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dmckaraoke
22-10-2009, 02:28 PM
Right guys about to purchase these for the use of hotel pa stuff etc...
http://www.trantec.co.uk/html/p_S53_Cube.htm
is there perhaps something better for £2000 or less....
4 Heads required and need to be able to rack them or come racked..
All help grateful...
David...
Dynamic Entertainment
22-10-2009, 02:56 PM
http://www.terralec.co.uk/radio_mics_uhf/4_channel_wireless_microphone/26266_p.html
http://www.terralec.co.uk/radio_mics_uhf/trantec_radio_mic_racks/23845_p.html
dmckaraoke
22-10-2009, 03:20 PM
The one i posted i have been offered it for £2000 and its the s5.3 which is more money than the 3.26 but way better construction...etc
Happy Jack
22-10-2009, 03:20 PM
I'll add my 2p, but would hope that someone like Tony could come in and offer his advice. A very grey area, and I don't profess to be some kind of expert. Not for the light-hearted!
The short of it is, is that the S5.3 operates between a frequency range of 854-865MHz, channels 69/70. With current proposals, it may mean that buying equipment intended for use within that band may represent a very bad investment indeed! By 2012, as I understand it, channel 69 will no longer be in use for wireless systems - channel 38 will be used instead - so certain equipment will be made redundant...
The Trantec S5.5, by comparison, has 35Mhz of bandwidth over several different bands that fall within several different channels, licensed and deregulated, and so will not be affected by the changeover as much. Of course, the price reflects this. Maybe get in touch with Trantec to discuss these concerns before you commit?
http://www.emslonline.co.uk/view-product/2301
Please also have a look at these links.
http://www.ibs.org.uk/public/lineuparchive/2008/118_Nov-Dec/03_PMSE_to_Lose_Channel_69.pdf
http://www.bectu.org.uk/news/194
http://www.blue-room.org.uk/index.php?showtopic=33683
Phew!
Hopefully Tony will pass through...
:beer1:
dmckaraoke
22-10-2009, 04:20 PM
I'll add my 2p, but would hope that someone like Tony could come in and offer his advice. A very grey area, and I don't profess to be some kind of expert. Not for the light-hearted!
The short of it is, is that the S5.3 operates between a frequency range of 854-865MHz, channels 69/70. With current proposals, it may mean that buying equipment intended for use within that band may represent a very bad investment indeed! By 2012, as I understand it, channel 69 will no longer be in use for wireless systems - channel 38 will be used instead - so certain equipment will be made redundant...
The Trantec S5.5, by comparison, has 35Mhz of bandwidth over several different bands that fall within several different channels, licensed and deregulated, and so will not be affected by the changeover as much. Of course, the price reflects this. Maybe get in touch with Trantec to discuss these concerns before you commit?
http://www.emslonline.co.uk/view-product/2301
Please also have a look at these links.
http://www.ibs.org.uk/public/lineuparchive/2008/118_Nov-Dec/03_PMSE_to_Lose_Channel_69.pdf
http://www.bectu.org.uk/news/194
http://www.blue-room.org.uk/index.php?showtopic=33683
Phew!
Hopefully Tony will pass through...
:beer1:
god i hope so...
Phoned the man at the shop and he says buy the licence and they will be converted free/or refund looks likely...White lies perhaps???
Happy Jack
22-10-2009, 04:46 PM
god i hope so...
Phoned the man at the shop and he says buy the licence and they will be converted free/or refund looks likely...White lies perhaps???
I'd be inclined to err on the side of caution. After all, it is a considerable amount of money! I would imagine, going with the likes of Trantec, Sennheiser, Shure et all, you will also benefit from the support of your local rep.
As I say, I'm no expert, but I'd expect to see the bigger brands offer this part refund or reimbursement, or modify the older units to operate within the new guidelines. I'm sure Tony will be along shortly, but you are clearly aware of the situation.
As an aside, on the purchasing front, I think I might be of some assistance. I'll send you a PM in a moment.
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Excalibur
22-10-2009, 06:36 PM
Licence wise, I have no idea. Tony explained it again recently, and I'm still baffled. :o :confused:
Quality wise, Trantec is a well respected name, and good kit. If you need 4heads, I don't think there's that much choice. Possibly two dual ones by other folk, perhaps JTS.
Phoned the man at the shop and he says buy the licence and they will be converted free/or refund looks likely...White lies perhaps???
Section 5.93 of the consultation document states the recommended eligibility criteria for funding PMSE users to support switchover from channel 69 to channel 38, which includes:
(1) equipment had to be purchased before the publication of the 800mhz consultation
(2) claimants had to have a channel 69 licence before the publication of the consultation
So, clearly no refund from Ofcom/JFMG
If only buying 4 channels, you could of course use them just in the deregulated channel 70 (863.1-864.9mhz) however if you'll need to use four channels concurrently, you may run into problems in proximity of other channel 70 users (eg: in adjacent ballrooms/buildings) and with what's around the corner, ch.70 can only get more crowded.
Jiggles
22-10-2009, 07:48 PM
What's their reason behind doing all this fiddling with the frequency's?
Okay so when I retune the Sennheiser to 844 to avoid bands who are running the same frequency as me I should have a license?
Who polices it?
What's their reason behind doing all this fiddling with the frequency's?
In simplest terms - money. The Government want to sell off chunks of spectrum to industries such as the cash rich mobile phone companies.
Okay so when I retune the Sennheiser to 844 to avoid bands who are running the same frequency as me I should have a license?
yes
Who polices it?
JFMG, on behalf of Ofcom
http://www.jfmg.co.uk/
Note that operating without a licence in regulated frequencies can lead to confiscation of equipment.
yes
JFMG, on behalf of Ofcom
http://www.jfmg.co.uk/
Note that operating without a licence in regulated frequencies can lead to confiscation of equipment.
Interesting. Will stay within the small range of frequencies in future then and get others to retune.
Jiggles
22-10-2009, 08:34 PM
In simplest terms - money. The Government want to sell off chunks of spectrum to industries such as the cash rich mobile phone companies.
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