More Pioneer kit!

[Adam_F]

But what is it??

Thought I'd post this here, as it's doing the rounds on a few other forums, and a few of you here are gear heads :D

September 17th is when the big announcement is happening!

If you like Pioneer kit, your going to LOVE this new "thing"

YouTube - Dawn of a new species - DJsounds by Pioneer DJ

YouTube - Dawn of a new species # 2 - Armin van Buuren - Pioneer DJ

[Spirits High]

But what is it??

September 17th is when the big announcement is happening!

If you like Pioneer kit, your going to LOVE this new "thing"




How about a sneek preview on the 8th :D

I won't tell if you don't ;)

[welby]

Ya big tease! lol

[rob1963]

Thought I'd post this here, as it's doing the rounds on a few other forums, and a few of you here are gear heads

A FEW?

:rofl:

[Adam_F]

How about a sneek preview on the 8th :D

I won't tell if you don't ;)

:eek:

I'd be shot!

You'll have to wait until the 17th :p

[djsteve10]

Ooh I am excited.

[BeerFunk]

Well that was a waste of three minutes! Presumably it's some kind of digital decks, revolutionary as they will replace CDs and 'post-it notes'... are these videos three years old or something?

[Charlie Brown]

This looks really exciting!

[SC Events]

Awesome...........................I've just wasted 3mins 14secs of my life! :bang:

Seriously, whatever it is, it may be cool, but it will probably be off my affordibility scale :(

[rob1963]

whatever it is, it may be cool, but it will probably be off my affordibility scale :(

...and it probably won't live up to the hype either!

[Larry B Entertainment]

If you like Pioneer kit, your going to LOVE this new "thing"



I love Pioneer, just not the prices :o

[DJMaxG]

Adam, what is it mate?

Surely if you want to announce something, announce it :D


I love Pioneer, just not the prices :o

:approve: Couldn't agree better

[Penfold42]

...err...read post one. :p :D

As for spending money on gear.......you pay your money and you take your chance.

[Tom]

Presumably it's some kind of digital decks, revolutionary as they will replace CDs and 'post-it notes'...

That's what I think also.

So you create playlists on your laptop, and either upload them to the unit or have the laptop plugged in all the time for access to effects ect.

I dunno. We will have to wait and see what comes up but I think the price will be shocking. Bit like Denons new flagship mixer. Nice bit of kit but rather expensive.

[WWDJ]

I'll bet whatever it is, it isn't in 19" rack format ;-)

[thex-faders]

surely must be a pioner cdj deck with internal hard drive?
Would be pretty interesting and mega portable. no more laptop or burning cd's?
Definately interesting

[DeckstarDeluxe]

I dont really "feel" the hype truth be told because it could be a radio mic for all we know

Im sure it'll be at bpm though so be good to have a butchers at whatever it is

[rob1963]

I dont really "feel" the hype

Have you seen the Youtube videos?

If their title alone "Dawn of a new species" isn't hype, I don't know what is!


it could be a radio mic for all we know

Having watched the videos, I think it's safe to say the chances of that are 0%.

[OllieJames]

surely must be a pioner cdj deck with internal hard drive?
Would be pretty interesting and mega portable. no more laptop or burning cd's?
Definately interesting

:agree:

[Adam_F]

Surely if you want to announce something, announce it :D


Pioneer are announcing it, not me, I was just bringing it to peoples attention, as alot of guys on here, who do use professional kit, and new "products" to make their playout run more smoothly and efficiently may be of interest.



Bit like Denons new flagship mixer. Nice bit of kit but rather expensive.

To be fair, for what your actually getting on the Denon DNX 1700, it's fairly well priced.

It's still not a mixer you can jump straight on and wow the crowds with though, due to Denon's logical system of having multiple button presses for functions, and their poorly designed new effects section (the dual layer overlayable effects are great, just not the controls for controlling the paramenters).



Im sure it'll be at bpm though so be good to have a butchers at whatever it is

Yep, it will be!

[Penfold42]

Am I right in assuming you have this product or have been using it?

In which case if I do see it and you give a demo – are you hands going to be just a blur as they always more to fast for demo’s......

:D :D :D :D

[Adam_F]

Am I right in assuming you have this product or have been using it?

In which case if I do see it and you give a demo – are you hands going to be just a blur as they always more to fast for demo’s......

:D :D :D :D

Nope, not got one.... (yet)


As for demo's....... YES :D

Especially by BPM LoL

[Penfold42]

Nope, not got one.... (yet)


As for demo's....... YES :D

Especially by BPM LoL

Ah right :lol: I’ll get camera ready :D

If you don’t have one yet and it’s the dog’s dangly bits – can I have first shout on your MEP7000 if you sell it. :sj:

[Adam_F]

Ah right :lol: I’ll get camera ready :D

If you don’t have one yet and it’s the dog’s dangly bits – can I have first shout on your MEP7000 if you sell it. :sj:

I'd rather sell my gran, than the MEP 7000 :eek:

[DJMaxG]

It's still not a mixer you can jump straight on and wow the crowds with though, due to Denon's logical system of having multiple button presses for functions, and their poorly designed new effects section (the dual layer overlayable effects are great, just not the controls for controlling the paramenters).

So it's an effects unit :D

[Adam_F]

To be fair, for what your actually getting on the Denon DNX 1700, it's fairly well priced.

It's still not a mixer you can jump straight on and wow the crowds with though, due to Denon's logical system of having multiple button presses for functions, and their poorly designed new effects section (the dual layer overlayable effects are great, just not the controls for controlling the paramenters).




So it's an effects unit :D


Why did you decide to leave out the paragraph above which explained I was talking about the Denon DNX 1700S

All of the above is me talking about the poor layout controls of the Denon mixer.

[WWDJ]

In the promo videos it talks about preparing your 'mix' on your laptop at the airport, hotel, starbucks etc. So presumably we aren't just talking about a new deck here, it's more than that. The club has the decks, the DJ has the laptop. When the 2 get together the magic happens and the DJ can play his set but then chuck in other tunes via CD / Memory stick as required.

What all this entails I'm not sure. The DJ's choice of software is Ableton? in a lot of case which goes completely over my head, but it wouldn't surprise me if there was involvement from a well known 3rd party.

[Javlingames]

I heard a rumour that Serato and pioneer were going to hook up at some stage, this could be it??

[Alchemy]

"You can prepare your set at the airport or in your hotel room"

I'm sorry but I've been preparing my setlist in advance on Traktor for ages.

"If someone turns up with a USB key then you can play it"

Revolutionary? I think not :confused:

They'll be claiming you can send and receive e-mails and check the weather forecast next :D

Someone tell Pioneer that they've invented a laptop :D

[Adam_F]

I heard a rumour that Serato and pioneer were going to hook up at some stage, this could be it??

The CDJ 400, MEP 7000 & SEP C1 is already native with Serato.

[Mark Wild]

I dont really "feel" the hype truth be told because it could be a radio mic for all we know


:lol:

A beast of an all-in-one is what It will be :D

[Tom]

To be fair, for what your actually getting on the Denon DNX 1700, it's fairly well priced.

