jade bloody Goody for an example. I can understand grief for family, friends & even work colleagues, but for a total stranger that you haven't even met???? It's bloody ridiculous!



Well said

JTRS

[rob1963]

How many of his own hits did he write?? I know Elvis didn't write his own stuff (before anyone jumps on my previous comment) but he was in another league completely.

Elvis was indeed in a completely differrent league to Michael Jackson, as he did NOT manage to have the best selling album of all time!

They were both great singers, but I know who was the better dancer!

Also, how old was Elvis when he began his career?

[BeerFunk]

People just seem to go over the top these days about people they don't even know, look at Jade bloody Goody for an example. I can understand grief for family, friends & even work colleagues, but for a total stranger that you haven't even met???? It's bloody ridiculous!He's not a stranger to me, I know I've never met him but I've still seen countless interviews and videos - and not to mention that I've listened to his music far more than any other artist.


The bulk of his fame / hits have relied on either his brothers &/or Quincy Jones. How many of his own hits did he write??As for Quincy Jones - there's no doubt that Michael wouldn't have achieved what he did without him, but he still would have been successful without him. Rod Temperton did a lot of writing for Michael too, amongst others. NeYo was writing tracks for his next album too.

How do you know exactly how much input Michael had in the songwriting and recording process anyway? You don't - you've just read from Wikipedia or somewhere. He was involved, certainly with the lyrics, but you can't say exactly how much.



I know Elvis didn't write his own stuff (before anyone jumps on my previous comment) but he was in another league completely. The man was born with more charisma than anyone before or since.I think you're overstating that a tad - there's no doubt Elvis was a unique talent, but wouldn't you say that his performances are fairly easily imitated by tribute acts?? No-one can do what Michael Jackson did on stage - no-one.


Jackson was mediocre to good at best & would've been nothing without the undue pressure from his father & the talent & cooperation of his brothers & Jones.That is a ridiculous statement.

[Mark Wild]

Box of man size tissues and his complete back catalogue, get over it already.

[BeerFunk]

Box of man size tissues and his complete back catalogue, get over it already.What's the point in that post? You do know that posting on a thread is optional, don't you?

[Corabar Steve]

Elvis was indeed in a completely differrent league to Michael Jackson, as he did NOT manage to have the best selling album of all time!I know who's sold more albums / singles & it isn't MJ


They were both great singers, but I know who was the better dancer!Irrelevant


Also, how old was Elvis when he began his career? Also irrelevant


Box of man size tissues and his complete back catalogue, get over it already.
http://planetsmilies.net/sign-smiley-438.gif (http://planetsmilies.net):agree:

[Mark Wild]

What's the point in that post?


get over it already.


You do know that posting on a thread is optional, don't you?

Yes ;)

[rob1963]

They were both great singers, but I know who was the better dancer!


Irrelevant


Also, how old was Elvis when he began his career?


Also irrelevant

Irrelevant to who? You?

Of course these points are not irrelevant when comparing the two artists.

:bang:

[Shaun]

I have no emotion either way with the news of MJ's death. I feel sorry for his family and children as they will be going through a really horrible time right now, but personally the news hasn't put me up nor down.

I can fully appreciate why the death of him has had such an impact on so many people. To millions he'd provided the soundtrack to their childhood, so obviously the death will sadden and shock many.

[wensleydale]

No-one can do what Michael Jackson did on stage - no-one.



This guy does a pretty good job-

http://www.kingofpop.co.uk/

I'm with Steve on this- I think the world has gone a little bit over the top.
As someone said earlier it's like when Diana died, only I dont mean that in a good way.

All we need now is Candle in the wind to be re-released and that will prove that the world has really gone mad.

[DeckstarDeluxe]

Sorry Steve but do you live with your head under the stand? Just because you dont like michael jackson you think its wrong for people to be shocked and upset at someone who was in a league of their entertainment wise. He hasnt released anything for years yet look at how many tickets he sold out at his gigs at the O2. His dances were amazing and still copied by many street dancing teams to this dance. How the hell can you compare him to Jade Goody!

