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Twinspin
27-09-2009, 04:10 PM
Ive been thinking about today and i reckon it might be a good time to change the business name.

Ok current business names are Twinspin & Hull Wedding Disco.

now the name Twinspin im definetely thinking of dropping and changing that to my own name (John Brown) of course.

On the other hand im thinking as well.... closing down the Hull wedding disco business. and incorporating both businesses into my own name. My domain name for twinspin is due to expire early next year.

would this be a good idea. Im thinking maybe so. Although it will cost money to rebrand. get new cards printed and that kind of thing.

any idea of any possible names?

Thanks

John

rob1963
27-09-2009, 04:19 PM
any idea of any possible names?


John Brown Entertainment.

Simple, and does what it says on the tin!

:D

Excalibur
27-09-2009, 04:45 PM
John Brown Entertainment.

Simple, and does what it says on the tin!

:D

I take it you've not seen the lad in action then Rob? :confused: :sofa:

Penfold42
27-09-2009, 04:45 PM
Pmsl....:d :d :d :d

rob1963
27-09-2009, 04:48 PM
I take it you've not seen the lad in action then Rob? :confused: :sofa:

:rofl:

Twinspin
27-09-2009, 04:50 PM
:Censored: :D :D :p :p

DJMaxG
27-09-2009, 04:56 PM
I am the sort of person who would keep changing the name, and it could potentially loose you customers, and confuse regular clients perhaps.

'The Voice' is bang on track :approve:

name, first name, and 'Entertainment'. That way at least they can't forget your name :p

Excalibur
27-09-2009, 04:57 PM
In case anyone didn't realise, I was jesting. I've been known to do that occasionally. ;)

John, Rob's theory holds water, it's just that the world and his wife now seem to be rebranding themselves " Iolanthe Farquaharson Entertainment" and the like. I think I prefer to be a Mobile Disco, but I'm not sure. :confused:


I am the sort of person who would keep changing the name, and it could potentially loose you customers, and confuse regular clients perhaps.

'The Voice' is bang on track :approve:

name, first name, and 'Entertainment'. That way at least they can't forget your name :p
Max, I've had two Disco names in thirty five years. Recently, I had a customer who'd used me many years ago, remembered Excalibur, googled it, and found me again.

Penfold42
27-09-2009, 04:59 PM
That way at least they can't forget your name :p

John Browns an impossible name to remember.....???
:D :D :D :D :D :D

Dynamic Entertainment
27-09-2009, 07:14 PM
John...how good uis the name Hull Wedding Disco for SEO?

JB Entertainments :D ?

DeckstarDeluxe
27-09-2009, 07:18 PM
Im kidda in the same boat and in the process of setting up a second buisness with a different name and seeing how that goes. If it picks up well I'll move the deckstardeluxe in a different direction (am thinking specialist 18th/21st events) and the other company purely for weddings

rob1963
27-09-2009, 10:40 PM
John, Rob's theory holds water, it's just that the world and his wife now seem to be rebranding themselves " Iolanthe Farquaharson Entertainment" and the like. I think I prefer to be a Mobile Disco, but I'm not sure. :confused:

The reason I always suggest the person's name followed by entertainment rather than discos is because they are then covered if they want to branch out into other areas in the future, such as quiz nights, karaoke, uplighting, equipment hire etc...rather than having to change their business name AGAIN.

I made that mistake, as I was previously called Rob James Discotheques, which was absolutely fine...until I started doing quiz nights!

xxx entertainment is futureproof, but xxx discos is not.

Excalibur
27-09-2009, 10:51 PM
The reason I always suggest the person's name followed by entertainment rather than discos is because they are then covered if they want to branch out into other areas in the future, such as quiz nights, karaoke, uplighting, equipment hire etc...rather than having to change their business name AGAIN.

I made that mistake, as I was previously called Rob James Discotheques, which was absolutely fine...until I started doing quiz nights!

xxx entertainment is futureproof, but xxx discos is not.

I understand your view Rob, but please stop blowing kisses, it's disconcerting. ;)

Dynamic Entertainment
27-09-2009, 10:51 PM
The reason I always suggest the person's name followed by entertainment rather than discos is because they are then covered if they want to branch out into other areas in the future, such as quiz nights, karaoke, uplighting, equipment hire etc...rather than having to change their business name AGAIN.

I made that mistake, as I was previously called Rob James Discotheques, which was absolutely fine...until I started doing quiz nights!

xxx entertainment is futureproof, but xxx discos is not.

Same predicament as i was in....

Dynamic Discos just didnt cut it with the Uplighting and DJ Agency (and odd quiz night).

Even now im still expanding; video projection, event photography, logo/name projection.

Still on the cards is karaoke (maybe), outdoor architectual uplighting, etc etc.

DeckstarDeluxe
27-09-2009, 10:53 PM
Same predicament as i was in....

Dynamic Discos just didnt cut it with the Uplighting and DJ Agency (and odd quiz night).

Even now im still expanding; video projection, event photography, logo/name projection.

Still on the cards is karaoke (maybe), outdoor architectual uplighting, etc etc.

I was thinking karaoke until i looked on ebay. Listings upon listings of karaoke hd's or dvd's with 20k tracks for twenty quid. If thats what your competing against its going to be hard to recoup costs let alone record a profit.

rob1963
27-09-2009, 11:00 PM
I understand your view Rob, but please stop blowing kisses, it's disconcerting. ;)

:Kiss 3:

DazzyD
28-09-2009, 01:09 PM
I was thinking karaoke until i looked on ebay. Listings upon listings of karaoke hd's or dvd's with 20k tracks for twenty quid. If thats what your competing against its going to be hard to recoup costs let alone record a profit.

I've been doing karaoke since the start and my collection goes back even further than that - in fact to the UK dawn of karaoke. The outlay runs in to tens of thousands of £££ and I know I'd never be able to make anywhere near that back if I was to sell it on.

Dynamic Entertainment
28-09-2009, 01:35 PM
I've been doing karaoke since the start and my collection goes back even further than that - in fact to the UK dawn of karaoke. The outlay runs in to tens of thousands of £££ and I know I'd never be able to make anywhere near that back if I was to sell it on.

Yep. Look at vinyl now. Ive about 15,000 records. Total value...diddly squat!

UltraBeat Entertainment
28-09-2009, 02:00 PM
I'd say a name change has done me wonders. and "Entertainment" maybe a common name but as said it does mean more than just disco's

rob1963
28-09-2009, 02:08 PM
I'd say a name change has done me wonders. and "Entertainment" maybe a common name but as said it does mean more than just disco's

That may be true, but I miss seeing the name "Spud" on the forum!

:cry:

UltraBeat Entertainment
28-09-2009, 02:18 PM
That may be true, but I miss seeing the name "Spud" on the forum!

:cry:

You'd be surprised how many people still calls be Spud when i'm out. It's kind of embarrassing:o

Twinspin
28-09-2009, 05:32 PM
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l264/Twinspindj/johncard.jpg

been messing about and come up with this?

what you think?

Solitaire Events Ltd
28-09-2009, 06:08 PM
It's a bit dark.

DeckstarDeluxe
28-09-2009, 06:11 PM
rather a graphic of people dancing if your going down that route and yes its very black!

The name needs to be solid white rather than outline so it stands out more

Twinspin
28-09-2009, 06:30 PM
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l264/Twinspindj/johncard2.jpg

Solitaire Events Ltd
28-09-2009, 06:42 PM
I meant the card overall is very dark. Lightening the piccy doesn't make much difference.

Steve the DJ
28-09-2009, 06:57 PM
been messing about and come up with this?

what you think?

Why did you choose www.johnbrowndj.co.uk instead of www.djjohnbrown.co.uk or even www.johnbrown.dj?

Twinspin
28-09-2009, 07:45 PM
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l264/Twinspindj/johncard3.jpg

good question that steve i might actually change it to that thanks.

I've been on the domain site i use and i can register www.djjohnbrown.co.uk www.djjohnbrown.com (both for £28.00) and same for both johnbrowndj.co.uk johnbrowndj.com




might change that. in the meantime ive had a go at a more colourful card.

ah the joys of Adobe Photoshop!

rob1963
28-09-2009, 10:56 PM
John,

Can I just ask your reason for the name change?

Is it because you're branching out into other areas?

If so, it might be best to lose dj from your domain name.

If that's not the reason, forget I spoke!

DeckstarDeluxe
28-09-2009, 10:58 PM
I dont know about other people but I think graphic buisness cards arent that effective as simple text that stands out and tells you right away what you do and how to contact you?

Twinspin
29-09-2009, 03:32 AM
John,

Can I just ask your reason for the name change?

Is it because you're branching out into other areas?

If so, it might be best to lose dj from your domain name.

If that's not the reason, forget I spoke!

Its not that im branching out into other things Rob. What i intend to do merge both businesses into one.

E.g. Originally i have the name Twinspin but under that name i just do normal functions. For the weddings my dj service is called Hull Wedding Disco.

The plan is to merge both businesses back into one business. But now i want to drop the name of both businesses and do everything under one business. So i thought it sounds a lot more professional using my own name rather than using the name twinspin.

Not all will be lost in terms of bookings because i will be diverting the twinspin mail to a new email address. Contact numbers will remain the same and im even thinking of putting Formerly Twinspin on business cards and adverts just as an indentifier who i previously traded as.

rob1963
29-09-2009, 07:57 AM
Ahhhh...I'm with you now.

Thanks for the clarification.

:)

DeckstarDeluxe
29-09-2009, 11:37 AM
Its not that im branching out into other things Rob. What i intend to do merge both businesses into one.

E.g. Originally i have the name Twinspin but under that name i just do normal functions. For the weddings my dj service is called Hull Wedding Disco.

The plan is to merge both businesses back into one business. But now i want to drop the name of both businesses and do everything under one business. So i thought it sounds a lot more professional using my own name rather than using the name twinspin.

Not all will be lost in terms of bookings because i will be diverting the twinspin mail to a new email address. Contact numbers will remain the same and im even thinking of putting Formerly Twinspin on business cards and adverts just as an indentifier who i previously traded as.

How coming your merging both back into one John?

Reason I ask is because Ive just brought a second domain name which will just be for wedding discos.

rob1963
29-09-2009, 12:56 PM
How coming your merging both back into one John?

I believe it's called streamlining.

Maybe he likes things to be simple, just like I do.

:D

ppentertainments
29-09-2009, 07:25 PM
How coming your merging both back into one John?

Reason I ask is because Ive just brought a second domain name which will just be for wedding discos.

snap !! and in the process of rebranding.
For me it is working very well. I now have a 'wedding disco' name and an 'entertainments' name with bookings going to the relevant section. Has done wonders for me so far, including becoming prefered choice at a very very nice hotel only 3 miles from home ;)

DeckstarDeluxe
29-09-2009, 07:27 PM
snap !! and in the process of rebranding.
For me it is working very well. I now have a 'wedding disco' name and an 'entertainments' name with bookings going to the relevant section. Has done wonders for me so far, including becoming prefered choice at a very very nice hotel only 3 miles from home ;)

Nice one however Ive not got that far down the line but good to hear the idea is a good un!

Twinspin
29-09-2009, 08:07 PM
The wedding disco i might keep then. At the moment its just a thought but i will be changing the twinspin name regardless.

JAMdisco
30-09-2009, 07:30 AM
John, I thought you said you were tight on cash and work at the moment.

Surely you'd be better off investing in advertising but understand if this is where you are going, a name change would eventually be cheaper (i.e. only advertising one business rather than 2)

back on topic, I think John Brown Entertainments (with or without the 's') works well. I've also thought about renaming but will stick with JAMdisco for the time being as it's primarily what I do, perhaps JAM entertainment - easy to remember.

rob1963
30-09-2009, 08:01 AM
back on topic, I think John Brown Entertainments (with or without the 's') works well.

Completely agree, because John Brown is a simple name that's easy to remember.

Definately without the s though, as there's no such word (I'll educate people about this if it's the last thing I do!)

:sofa: