cheesy DJing

[Cj_The_Dj]

Look at this guy and tell me what you think
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd3uVo9H29E


lets see how much you actually watch.

[DJWilson]

:lol: watched it all...


If you look at his gig logs etc he knows what he's doing.

[Cj_The_Dj]

I now his gigs look good.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Utterly pointless.

What exactly is he hoping to achieve?

And why have you even posted it?

[DJWilson]

Utterly pointless.

What exactly is he hoping to achieve?

And why have you even posted it?


Its just a laugh. (the video)


Duno why CJ posted tho lol.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Its just a laugh. (the video)




What's funny about it?

[Cj_The_Dj]

I just think it was funny. well how bad the mixing is and that.

[theoloyla]

Simon is a SEDA member and very experienced club and mobile dj. He tells me he did this for a friend as a laugh.

[Charlie Brown]

.....Looks like me behind my Ultimax stand :sofa:

[simonp]

Utterly pointless.

What exactly is he hoping to achieve?

And why have you even posted it?

Hi everyone - I am Simon, and that's my Video - It's simply to be taken in the spirit it was filmed - It is a little bit of self depreciating fun, which you will notice has been done for another youtube DJ (maxdiscos) - it was a response to a video he did as a cheesy music mix - My video is in fact not a mix (clearly), but a collection of the normal tired party tunes I was trying to liven up with a bit of fun - anyone remember fun!!!!!!!!
If you want to visit my you tube channel (www.toutube.com/pridders), you'll see I do a variety of things such as tutorials and gig logs, and yes some fun stuff as well - Oh, I even have a laugh & joke in my gig logs, sorry if that offends lol

[sted]

.....Looks like me behind my Ultimax stand :sofa:

fair enough.

whats the harm in posting this?

when other members have posted videos of things announced at asda foe example!

[simonp]

I just think it was funny. well how bad the mixing is and that.

It's called 'crash-mixing' not 'beat-matching/mixing' - it's what you tend to do with old tracks that have unpredictable and fluctuating drum patterns and beats, in a live situation when you're bouncing from track to track, entertaining and notice, not wearing headphones. When you grow up and become a Professional DJ, you may understand the subtle difference.

Cheers
Pridders
DJ Tutor

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Simon is a SEDA member and very experienced club and mobile dj. He tells me he did this for a friend as a laugh.

Fair enough.


Hi everyone - I am Simon, and that's my Video - It's simply to be taken in the spirit it was filmed - It is a little bit of self depreciating fun, which you will notice has been done for another youtube DJ (maxdiscos) - it was a response to a video he did as a cheesy music mix - My video is in fact not a mix (clearly), but a collection of the normal tired party tunes I was trying to liven up with a bit of fun - anyone remember fun!!!!!!!!
If you want to visit my you tube channel (www.toutube.com/pridders), you'll see I do a variety of things such as tutorials and gig logs, and yes some fun stuff as well - Oh, I even have a laugh & joke in my gig logs, sorry if that offends lol

It didn't offend, but goes no-where to raise the bar for our industry and I didn't know the circumstances hence my comments.


IWhen you grow up and become a Professional DJ, you may understand the subtle difference.


I find that incredibly patronising and unwelcome from someone who has just joined the site.

We try and teach best practise on this site to encourage youngsters, after all they are the future.

[Shakermaker Promotions]

Sorry but I found that cringeworthy.

[Cj_The_Dj]

It's called 'crash-mixing' not 'beat-matching/mixing' - it's what you tend to do with old tracks that have unpredictable and fluctuating drum patterns and beats, in a live situation when you're bouncing from track to track, entertaining and notice, not wearing headphones. When you grow up and become a Professional DJ, you may understand the subtle difference.

Cheers
Pridders
DJ Tutor

Dont you dare have a go at me. you've never seen me DJ. so how do you know if I'm a pro or not. i dont beat match or mixing anyways. im a Prue party DJ. i only put the video up as i found it funny. i did watch your gig log from last Saturday and it looked good. i didnt slag you off or anything.

also dont P.M me again like that.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Please send me the PM if you find it offensive CJ.

[rob1963]

in a live situation when you're bouncing from track to track, entertaining and notice, not wearing headphones.

Whoaaaa.....respect!

:cheers: :D :D :D

[Shakermaker Promotions]

If you post a video up then just like posting photos of your rigs up, you should be open to negative comments as well as positive ones. If you can't handle the negative comments then DON'T upload anything and put yourself in the position where you can be shot down.

I found the comments towards CJ really out of order to be honest but I wouldn't worry too much as I wouldn't take them seriously if they have come from someone who is known as a 'professional' who is prancing around like a Red Coat at Butlins infront of laptop.

[discodean]

prancing around like a Red Coat at Butlins infront of laptop.

sounds like me last weekend:sofa:

[Mark Wild]

Whoaaaa.....respect!

:cheers: :D :D :D

:lol:

[rob1963]

If you post a video up then just like posting photos of your rigs up, you should be open to negative comments as well as positive ones. If you can't handle the negative comments then DON'T upload anything and put yourself in the position where you can be shot down.


Very true, but in this case it seems the video was NOT posted by the person who made it, but by a third party (CJ).

That's why I refuse to post pics of my own rig...because I don't like it when I regret things!

[Shakermaker Promotions]

Rob, do us a favour mate...Come on, you know what I meant.
CJ may well have posted the video BUT BUT BUT...The guy who made the video uploaded it himself to whatever site in the first place. Whether it was for a laugh or not, I just think it's pointless and especially for someone who is supposedly a professional.

Do you think prancing around infront of a laptop looks or comes across as professional? I don't. I would have at least had the rig and lights etc in the video because in reality, it just looks like someone, anyone..messing about on their laptop PRETENDING to be a DJ.

[rob1963]

Do you think prancing around infront of a laptop looks or comes across as professional?

Of course not, but the guy did post to admit he only did it for a bit of a laugh.

However, I'd already guessed it was tongue in cheek before he posted.

:D

[Shakermaker Promotions]

I'm not having a go at the bloke, I don't know him. It could be anyone that has done it and I would say the same thing.

I know what will happen aswell. There will be comments of "Killjoy" or "No sense of humour" etc...and they will be wrong. I do 'Cheese' Nights myself and I go the whole hog when I do them by dressing up etc and I go under the name of 'DJ Stilton'. If I did a video then I would have the rig on view and would also be in the disguise of DJ Stilton.

[JAMdisco]

also dont P.M me again like that.


Please send me the PM if you find it offensive CJ.

Uh-oh, could this be the shortest registered member ever :p ;) :D

I also don't see the point of the video, only watched about 40 seconds then got bored. It doesn't do anything for our industry.

It's these kind of DJ's that are to blame for the DIY I-Pod wedding receptions!

Just my opinion but utterly worthless & pointless.

[rob1963]

I do 'Cheese' Nights myself and I go the whole hog when I do them by dressing up etc and I go under the name of 'DJ Stilton'. If I did a video then I would have the rig on view and would also be in the disguise of DJ Stilton.

I also do cheese nights.....






























.....under the name of Gordon Zola

:D :D :D

[OllieJames]

From memory, forum member 'MAXG' is maxsdiscos on youtube. Max created some 'cheese mixes' and Simon posted his video as a :Censored: take version back.

[DJWilson]

From memory, forum member 'MAXG' is maxsdiscos on youtube. Max created some 'cheese mixes' and Simon posted his video as a :Censored: take version back.


Correct.

[djsteve10]

I can see the video maybe a bit of fun for him and his followers but when the likes of us who don't know the guy then the video just makes him look like a complete and utter idiot and that he doesn't have a care about the industry.

I have had a look at some of his gig logs this afternoon and he seems more than capable of doing the job and all the gig logs he has on youtube have people dancing so he is doing something right.

I think that coming on the forum with that high and mighty attitude is going to cost him his membership on here.

Oh well you win some and you lose some!

[DeckstarDeluxe]

If you think thats bad you want to check out one Max did on how to set the volume dials on active speakers and then he brings out a picture on a a4 piece of paper. I was laughing so hard it was hurting.

[DJ Jules]

I dunno, I actually find it refreshing to see someone who doesn't take themselves too seriously all the time having a bit of fun.

It's a little disturbing to think that's probably what I look like at kids parties though! :D

It's also even more disturbing to think that I've seen DJ's playing a set like that (mixed like that) at a wedding!

Julian

[StarZSoundS]

If you post a video up then just like posting photos of your rigs up, you should be open to negative comments as well as positive ones. If you can't handle the negative comments then DON'T upload anything and put yourself in the position where you can be shot down.