[wensleydale]

Sorry Steve but do you live with your head under the stand? Just because you dont like michael jackson you think its wrong for people to be shocked and upset at someone who was in a league of their entertainment wise. He hasnt released anything for years yet look at how many tickets he sold out at his gigs at the O2. His dances were amazing and still copied by many street dancing teams to this dance. How the hell can you compare him to Jade Goody!

i think steve was just saying that for every person who was a big fan of the man, theres someone else who didnt particularly like him and found him a little strange.
i liked his music when he was good but i found the person creepy beyond belief.

[DeckstarDeluxe]

i think steve was just saying that for every person who was a big fan of the man, theres someone else who didnt particularly like him and found him a little strange.
i liked his music when he was good but i found the person creepy beyond belief.


I doubt very much you will find anyone saying that he was a normal person. I for one dont but he didnt have a normal life particularly childhood which may or may not explain his behaviour in adulthood. That I cant comment on really because I didnt know the guy but he'll be remembered for the music and rightly so.

[Ryu]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_music_artists= Why so many people are upset/disappointed/gutted/affected/bothered by this news. The reaction to Jade Goodys death was a media - led Max Clifford ruled lesson in the art of making an otherwise, sadly, fairly common story of a woman who died of cancer and happened to have been on telly into a 2 month, headline grabbing crass "production"

In the case of Michael Jackson, its the passing of a man who sold more records that The Rolling Stones, Abba, Led Zeppelin, Madonna, Pink Floyd, Elton John and Queen.

I'd say the public reaction has been perfectly justifiable.

[andyw]

i said it was like when diana died,and what i meant, is the sudden shock of waking upto the news and the press coverage, i agree and disagree with most post's if that makes sense, everyone should be allowed to grieve or not to grieve his passing in their own way without being ridiculed or shot down, whether you like his music or not he was a big influence on a lot of people's lives with his music, i personally remember the thriller album, at that time my wife and i was going out and ha a week travelling around cornwall with her sister and her boyfriend, when ever i hear that album those memories come flooding back. he had a lot of contraversial issues in his private life personally i think he as misunderstood, but everyine is entitled to a different opinion.
finally no matter how much money he has left his kids they will never have there real dad around which is something money cannot buy

[A1DL]

finally no matter how much money he has left his kids they will never have there real dad around which is something monkey cannot buy

absolutely ;)

[PropellerHeadCase]

How do you know exactly how much input Michael had in the songwriting and recording process anyway?

I know for a fact that Quincy Jones didn't initially like the intro to Billie Jean, Michael insited upon it. Michael recorded a lot of full demos, lyrics AND instrumentation before Quincy ever laid ears on it.

[rob1963]

Sorry Steve but do you live with your head under the stand? Just because you dont like michael jackson you think its wrong for people to be shocked and upset at someone who was in a league of their entertainment wise. He hasnt released anything for years yet look at how many tickets he sold out at his gigs at the O2. His dances were amazing and still copied by many street dancing teams to this dance. How the hell can you compare him to Jade Goody!

Well said.

As for Steve mentioning Michael Jackson & Jade Goody in the same sentence, that's completely laughable.

Michael Jackson had loads of talent, Goody had none whatsoever.

:bang:

[Corabar Steve]

Irrelevant to who? You?

Of course these points are not irrelevant when comparing the two artists.

:bang:
Keep banging your head Rob, it might knock some sense into it. Of course how old they were when they started performing is irrelevant. FYI Presley was very young when he first performed publicly, OK so he may not have been paid for it, but he was still performing as a child. & as for who was the better dancer??? Get real! Can you honestly call that prancing & shuffling dancing?

