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flatliners
08-08-2009, 01:12 PM
how many people are really happy with there rig i know i am not just thought i would do a poll

ppentertainments
08-08-2009, 01:24 PM
I am not happy and don't think I ever will be with new technologies etc.

However the real questions to think about should be - Is the rig sufficient, are the customers happy and is it appropriate to your market.

There are some people who have brilliant rigs, excellent speakers etc etc yet go out for £150 and leave the rig looking a mess.

I am always amazed on forums the amount some people constantly spend. Fine if its a hobby but does not make good business practice at all, unless you get the extra income to justify it.

Charlie Brown
08-08-2009, 01:36 PM
Everything he said. :D

"Us" as DJ's will never be content with our rigs. We are aware of new products being released all the time. "If only I had that new moving head...."

It's a vicious circle in a way. From a clients/punters point of view my rig is substantial and serves it's purpose very well.

wensleydale
08-08-2009, 01:40 PM
i'm happy.
life's too short.

rob1963
08-08-2009, 01:50 PM
However the real questions to think about should be - Is the rig sufficient, are the customers happy and is it appropriate to your market.

Very good point.

After all, it's our customers views that REALLY matter...not ours.


There are some people who have brilliant rigs, excellent speakers etc etc yet go out for £150 and leave the rig looking a mess.

Exactly.

This proves the point that as long as it's up to the job, that's fine...but your set up is far less important than the service you provide.

After all, there's no point having the best, latest & most expensive equipment if you ignore clients' emails, turn up late & don't play their requests.


I am always amazed on forums the amount some people constantly spend. Fine if its a hobby but does not make good business practice at all, unless you get the extra income to justify it.

I couldn't agree more, and I feel this is something lots of people forget.

If I wanted to, I could go out tomorrow and spend ten grand replacing my set up with some of the latest, best & most expensive gear, but I couldn't charge clients any more, as I'd still be providing exactly the same level of service...just with more up to date & more expensive kit, so I don't see the point.

My set up certainly won't win any prizes, but that's irrelevant. This year, more than a third of my clients have sent very complimentary & unsolicited feedback, either in the form of emails or cards, and THAT'S what really matters.

wensleydale
08-08-2009, 01:54 PM
If I wanted to, I could go out tomorrow and spend ten grand replacing my set up with some of the latest, best & most expensive gear, but I couldn't charge clients any more, as I'd still be providing exactly the same level of service...just with more up to date & more expensive kit, so I don't see the point.


I disagree with that Rob- I think the level of kit you have is a major part of justifying your prices- specifically for certain types of events.

Part of your service is the hire of the equipment.

flatliners
08-08-2009, 01:54 PM
well i dont think i will ever be happy but i have my ideas

rob1963
08-08-2009, 02:05 PM
I think the level of kit you have is a major part of justifying your prices

We'll have to agree to disagree then, because in my opinion there are only two major parts of justifying your prices...the level of service you provide and the amount of experience you have.

Going on your way of thinking, when I upgraded from CDs to digital last year (a move which cost me about £2,000) I should have put my charges up, but the thought didn't even cross my mind.

:shrug:

Solitaire Events Ltd
08-08-2009, 02:11 PM
Rob

There are occasions when you do corporate stuff that certain kit is requested. There are also people who supply 'nightclub' style rigs and video discos, so I'm afraid the kit does matter.

Everything does. Not always in equal amounts, but it does.

rob1963
08-08-2009, 02:21 PM
There are occasions when you do corporate stuff that certain kit is requested.

Fair enough, but I was speaking from my own point of view & experiences, and I don't do corporate stuff where certain kit is requested, so that doesn't apply to me.


There are also people who supply 'nightclub' style rigs and video discos

Fair enough, but again that doesn't apply to me.


so I'm afraid the kit does matter.

I'm not saying it doesn't...just that in my opinion the two most important things by a mile which determine what you can charge for a mobile disco for weddings, birthday parties etc are how much experience you have & what level of service you provide.

DeckstarDeluxe
08-08-2009, 02:29 PM
Nope not happy with rig. Never have been never will be. Doesnt mean I stop trying to mind!

I'd be alot happier once I have the James H Deckstand, Pioneer mep7000 and two irock 6s. Best part of 3k...... :(

Oh and smoke machine and..........

Paul S
08-08-2009, 02:34 PM
Rob, surely the service you provide is partly dependent on the equipment you have? If a DJ has equipment that is wrong or inappropriate for the event they're catering for because they haven't invested, then they're not providing a good service.

wensleydale
08-08-2009, 03:05 PM
I'm not saying it doesn't...just that in my opinion the two most important things by a mile which determine what you can charge for a mobile disco for weddings, birthday parties etc are how much experience you have & what level of service you provide.

But surely the level of the kit, the adaptability of it, the atmosphere it provides and the way it all looks it part of the service- quite a big one.

rob1963
08-08-2009, 03:34 PM
Rob, surely the service you provide is partly dependent on the equipment you have?

Of course it is, and I'm not saying otherwise.


If a DJ has equipment that is wrong or inappropriate for the event they're catering for because they haven't invested, then they're not providing a good service.

I completely agree, and as I've said before the equipment has to be up to the job...but that's about it.


But surely the level of the kit, the adaptability of it, the atmosphere it provides and the way it all looks it part of the service - quite a big one.

Rich, I could spend thousands on new kit & nobody would even notice.

For example, I could replace my D2 with an HD2500, my Mackie speakers with a pair of RCF speakers and my 10 year old warrior amp with one of the latest top of the range amps...but what would that achieve? Just a massive increase to my expenses & a reduction in my profits, which would bother me a lot, because unlike you I don't also have a day job.

:shrug:

wensleydale
08-08-2009, 03:55 PM
Rich, I could spend thousands on new kit & nobody would even notice.

For example, I could replace my D2 with an HD2500, my Mackie speakers with a pair of RCF speakers and my 10 year old warrior amp with one of the latest top of the range amps...but what would that achieve? Just a massive increase to my expenses & a reduction in my profits, which would bother me a lot, because unlike you I don't also have a day job.

:shrug:

Sorry Rob but I disagree - otherwise how would you explain other people charging double what you do for similar "service"- they turn up on time and have the same level of music but there must be some other difference- I would say that the bulk of that difference is the equipment- whether it be uplighting, lasers or whatever.

I appreciate I'm in a fortunate position in that I have a day job and dont rely on Disco income, however I dont really see what that has to do with this discussion- I'm talking about maximising revenue and profits.

spin mobile disco
08-08-2009, 04:08 PM
Im currently happy with my rig. When new things are released i will rethink but at the moment pretty happy.

rob1963
08-08-2009, 04:22 PM
Rich, I could spend thousands on new kit & nobody would even notice.

For example, I could replace my D2 with an HD2500, my Mackie speakers with a pair of RCF speakers and my 10 year old warrior amp with one of the latest top of the range amps...but what would that achieve? Just a massive increase to my expenses & a reduction in my profits, which would bother me a lot, because unlike you I don't also have a day job.

:shrug:


Sorry Rob but I disagree

What do you disagree with?

Do you disagree that if I bought the equipment mentioned above customers wouldn't notice the difference?

:confused:


otherwise how would you explain other people charging double what you do for similar "service"

Firstly, you don't know exactly what service I provide, and secondly there are also people with better equipment than me who charge LESS than I do.


they turn up on time and have the same level of music but there must be some other difference

There are lots of other differences, equipment being one of the lesser ones.


I would say that the bulk of that difference is the equipment - whether it be uplighting, lasers or whatever.

I disagree.

Do you increase your prices every time you replace a piece of equipment with something more modern or more expensive, then?

Uplighting is a different service to mobile discos anyway, and lasers are not appropriate for weddings, which account for 90% of my work.


I appreciate I'm in a fortunate position in that I have a day job and dont rely on Disco income, however I dont really see what that has to do with this discussion - I'm talking about maximising revenue and profits.

For what it's worth, I think people with a day job are in an UNFORTUNATE position rather that a fortunate one, as this has a negative effect on the level of service they can provide...partly because they can't always answer phone calls & emails during the day, and partly because they don't have as much time available to dedicate to their clients.

wensleydale
08-08-2009, 05:06 PM
Sorry Rob, but I dont see how you can say Lasers are not suitable for weddings- I also do 95% weddings and use one at each gig.

You still havent really answered the point about what you think the difference in price would be if it isnt equipment?

rob1963
08-08-2009, 05:19 PM
Sorry Rob, but I dont see how you can say Lasers are not suitable for weddings- I also do 95% weddings and use one at each gig.

That's just my opinion, so we'll have to agree to differ on that one.


You still havent really answered the point about what you think the difference in price would be if it isnt equipment?