It's still not a mixer you can jump straight on and wow the crowds with though, due to Denon's logical system of having multiple button presses for functions, and their poorly designed new effects section (the dual layer overlayable effects are great, just not the controls for controlling the paramenters).



You do get a lot with the mixer. After watching many videos I would love to have a play. Maybe my comment will change about the price but as a mixer stands, I think it's quite expensive. :)

I don't even use the built in effects in my current mixer that much so I wont be rushing out to buy the new one and if I did, it would only be because of the looks. lol.


Ohh yeah, sorry to take this off topic.

[Tom]

Ohh yeah, got me thinking.


CDJ 1000 MK4? Seems to be a lot of people on the talking about this on the forums.

[DJMaxG]

New CDJ Deck

It appears that this information has been given out to ALL CDJ Owners

[Adam_F]

Video number 3...

YouTube - Dawn of a new species # 3 - Eddie Halliwell - Pioneer DJ

[DJMaxG]

something like a MEP version of the CDJ.

You can see it on the side of his laptop in the video

[Tom]

It could look something like this

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb129/tommyboy6996/slutkonceptmtt.jpg

[DJMaxG]

It could look something like this

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb129/tommyboy6996/slutkonceptmtt.jpg

Correction - It Will look like that :D:D:D

unless false product designs have been distributed.

[Adam_F]

It could look something like this

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb129/tommyboy6996/slutkonceptmtt.jpg

Luckily it doesn't.

A guy on a DJ forum made that image up as part of a school/uni project.

[Tom]

Correction - It Will look like that :D:D:D

unless false product designs have been distributed.


Luckily it doesn't.

A guy on a DJ forum made that image up as part of a school/uni project.


Haha.

It's not a bad picture to be honest. Interesting to see what this new "thing" could be. lol

[A1DL]

:cool:
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q276/jesuslovesacid/cdj1000mrk4.jpg

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Good to see it has a flux capacitor on it...

[rob1963]

Good to see it has a flux capacitor on it...

Is that what makes it go at 88 MPH?

:rofl:

[A1DL]

Good to see it has a flux capacitor on it...

and a "Shake It All About" button for those cheesy sets :)

[Adam_F]

Correction - It Will look like that :D:D:D

unless false product designs have been distributed.

Look at the image Max!!

Firstly, would a state of the art player like that use folder search?? Tags are used for a reason on things like the Denon players, CDJ 400 & MEP 7000

Direction switch, on the CDJ 1000 its for forward and reverse. On this image its forward and BOTH :confused:

Pitch bend buttons :confused: Your going to get more accurate with the jog dial.

From the original poster and image here http://www.pioneer.co.uk/uk/products/44/index.html you can clearly see it is not like the image above.

[Tom]

Look at the Hot Cues


A, B, C, C. lol

[DeckstarDeluxe]

interesting to see what price etc... as I know the cdj1000 have been creeping up again recently. 1100 per deck now!. I remember when I got my denons just over two years ago they were about 760 each

[DeckstarDeluxe]

this going to be at the HTFR meet Adam?

[rob1963]

Sorry to be negative, but reading through this thread something occurs to me...is there any relevance or point to it?

It's basically just people talking about something they know absolutely nothing about, so the whole thread is nothing more than guesswork about what this new Pioneer product might be...hardly the useful resource which I thought the forum was meant to be.

:shrug:

[Excalibur]

Sorry to be negative, but reading through this thread something occurs to me...is there any relevance or point to it?
It's basically just people talking about something they know absolutely nothing about, so the whole thread is nothing more than guesswork about what this new Pioneer product might be...hardly the useful resource which I thought the forum was meant to be.

:shrug:

Absolutely. Do people really still use CD's nowadays? :confused: :sofa:

[rob1963]

I can think of a few individuals who (quite rightly) get moaned at when they talk about stuff they know nothing about, and yet that's exactly what's been happening for the last 50 posts in THIS thread!

:shrug:

[Adam_F]

this going to be at the HTFR meet Adam?

It won't be I'm afraid.

This unit won't be out in the public domain until after the 17th, then I guess the only real chance people will have to look at it is BPM.

[BeerFunk]

Sorry to be negative, but reading through this thread something occurs to me...is there any relevance or point to it?

It's basically just people talking about something they know absolutely nothing about, so the whole thread is nothing more than guesswork about what this new Pioneer product might be...hardly the useful resource which I thought the forum was meant to be.

:shrug:You're right, Rob. This is exactly what Pioneer want, people speculating and 'hyping up' their product. The same sort of thing happens with a new games console, although the difference in this case is that we don't deal with toys - these are supposed to be tools for DJs to do their job with.

[Excalibur]

You're right, Rob. This is exactly what Pioneer want, people speculating and 'hyping up' their product. The same sort of thing happens with a new games console, although the difference in this case is that we don't deal with toys - these are supposed to be tools for DJs to do their job with.

Not toys? :confused: Who are you trying to kid? :p :D :D :D

[DeckstarDeluxe]

I can think of a few individuals who (quite rightly) get moaned at when they talk about stuff they know nothing about, and yet that's exactly what's been happening for the last 50 posts in THIS thread!

:shrug:

Could say then Rob why bother reading or posting anymore in this thread.

Personally I wasnt that interested because like I said it could of been anything but now we know what it is Im very interested. Some people here are retailers, some know retailers and so have heard snipets of informatio that havent been offically released.

[Dynamic Entertainment]

Could say then Rob why bother reading or posting anymore in this thread.

Personally I wasnt that interested because like I said it could of been anything but now we know what it is Im very interested. Some people here are retailers, some know retailers and so have heard snipets of informatio that havent been offically released.

Do we...i must have slept through the memo....

[rob1963]

You're right, Rob. This is exactly what Pioneer want, people speculating and 'hyping up' their product.

Indeed.

I wouldn't be surprised if they had people on the payroll with the job of mentioning it & posting the vids on as many forums as possible to add to the hype.


Could say then Rob why bother reading or posting anymore in this thread.

Indeed...and that also applies to everybody else, not just me.


Personally I wasnt that interested because like I said it could of been anything but now we know what it is Im very interested. Some people here are retailers, some know retailers and so have heard snipets of informatio that havent been offically released.


Do we...i must have slept through the memo....

Me too!

:shrug:

Please enlighten us, deckstar.

[Adam_F]

I wouldn't be surprised if they had people on the payroll with the job of mentioning it & posting the vids on as many forums as possible to add to the hype.


You'd be very wrong.

The same hype was created when the CDJ range launched, as it changed they way professional DJs worked. Much in the same way MIDI controllers changed the way laptop DJs worked.

If new technology makes our work easier as DJs/producers/remixers and live performers then I for one, am all for it, and some of the guys on here too will be able to see the full potential of what will be launched.

If your not caught up in new technology, then as you have said, there is no point in posting.
On this forum we have DJs who go from using turntables, iPods, laptops, MIDI controllers, DVS systems, media players, CDJs and DVJs, so interest in new kit is created. If there wasn't, there wouldn't be shows like BPM which lets you get hands on with all the latest offerings from manufactures World wide.