Sorry Steve but do you live with your head under the stand? Just because you dont like michael jackson you think its wrong for people to be shocked and upset at someone who was in a league of their entertainment wise. He hasnt released anything for years yet look at how many tickets he sold out at his gigs at the O2. His dances were amazing and still copied by many street dancing teams to this dance. How the hell can you compare him to Jade Goody!Easy they are both idolised by the same sort of social inadequates who get fanatical about everything they like. The really sad thing is, some of these people wouldn't get as upset if a family member died.


Well said.

As for Steve mentioning Michael Jackson & Jade Goody in the same sentence, that's completely laughable.

Michael Jackson had loads of talent, Goody had none whatsoever.

:bang:
See above.

I find the whole reaction thing laughable & I have borderline pity for those that have gotten so upset about it. Not for their loss (because it isn't their loss, it's his family & friends loss, not complete strangers that he wouldn't have known from Adam) but for their sad pathetic lives, that they have to idolise people like MJ, Jade or Di.

For the record, nowhere did I say that I didn't like his music. Billie Jean is probably one of the greatest pop singles of all time & I've always had a soft spot for I want you back & Rockin' Robin. Certainly some of my gigs would've been poorer if it weren't for Blame it on the boogie & Don't stop til you get enough. The trouble is that for every one of them (3 of which were recorded with his brothers) there's an Earthsong, One day in your life or a Ben. Hardly consistent when you think of it.

Anyway, he's not dead. I saw him on the telly Friday night, on stage playing guitar with Lady GaGa at Glasto http://www.bbc.co.uk/glastonbury/2009/artists/ladygaga/ (watch the vid, you'll see him).


I'd be more upset if somebody like Suggs, Lemmy, Angry Anderson, Mick Jagger, Vincent Furnier or Brian Setzer died, but I wouldn't lose sleep over it, as I didn't know any of them personally (even though I've met 4 of them).

At the end of the day, Pop/Rock Stars / Musicians are just people, not some sort of deity,to be worshiped. If more people realised this we wouldn't be having this discussion.

[rob1963]

Jackson was mediocre to good at best

I guess we'll agree to differ then, because describing the most successful singer for 30 years (and one of the most successfull singers of all time) like that is laughable.

[Corabar Steve]

Popularity does not necessarily equal quality (Crazy Frog anyone? There was obviously a demand (4 weeks at number 1) but I doubt many would say it was good)

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

K
At the end of the day, Pop/Rock Stars / Musicians are just people, not some sort of deity,to be worshiped. If more people realised this we wouldn't be having this discussion.

So it's OK for you to start a thread about some obscure person that died, that generally I've never heard of and say it a sad loss etc etc though?

You do make me laugh sometimes.

[rob1963]

So it's OK for you to start a thread about some obscure person that died, that generally I've never heard of and say it a sad loss etc etc though?

You do make me laugh sometimes.

:Laugh:

Excellent point, Darren.

[Excalibur]

Sorry Rob and Darren, but my thoughts align with Steve's in many ways. The lad was undoubtedly talented, possibly even genius, but sometimes genius and lunacy are two sides of the same coin.

The word "Hysteria" springs to mind, much as it did with Princess Di. Sorry, but that's the way I see it.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Sorry Rob and Darren, but my thoughts align with Steve's in many ways. The lad was undoubtedly talented, possibly even genius, but sometimes genius and lunacy are two sides of the same coin.

The word "Hysteria" springs to mind, much as it did with Princess Di. Sorry, but that's the way I see it.

What are you apologising to me for?

[Tom]

Been watching this on TV. Such a shame to see an icon go like this.

RIP MJ

[Excalibur]

What are you apologising to me for?

Having the affrontery to hold a diametrically opposed point of view from that which you affirm. :o :o :o Politeness costs nothing. ;) :D :D

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Having the affrontery to hold a diametrically opposed point of view from that which you affirm. :o :o :o Politeness costs nothing. ;) :D :D

And what exactly is my opinion then?

What are you disagreeing with? :confused:

[Excalibur]

And what exactly is my opinion then?

