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Babybob
12-07-2009, 02:55 PM
For all the full timers out there....

Do you have to supply a first aid kit and be a qualified first aider or does the venue have to provide this.

Also if you have staff on your payroll do you have to carry out risk assessments and maybe provide training on lifting techniques/manual handling etc.

Ajaysdisco
12-07-2009, 10:11 PM
It’s a difficult question to give you a straight answer so I suggest you refer to the following:

Linky (http://www.hse.gov.uk/)

Penfold42
12-07-2009, 10:13 PM
First aid....well you open up a right bag of worms there then!

rob1963
12-07-2009, 10:22 PM
For all the full timers out there....

Do you have to supply a first aid kit

No.


and be a qualified first aider

No.


or does the venue have to provide this.

As far as I know, yes.


Also if you have staff on your payroll do you have to carry out risk assessments and maybe provide training on lifting techniques/manual handling etc.

I don't employ anyone else, but I know all about risk assessments, lifting techniques & manual handling, as I saw all the videos on a regular basis when I had the day job.

Jiggles
12-07-2009, 10:28 PM
I carry a personal first aid kit and can do basic first aid. I think i have done about 5 courses on it. Scouts twice and school 3 times!

Charlie Brown
12-07-2009, 11:02 PM
Hang on. Let's just wait for Darren, :D :approve:

Dynamic Entertainment
12-07-2009, 11:10 PM
I carry a personal first aid kit and can do basic first aid. I think i have done about 5 courses on it. Scouts twice and school 3 times!

Its all well and good saying you "do" First Aid, but the Scout badge doesnt have your back (this isnt an insult, been there, done that, got the badges :D).

When you take a first aid course with the likes for the Red Cross, and become a quallified First Aider, then you have the support of a recognised organisation, should someone wish to take you to court.

This has happened in the past. When i done my Red Cross training (with the day job) the instructor was saying about a case where a qualified First Aider was taken to court for saving a womans life. The First Aider administered Chest Compressions and in doing so, cracked the injured's ribs (which is apparantly a common problem with chest compressions). The injured began court proceedings, and the Red Cross provided the First Aider with legal council and support throughout, because she was "qualified" and had acted correctly.

The case was kicked out.

Jiggles
12-07-2009, 11:14 PM
Yeh all my courses were done ether by the ambulance service or the red cross! I have the certificate for them somewhere.

DeckstarDeluxe
12-07-2009, 11:16 PM
Its all well and good saying you "do" First Aid, but the Scout badge doesnt have your back (this isnt an insult, been there, done that, got the badges :D).

When you take a first aid course with the likes for the Red Cross, and become a quallified First Aider, then you have the support of a recognised organisation, should someone wish to take you to court.

This has happened in the past. When i done my Red Cross training (with the day job) the instructor was saying about a case where a qualified First Aider was taken to court for saving a womans life. The First Aider administered Chest Compressions and in doing so, cracked the injured's ribs (which is apparantly a common problem with chest compressions). The injured began court proceedings, and the Red Cross provided the First Aider with legal council and support throughout, because she was "qualified" and had acted correctly.

The case was kicked out.


Let me get this right.... Saved her life and got taken to court?

Dynamic Entertainment
12-07-2009, 11:17 PM
Yeh all my courses were done ether by the ambulance service or the red cross! I have the certificate for them somewhere.

:approve: - I know that orgainisations (scouts, guides, etc), have a tendancy to just look at what is required for the badge, and do it "in-house".

Dig out the certificated and check the dates, youll find the have a shelf life of about 3 years.

Also, if its with the Red Cross, loo at joining their "community". We were all asked to fill in a for at the end and we get updates through weekly via email about whats going on and how practices are developing.

The community has a official name, ill tryy and dig it out. :)

Yep Neil - Tried to sue for a broken rib. The red cross called doctors to the stands to say shge would have died if it wernt for the first aider, so the judge kicked it out after the first witness statement.

JTRS
13-07-2009, 02:13 PM
Let me get this right.... Saved her life and got taken to court?

I can well believe that, most Doctors/Nurses are now encouraged not to get involved if they are off duty because the number of legal cases brought against the person who offers assistance has increased dramatically over the last 3 or 4 years.

Personally speaking, if someone stepped in an adminstered first aid to me the last thing I would do is sue them, especially if it saved my life

JTRS