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Penfold42
10-07-2009, 05:25 PM
I had a conversation with someone today and the comment they made was -
"An argument is very healthy...."
..is it?

I don't think they are - I think argument's are very destructive and usually people say things they don't mean in the heat of battle and regret them later....

Discussion's are slightly different (as I see it) as they rarely end in confrontation....well that the way I see it.....

What do you think...:)

...or am I talking gibberish...:sj:

Solitaire Events Ltd
10-07-2009, 05:31 PM
I had a conversation with someone today and the comment they made was -
"An argument is very healthy...."
..is it?

I don't think they are - I think argument's are very destructive and usually people say things they don't mean in the heat of battle and regret them later....

Discussion's are slightly different (as I see it) as they rarely end in confrontation....well that the way I see it.....

What do you think...:)

...or am I talking gibberish...:sj:

Yep :boxer2:

Jonny Boy
10-07-2009, 05:32 PM
Good topic!

Conflict IS bad. Argument doesn't have to mean conflict tho'. The difference between arguement and discussion to me is that the cases/evidence fo differences of opinion can be exchanged, the result of which is that all parties are better informed, even if their minds are not changed.

It has point and counters...whereas a discussion does not seem to lead anywhere.

rob1963
10-07-2009, 05:40 PM
I had a conversation with someone today and the comment they made was -
"An argument is very healthy...."
..is it?

I don't think they are - I think argument's are very destructive and usually people say things they don't mean in the heat of battle and regret them later....

Discussion's are slightly different (as I see it) as they rarely end in confrontation....well that the way I see it.....

What do you think...:)

...or am I talking gibberish...:sj:

Interesting subject, Tony.

I agree with the person you were talking to that arguments are healthy.

Why?

Because they are sometimes necessary to clear the air, rather than bottling things up...which is definately NOT a healthy thing to do.

:)

Tom
10-07-2009, 06:57 PM
I'm not so sure to be honest.

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Because they are sometimes necessary to clear the air, rather than bottling things up...

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...I think argument's are very destructive and usually people say things they don't mean in the heat of battle and regret them later....




I had a rather big argument with my fiancée last year which ended us not talking to each other for about a week.

That was soul destroying it really was. It was over silly things but that's not the point.

The point is that we had an argument, we both let out our feelings and we both said stuff we wish we shouldn't of said.


I have no idea how that is healthy. :confused:

All is good now. lol.

DeckstarDeluxe
10-07-2009, 07:02 PM
I worry about couples that say that they dont have fights or arguements. Its how you as a couple deal with it in the long run. It also shows that you care about things rather than just accepting the way things are because its less hassle.

Of course I say that Ive not been in a relationship for five years :confused:

Solitaire Events Ltd
10-07-2009, 07:05 PM
If you didn't talk for a week over petty things Tom, then you need to improve your communication - both of you.

Shaun
10-07-2009, 07:07 PM
Because they are sometimes necessary to clear the air, rather than bottling things up...which is definately NOT a healthy thing to do.

:)

Really? I'd have thought sitting down and discussing things like adults is more productive than arguing. I'd have to strongly disagree with you that arguments are sometimes neccesary to clear the air.

I reckon arguments are more suited to people that don't have the mental fortitude to discuss matters in a non heated and intelligent way.

Tom
10-07-2009, 07:10 PM
If you didn't talk for a week over petty things Tom, then you need to improve your communication - both of you.

We have. We both have learned a great deal just from that one argument. No it's wasn't nice but we both know we wanted each other and that was it. :)


Anyway, moving on from my personal life. lol. :D

rob1963
10-07-2009, 07:19 PM
I'd have thought sitting down and discussing things like adults is more productive than arguing.

In the perfect world, yes.

However, in the REAL world, we all know that when we sit down with someone to discuss things we aren't happy with, it can easily lead to an argument.

However, as I've already said, that's not a bad thing, as it is sometimes needed to clear the air.


I'd have to strongly disagree with you that arguments are sometimes neccesary to clear the air.

You are quite entitled to do so!


I reckon arguments are more suited to people that don't have the mental fortitude to discuss matters in a non heated and intelligent way.

Again, that's a lovely idea in the perfect world, but (in my opinion) a rather naive one in the REAL world.

Solitaire Events Ltd
10-07-2009, 07:23 PM
I reckon arguments are more suited to people that don't have the mental fortitude to discuss matters in a non heated and intelligent way.

I like a good argument. :D

:coat: :bag: :taxi:

Penfold42
10-07-2009, 07:25 PM
Yep :boxer2:
Shut up you. :sj:

I'd have thought sitting down and discussing things like adults is more productive than arguing.
:agree:

This is he angle I like to take.


I reckon arguments are more suited to people that don't have the mental fortitude to discuss matters in a non heated and intelligent way.

:agree:

This is where the non productive "slagging each other off" come into play....very hurtful and non-productive which is where people run off with their mouths which result in barriers coming down and people leaving themselves feeling bitter and twisted.

IMO. :)

rob1963
10-07-2009, 07:31 PM
Just to clarify, I'm not saying you should set out to have arguments, only to have discussions.

However, if the discussions get heated & turn into arguments, that's not a bad thing, as it can allow you can get things off your chest & clear the air.

For the record, In the real world I rarely have arguments.

Unfortunately, this forum doesn't count as the real world!

:D :D :D

Jiggles
10-07-2009, 07:39 PM
Argument: a fact or assertion offered as evidence that something is true; "it was a strong argument that his hypothesis was true"

Discussions: Debate or debating is a formal method of interactive and representational argument. Debate is a broader form of argument than logical argument

:sofa:

rob1963
10-07-2009, 07:45 PM
I reckon arguments are more suited to people that don't have the mental fortitude to discuss matters in a non heated and intelligent way.

Out of interest, which category do you put yourself in?

Someone with the mental fortitude to discuss matters in a non-heated & intelligent way, or someone who DOES have arguments?

Excalibur
10-07-2009, 08:13 PM
I like a good argument. :D

:coat: :bag: :taxi:

I tend to take the sensible, helpful, obvious and adult way out, as you might expect.











I sulk. :( :(

rob1963
10-07-2009, 08:16 PM
I tend to take the sensible, helpful, obvious and adult way out, as you might expect.

I sulk. :( :(

When do you do that?

After you LOSE an argument?

:eek: :D :p

Excalibur
11-07-2009, 03:29 PM
When do you do that?

After you LOSE an argument?

:eek: :D :p

How touching to see such innocence. Rob, do you think a master of the spoken and written word, with a Public School education such as myself would ever lose an argument? ( Unless it's with my wife Jeanette, in which case normal rules don't apply, and I'm beaten before I start. :( :( :( )