There are loads of things, including experience, level of service, whether you have PAT & PLI, how much music you have, whether you are full time or part time and so on.

As I've already said, equipment DOES come into it, but in my opinion it's one of the less important things.

DJMaxG
08-08-2009, 05:30 PM
If I wanted to, I could go out tomorrow and spend ten grand replacing my set up with some of the latest, best & most expensive gear, but I couldn't charge clients any more, as I'd still be providing exactly the same level of service

Correct :)

as long as you have James's booth :D

In other words ... It doesn't matter what is behind the facade or whatever, it is what the crowd see that's important.

I would like a larger rig, but then again I wouldn't as there's nowhere to store it. In the future, I shall probably extend my gear and offer Mobile Services with it.

I Agree with what Darren said about nightclub style requests, but unless you specialise in it, the gear can easily be hired in at extra cost.

I Know a Mobile DJ from London, who aims to create the Night Club Scenario using 2 X RCF 525s and a range of various modern effect lighting. No Strobes or Moving heads. But It's Great to see still, he uses a lot more lights than most would.

rob1963
08-08-2009, 06:32 PM
It doesn't matter what is behind the facade or whatever, it is what the crowd see that's important.

And what they HEAR is even MORE important!

DJMaxG
08-08-2009, 08:08 PM
And what they HEAR is even MORE important!

Yes, admittedly :)

But the question was asking whether people were happy with their rig

Sound specifically is a whole other can of worms

DeckstarDeluxe
09-08-2009, 02:14 AM
sorry what a load of rubbish

Your saying that you could just turn up to a wedding disco plug in an ipod into a docking station and do a successful night?

Its like saying you dont need a fast car to win the f1 championship. Winning the premierleague with Hull City etc..

rob1963
09-08-2009, 09:04 AM
But the question was asking whether people were happy with their rig

I am, even though my rig is pretty basic.

My client feedback confirms my thoughts on this.


sorry what a load of rubbish

If that comment is directed at me, what are you on about?


Your saying that you could just turn up to a wedding disco plug in an ipod into a docking station and do a successful night?

No, I'm not saying that at all.

If you actually read my posts in this thread, you will notice that I've clearly said that the gear has to be up to the job & there are minimum standards. An ipod & a docking station clearly don't meet those minimum standards.

I'm happy for you to disagree with my opinions, but please don't put words into my mouth.


Its like saying you dont need a fast car to win the f1 championship.

It's NOTHING like that at all.

Of course you need the best/fastest car to win the F1 championship, but you certainly don't need the best (latest, top of the range & most expensive) equipment to do a successful night.

The only thing you NEED the latest, top of the range & most expensive equipment for is willy waving.

Funnily enough, a few years ago I honestly thought that the main thing which determined what you could charge was the gear you had. I then joined this forum & quickly learned how wrong I was.

I was never one of those people with an equipment page on my website, but I did have a few basic details including the wattages of my lightshow & sound system, all of which were removed thanks to what I learned from this forum.

welby
09-08-2009, 09:27 AM
I was never one of those people with an equipment page on my website, but I did have a few basic details including the wattages of my lightshow & sound system, all of which were removed thanks to what I learned from this forum.

Hi Rob, can you please expand on this as I have an equipment page on my web and was wondering what made you remove the information.

Thanks.

ppentertainments
09-08-2009, 09:39 AM
I think a lot of the arguments come down to what you sell.
1. yourself
2. your equipment
3. both

On the whole I am in the number 1 section but occasionally (corporate and a few weddings) I fall into number 3.

Those who sell on number 2 probably are not happy with the equipment, those on number 3 will probably be 50/50.

No proof to back this up just a personal opinion.

welby
09-08-2009, 09:41 AM
I think a lot of the arguments come down to what you sell.
1. yourself
2. your equipment
3. both

On the whole I am in the number 1 section but occasionally (corporate and a few weddings) I fall into number 3.

Those who sell on number 2 probably are not happy with the equipment, those on number 3 will probably be 50/50.

No proof to back this up just a personal opinion.

Ah right - I see where this is going.

I personaly prefer to have my kit on the website.

Thanks for the reply.

rob1963
09-08-2009, 09:43 AM
Hi Rob, can you please expand on this as I have an equipment page on my web and was wondering what made you remove the information.

Thanks.

If you do a search, you'll find a number of threads on this, but basically this is what it boils down to...the only people who might be interested in equipment pages are other DJs.