What are you disagreeing with? :confused:

Post #128. I'm not sure we are using the same criteria to judge the relative merits of certain performers value to the music industry. Steve made you laugh( in and not ha ha I assume). I tended to agree with Steve, thus I suspect I don't agree with you.

Next time, I won't be polite, and tactful in my views, I'll just call a spade a manually opoerated soil inverting implement. ;) :D :D :D

[rob1963]

Post #128. I'm not sure we are using the same criteria to judge the relative merits of certain performers value to the music industry. Steve made you laugh( in and not ha ha I assume). I tended to agree with Steve, thus I suspect I don't agree with you.

Next time, I won't be polite, and tactful in my views, I'll just call a spade a manually opoerated soil inverting implement. ;) :D :D :D

The point that Darren (I think) and myself were making was that Steve described Michael Jackson as "mediocre at best", and yet on more than one occasion he's described bands & artists that half of us haven't even heard of as legendary, which doesn't make sense.

I have no problem with someone describing the most successful singer of the last 30 years as legendary, but as for a band or artist that half of us haven't even heard of...come on!

The Sonics, anyone?

:shrug:

[Dynamic Entertainment]

Well said.

As for Steve mentioning Michael Jackson & Jade Goody in the same sentence, that's completely laughable.

Michael Jackson had loads of talent, Goody had none whatsoever.

:bang:


Sorry Steve but do you live with your head under the stand? Just because you dont like michael jackson you think its wrong for people to be shocked and upset at someone who was in a league of their entertainment wise. He hasnt released anything for years yet look at how many tickets he sold out at his gigs at the O2. His dances were amazing and still copied by many street dancing teams to this dance. How the hell can you compare him to Jade Goody!


Easy they are both idolised by the same sort of social inadequates who get fanatical about everything they like. The really sad thing is, some of these people wouldn't get as upset if a family member died.

God, weve crossed threads here :)

Thanks Steve, that was my point exactly, Rob & Neil. Goodys got her idols, Jacksons got his. Its all social hysteria

If Tiesto keeled over tomorrow there would be thousand and thousand of devistated people who reckon that dance music has lost its biggest star of the last 10 years, and others who wouldnt be bothered.

Neil, I never said that i didnt like Michael Jackson (i dont mind most of his stuff) BUT im not going to be devistated and worried that musics lost its biggest influence (it may have), but theres more important things going on in the world. If i met the man personally then i may have a different opinion, but i dodnt know him, he didnt know me so I dont see what all the fuss is about.

[rob1963]

im not going to be devistated and worried

For the record, I didn't say I was devastated or worried.

However, I WAS shocked & saddened to hear that the most successful singer in the last 30 years had died so suddenly & at such a young age.

[Dynamic Entertainment]

For the record, I didn't say I was devastated or worried.

However, I WAS shocked & saddened to hear that the most successful singer in the last 30 years had died so suddenly & at such a young age.

I agree with you then Rob ;) - Its a shame when anyone dies young regardles off their status. But there are people (not necessarily on this forum) that are treating it as the end of music as we know it (last quote i heard was "The music really has died".... theres alos countles stories of people crying over it which is just OTT imo. :)

[rob1963]

But there are people (not necessarily on this forum) that are treating it as the end of music as we know it (last quote i heard was "The music really has died".... theres alos countles stories of people crying over it which is just OTT imo. :)

I also think that some people go over the top, like the guy who came up to me at my quiz on Thursday asking me to announce a 1 minute silence.

:shrug:

[BeerFunk]

I just find it sad that there are people actively criticizing Michael Jackson, his music, and his fans in the wake of his death. What makes it worse is that they aren't logical, reasoned criticisms - they are personal, and quite frankly, nasty attacks. I can't really understand why, either :confused:

I do agree that the 'hysteria' is over the top from some quarters, but the dignified thing to do is to ignore it, and let it pass - look the other way.

Personally, I am saddened by his death - I had a ticket for one of the January dates and was really looking forward to it, more than I have for any other event in my life. Maybe it's hard to understand for someone who isn't a fan, but I grew up with his music - he was my idol. Some of my early memories were standing up on the stage at a school disco with all my friends (we were all the same), dancing to his songs, trying to copy his dance moves, and then hassling the DJ to play more of his songs.

So I'm sorry if it offends anyone, but as Michael and his music have had such a huge influence on me from an early age, it does feel almost like a personal loss.

[DeckstarDeluxe]

God, weve crossed threads here :)

Thanks Steve, that was my point exactly, Rob & Neil. Goodys got her idols, Jacksons got his. Its all social hysteria

If Tiesto keeled over tomorrow there would be thousand and thousand of devistated people who reckon that dance music has lost its biggest star of the last 10 years, and others who wouldnt be bothered.

Neil, I never said that i didnt like Michael Jackson (i dont mind most of his stuff) BUT im not going to be devistated and worried that musics lost its biggest influence (it may have), but theres more important things going on in the world. If i met the man personally then i may have a different opinion, but i dodnt know him, he didnt know me so I dont see what all the fuss is about.


I was replying to Crobar steve in that statement.

Im not saying everyone has to have liked him but to be surprised at how upset people have got is abit strange. I cant think of a currently living music or entertainment superstar that if they died tomorrow would overshadow MJ's.

[Excalibur]

I also think that some people go over the top, like the guy who came up to me at my quiz on Thursday asking me to announce a 1 minute silence.

:shrug:

Disgraceful! :eek: :eek: Now if he'd asked you to be quiet for the duration of the quiz, that I could have understood. I mean the questions are printed out, so why do they need you to witter on anyway? :p :p ;) ;) :D :D

[rob1963]

the questions are printed out, so why do they need you to witter on anyway? :p :p ;) ;) :D :D

Just to clarify, round one is a picture round, so they HAVE to be printed out.

Round 2 is general knowledge where I call out the questions.

Round 3 is the music round where I play the music clips.

Round 4 is another general knowledge round where I call out the questions.

As for the other reasons why they need to hear me witter on, partly to hear the answers & scores, partly to hear my amusing comments and partly to hear my lovely professional voice.

:D

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

I just find it sad that there are people actively criticizing Michael Jackson, his music, and his fans in the wake of his death. What makes it worse is that they aren't logical, reasoned criticisms - they are personal, and quite frankly, nasty attacks. I can't really understand why, either :confused:

I do agree that the 'hysteria' is over the top from some quarters, but the dignified thing to do is to ignore it, and let it pass - look the other way.

Personally, I am saddened by his death - I had a ticket for one of the January dates and was really looking forward to it, more than I have for any other event in my life. Maybe it's hard to understand for someone who isn't a fan, but I grew up with his music - he was my idol. Some of my early memories were standing up on the stage at a school disco with all my friends (we were all the same), dancing to his songs, trying to copy his dance moves, and then hassling the DJ to play more of his songs.

So I'm sorry if it offends anyone, but as Michael and his music have had such a huge influence on me from an early age, it does feel almost like a personal loss.

Good post.

I am not a massive fan, but understand those who are hurt and he will be missed.

As I said it will be a great great loss to the entertainment industry.

And as a compassionate person and a Father, I do feel for his kids and family.

[Corabar Steve]

So it's OK for you to start a thread about some obscure person that died, that generally I've never heard of and say it a sad loss etc etc though?
Such as?

Sorry Rob and Darren, but my thoughts align with Steve's in many ways. The lad was undoubtedly talented, possibly even genius, but sometimes genius and lunacy are two sides of the same coin.

The word "Hysteria" springs to mind, much as it did with Princess Di. Sorry, but that's the way I see it.Hysteria is right


The point that Darren (I think) and myself were making was that Steve described Michael Jackson as "mediocre at best", No I didn't, I suggest you re-read the post
and yet on more than one occasion he's described bands & artists that half of us haven't even heard of as legendary, which doesn't make sense.