[rob1963]

The same hype was created when the CDJ range launched, as it changed they way professional DJs worked. Much in the same way MIDI controllers changed the way laptop DJs worked.

If new technology makes our work easier as DJs/producers/remixers and live performers then I for one, am all for it, and some of the guys on here too will be able to see the full potential of what will be launched.

If your not caught up in new technology, then as you have said, there is no point in posting.
On this forum we have DJs who go from using turntables, iPods, laptops, MIDI controllers, DVS systems, media players, CDJs and DVJs, so interest in new kit is created. If there wasn't, there wouldn't be shows like BPM which lets you get hands on with all the latest offerings from manufactures World wide.

I understand all that, Adam.

I think you're missing my point, which is that this thread has about 60 posts from people who are all talking about something they know absolutely nothing about!

The exception is yourself, who DOES know what the new product is...but is not allowed to talk about it!

Where's the logic that that?

Therefore, the whole thread is nothing more than people's guesses as to what the product might be, which is all pretty pointless really.

Surely it would have been better to avoid the hype and stick to the facts by posting a thread on the launch day with full details, spec & pics of whatever this new bit of kit it. That way, at least people would know what they were discussing & commenting on...which seems to make rather more sense!

:shrug:

[DJMaxG]

Sorry to be negative, but reading through this thread something occurs to me...is there any relevance or point to it?

It's basically just people talking about something they know absolutely nothing about, so the whole thread is nothing more than guesswork about what this new Pioneer product might be...hardly the useful resource which I thought the forum was meant to be.

:shrug:

That's exactly what I thought. All this information is available to the public anyway.



The same hype was created when the CDJ range launched, as it changed they way professional DJs worked. Much in the same way MIDI controllers changed the way laptop DJs worked.

and at one point, I thought I was the only person using table top, turns out quite a lot of DJs use them now :)

[DJMaxG]

Pioneer have daftly darkened the photo, but by adjusting the colour settings etc, I have uncovered a bit more.

The Screen appears to be a Denon style slant, and towards the right there seems to be a Denon style knob. :eek:

A1DL, Is your image supposed to be realistic?

[Dynamic Entertainment]

Rob..two words......viral marketing. :)

Its very cost effective and gets the product out there...even if there is no product as yet.

Are you telling me that on the launch date, you wont have a sneak to see what its all been about ;)

[WWDJ]

Therefore, the whole thread is nothing more than people's guesses as to what the product might be, which is all pretty pointless really.

Surely it would have been better to avoid the hype and stick to the facts by posting a thread on the launch day with full details, spec & pics of whatever this new bit of kit it. That way, at least people would know what they were discussing & commenting on...which seems to make rather more sense!

"yet that's exactly what's been happening for the last 50 posts in THIS thread!"


To add to the pointlessness of this thread ....
I've counted at least half a dozen posts moaning about how pointless this thread is. Isn't that as pointless as the pointless guesses? :bang:

I for one am excited about a new DJ product from Pioneer. No I don't know what it is, but from the hints I have a few ideas. Like anything from Pioneer this will be big bucks, but eventually the technology will filter down to lesser mortals like myself which I might be able to use as a mobile dj.

Cheer up everyone! This thread was meant to be exciting, and it's gone horribly wrong :(

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

I just wish that people who aren't interested would but out and leave this thread to the people who are.

Rob, you have 8 posts in this thread and it is about something you have no interest in!

[rob1963]

I just wish that people who aren't interested would but out and leave this thread to the people who are.


Aren't interested in WHAT?

That's the whole point...nobody knows if they're interested, because nobody knows what this thread is about!


Rob, you have 8 posts in this thread and it is about something you have no interest in!

How can you say this thread is about something I have no interest in it when I don't even know what the thread is about?

Like everybody else, I won't know whether I have any interest in it until it is launched!

:shrug:

[DJMaxG]

Aren't interested in WHAT?

That's the whole point...nobody knows if they're interested, because nobody knows what this thread is about!

How can you say this thread is about something I have no interest in it when I don't even know what the thread is about?

Well Said Rob :agree:

Pioneer obviously think their Top Dog by trying to keep it all secret.

It's a CD Player for goodness sake, not a new Aircraft. I don't see what the big deal is with all the wait.

[Adam_F]

Pioneer have daftly darkened the photo, but by adjusting the colour settings etc, I have uncovered a bit more.

The Screen appears to be a Denon style slant, and towards the right there seems to be a Denon style knob. :eek:


Max, you haven't lightened this image. Scratchworx did this, an everyones used Marks image on about 20 different forums!


denon style knob

You'll find the Pioneer MEP 7000 has this rotary knob.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Aren't interested in WHAT?

That's the whole point...nobody knows if they're interested, because nobody knows what this thread is about!


It's about new technology and it's from Pioneer, so I'd say that just about excludes you interest wise and price wise from what you've said before.

[Dynamic Entertainment]

Whatever it is i can see a sale of 2x CDJ1000 Mk2 on the horizon :D

[rob1963]

It's about new technology and it's from Pioneer, so I'd say that just about excludes you interest wise and price wise from what you've said before.

Two or three years ago I had no interest in going digital or spending any money on my disco. I then spent two grand going digital, so who knows?

When I know what it is & what it costs I'll be able to tell you how interested I am.

[sted]

so when is the release date?

[Dynamic Entertainment]

17th Sept :)

[Dynamic Entertainment]

Found this elsewhere. Based on the image that max "claimed" to have lightened and taking into account snippets of info from the clips.

Pure fiction (obviously) but looks quite cool IMO....anywhere near right Adam (morth a try, gotta try and catch you out somehow ;) )

[Adam_F]

Found this elsewhere. Based on the image that max "claimed" to have lightened and taking into account snippets of info from the clips.

Pure fiction (obviously) but looks quite cool IMO....anywhere near right Adam (morth a try, gotta try and catch you out somehow ;) )

:zip:

:D

Video 4 will be along soon!

[Dynamic Entertainment]

:zip:

:D

Video 4 will be along soon!

Well hurry up with it man :D - those Pioneer people dont half like dragging their heels :D

[Adam_F]

Well hurry up with it man :D - those Pioneer people dont half like dragging their heels :D

LoL

Well here's another pic floating around.

Perhaps this one is more suited to Rob? :D

[DeckstarDeluxe]

I hope we've all got deep pockets. Im guessing these are going to be around 3k a pair!

[Tom]

LoL

Well here's another pic floating around.

Perhaps this one is more suited to Rob? :D



Comes with a floppy drive.


Niceeeee. ;):D:beer1:

[Adam_F]

Comes with a floppy drive.


Niceeeee. ;):D:beer1:

Floppy? Far too advanced, that's an 8-track!

[Tom]

Floppy? Far too advanced, that's an 8-track!


If that's an 8 track then that Pioneer unit must be massive. lol

[rob1963]

Perhaps this one is more suited to Rob? :D

Looks pretty good to me!


I hope we've all got deep pockets. Im guessing these are going to be around 3k a pair!

I've already spent just under ten grand on my business since last year, so another three grand wouldn't make much difference.

:shrug:

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Ten grand? What did you buy?

[rob1963]

Ten grand? What did you buy?

A van, the stuff for my digital move and a few thousand songs to make my music library a bit more comprehensive.

[DJMaxG]

A van, the stuff for my digital move and a few thousand songs to make my music library a bit more comprehensive.

Great Stuff - What Van did you get in the end, and was it new or used?

[rob1963]

Great Stuff - What Van did you get in the end, and was it new or used?

A very clean 56 reg Transit Connect.

Not 3 years old until later this week & only 39k on the clock.

The best van I've had by a mile, and one which I'll keep for 7 years, so it will be my final van...as it will last well into my retirement.

[visualdjmax]

A van, the stuff for my digital move and a few thousand songs to make my music library a bit more comprehensive.

Bloody hell how much was the music. Did you pay for the bands to come over to yours and record it??????:D :D :D :D

[rob1963]

Bloody hell how much was the music.

Only a couple of grand.


Did you pay for the bands to come over to yours and record it??????:D :D :D :D

I think that would have cost slightly more to arrange!

[DJMaxG]

Funnily enough someone asked me yesterday how much it would cost to buy 40,000 odd songs on ITunes, and I said CDs are cheaper as you can pick them up to next to nothing from Tesco, some of the older albums we're talking £1, and £7 for '101 Hits' Sets - Where as ITunes will charge you 99p per track for the majority of them.

40,000 odd (and a bit more) ITunes Tracks - £3,000 +

and they're only 256kbps Files, so overpriced.

[Larry B Entertainment]

A very clean 56 reg Transit Connect.

Not 3 years old until later this week & only 39k on the clock.

The best van I've had by a mile, and one which I'll keep for 7 years, so it will be my final van...as it will last well into my retirement.

Rob, I have noticed you mention retirement quite a lot lately, what are you planning to do when you retire in 7 years ? I suppose after so many years of Djing you are looking forward to finishing.

[rob1963]

Rob, I have noticed you mention retirement quite a lot lately, what are you planning to do when you retire in 7 years ? I suppose after so many years of Djing you are looking forward to finishing.

Hi Rocket,

I'm not planning on retiring in 7 years, that's just how long I expect to keep the van for. I'm actually planning on retiring from discos when I'm 50 (in three and a half years). However, I'll probably go on doing quiz nights for a few years after that, as they're so easy...although I might cut back to just a couple a week.

Apart from that, I want to have lots of nice holidays (both at home & abroad) to make up for all the ones I've missed out on over the last 9 years! If I'm only doing one or two quiz nights a week, it will be easy to get them covered when I'm away.

:D

[BeerFunk]

Funnily enough someone asked me yesterday how much it would cost to buy 40,000 odd songs on ITunes, and I said CDs are cheaper as you can pick them up to next to nothing from Tesco, some of the older albums we're talking £1, and £7 for '101 Hits' Sets - Where as ITunes will charge you 99p per track for the majority of them.

40,000 odd (and a bit more) ITunes Tracks - £3,000 +

and they're only 256kbps Files, so overpriced.Yes, but a tune in the hand is worth two in the bush ;)

[Adam_F]

Dare I post video #4 :sofa:

YouTube - Dawn of a new species # 4 - Roger Sanchez - Pioneer DJ

:D

[huma]

Tried zooming in on the reflection of his glasses and i'll i got was two blue lights!

[Penfold42]

Is that David Gest in the video? :D

[rob1963]

Dare I post video #4 :sofa:

I really wish you hadn't.

By doing so, you're only adding to the hype. :bang:

I don't think you'd be doing that if there wasn't some kind of incentive (probably financial) for doing so.

:shrug:

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

I really wish you hadn't.

By doing so, you're only adding to the hype. :bang:

I don't think you'd be doing that if there wasn't some kind of incentive (probably financial) for doing so.

:shrug:

I seriously suggest you don't take part in this thread any more Rob.

[rob1963]

Fair enough.

[Adam_F]

I really wish you hadn't.
By doing so, you're only adding to the hype. :bang:


It's exciting times for DJs who use pro kit, produce or who DJ in clubs.

If this big launch was from Denon, Kool Sound, Kam or Numark, the same hype would be created.

Nearly every club you go into has CDJ 1000s. So when something that will replace these comes out, it is a big deal.



I don't think you'd be doing that if there wasn't some kind of incentive (probably financial) for doing so.


:bang:

I hope you've got evidence for your accusations Rob.

A couple of times I have already stated that I do not gain anything from this, from comments made by others.
So..... either you know more about my bank balance than I do, or your calling me a liar - Which is it?

[DJMaxG]

The Denon HS5500 currently has all the USB Reading, MIDI Controls, built in HDDs; and I bet Pioneer are building upon the same principal, or a MEP 7000 within a CDJ, which wouldn't be new technology.


Tried zooming in on the reflection of his glasses and i'll i got was two blue lights!

Yes, I thought about that myself, but the company aren't that loose.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

I hope you've got evidence for your accusations Rob.

A couple of times I have already stated that I do not gain anything from this, from comments made by others.
So..... either you know more about my bank balance than I do, or your calling me a liar - Which is it?

Take your time Rob :whistle:

And yes, I seriously suggest an answer would be in order here.

[BeerFunk]

As far as I'm concerned, this is more spam, and I can't understand why it's not in the chat section. If you have details or information, why don't you post them? If you can't post them for whatever reasons, why start a thread, which is basically 'I know a secret, but I'm not telling you!"

You can't be surprised that people suspect there is something in this for you - you've put a fair bit of effort into promoting this new product, and this is exactly the kind of thing reps do.

Don't get me wrong, I am interested, if this is indeed a revolutionary product. However, the HD players were also revolutionary, and at the very least bridged the gap between CD decks and whatever comes along next.

[rob1963]

I don't think you'd be doing that if there wasn't some kind of incentive (probably financial) for doing so.


I hope you've got evidence for your accusations Rob.

A couple of times I have already stated that I do not gain anything from this, from comments made by others.
So..... either you know more about my bank balance than I do, or your calling me a liar - Which is it?


Take your time Rob :whistle:

And yes, I seriously suggest an answer would be in order here.

Thanks Darren...I was waiting for the all clear to post here again to answer Adam.

Adam,

Just to clarify...I don't know more about your bank balance than you, I'm not calling you a liar and I'm not making accusations.

If you look again at my post which you quoted, you'll see I said "I don't think..." rather than "You've done this" or "You've done that" and so I'm sorry for any confusion.

[visualdjmax]

I really wish you hadn't.

By doing so, you're only adding to the hype. :bang:

I don't think you'd be doing that if there wasn't some kind of incentive (probably financial) for doing so.

:shrug:

Is the green eyed monster making an appearance?

[geoffrey]

I heard some of the worlds top DJ’s are already playing with this piece of kit in private.

I’m a little confused here as I heard the product was going to be called the CDJ 2,000 and not CDJ 1000 mrk4, anyway it doesn’t matter but I can’t wait to see its features and maybe when the sterling rates get better I may have to get myself a pair.

I give it to pioneer that they have only trusted the most trustable with their product as I can’t find anything other than the “get ready for this” videos and possible look alike pictures.

[DJMaxG]

I hope you've got evidence for your accusations Rob


So..... either you know more about my bank balance than I do, or your calling me a liar - Which is it?

I Believe Rob was emplying it would be an expensive product :beer1:

[A1DL]

I’m a little confused here as I heard the product was going to be called the CDJ 2,000 and not CDJ 1000 mrk4

Don't be confused. There's lots of photoshopped images doing the rounds on t'interweb, let's just say the accurate one has a deliberately poor "cut & paste" job done to the top of the image. ;) :quiet:

[Dynamic Entertainment]

Don't be confused. There's lots of photoshopped images doing the rounds on t'interweb, let's just say the accurate one has a deliberately poor "cut & paste" job done to the top of the image. ;) :quiet:

Supporting pictures please Tone :D

[DJWilson]

http://www.thedjbusiness.co.uk/images/pioneerteaser.jpg

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

And?

[huma]

http://www.thedjbusiness.co.uk/images/pioneerteaser.jpg

Looks like a dvj with the raised screen, I hope they're good after all the hype!

[visualdjmax]

Looks like a dvj with the raised screen, I hope they're good after all the hype!

Does anybody know a price yet?

[huma]

Does anybody know a price yet?

This won't answer your question but its going to be very expensive especially considering the recent pioneer price hike and if its the replacement for the 1000mk3 its going to be in the region of £1000 - £1300 i think.

[Adam_F]

Does anybody know a price yet?


No RRPs are set yet.

Only 8 days to go before it's unleashed though :banana:



This won't answer your question but its going to be very expensive especially considering the recent pioneer price hike and if its the replacement for the 1000mk3 its going to be in the region of £1000 - £1300 i think.


Your right, it doesn't :p

[visualdjmax]

Great. More toys! I am trying to save my hard earned pennies for a SVM!!! Do you think that they will have them at Plasa????????

[Adam_F]

Do you think that they will have them at Plasa????????


No, Pioneer don't do Plasa.

They'll be out at BPM

[Tom]

Did Pioneer do Plasa last year with a Funktion One setup?

[A1DL]

Did Pioneer do Plasa last year with a Funktion One setup?

My visit last year consisted of a very rushed hour in between other London appointments on the Tuesday afternoon and I only spent any time at Orbital & Trantec, however I imagine it would have been "the other way around" Tom, i.e. FK1 using Pioneer playback equipment on their stand or in their demo room.

[Adam_F]

Did Pioneer do Plasa last year with a Funktion One setup?

No

They had a Funktion One sound system at BPM last year.

2007 was the last time they were at Plasa when they launched the DJM 700.

[Tom]

My visit last year consisted of a very rushed hour in between other London appointments on the Tuesday afternoon and I only spent any time at Orbital & Trantec, however I imagine it would have been "the other way around" Tom, i.e. FK1 using Pioneer playback equipment on their stand or in their demo room.


No

They had a Funktion One sound system at BPM last year.

2007 was the last time they were at Plasa when they launched the DJM 700.


That explains things. lol. Cheers. :)

[Adam_F]

Just for Rob :D

YouTube - Dawn of a new species # 5 - Paul Woolford hints at what you can expect next from Pioneer.

[rob1963]

Just for Rob :D

YouTube - Dawn of a new species # 5 - Paul Woolford hints at what you can expect next from Pioneer. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvMwLyDA7iM)

Thanks Adam.

I reckon you'll be able to afford to retire by 17th!

6487

[Dynamic Entertainment]

Right then Woolford has basically just said that its a CDJ with hard drive....

[DJMaxG]

They had a Funktion One sound system at BPM last year

Was that in the Marquee Outside?

[DJMaxG]

He said his laptops aren't built for club stuff

There are loads of DJs using domestic laptops in Mobile and Club Situations, otherwise why doesn't he get a PCDJ 00DJ or reliable Mac Book etc?



It seems to be a MEP 7000 in a CDJ, with CD Drive and possibly a HDD, but probably USB Ports too.

If they did make this, then it is nothing new really as the Denon HS5500 already offers all this. (CD or hdd)

A Lot of DJs seem to be hooked on Software, and I don't think this will make them decide to ditch the laptop.

[Adam_F]

I reckon you'll be able to afford to retire by 17th!


:D

A joint retirement party perhaps?



Was that in the Marquee Outside?


No, on their actual stand.

[rob1963]

:D

A joint retirement party perhaps?


There's an idea...we can split the costs!

:D

[DeckstarDeluxe]

He said his laptops aren't built for club stuff

There are loads of DJs using domestic laptops in Mobile and Club Situations, otherwise why doesn't he get a PCDJ 00DJ or reliable Mac Book etc?



It seems to be a MEP 7000 in a CDJ, with CD Drive and possibly a HDD, but probably USB Ports too.

If they did make this, then it is nothing new really as the Denon HS5500 already offers all this. (CD or hdd)

A Lot of DJs seem to be hooked on Software, and I don't think this will make them decide to ditch the laptop.

So what your saying is that the mep7000 and the cdj dont have a cd drive currently?

[Adam_F]

A sneaky peak

[DJMaxG]

Have you got a pre-production model to test run, then?

[Adam_F]

Have you got a pre-production model to test run, then?

Nope.

The image has come from other sites.

[Dynamic Entertainment]

How about a sneak peak from ABOVE? :D

[DJMaxG]

Do you think that the product photos will be released before the deadline.

Also, what's going to happen on the said date, will it be available in shops, or is it date just for press release info?

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

I have to say, the closer the deadline gets, the less excited I am about this!

Anti climax anyone? :sj:

[DeckstarDeluxe]

its hardly directed at mobile use (well for us mainstream types anyways) in all fairness.

I am interested in this but Im thinking BPM the demo models will be contastly being used so may not even get a chance to play with it then :(

[BeerFunk]

I have to say, the closer the deadline gets, the less excited I am about this!

Anti climax anyone? :sj:Well I have been the most sceptical about all of this (I have made no attempt to hide this!), but I will be the first to eat my hat if it turns out to be anything special :o

[rob1963]

I have to say, the closer the deadline gets, the less excited I am about this!

Anti climax anyone? :sj:

:jawdrop:


Well I have been the most sceptical about all of this (I have made no attempt to hide this!)

What about myself?

I think your views & mine throughout this post have been vertually identical.

I'm REALLY looking forward to 17th...not so much because I want to know what this new item is, but mostly because I can't wait for the ridiculous hype, teasing & posting of one video after to finally stop.

For anyone who wants to know about this new product, the first 136 posts in this thread is the LAST place they should look. If ever there was a prize for the longest & most pointless thread...

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

If ever there was a prize for the longest & most pointless thread...

Then you would have posted on it...:sj:

Oh in fact you have anyway.

Musical word association or word association anyone?

[MagicMusic]

In fairness I don't think its the sort of product that most mainstream mobile jocks are going to have any interest in.

I would hazard a guess at it being a hard drive based CDJ with full midi functionality affording users tactile contol of programs such as Serato Itch and Traktor Pro.

Every piece of pro (club) dj orientated hardware which has been released in recent years has been inspired by Pioneer products. Many of the people I have spoken with just wish they could buy an original Pioneer quality midi controller rather than an expensive and not quite perfect, clone.

I certainly would love this sort of product but dread to think how much it might cost, especially since the Pioneer pro dj range has been slowly creeping back up in cost in recent months.

[Mark Wild]

Anti climax anyone? :sj:

For sure, especially as it will be an amalgamation of technologies already available thrown into one piece of kit with the Pioneer badge on it.

[rob1963]

Then you would have posted on it...:sj:

Oh in fact you have anyway.

Well...what's that saying...if you can't beat 'em...


Musical word association or word association anyone?

And funnily enough, I thought they'd be the first two threads to go under your new cull...so at least you'll never win any prizes for predictability!

:D

[A1DL]

Also, what's going to happen on the said date, will it be available in shops, or is it date just for press release info?

The 17th is the press release date only. I understand stock availability will be a couple of months later.

[BeerFunk]

I think your views & mine throughout this post have been vertually identical.Well that is true, but I would not rule out my purchasing one (whatever it is) - if it should indeed prove to be 'revolutionary'.


In fairness I don't think its the sort of product that most mainstream mobile jocks are going to have any interest in.

I would hazard a guess at it being a hard drive based CDJ with full midi functionality affording users tactile contol of programs such as Serato Itch and Traktor Pro.

Every piece of pro (club) dj orientated hardware which has been released in recent years has been inspired by Pioneer products. Many of the people I have spoken with just wish they could buy an original Pioneer quality midi controller rather than an expensive and not quite perfect, clone.How so? Pioneer were beaten to the punch with technology such as HD based controllers, the ability to play MP3 CDs, the ability to play two tracks from the same CD simultaneously. In fact, CD decks were on the market long before Pioneer had their first CD deck out.

Where Pioneer have made their mark is in the CD turntable market, and their brand marketing.


For sure, especially as it will be an amalgamation of technologies already available thrown into one piece of kit with the Pioneer badge on it.I think you could be exactly right there.

[DeckstarDeluxe]

:jawdrop:



What about myself?

I think your views & mine throughout this post have been vertually identical.

I'm REALLY looking forward to 17th...not so much because I want to know what this new item is, but mostly because I can't wait for the ridiculous hype, teasing & posting of one video after to finally stop.

For anyone who wants to know about this new product, the first 136 posts in this thread is the LAST place they should look. If ever there was a prize for the longest & most pointless thread...

Rob, seriously why are you still posting in this thread?

[rob1963]

I think your views & mine throughout this post have been virtually identical


Well that is true, but I would not rule out my purchasing one (whatever it is) - if it should indeed prove to be 'revolutionary'.

One of the most hyped DJ products?, definately...but revolutionary? I hardly think that putting existing technology into one unit qualifies.

I really hope Adam's going to BPM...just so I can get the REAL story behind this thread...because I know that's the only way I WILL get it!

:shrug:

[rob1963]

Rob, seriously why are you still posting in this thread?

If you look back a few posts, this might give you a clue as to the answer...


Well...what's that saying...if you can't beat 'em...


Why is ANYONE still posting in this thread?

Let's be honest...my posts are no more pointless than anyone elses.

[A1DL]

Where Pioneer have made their mark is in the CD turntable market, and their brand marketing.


Absolutely... putting them in the enviable position of being able to launch a new product which sound companies have no real option not to add to their inventory.

Irrespective of whether the product is any better than the nearest Denon equivalent, in fact how many people even know the model number of the flagship single players from Denon? Not many.

How many clients today spec a Denon whatever on their riders? Very few.

How many clients today spec CDJ1000 MkIIIs? Loads.

Are MKIIs an acceptable substitute for Mk IIIs today? That varies between "not really" and "definitely not"

It's not difficult to see where this is going in 3-6 months time. At the end of the day, the talent* calls the shots and us mortals must deliver the goods.








* note: word used very loosely in this context.

[Excalibur]

If you look back a few posts, this might give you a clue as to the answer...



Why is ANYONE still posting in this thread?

Let's be honest...my posts are no more pointless than anyone elses.
Well well, there's a first time for everything. :eek:

[rob1963]

Let's be honest...my posts are no more pointless than anyone elses.


Well well, there's a first time for everything. :eek:

I was referring to my posts in THIS thread.

Everyone already knows that all my OHTER posts are pointless!

:eek: :D :D

[MagicMusic]

Where Pioneer have made their mark is in the CD turntable market

That is what I was talking about, every piece of CLUB dj technology i.e turntable emulators such as the EKS OTUS are based on the cdj's.

If it turns out that the new product fills what is an obvious gap in this market then they will be the new industry standard.

To claim that an all - in - one hardware unit capable of harnessing all of the current technologies cd / dvd / hd / midi / timecode control is NOT revolutionary is, to me, petulance of the highest order.

It should be noted that there are people who crossover from club to mobile and this type of product (if that's what it is!) would be extremely attractive to them.

Frankly I find it laughable that some people are so dismisiive of the Pioneer range. It reeks of soor plooms as far as I'm concerned.

[visualdjmax]

One of the most hyped DJ products?, definately...but revolutionary? I hardly think that putting existing technology into one unit qualifies.

I really hope Adam's going to BPM...just so I can get the REAL story behind this thread...because I know that's the only way I WILL get it!

:shrug:

I don't see what the problem is Rob? Why are concerned so much about this thread? Adam started the thread to let everybody know about this new product now move on and embrace new products.

[rob1963]

I don't see what the problem is Rob?

Really?


Why are concerned so much about this thread?

I'm not concerned, more disappointed...because it's pointless.


Adam started the thread to let everybody know about this new product

I don't think so.

Enlighten me, then...just what has he told us about this new product?

:shrug:

[Mark Wild]

just what has he told us about this new product?

:shrug:


Sod all? lol

[Shaun]

Integrated HDD within the CDJ's? (amongst other things)?

If so, I hope all the 'big boy' DJs have got their produb sorted out. :ph34r:

[BeerFunk]

To claim that an all - in - one hardware unit capable of harnessing all of the current technologies cd / dvd / hd / midi / timecode control is NOT revolutionary is, to me, petulance of the highest order.It might be a first, but how is it increasing your scope as a DJ? Is it because it will save you space, because you can now have one unit, in place of two or three?

Well, two points there. Firstly, space is of little to no concern to a club DJ, as the DJ booth is designed around the equipment installed in it. Secondly, tabletop players are generally inefficient for a mobile DJ to use anyway, and this product is almost certainly not aimed at that market.

So, on that basis, an all-in-one unit doesn't hold as much value as you might think - and definitely isn't revolutionary.


It should be noted that there are people who crossover from club to mobile and this type of product (if that's what it is!) would be extremely attractive to them.It may, but let's be honest - it would essentially be a toy/gimmick (for want of a better word) for a mobile DJ. If you're running a business, and you are evaluating your equipment expenses and the benefits it would return - it would bring back a very negative return!


Frankly I find it laughable that some people are so dismisiive of the Pioneer range. It reeks of soor plooms as far as I'm concerned.On the other hand, some people are what is known as 'fanboys' ;)


Integrated HDD within the CDJ's? (amongst other things)?You wouldn't use the CD player function though anymore though, would you? Or if you did, it would be hardly ever, so you may aswell just have a CDJ sitting out of the way or something.


If so, I hope all the 'big boy' DJs have got their produb sorted out. :ph34r:In the clubs? Haha, there is no chance! :lol:

[MagicMusic]

Integrated HDD within the CDJ's? (amongst other things)?

If so, I hope all the 'big boy' DJs have got their produb sorted out. :ph34r:

The real 'big boys' mostly trade white labels and promo mixes with each other, they wouldn't need it. Also, unlike major recording artists they welcome the free promotion - a model which exists in the states just not here in Europe.

If your talking about the standard nightclub dj's then yes, I believe they should be hammered.

@Beerfunk i'm not disagreeing with what you say about the new product being gimmicky for mobile use but your dreaming if you think every dj booth is tailored for the modern dj's needs.

For example, have you ever tried to set up a stand alone midi controller, audio interface etc when there is five minutes of the last guys track left and you can't find any space on top of the existing cdj / 1210's / mixer set - up?

It aint easy or stress free.

IF and that's clearly a big if, the new product is capable of what i'm suggesting then it would become the new standard.

At a recent gig we lost support from a well known local dj / producer because we only had cdj 800's. He wouldn't play, full stop.

When we arrived I had to to the sound guy's foh job for him and two of us (me and the dj) were crammed into a booth which felt no bigger than your average phone box!

An all - in - one product would be fantastic for this type of situation and for people like me who would be able to use it in multiple applications.

There will never be a "one size fits all" solution its about what works for the individual. A product like this would work exceptionally well for for me and many others i'm sure, particularly those associated with electronic music.

I have browsed many mobile dj websites and a lot claim to offer the full "club experience", a product like the one i'm suggesting would surely appeal to those mobile dj's?

The inclusion of full midi control, the ability to assign full midi cc information accurately to software of choice combined with full playback functionality would, for me, be revolutionary.

As it stands there is no player out there that can do this which would even come close to matching the cdj's turntable emulation abilities.

[Adam_F]

I really hope Adam's going to BPM...just so I can get the REAL story behind this thread...because I know that's the only way I WILL get it!
:shrug:

I am indeed. I'm working for both days.



Adam started the thread to let everybody know about this new product now move on and embrace new products.


At least someone sees it for what it is!




Enlighten me, then...just what has he told us about this new product?

:shrug:

I haven't. I have not claimed I have. Pioneer are releasing previews of what is going to be the next big DJ player on the market. Full details won't be released until Thursday.

Why do you still believe there is some underlying reason as to why I've posted this? Your acting like someone that should be sitting in a padded room wearing a tin foil hat.

Within the last 6 weeks I've posted details on new products from Acme, ADJ & Denon. Why have you not accused me of posting them details for personal gain?
Just because Pioneer decide to make a big song & dance about this release, does not mean it has anything to do with me.

Apple do exactly the same for their latest releases. Perhaps if I'd posted the Apple teaser ads last week for the new iPod launch you would of been more interested, and not keep making underlying comments about me posting for different reasons.

There's a BIG new release from the guys at 00DJ coming out but should I post on it? Will you allow me to Rob, or will you accuse me of being on their payroll?

From now on, do you want me to clear it with you, if its OK for me to post on new DJ products? That way you can check what income & from where it is coming into my bank account, and you can then authorise or decline the post!


Posting on things that I'd gain from is against forum rules. I would of been banned by now, if any of the mods even thought I was getting paid to post this.
Darren is well aware of the situation, and knows full well I don't work for Pioneer, he came to the West Mids meet, held at my place of work, along with several others, and they'll all vouch it weren't Pioneers head office!

[rob1963]

Within the last 6 weeks I've posted details on new products from Acme, ADJ & Denon. Why have you not accused me of posting them details for personal gain?

Because there's a big difference between posting details on new products from Acme, ADJ & Denon and NOT posting details of the new product from Pioneer, but merely adding to the hype!


Just because Pioneer decide to make a big song & dance about this release, does not mean it has anything to do with me.


But it's not just Pioneer who are making a big song & dance about this release.

I'm not too sure why you're picking on me really, because at least one other person has stated the same views as myself in this thread.


There's a BIG new release from the guys at 00DJ coming out but should I post on it? Will you allow me to Rob, or will you accuse me of being on their payroll?

From now on, do you want me to clear it with you, if its OK for me to post on new DJ products? That way you can check what income & from where it is coming into my bank account, and you can then authorise or decline the post!

Posting on things that I'd gain from is against forum rules. I would of been banned by now, if any of the mods even thought I was getting paid to post this.

Darren is well aware of the situation, and knows full well I don't work for Pioneer, he came to the West Mids meet, held at my place of work, along with several others, and they'll all vouch it weren't Pioneers head office!

Adam,

You don't have to clear anything with me and can continue to post what you like. I in turn will continue to post my thoughts & opinions.

I just think this thread is strange. A few months back, when the anniversary of a certain licence was approaching, I started a thread to ask if anyone knew the details of the licence for the second year. My thread was swiftly closed, and the reason given was that the details weren't known yet & he didn't want the thread turning into a general discussion about the licence.

Unless I'm mistaken, the same applies to this thread. It's about something where the details aren't known yet, and yet the pointless discussion about what it might or might not be has been allowed to go on for over 150 posts...so I can't help but wonder why, especially as it was recently announced that a number of irrelevant threads & posts were to be removed in order to make the forum a more relevant & useful resource. Sorry if I'm being cynical, but it's just the way I am.

:shrug:

[A1DL]

Rob

I think you're missing the point. The new CDJ from Pioneer is hugely anticipated, long awaited and revolutionary within the pro audio industry.

If Acne release version 4 of their flowery disco twiddler or whatever, who gives a :Censored: ? There's no comparison.

Tony

[rob1963]

Rob

I think you're missing the point. The new CDJ from Pioneer is hugely anticipated, long awaited and revolutionary within the pro audio industry.

If Acne release version 4 of their flowery disco twiddler or whatever, who gives a :Censored: ? There's no comparison.

Tony

Tony,

For obvious reasons I won't be able to comment on your post until Thursday!

:shrug:

[visualdjmax]

Rob, I take it that you are busy in general? It's obvious that you are not interested. So just leave it. You will feel a lot better for it. I bet you were the same when Technics released the 1200's back in the early 80's. If there had of been forums then you would have probably commented then that you didn't see what all the fuss was about!!!

[rob1963]

Rob, I take it that you are busy in general? It's obvious that you are not interested. So just leave it.

With all due respect, I won't know whether I'm interested until Thursday, when I know what the product is & what it costs, so I'll tell you then.


I bet you were the same when Technics released the 1200's back in the early 80's.

As far as I recall, I wasn't.

I started mobiles in 1984, and it was probably a few years until I even HEARD of the 1200s or 1210s!

[A1DL]

With all due respect, I won't know whether I'm interested until Thursday, when I know what the product is & what it costs, so I'll tell you then.


out of interest, what CD decks do you currently use, Rob?

[rob1963]

out of interest, what CD decks do you currently use, Rob?

None.

I went digital with a D2 last Summer and have an iDJ2 as back up.

[DJWilson]

Rumour has it, its not the only thing pioneer are launching on Thursday.

[A1DL]

None.

I went digital with a D2 last Summer and have an iDJ2 as back up.

OK, I've just googled them to see what you're talking about.
Make sure you're sitting down when you read the Pioneer announcement, Rob - let's just say for a SINGLE player you'll be talking circa FIVE times the price of those Numark twin players.

[rob1963]

OK, I've just googled them to see what you're talking about.
Make sure you're sitting down when you read the Pioneer announcement, Rob - let's just say for a SINGLE player you'll be talking circa FIVE times the price of those Numark twin players.

I know they will be expensive, although maybe not as expensive as you think when compared to the 5 figure sum I've spent on my business since early last year.

[A1DL]

I know they will be expensive, although maybe not as expensive as you think when compared to the 5 figure sum I've spent on my business since early last year.


To be honest Rob, if you are only ever using the aforementioned Numark equipment yourself and it does everything you need, you don't have to fulfil riders, then spending 3-4k on new technology may not be a great idea, since it probably won't get you any more work and investing in it would tighten your cashflow and reduce your profit.

[rob1963]

To be honest Rob, if you are only ever using the aforementioned Numark equipment yourself and it does everything you need, you don't have to fulfil riders, then spending 3-4k on new technology may not be a great idea, since it probably won't get you any more work and investing in it would tighten your cashflow and reduce your profit.

You're probably correct there, and I'll know for certain on Thursday.

[Adam_F]

Because there's a big difference between posting details on new products from Acme, ADJ & Denon and NOT posting details of the new product from Pioneer, but merely adding to the hype!


Other companies simply launch a new product.
Every big DJ, gear head and club have been waiting for this release for about 2 years, and because of this, Pioneer are creating some hype, so what??



I'm not too sure why you're picking on me really, because at least one other person has stated the same views as myself in this thread.


I wouldn't say I'm picking on you Rob, and do apologise if you think that I am.
Your the only one accusing me of gaining financially from this post, which I am not.

Callum posted on another thread about the DJM 5000 about it, either in jest or not. Soon as I mentioned I haven't, and do get paid, he didn't mention it again, yet you constantly hint at it despite stating I DO NOT WORK FOR OR GET PAID BY PIONEER.



Rob
I think you're missing the point.
The new CDJ from Pioneer is hugely anticipated, long awaited and revolutionary within the pro audio industry.


Spot on Tony.

....and for those still interested.....

YouTube - Dawn of a new species # 6 - Laidback Luke hints at what you can expect next from Pioneer.

:D

[A1DL]

http://www.djtechtools.com/2009/09/14/the-dawn-of-a-new-pioneer-the-cdj-2000/

[DJMaxG]

Pioneer CDJ Deck

[DJWilson]

Pioneer CDJ Deck



:lol: Max.

[DeckstarDeluxe]

http://www.djtechtools.com/2009/09/14/the-dawn-of-a-new-pioneer-the-cdj-2000/


Even though its an educated guess the second photo looks nice

[Adam_F]

Even though its an educated guess the second photo looks nice

It hasn't got the water cooling in that pic though has it ;) (an thats from a insider) :D

[Shaun]

I really want the one with the flux capacitor. I've always wanted to mix a 2.21 gigawatts.

PIONEER...MAKE IT HAPPEN!! :ph34r:

[A1DL]

I really want the one with the flux capacitor. I've always wanted to mix a 2.21 gigawatts.

PIONEER...MAKE IT HAPPEN!! :ph34r:

Didn't Nigeltronic do something to similar spec (complete with wheels) ? :)

[Adam_F]

Didn't Nigeltronic do something to similar spec (complete with wheels) ? :)

:Laugh:

[rob1963]

I wouldn't say I'm picking on you Rob, and do apologise if you think that I am. Your the only one accusing me of gaining financially from this post, which I am not.

Callum posted on another thread about the DJM 5000 about it, either in jest or not. Soon as I mentioned I haven't, and do get paid, he didn't mention it again, yet you constantly hint at it despite stating I DO NOT WORK FOR OR GET PAID BY PIONEER.

I assume you missed the following post from Callum, as you didn't answer his questions. I've highlighted what I see as the important bits.


As far as I'm concerned, this is more spam, and I can't understand why it's not in the chat section. If you have details or information, why don't you post them? If you can't post them for whatever reasons, why start a thread, which is basically 'I know a secret, but I'm not telling you!"

You can't be surprised that people suspect there is something in this for you - you've put a fair bit of effort into promoting this new product, and this is exactly the kind of thing reps do.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Rob

Please stop posting in this thread now. I know you will not have any interest in this product, especially the pricing, so it's better off to stop now.

All you are doing is making unwarranted comments to Adam F and arguing with others. Now please stop.

[Adam_F]

I assume you missed the following post from Callum, as you didn't answer his questions. I've highlighted what I see as the important bits.

Sorry,

I did miss this.



If you have details or information, why don't you post them? If you can't post them for whatever reasons, why start a thread, which is basically 'I know a secret, but I'm not telling you!"


I can only post information thatis available to the general public. Legal documents have been signed.

Any other member of the forum could of come across this video and posted it, as happened with another forum that a few of the guys here frequent.



You can't be surprised that people suspect there is something in this for you - you've put a fair bit of effort into promoting this new product, and this is exactly the kind of thing reps do.


How much effort is it to post a video?
As I am interested in the industry and kit, I subscribe to a fair few Youtube channels. It pops up straight away when they launch a new video. Its hardly effort to post it here so others can see what it happening in the world of DJ'ing.




You'll all be glad to hear, the final video is here :D

YouTube - Dawn of a new species # 7 - Sebastian Ingrosso & Steve Angello

I won't be around to post on it tomorrow when official details are released, as I'll be at the launch party :banana:

[Mark Wild]

It's an Xponent split into two decks with a built in HDD !!! :p :D

[sted]

It's an Xponent split into two decks with a built in HDD !!! :p :D

maybe lol


after all this i cant wait to see it tomo just to see if it is as big as people are making out.

[Dynamic Entertainment]

Im looking forward to seeing what it is....but ive got a feeling that its not going to be much different than hooking up a DVS to a CDJ?

Adam...seen as your at the launch party, fance wearing a long jacket and nicking one for me? :D

What time is the big release, coz im guessing theres going to be nbothing tehre when i get up in the morning. :)