Stating what makes & models of CD players, amplifiers, speakers etc that you use is pretty pointless, as clients really don't care, and it won't mean anything to them anyway.

All that matters is that your system is up to the job & you provide the service they want.

:)


I think a lot of the arguments come down to what you sell.
1. yourself
2. your equipment
3. both

On the whole I am in the number 1 section but occasionally (corporate and a few weddings) I fall into number 3.

I am 100% number one, which is why there's no mention of equipment on my website.

rob1963
09-08-2009, 09:57 AM
I personaly prefer to have my kit on the website.


Whoaaaaaa welby...you certainly do.

I've seen a number of disco websites with an equipment page, but yours is the first one I've seen with SEVEN equipment pages!

:jawdrop:

Tony Scott
09-08-2009, 10:26 AM
The only thing you NEED the latest, top of the range & most expensive equipment for is willy waving.

Not sure I agree with that Rob, I've seen some pretty ropey looking rigs in plush venues and it just looks wrong......having quality kit that's well presented can make a big difference.

I had a client come to see me last night to check out my rig, wanted to make sure it would be look right in his chosen venue; Sandbanks Hotel, Poole....serious venue! He popped in at 7.30pm before the night had started so he was not checking me out, just the rig....here's his email:

RE: Wedding Disco enquiry‏
From: Boyes, Sam (Sam.Boyes@******.co.uk)
Sent: 23 June 2009 13:20:35
To: Tony Scott ([email protected])
Hi Tony,

the wedding at either Dorchester on the 1st Aug or Weymouth on the 8th would be good for us, if you could let me know which you think will be most similar to The Sandbanks Hotel then we shall pop in for 5 minutes to that one, just to see your setup

many thanks
Sam



I was never one of those people with an equipment page on my website.....

.......the only people who might be interested in equipment pages are other DJs.

Stating what makes & models of CD players, amplifiers, speakers etc that you use is pretty pointless, as clients really don't care, and it won't mean anything to them anyway.

That I agree with, I used to detail all my kit and yes it was only willy waving, the list has long gone but I still go into some detail about my equipment: http://www.partyshopdisco.co.uk/equipment


I'm quite happy with my rig, I'd like some new wind-up stands and some light-weight amps but apart from that it's all good. :)

rob1963
09-08-2009, 10:35 AM
The only thing you NEED the latest, top of the range & most expensive equipment for is willy waving.


Not sure I agree with that Rob, I've seen some pretty ropey looking rigs in plush venues and it just looks wrong......having quality kit that's well presented can make a big difference.

Just to clarify what I was saying, Tony...you don't need the latest, top of the range & most expensive equipment to do a good job & provide a fantastic service.

I completely agree that ropey looking rigs in plush venues look wrong.

As I've already said, there are minimum standards.

:)

Tony Scott
09-08-2009, 04:09 PM
Just to clarify what I was saying, Tony...you don't need the latest, top of the range & most expensive equipment to do a good job & provide a fantastic service.

I completely agree that ropey looking rigs in plush venues look wrong.

As I've already said, there are minimum standards.

:)

We're in total agreement then Rob! :)

rob1963
09-08-2009, 10:09 PM
We're in total agreement then Rob! :)

Excellent!

As for the Sandbanks hotel being a serious venue, you're not wrong there!

I've driven past it a few times, although I've never been inside...but I've stayed at the Haven Hotel just down the road from it...also very nice!

:)

ppentertainments
09-08-2009, 10:36 PM
It is interesting this thread, and I think Rob may come in here, but for my race nights I have used the same equipment for the past 4 years. It is very basic and simple but 'improving' in any way does not bring better results. Same with the photography side of my business, I rarely need to upgrade.

Yet come to discos, I could buy a completely new rig now and by next month something new, and better, will come along, which if I asked opinions would be a 'must buy'.

To 'sum up', I bring in equal, or more income, from other streams than discos yet a bulk of my spending goes on disco.

I will put my head on the line here, and say the real reason people are unhappy with their rigs and equipment is due to the general perception that dj's are not good businessmen, sell your service not your equipment !!


(waits for the incoming attack)

rob1963
09-08-2009, 10:54 PM
It is interesting this thread, and I think Rob may come in here, but for my race nights I have used the same equipment for the past 4 years. It is very basic and simple but 'improving' in any way does not bring better results. Same with the photography side of my business, I rarely need to upgrade.