I have no problem with someone describing the most successful singer of the last 30 years as legendary, but as for a band or artist that half of us haven't even heard of...come on!

The Sonics, anyone?

:shrug:Just because you haven't heard of them doesn't make them any less legendary.

Maybe if you actually expanded your horizons & had a listen to music other than the stuff you play at discos you might get my point on that one. Maybe try reading some music magazines? I'd recommend Mojo, Q, Uncut (alright that covers film as well) & Word.

& what's with the bug up your arse about the Sonics????? If you recall, I was actually quoting one or two music journalists when refering to them as "Garage Punk legends, the Sonics" in their chosen genre yes, they are legendary (& a noted influence on both the Kinks & the Rolling Stones), not an over-rated has-been.


For the record, I didn't say I was devastated or worried.

However, I WAS shocked & saddened to hear that the most successful singer in the last 30 years had died so suddenly & at such a young age.Define successful? I'd say Madonna, & Garth Brooks have been more successful in the last 30 (certainly 20) years.

[rob1963]

Maybe if you actually expanded your horizons & had a listen to music other than the stuff you play at discos you might get my point on that one. Maybe try reading some music magazines? I'd recommend Mojo, Q, Uncut (alright that covers film as well) & Word.


You have no idea what music I listen to at home or which music magazines I read, so the above post is not only very patronising, but pointless as well.

[Corabar Steve]

On par with most of yours then.

I'm bored with this now.

You're right I'm wrong OK? :sarc:

[rob1963]

You have no idea what music I listen to at home or which music magazines I read, so the above post is not only very patronising, but pointless as well.


On par with most of yours then.

You think MOST of my posts are patronising & pointless?

Wow...you have a higher opinion of me than I thought!

:rofl:

[Excalibur]

Just to clarify, round one is a picture round, so they HAVE to be printed out.

Round 2 is general knowledge where I call out the questions.

Round 3 is the music round where I play the music clips.

Round 4 is another general knowledge round where I call out the questions.

As for the other reasons why they need to hear me witter on, partly to hear the answers & scores, partly to hear my amusing comments and partly to hear my lovely professional voice.

:D
Just in case the satire went way over your head Rob, I was taking the mickey. ;) :D Oh how I hate explaining jokes. :( :D :D

Good post.

I am not a massive fan, but understand those who are hurt and he will be missed.

As I said it will be a great great loss to the entertainment industry.

And as a compassionate person and a Father, I do feel for his kids and family.
I agree absolutely with all of that Darren, and I do hope that the children are spared the intrusive attentions of the media, they are the innocent ones in this sad matter.



Define successful? I'd say Madonna, & Garth Brooks have been more successful in the last 30 (certainly 20) years.
As have many other acts. In my humble opinion, Michael's best years were behind him, and his output and workload recently had been low. Contrast that with the first one off the top of my head, Edwin Starr, who never stopped working until his untimely death.
While from something Theo said a long while age I'm not sure he would agree wholeheartedly with me, I was deeply upset by the death of Kirsty Maccoll years ago, more so than Mr Jackson. It is of course a personal view, so each person's take on this will differ.

[rob1963]

Just in case the satire went way over your head Rob, I was taking the mickey.

I thought that was the case, but wasn't 100% certain...hence my post!

:D

[DJMaxG]

I walked downstairs, another member of the family was watching the news, and the banner was there that stated he had died.

I was quite surprised, but not majorly shocked.

It's unusual how it just 'happened' though (haven't read other posts yet)
but heard it was due to taking high amounts of a prescribed drug.

It is a Great Loss though

[JAMdisco]

I walked downstairs, another member of the family was watching the news, and the banner was there that stated he had died.

I was quite surprised, but not majorly shocked.

It's unusual how it just 'happened' though (haven't read other posts yet)
but heard it was due to taking high amounts of a prescribed drug.

It is a Great Loss though

:eek: there's a surprise :p ;) :D