I found the comments towards CJ really out of order to be honest but I wouldn't worry too much as I wouldn't take them seriously if they have come from someone who is known as a 'professional' who is prancing around like a Red Coat at Butlins infront of laptop.

Not sure why Redcoats deserve a slagging off.

I was one 25 years ago and it was the best 4 years of my life.I have never pranced around in front of a Laptop(Especailly not 25 years ago) nor have I seen one doing it on the recent documentraries.

Maybe chaps from building sites say to their mates....

You should have seen this DJ at the weekend....hiding behind his lights trying to act cool.(Sorry building site chaps....but it wasnt me that started stereotyping).

The Butlin Redcoats I remember were good souls....willing to work extremely long hours for a pittance.....because they liked to see other people have a good time.Twenty five years on I still have the same values...except I don't have to do it for a pittance no more.

[simonp]

Mmmm seems to have stirred up a hornets nest

Why my previous comments would 'cost me my membership' I'm slightly perplexed.

Sorry if I seemed to come across all high and mighty, but initially was (quite rightly) cheesed off that someone had re-posted my video, setting it up for a slating without 1) not having a clue as to the background behind it, and 2) in that very case; not having the decency to ask my via a Personal Message if it was ok to do so, as others have done, and I have mentioned this in a PM to them.
Yes the video is on YouTube and open for everyone to watch and comment on, and the 'Cathedral Cheddar' in the tile really should be a giveaway.

So people are taking themselves far too seriously though in respect to the 'responsible for i-pods at weddings'

It is not a DJ instructional or promotional video, it is clearly me prancing about in front of a laptop and omni controller having a laugh. It is a quick throw-away video, hence there are no lights set up etc etc (as has been suggested I do) - why set up lights to try and fool people into thinking I'm DJ'ing when I'm clearly not? I don't set up lights when I do the DMC monthly review, it's just me - not DJ'ing, just reviewing the DJOnly CD's - (endorsed by DMC before anyone asks).

If you don't like it, simple, don't watch it - someone said they were bored after 40 seconds (normally the missus) and that's fair enough - missed a good bit on 41 seconds though! If it's not peoples taste, its not peoples taste, the world would certainly be boring if we all liked the the same thing.

I welcome all comments on my videos, good, bad and constructive. But I do find it rather silly that people are implying on here that I'm casting the darkest cloud over the DJ profession and making all DJ's (mobile or otherwise) look like a bunch of clowns, because of the heinous crime of posting a heavy slice of cheese video, that was intended for viewers on my YouTube channel to have a laugh at.

I'm a full time professional DJ, who runs a professional company, and also trains & teaches other DJ's in all disciplines of our great profession. I'm sorry if my video posted on here (by someone else) causes genuine grievance and offence to some members.

For those who didn't find it offensive, please feel free to watch more of my videos www.youtube.com/pridders

[simonp]

Please send me the PM if you find it offensive CJ.

It wasn't!

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

not having the decency to ask my via a Personal Message if it was ok to do so, as others have done, and I have mentioned this in a PM to them.


So you put videos on You tube clearly in the public domain but expect others to ask you first before posting them elsewhere.

Did you ask all of the bands on the clip if you could 'borrow' their music?

When you say you train other DJs, do you run some kind of DJ school?

[Dynamic Entertainment]

TBH i quite like it. Theres too many "party" jock in my area who try to beat mix party tracks and 9 time out of 10 it falls flat on its face unless you can use the seamless loop correctly.

Crash-mixing is an artform in its own right because you need intricate knowledge of all the tracks your playing instead of just being to read an auto BPM :)

[simonp]

So you put videos on You tube clearly in the public domain but expect others to ask you first before posting them elsewhere.[QUOTE]

I wouldn't mind if it were a subscriber to my channel or 'friend of' - Yes they're on the public domain, but it's common courtesy to ask before you take, call it politeness if you will - other DJ's ask me if they can embed clips in their websites (although these or normally the instructional ones).

Did you ask all of the bands on the clip if you could 'borrow' their music?

**Musical Content Copyright Disclaimer ** ** FAIR USE ** Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational or personal use tips the balance in favour of fair use.

When you say you train other DJs, do you run some kind of DJ school?

Yes, would you like a lesson!

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Yes, would you like a lesson!

No thanks, not after watching your hilarious video.

For your information, there is not a fair use policy in this country. You have copied and pasted something from either the States or Canada.

And you call yourself DJ Tutor? Perhaps learning the copyright laws might help you teach others properly?

Would you like a lesson? :D

[simonp]

Would you like a lesson? :D

No thank you, I've better things to do.

You've obviously got a bee in your little bonnet - it says 'misery' under your name - not wrong is it.

Get a grip, get a life and let it lie man, life's too short - it's really not worth raising your blood pressure about.

Right, I packing to go to the V-festival for the weekend which promises to be great, I'll be doing a gig-log on it as well :D you're welcome to watch it sometime next week when its up in the public domain.

Hopefully by then, you'll have taken a chill pill along with a deep breath - or found something else to have a little rant & crusade about.

Have a nice weekend :p

[Penfold42]

I think you may need to chill a bit as from what i've seen from you so far is not very inspiring.
I find you a rude man who is about one step away from being banned.

We have seen people like you before that add no input into this forum.

Hope the weather is slightly cooling.

[StarZSoundS]

If you think this guy damages our reputation think back 6 months.


There was a guy on prime-time TV who attached your proffession to the front of his name and made us look worse than ridiculous...Now that did make me cringe!!

Any ideas.


Can anybody provide a link to the Peter Kaye Wedding Disco clip(its on UTUBE....not very good at these things)....

That is much funnier...its meant to be....and delivered by a true proffesional.

It may detract from a thread that could be getting ....."well its getting kinda warm in here!!"

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

No thank you, I've better things to do.

You've obviously got a bee in your little bonnet - it says 'misery' under your name - not wrong is it.

Get a grip, get a life and let it lie man, life's too short - it's really not worth raising your blood pressure about.

Right, I packing to go to the V-festival for the weekend which promises to be great, I'll be doing a gig-log on it as well :D you're welcome to watch it sometime next week when its up in the public domain.

Hopefully by then, you'll have taken a chill pill along with a deep breath - or found something else to have a little rant & crusade about.

Have a nice weekend :p

I'm quite chilled, thanks. I don't need to get a grip. I dislike rude and patronising people on this forum.

I find self indulgent people like you laughable.

I think perhaps you should stick to YouTube and your really interesting gig logs and instructional videos a I will stick to promoting best practise on the forum.

[simonp]

I find you a rude man who is about one step away from being banned.


for what exactly??????? - I think you'll find it's Mr Solitaire Entertaiments who won't let it lie my friend (and it's not even his argument!!!!!) - mine is the right to reply and defend oneself, after all wasn't it my video being discussed in the first place?

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

for what exactly??????? - I think you'll find it's Mr Solitaire Entertaiments who won't let it lie my friend (and it's not even his argument!!!!!) - mine is the right to reply and defend oneself, after all wasn't it my video being discussed in the first place?

This is true, but you are not helping the issue with stupid comments and being rude to and patronising my members.

That is what I object to.

[simonp]

This is true, but you are not helping the issue with stupid comments and being rude to and patronising my members.

That is what I object to.
Fair play - truce - apologies to you & your members

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Fair play - truce - apologies to you & your members

Fair enough and apologies for perhaps being a tad brusque.

Let's move on.

[StarZSoundS]

Peter Kaye.....anyone please??

[simonp]

Fair enough and apologies for perhaps being a tad brusque.

Let's move on.

Chin Chin - and now in all seriousness I AM getting grief from the better half for not getting my stuff ready for 'V' - have a great weekend one and all if you're gigging, and if you're not have a better one :)

[Penfold42]

Chin Chin - and now in all seriousness I AM getting grief from the better half for not getting my stuff ready for 'V' - have a great weekend one and all if you're gigging, and if you're not have a better one :)

...and to you to. :)

[PropellerHeadCase]

Actually the transition from '99 Red Balloons' to 'Walk Like an Egyptian' wasn't terrible.

[DJ Jules]

Actually the transition from '99 Red Balloons' to 'Walk Like an Egyptian' wasn't terrible.

All I know is I had "Walk like an Egyptian" stuck in my head all night last night.

Julian

[DJ James Lake]

I know the video was done for fun and I am not sure how much fun was meant in it and whether it was meant to be all wrong, but the "crash mixing" is totally wrong and should really be called a chop mix. The timings are completely out and should be chopped straight away after the chorus of one song into the next. I am not sure if it was intended to be done this way but it is a very good example of how not to do it.

[Dynamic Entertainment]

I know the video was done for fun and I am not sure how much fun was meant in it and whether it was meant to be all wrong, but the "crash mixing" is totally wrong and should really be called a chop mix. The timings are completely out and should be chopped straight away after the chorus of one song into the next. I am not sure if it was intended to be done this way but it is a very good example of how not to do it.

Sorry james I Disagree. Choping and crashing are completely different styles and choping still (usually) requires a similar BPM to sound right.

perfect example of crash mixing is the Grease Megamix into Sha Na Na's Born to hand jive. You keep them both at the same pitch, and if you kick in Sha Na Na at the last high on the megamix, you get it kicking in perfectly at the end of the megamix. Crash mixing does not have to chop in after the corus, and can often be coupled with a quick vocal reloop (i,e Outkasts Hey Ya, there he says Beyonce, seamless reloop 3 times the Beyonce then drop in Crazy In Love).

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

I used the term chop mixing for something similar seen in the video but using the cross fader and vinyl to go from record to record, playing about a minute of each. People in pubs used to love this, especially after a few drinks and they just get to hear the best part of the song.

[DJ James Lake]

Sorry james I Disagree. Choping and crashing are completely different styles and choping still (usually) requires a similar BPM to sound right.

perfect example of crash mixing is the Grease Megamix into Sha Na Na's Born to hand jive. You keep them both at the same pitch, and if you kick in Sha Na Na at the last high on the megamix, you get it kicking in perfectly at the end of the megamix. Crash mixing does not have to chop in after the corus, and can often be coupled with a quick vocal reloop (i,e Outkasts Hey Ya, there he says Beyonce, seamless reloop 3 times the Beyonce then drop in Crazy In Love).

Which wasn't what was been done in the video. He is definetely chop mixing and doing it very badly (maybe intended) the style in the video was a type of crash.....a train crash.

I agree with Darren chop mixing when done well will really get a crowd buzzing.

These days much easier than on vinyl when done using carefully placed cue points either on cd or a laptop playout system. My personal record was chop mixing over 80 records into a 30 minute set when on vinyl (kept my roady very busy putting them back in the sleeves).

I still use the technique during frantic party sets.

[WWDJ]

i've watched this before as I subscribe to Simons Youtube channel. I think he is hilarious. Naturally funny and it looks like his customers have a great time.

WELL DONE PRIDDERS!

[PropellerHeadCase]

Ahh, the glorious trainwreck

[BeerFunk]

In my opinion, Simon looks to have great potential to be a good 'personality' DJ, but obviously a live situation demands a bit more.


It's called 'crash-mixing' not 'beat-matching/mixing' - it's what you tend to do with old tracks that have unpredictable and fluctuating drum patterns and beats, in a live situation when you're bouncing from track to track, entertaining and notice, not wearing headphones.I don't get that, so you just pull one fader down and push the other up? Even if you're going to do that, you would do it quickly, to avoid a lengthy clash of beats. Most of the mixes here sounded terrible, and I'm sure you realise it, as the focus wasn't on the mixing for the purposes of the video.

And again, I reckon you also use headphones at a live gig, to maximise the effect of your mixing??


So people are taking themselves far too seriously though in respect to the 'responsible for i-pods at weddings'

It is not a DJ instructional or promotional video, it is clearly me prancing about in front of a laptop and omni controller having a laugh. It is a quick throw-away video, hence there are no lights set up etc etc (as has been suggested I do) - why set up lights to try and fool people into thinking I'm DJ'ing when I'm clearly not? I don't set up lights when I do the DMC monthly review, it's just me - not DJ'ing, just reviewing the DJOnly CD's - (endorsed by DMC before anyone asks).We had a recent thread here about brides avoiding booking DJs at their weddings, because they thought they could just as easily to the same job with an ipod. Your video doesn't make a great argument against this, and someone finding your video on Youtube might not realise it was meant as tongue in cheek.


TBH i quite like it. Theres too many "party" jock in my area who try to beat mix party tracks and 9 time out of 10 it falls flat on its face unless you can use the seamless loop correctly.You don't have to beat-mix, but you do have to keep the transitions short, and bring the new track in at the beginning of a bar, on the beat. Neither were done in this video.


Crash mixing does not have to chop in after the corus, and can often be coupled with a quick vocal reloop (i,e Outkasts Hey Ya, there he says Beyonce, seamless reloop 3 times the Beyonce then drop in Crazy In Love).You would change track in the middle of the bridge in 'Hey Ya'?! :eek:

[StarZSoundS]

5 years DJing and not once has anybody said to me...

OOHHH you mixed them two tracks lovely......

OOODDDLLLESS of you've made my Wedding/Birthday/Celebration.

I feel i'm not a DJ now....i'm just a music fascillitator.A sad old man crashing and chopping his way to certain disaster!!

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

5 years DJing and not once has anybody said to me...

OOHHH you mixed them two tracks lovely......



Ah, but in the same respect, has anyone ever said you are rubbish at mixing? People in general don't take that much notice, I agree.

However, I do think mixing a few tunes together makes for continuity on the dance floor and enhances the dancers experience.

Everything matters. ;)

:sofa:

[simonp]

In my opinion, Simon looks to have great potential to be a good 'personality' DJ, but obviously a live situation demands a bit more.


I don't get that, so you just pull one fader down and push the other up? Even if you're going to do that, you would do it quickly, to avoid a lengthy clash of beats. Most of the mixes here sounded terrible, and I'm sure you realise it, as the focus wasn't on the mixing for the purposes of the video.

Yeah it is basically one fader up and one down, you know how DJ Speak overcomplicates things at time lol - it is basically that, making sure the BPM.s are pretty much there, incoming tune cued correctly, choosing appropriate point to take the existing tune out - that's my personal take on it, but am sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong - but you're right, everything on there probably does sound terrible, and I think the fault firmly lies in my own court, as the title of the video is 'Mobile Disco DJ Cheesy Party Mix' and people are putting too much emphasise and importance on the on the word 'Mix' in the title. There is no Mix and I was not effectively DJ'ing, and yes you're right in the assumption that the focus wasn't on mixing for the purposes of the video


And again, I reckon you also use headphones at a live gig, to maximise the effect of your mixing??

Again, correct - when mixing properly live or making CD's I use Headphones, and have done since 1987 when I was first taught to mix (vinyl at the time). hey, I'm a real rebel, I even use my headphones to cue tracks up ;)


We had a recent thread here about brides avoiding booking DJs at their weddings, because they thought they could just as easily to the same job with an ipod. Your video doesn't make a great argument against this, and someone finding your video on Youtube might not realise it was meant as tongue in cheek.

That's a fair point that's been taken on board, but I would hope any self discerning perspective customer would not judge anything on the strength of one video, and would maybe watch a few more before emailing or calling. If they didn't realise it wasn't tongue in cheek, then in all honesty I'm not the DJ for their function, and they would obviously go for someone more suitable. However, I do accept the video may not make a great argument against the i-pod scenario.

Thanks for taking time to air your views :beer1:

[StarZSoundS]

Ah, but in the same respect, has anyone ever said you are rubbish at mixing? People in general don't take that much notice, I agree.

However, I do think mixing a few tunes together makes for continuity on the dance floor and enhances the dancers experience.

Everything matters. ;)

:sofa:

Thanks Solitaire I thought I was going bust then??

So when I have 80% of people dancing to The Mavericks and I'm lining up Reach (King of Cheese)i'm gonna run the danger of the dancers sitting down cos there not quite the same speed.

I use BPM and I always wonered what them numbers were that were going mad when I played a track...

Gonna have to stick to Tight Fit ...Back to the 60's.....till I pick it up!!

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

So when I have 80% of people dancing to The Mavericks and I'm lining up Reach (King of Cheese)i'm gonna run the danger of the dancers sitting down cos there not quite the same speed.



No, I didn't say that.


There are certain times during the evening where it will enhance the dancers experience and help keep them on the floor.

Be honest, is there never a time where there are people leaving and people arriving because of a change of tempo, genre or decade?

There are plenty of people out there who will say "I have never mixed in xx years and I'm still in business or no-one's ever commented" I've seen it quite a few times on this forum. But if you don't try these things you'll never know!

Billie Jean mixes quite nicely into Whitney - I wanna dance with somebody. Those are two tracks that I should imagine most of us play at some point.

[DJ James Lake]

Yeah it is basically one fader up and one down, you know how DJ Speak overcomplicates things at time lol - it is basically that, making sure the BPM.s are pretty much there, incoming tune cued correctly, choosing appropriate point to take the existing tune out

That was my point previously, in every mix you are missing the appropriate point to get rid of the previous song. If you chop it at the end of the last word of the chorus it will sound a million miles better (the end of the bar).

In every mix you are waiting 4 beats after the end of the chorus which is 4 beats into a bar not at the end of the bar like it should be. You should end at the end of a bar and start at the beginning of a new bar if you want it to flow nicely, bpms do not have to be matched just roughly the same.

You can use this effect too build a crowd up and up into a frenzy

[DJ James Lake]

Thanks Solitaire I thought I was going bust then??

So when I have 80% of people dancing to The Mavericks and I'm lining up Reach (King of Cheese)i'm gonna run the danger of the dancers sitting down cos there not quite the same speed.

I use BPM and I always wonered what them numbers were that were going mad when I played a track...

Gonna have to stick to Tight Fit ...Back to the 60's.....till I pick it up!!

They will if you try and beatmix them and make a real mess of it. Thats where chop mixing comes in.

[StarZSoundS]

No, I didn't say that.


There are certain times during the evening where it will enhance the dancers experience and help keep them on the floor.

Be honest, is there never a time where there are people leaving and people arriving because of a change of tempo, genre or decade?

There are plenty of people out there who will say "I have never mixed in xx years and I'm still in business or no-one's ever commented" I've seen it quite a few times on this forum. But if you don't try these things you'll never know!

Billie Jean mixes quite nicely into Whitney - I wanna dance with somebody. Those are two tracks that I should imagine most of us play at some point.

Play both of them... any more??


How about a new thread??


Songs that mix good....so StarZSounds can become a good DJ!!

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Play both of them... any more??


How about a new thread??


Songs that mix good....so StarZSounds can become a good DJ!!

Joking apart, there is a thread running somewhere on here with small groups of songs that mix well or have similar tempo.

[StarZSoundS]

Joking apart, there is a thread running somewhere on here with small groups of songs that mix well or have similar tempo.

Thank you.....i'll look for that.


Always willing to learn me....now who wants to learn Sidesaddle DJing....LOL.

[WWDJ]

Joking apart, there is a thread running somewhere on here with small groups of songs that mix well or have similar tempo.

.... and there are loads, but often there are so many requests and so much going on, that I tend to go for what I think is going to fill the floor rather than BPMs

Yes I mix Darude, Insomnia, N-Trance together because it's logical and keeps the dancefloor, but not for scientific reasons ;-)

I think this thread has been over analysed by the way ....
It's just Pridders having a good time ... it wasn't touted as a promotional video ... showcase or otherwise. I can't see that it is damaging the profession by promoting Ipod weddings. I would hazard a guess that most ipod weddings are done to save money (or because someone 'thinks' they can be the DJ), not to reduce the risk of playing cheese and a DJ jumping around enjoying himself. :) :) :) :)

... just my 2c.

[DJ Jules]

That was my point previously, in every mix you are missing the appropriate point to get rid of the previous song. If you chop it at the end of the last word of the chorus it will sound a million miles better (the end of the bar).

In every mix you are waiting 4 beats after the end of the chorus which is 4 beats into a bar not at the end of the bar like it should be. You should end at the end of a bar and start at the beginning of a new bar if you want it to flow nicely, bpms do not have to be matched just roughly the same.

You can use this effect too build a crowd up and up into a frenzy

I've seen this work really well, the DJ concerned also managed to mix songs with radically different BPM's by cutting the last track and scratching in the beginning of the next.

Julian

P.S. If it worked well... it wasn't me doing it :)

[sandysounds]

Had a giggle at the video......loved it and I for one would certainly book him....then had a bigger giggle at some of the comments.

The market place is big. I'm very active on a bridal forum. There are often discussions about the evening disco. Some say they want a really good DJ with outstanding mixing and no mic work......but there's a larger proportion of people that would prefer a personality (or cheesy) DJ that's going to get everyone going and having fun.

I was interviewed recently for a big wedding (along with 4 other local DJs). They came back to me and booked me. When i asked why they said the other DJs talked about their mixing, filling the dance floor etc and felt all they were going to do is stand and DJ seriously....they didn't want that. I'm getting a good fee for it too.

I know the video was done tongue in cheek and for a laugh......but i am quite happy to stand up and say I do that for real.....and get booked on the strength of it!

There is room here for different styles of DJing....... the key is making your potential client aware what type your are so that you are sure you are the right fit for their event.

[Tony Scott]

H......I'm very active on a bridal forum. There are often discussions about the evening disco. Some say they want a really good DJ with outstanding mixing and no mic work......but there's a larger proportion of people that would prefer a personality (or cheesy) DJ that's going to get everyone going and having fun....

....which forum is that sandy? :)

[DazzyD]

Uh-oh, could this be the shortest registered member ever :p ;) :D

I also don't see the point of the video, only watched about 40 seconds then got bored. It doesn't do anything for our industry.

It's these kind of DJ's that are to blame for the DIY I-Pod wedding receptions!

Just my opinion but utterly worthless & pointless.

Yes because the last thing our industry needs is some fun injected in to it. I'm doing a wedding tonight in a Catholic church hall and heaven forbid they might ask for a bit of fun during the evening! :eek:


Thanks Solitaire I thought I was going bust then??

So when I have 80% of people dancing to The Mavericks and I'm lining up Reach (King of Cheese)i'm gonna run the danger of the dancers sitting down cos there not quite the same speed.

I use BPM and I always wonered what them numbers were that were going mad when I played a track...

Gonna have to stick to Tight Fit ...Back to the 60's.....till I pick it up!!

BPM was always my system of choice (and I still use it on my XP machines sometimes) but now I find Traktor is better for mixing. But, then again, I am far from the worlds greatest mix-master using any type of mix!

[StarZSoundS]

......but i am quite happy to stand up and say I do that for real.....and get booked on the strength of it!



Wow....I spent the whole weekend feeling inferior.Kept waiting for a guest to tell me that Footloose was 132bpm whilst Relight My Fire was only 125bpm...and it spoilt their evening.

Deluged with bookings......I'm with Sandy!!

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Wow....I spent the whole weekend feeling inferior.Kept waiting for a guest to tell me that Footloose was 132bpm whilst Relight My Fire was only 125bpm...and it spoilt their evening.

Deluged with bookings......I'm with Sandy!!

Why do you feel that you must be one thing or another.

I am very interactive if needs be, but can also mix when the time is right.

Why be so blinkered? :confused:

[StarZSoundS]

Why do you feel that you must be one thing or another.

I am very interactive if needs be, but can also mix when the time is right.

Why be so blinkered? :confused:

51 Darren....and a bit too old to buy some boy racer decks.Maybe i'm jealous off all the others who can do it.

I'll stay in the Vets league with Chris Waddle if thats ok??

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

51 Darren....and a bit too old to buy some boy racer decks.Maybe i'm jealous off all the others who can do it.

I'll stay in the Vets league with Chris Waddle if thats ok??

I don't really see that age has anything to do with it.

An open mind helps, whatever age you are.

[Excalibur]

There is room here for different styles of DJing....... the key is making your potential client aware what type your are so that you are sure you are the right fit for their event.

Or plan B. Some of us like to think we're Chameleons. ;) I certainly try to be.


51 Darren....and a bit too old to buy some boy racer decks.Maybe i'm jealous off all the others who can do it.

I'll stay in the Vets league with Chris Waddle if thats ok??


I don't really see that age has anything to do with it.
"Absolutely" , he said, while fitting the go faster stripes to his zimmer frame. :o




An open mind helps, whatever age you are.
Helps? It's essential.

[DeckstarDeluxe]

I have to disargee with the fact you need to check with the client that they suit you but rather you provide a service to cater for their needs. I think I can speak for most of the experienced members on here like myself that can say if they turned up for a gig they could play many styles of music for four or five hours without any issues. Strings to the bow and all that!

[StarZSoundS]

I have to disargee with the fact you need to check with the client that they suit you but rather you provide a service to cater for their needs. I think I can speak for most of the experienced members on here like myself that can say if they turned up for a gig they could play many styles of music for four or five hours without any issues. Strings to the bow and all that!

There is some truth in that....however.....

Northern Soul....could do an hour then would have to start asking for some help!!

Tamla .....bucket loads of quality.....surprisingly few nailed on dance ones....


Charts.....obvious ones like Chris Brown Ne-yo....KOL....etc.....Ok with that....struggling after!!



Garage and Trance ....think i'd be offering it to the lads on the site with blue lights under their car!!