Yet come to discos, I could buy a completely new rig now and by next month something new, and better, will come along, which if I asked opinions would be a 'must buy'.

To 'sum up', I bring in equal, or more income, from other streams than discos yet a bulk of my spending goes on disco.

I will put my head on the line here, and say the real reason people are unhappy with their rigs and equipment is due to the general perception that dj's are not good businessmen, sell your service not your equipment !!


(waits for the incoming attack)

Certainly no attack from me!

How nice to see someone ELSE who says sell your service & NOT your equipment.

Respect!

:D

DeckstarDeluxe
09-08-2009, 11:20 PM
Certainly no attack from me!

How nice to see someone ELSE who says sell your service & NOT your equipment.

Respect!

:D

In that case I look forward to you posting a picture of your rig in the gallery section very soon then, seeing as your happy with it and all?

Its an ever changing industry and you need to change and upgrade things to move with the times.

Nobody said here that if your a good dj with bad equipment you wont beat a naff dj with good equipment.

To copy a little line from Darren.... (Everybody now)

"Everything matters". Just because customers dont tell you as such doesnt mean it shouldnt matter.

ppentertainments
09-08-2009, 11:28 PM
In that case I look forward to you posting a picture of your rig in the gallery section very soon then, seeing as your happy with it and all?

Its an ever changing industry and you need to change and upgrade things to move with the times.

Nobody said here that if your a good dj with bad equipment you wont beat a naff dj with good equipment.

To copy a little line from Darren.... (Everybody now)

"Everything matters". Just because customers dont tell you as such doesnt mean it shouldnt matter.
But, without assuming, is that quote not directed as your business as a whole and not just your equipment :confused:

DeckstarDeluxe
09-08-2009, 11:39 PM
Its an ever changing industry and you need to change and upgrade things to move with the times.

Nobody said here that if your a good dj with bad equipment you wont beat a naff dj with good equipment. [quote]

[quote=ppentertainments;364662]But, without assuming, is that quote not directed as your business as a whole and not just your equipment :confused:

Never said it was just about equipment

Mark Wild
09-08-2009, 11:39 PM
there are minimum standards.

:)

but surely these "minimum standards" differ, I have minimum standards that are personal to me, but these are most likely different to yours. There are no official minimum standards to adhere to.

Come on now surely the guys that go out with equipment which is less than what YOU would call a minimum standard, are of the opinion it reaches such a standard in their minds.

Creature
09-08-2009, 11:48 PM
i got 3 rigs and am happy with them all at this time - but tommorrow ???????

rob1963
10-08-2009, 12:05 AM
In that case I look forward to you posting a picture of your rig in the gallery section very soon then, seeing as your happy with it and all?

Sorry, but that won't be happening.

As far as I know, the gallery is for people to post pics of their rig when they want peoples opinions & comments on it..which I certainly don't.


Its an ever changing industry and you need to change and upgrade things to move with the times.

Why?

Before my digital move, I used the same equipment for many years.

I see nothing wrong with that, and more importantly neither did my clients.


but surely these "minimum standards" differ, I have minimum standards that are personal to me, but these are most likely different to yours. There are no official minimum standards to adhere to.


That's true, but if we set our minimum standards too low, the clients & punters will soon let us know.

JAMdisco
10-08-2009, 08:31 AM
Sorry, but that won't be happening.
As far as I know, the gallery is for people to post pics of their rig when they want peoples opinions & comments on it..which I certainly don't.


Not always Rob, some people just like to show others how they set up to give inspiration. I know I used to look at the gallery when I first joined (around the same time I started doing disco's) and I got some very good ideas from it.

I used to look at some pics and just think 'wow'!!!

I now am pleased with my rig and more importantly so are my clients, But I think you are right Rob, in that most of my positive feedback is due to the music I play and level of interaction with the crowd (this Saturday was a prime example of that). :)

I know it won't be happening but it would be nice to see a pic of your rig. You never know, everyone might like it ;) :D

rob1963
10-08-2009, 10:31 AM
Not always Rob, some people just like to show others how they set up to give inspiration. I know I used to look at the gallery when I first joined (around the same time I started doing disco's) and I got some very good ideas from it.

I used to look at some pics and just think 'wow'!!!

Translation: Some people like to use the gallery for willy waving! :D


I now am pleased with my rig and more importantly so are my clients, But I think you are right Rob, in that most of my positive feedback is due to the music I play and level of interaction with the crowd (this Saturday was a prime example of that). :)

Spot on.

I get more complimentary & unsolicited feedback than ever before, and it's about the SERVICE I provide, which is exactly what I want.

The day my positive feedback is about my EQUIPMENT is the day I'll need to give up...because it's MYSELF I sell, not the equipment.


I know it won't be happening but it would be nice to see a pic of your rig. You never know, everyone might like it ;) :D

And pigs might fly!

I'm already more open about my business than the majority on here, but I'm not about to set myself up for more grief by posting up pics.

Excalibur
10-08-2009, 11:10 AM
Translation: Some people like to use the gallery for willy waving! :D
Nothing wrong with that mate. ( Assuming you've got something to wave). ;) :p :D :D :D




Spot on.

I get more complimentary & unsolicited feedback than ever before, and it's about the SERVICE I provide, which is exactly what I want.

The day my positive feedback is about my EQUIPMENT is the day I'll need to give up...because it's MYSELF I sell, not the equipment.
Phew. Otherwise you'd be :Censored: . :p :D :D :D



I'm already more open about my business than the majority on here, but I'm not about to set myself up for more grief by posting up pics.
You could always post one of the Platinum Rig, the one with 50% extra lights. ;) :D :D

PropellerHeadCase
10-08-2009, 01:34 PM
We'll have to agree to disagree then, because in my opinion there are only two major parts of justifying your prices...the level of service you provide and the amount of experience you have.

Going on your way of thinking, when I upgraded from CDs to digital last year (a move which cost me about £2,000) I should have put my charges up, but the thought didn't even cross my mind.

Then again, as your cost per gig with regard to labour and wear and tear would reduce (no boxes of CDs to lug, no CDs to replace, improved fuel efficiency due to less weight, etc.), you could equally well justify keeping them exactly the same.


...just that in my opinion the two most important things by a mile which determine what you can charge for a mobile disco for weddings, birthday parties etc are how much experience you have & what level of service you provide.

For the most part, yes, although from an accounting point of view you would need to factor in the cost of the equipment, the depreciation thereon, etc



Rob, surely the service you provide is partly dependent on the equipment you have? If a DJ has equipment that is wrong or inappropriate for the event they're catering for because they haven't invested, then they're not providing a good service.

Also agreed.



But surely the level of the kit, the adaptability of it, the atmosphere it provides and the way it all looks it part of the service- quite a big one.

And agreed again.



I really do wonder if it would be possible to get something approaching agreement on what constitutes a reasonable minimum standard for a basic wedding.

Solitaire Events Ltd
10-08-2009, 01:43 PM
I really do wonder if it would be possible to get something approaching agreement on what constitutes a reasonable minimum standard for a basic wedding.

I doubt that very much!

rob1963
10-08-2009, 01:54 PM
Then again, as your cost per gig with regard to labour and wear and tear would reduce (no boxes of CDs to lug, no CDs to replace, improved fuel efficiency due to less weight, etc.), you could equally well justify keeping them exactly the same.

Funnily enough, I did consider that when I upgraded, although my thinking went even further.

Not only could the above benefits be used to justify keeping prices exactly the same, but you could go further & use them to justify REDUCING your prices!


I really do wonder if it would be possible to get something approaching agreement on what constitutes a reasonable minimum standard for a basic wedding.

Of course not, because there is no right or wrong answer. It's all about opinions, and everyones will be different.

JAMdisco
10-08-2009, 03:30 PM
Of course not, because there is no right or wrong answer. It's all about opinions, and everyones will be different.

But only mine will be the right one :D :D :D :sofa:

rob1963
10-08-2009, 03:57 PM
But only mine will be the right one :D :D :D :sofa:

:Laugh:

PropellerHeadCase
10-08-2009, 04:28 PM
But only mine will be the right one :D :D :D :sofa:

I disagree ;)

Excalibur
10-08-2009, 06:42 PM
I really do wonder if it would be possible to get something approaching agreement on what constitutes a reasonable minimum standard for a basic wedding.


I doubt that very much!

I feel a thread coming on. ;) ;) ;)

Mark Wild
10-08-2009, 06:46 PM
but surely these "minimum standards" differ, I have minimum standards that are personal to me, but these are most likely different to yours. There are no official minimum standards to adhere to.

Come on now surely the guys that go out with equipment which is less than what YOU would call a minimum standard, are of the opinion it reaches such a standard in their minds.




I feel a thread coming on. ;) ;) ;)

Me too ;)

Shakermaker Promotions
10-08-2009, 08:11 PM
If I wasn't happy with my rig(s) then I wouldn't go out with them.

Solitaire Events Ltd
10-08-2009, 08:19 PM
If I wasn't happy with my rig(s) then I wouldn't go out with them.

So you like everything about them? There's nothing you'd change at all?

Shakermaker Promotions
10-08-2009, 09:20 PM
Actually I do mate but that's not to say that IF I had the funds available that I wouldn't go out and get some moving heads and some other bits. What I am saying is that I would not go out on the road if I wasn't totally happy and confident with the kit that I am using.

rob1963
10-08-2009, 09:21 PM
Looks like one in three people are happy with their rig.

I'm pleasantly surprised, as that's a fair bit higher than I expected, especially when you consider all the posts here from people who always seem to be buying new kit.

:shrug:

Shakermaker Promotions
10-08-2009, 09:25 PM
Rob, Just because people (including myself) buy new stuff doesn't mean that we aren't happy with the rigs. I personally think that you have to move with the times and invest in new stuff (playout systems, lights etc).

rob1963
10-08-2009, 09:29 PM
Rob, Just because people (including myself) buy new stuff doesn't mean that we aren't happy with the rigs.

Not always, but that often IS the case.

Excalibur
10-08-2009, 09:36 PM
Me too ;)

Ive tried three times to do it, but I'm beaten by pasting a Word table into the forum successfully. It won't do spacing. :bang:

If I wasn't happy with my rig(s) then I wouldn't go out with them.
As much as I'd hate to imply that you're fibbing: I don't believe you. :D


So you like everything about them? There's nothing you'd change at all?
We all want to change something. It's the nature of the beast. ;)


Looks like one in three people are happy with their rig.

I'm pleasantly surprised, as that's a fair bit higher than I expected, especially when you consider all the posts here from people who always seem to be buying new kit.

:shrug:
I'd have said one in three hundred happy was higher than I expected. ;)

Shakermaker Promotions
10-08-2009, 09:47 PM
Excalibur - I'm not fibbing/lying/telling porkies or anything mate...I am happy with my kit. It may not be to everyone's liking or up there with the best of them but at the end of the day...I am happy and that's what the OP was asking.

rob1963
10-08-2009, 10:37 PM
I'm happy with my rig, including my 10 year old amp, 15 year old scanners and very average lighting! :D

Mark Wild
10-08-2009, 10:38 PM
I'm happy with my rig, including my 10 year old amp and 15 year old scanners.

:D

below minimun standard :p

rob1963
10-08-2009, 10:40 PM
below minimum standard :p

The minimum standard of WHO?

:p

Mark Wild
10-08-2009, 10:41 PM
The minimum standard of WHO?

:p

That is the question ! lol :D

rob1963
10-08-2009, 10:42 PM
That is the question ! lol :D

:rofl:

Excalibur
11-08-2009, 06:48 AM
Excalibur - I'm not fibbing/lying/telling porkies or anything mate...I am happy with my kit. It may not be to everyone's liking or up there with the best of them but at the end of the day...I am happy and that's what the OP was asking.


I'm happy with my rig, including my 10 year old amp, 15 year old scanners and very average lighting! :D

If it ain't broke, don't fix it, eh? :confused:

Fair play lads, I envy you, though I still think most of us are afflicted with the view that " If I only had that new Scanner/PA/ Amp/Mic/Deckstand/Whatever my rig would be perfect". And then once you've got it, it's something else that's needed. :( :bang: :bang: :bang:

JAMdisco
11-08-2009, 06:57 AM
Fair play lads, I envy you, though I still think most of us are afflicted with the view that " If I only had that new Scanner/PA/ Amp/Mic/Deckstand/Whatever my rig would be perfect". And then once you've got it, it's something else that's needed. :( :bang: :bang: :bang:

Spot on Peter! If I had them new subs, amp & crossover then I'd have my perfect rig... for a little while anyway :p ;) :D

rob1963
11-08-2009, 08:46 AM
If it ain't broke, don't fix it, eh? :confused:


Indeed...and that's a phrase not enough people understand.

I wonder if there are any OTHER industries where people are as dissatisfied with their tools as so many people in OUR industry seem to be?

:shrug:

PropellerHeadCase
11-08-2009, 10:04 AM
Porn actors?

rob1963
11-08-2009, 10:08 AM
:rofl: