As much help as possible would be very appreciated.

[Charlie Brown]

Right,

Schools through out the country are offering "Young Enterprise." This is where you are put into groups and make a "company." Each "company" is given a business adviser, HSBC bank account and a board room. I have been elected "Managing Director" so obviously I feel very important. ;)

I/we have decided that our company will be events management. I/we need to have a party planned for December.

Although I have done this before, we have competion, so I/we need to make ours stand out above the rest.

One idea I have (please slate it, if it's terrible)

£12.50 a ticket.
People are told to meet in Nottingham at 8.30pm where coaches will take them to a "secret location." The secret location will be my regular venue whom have agreed to host us. People arrive, I provide the disco, (hire out or beg people to donate for the night, club lighting and effects..as I have zero)

People are then taken home at 1.30 am.

After adding venue costs, transport, security, tickets etc we should hope to make £750 profit. This will be one of many events we hope to hold...most of the profits will go to a charity (our local intensive care unit, one of our boys was killed in a car crash)

What do you think? Too messy? Prices of tickets too high? Would anyone from the east Midlands be delightful and lend a few moving heads on a Wednesday night? :D

But please...Ideas and help will be great...even if it's a new one. I have a meeting tomorrow so would love to have some input from you wonderful lot :)

[DJ Jules]

Right,

Schools through out the country are offering "Young Enterprise." This is where you are put into groups and make a "company." Each "company" is given a business adviser, HSBC bank account and a board room. I have been elected "Managing Director" so obviously I feel very important. ;)

I/we have decided that our company will be events management. I/we need to have a party planned for December.

Although I have done this before, we have competion, so I/we need to make ours stand out above the rest.

One idea I have (please slate it, if it's terrible)

£12.50 a ticket.
People are told to meet in Nottingham at 8.30pm where coaches will take them to a "secret location." The secret location will be my regular venue whom have agreed to host us. People arrive, I provide the disco, (hire out or beg people to donate for the night, club lighting and effects..as I have zero)

People are then taken home at 1.30 am.

After adding venue costs, transport, security, tickets etc we should hope to make £750 profit. This will be one of many events we hope to hold...most of the profits will go to a charity (our local intensive care unit, one of our boys was killed in a car crash)

What do you think? Too messy? Prices of tickets too high? Would anyone from the east Midlands be delightful and lend a few moving heads on a Wednesday night? :D

But please...Ideas and help will be great...even if it's a new one. I have a meeting tomorrow so would love to have some input from you wonderful lot :)

That'd work - how many tickets would you need to sell to make £750? (give us an idea of your costs?)

Julian

[Danno13]

People are told to meet in Nottingham at 8.30pm where coaches will take them to a "secret location." The secret location will be my regular venue whom have agreed to host us. People arrive, I provide the disco, (hire out or beg people to donate for the night, club lighting and effects..as I have zero)

I hate to be negative, but surely if you're getting these things for free, it defeats the point somewhat? Anyone could make a decent profit from an event if they don't have the normal outgoings!

[Corabar Entertainment]

The first problem that I foresee is, if the night is a mystery, people may be less inclined to splash out for a ticket, since it could just be a trip to McDonalds for all they know.

You may need some sort of 'hook' to entice people - ie what makes your night different to another night?


I hate to be negative, but surely if you're getting these things for free, it defeats the point somewhat? Anyone could make a decent profit from an event if they don't have the normal outgoings!I agree, Dan, but in fairness to Charlie, we get god knows how many enquiries from these sort of things every year begging for us to give them a DJ for free, so they all seem to be doing it. Charlie just has a step up the ladder in that he has contacts!

[Charlie Brown]

Agreed.

I'm aiming to sell 175 tickets. (I would like to sell more BUT that's the venues limits)

People know they would be going to a party....the market for this particular party, would be everyone from my school. Sounds silly, but with me, they know what there getting. Another group is doing events too but I'm determined to win-One of the very few things I get passionate about. ;)

Costs (what I have set aside)

Coach £500
Security, tickets, effects, decorations any extra costs £500
The venue are doing me a favour of around £100/150ish.

Does that help? Would you not be excited....with your mates, bit tipsey, on a coach to a party, no idea where your going, arrive at a venue next to a river...room full of smoke, moving heads, lasers, strobes (I'm getting excited :D)

[Mark Wild]

I'd say "Let's put them on a bus and take them to a venue where Charlie is DJ'in" lacks creativity. No theme? What will make them want to part with thier £12.50? And I have to agree with Danno, begging for equipment hardly shows any entrepreneurial skills and surely defeats the object, come on Charlie you can do better than that.

[NKR]

OMG how old do I now feel.

I did young enterprise when I was at school in nineteen .........

Drop the coaches and reduce the ticket price to a £10.00 as it looks like a bargain. Coaches are asking for problems as people will miss them and try getting folk back on them at 1:30am. Plus if they need to get to and from the pick up and drop off point anyway they may as well sort them out themselves.

What you need to do is make it more worth while to go by having some decent prizes drawn as a raffle through the night to correspond with their ticket number. Get a 15" LCD tele £100 - DVD player £40 something else like Ipod nano or something.

They get a night out and a chance to win something for a £10.00. You will need hot pot supper on as well - cheap as hot pot supper.

Get 100 people and you get £1000. £200 on prizes. £300 on hot pot - £100 on other bits. Thats still £400 profit or a 40% margin and less hassle by a mile. Less to go wrong. Keep it simple.

Just an idea. P.S. Iwas typing this whilst Charlie was typing his!

[Charlie Brown]

Ok, ok, sorry for about the equipment - I might pop to my local shop as it is for the hospital.

I have to be realistic and although it's a lovely idea the target audience wouldn't respond to food and prizes - but will be great when we have a party for local business! :)

Our lot just want a drink, night out - as cheap as possible. The reason I thought a bus was a good idea because a taxi from town to the venue will set everyone back £40 per four people (return)

Another idea is we hire out a nightclub in town - I have done this before and it I find it can get very tideous. I want something different....

Last year I was going to get a theme company come down from London as I wanted a "winter wonderland" - but that was going to cost me best part of £3,500! I nearly fell of my chair ;)

I need something cheap, attractive, easy to work - and that's going to generate a lot of dosh.

Thanks for all your help so far guys :)

Keep em coming!

[DJWilson]

Does that help? Would you not be excited....with your mates, bit tipsey, on a coach to a party, no idea where your going, arrive at a venue next to a river...room full of smoke, moving heads, lasers, strobes (I'm getting excited :D)



So your saying people will be drinking at your party? surely they will mostly be underage...

[Corabar Entertainment]

Another group is doing events too but I'm determined to win-One of the very few things I get passionate about.But what is so special about this event that someone else won't be doing? Lets be honest here, you're doing nothing but a straight-forward disco. Where's the 'up-sell'?

[NKR]

Our lot just want a drink, night out - as cheap as possible.



School (even if sixth form which is up to 18) and drink at your regular venue. Licensing and losing sounds like a possibility????????

You organise a night with under age drinking you could be losing your profit in fines!

[Charlie Brown]

Yeah yeah I know all of that...

Drink WILL NOT be sold on the night.

But..again, you have to be realistic...do you think these kids are going to turn up stone cold sober?

[DJWilson]

Yeah yeah I know all of that...

Drink WILL NOT be sold on the night.

But..again, you have to be realistic...do you think these kids are going to turn up stone cold sober?


So when they arrive when not sober security will more then likely refuse entry....

[discomobiledj]

Will the coach company actually take under age drinkers who are tipsy/smashed on their coaches?

Agreed with others really, you're providing a disco in a venue, hardly wow factor and IMO not worth £12.50.

[NKR]

Yeah yeah I know all of that...

Drink WILL NOT be sold on the night.

But..again, you have to be realistic...do you think these kids are going to turn up stone cold sober?

If someone is under age intoxicated at your event in your venue and something happens the licensing authority, police and their parents aren't going to give a flying monkey where they drank it ... license is under threat and you are in deep doo doo sunshine.

[Charlie Brown]

Nope.

There is a line-if they cross it then obviously they will be asked to leave, but it's only ever happened a few times before.

I just need ideas...this is what I have organized in the past, but I feel it's "same old same old"

YouTube - Nottingham High Party-Notts County

YouTube - Party of the Year 2008
Skip to around 1 min on this video :)

[Ryu]

Firstly, Good luck with it all Charlie.

I would suggest approaching it from a purely business point of view. Write a business plan for the night (or for a years worth of nights), calculate a budget, Factor in EVERYTHING, then work out where you can get raise capital (or get stuff cheap, as you have already done so), Use market research to back up your plans (Don't assume that because your target market is your age group, you know what they want, rely on market research to answer that question for you) approach local businesses for sponsorship.

Just my thoughts, given the whole young enterprise bit, I'm sure this is old hat for you, but don't be afraid to think objectively...

[NKR]

I'm sorry but we appear to be discussing the running of an event that breaks the law as part of a school project.

[NKR]

Nope.

There is a line-if they cross it then obviously they will be asked to leave, but it's only ever happened a few times before.



On what their own special coach, or are you going to abandon a drunk youth £40 from home.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

I'm sorry but we appear to be discussing the running of an event that breaks the law as part of a school project.

Hang on a minute.

Where is the law being broken if they are not selling alcohol to under 18s?

If they turn up, falling over and very drunk, then they wouldn't be allowed in.

They might have been out for a meal beforehand, in which case they could drink wine or beer with it. A venue has no right to question if people have done this, only to refuse entry if the person is obviously inebriated.

If they are not selling alcohol as it is an under 18s party, then their licence won't be at risk.

[NKR]

Hang on a minute.

Where is the law being broken if they are not selling alcohol to under 18s?

If they turn up, falling over and very drunk, then they wouldn't be allowed in.

They might have been out for a meal beforehand, in which case they could drink wine or beer with it. A venue has no right to question if people have done this, only to refuse entry if the person is obviously inebriated.

If they are not selling alcohol as it is an under 18s party, then their licence won't be at risk.

Okay Darren the organiser knows they are coming preloaded - he as much as admitted it. You condone it on a technicality if you like, but I won't.

Has he told the venue they are coming preloaded.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Okay Darren the organiser knows they are coming preloaded - he as much as admitted it. You condone it on a technicality if you like, but I won't.

Has he told the venue they are coming preloaded.

Sorry, but rubbish. I am not condoning anything and there is nothing illegal about what is proposed. People can drink at home from 5 years old. Did you know that? They can also drink in a restaurant at 16 as long as they are still in the restaurant area and not at the bar.

You cannot possibly comment on what people may or may not have drunk beforehand.

I repeat there is nothing illegal about this and I suggest you get down off your high horse and think about it for a moment.

[Charlie Brown]

Has he told the venue they are coming preloaded.

Yes. They are fully aware of what to expect-I have become very friendly with them and they know the routine.

The security company I use are Nottingham's best charging around £400 for three men. I have devised a "bag search" that has proved effective in the past.

No bags, coats or hoodies will enter the venue, but will be stored in a room that is supervised by a guard. People will also be searched...it's the standard routine when we hire a night club out. The venues are fully aware of what to expect...remember there will be no bar open on the night.

[DeckstarDeluxe]

end of the day Charlie you know what your target audience wants because they are your mates but ask yourself this. What do you learn or gain from doing a knees up for your mates which Im guessing you do most weeks anyway?

[Charlie Brown]

What do you learn or gain from doing a knees up for your mates which Im guessing you do most weeks anyway?

Sorry, I don't understand.

[DeckstarDeluxe]

what is the point of this event? Is it just purely to raise funds or do you have to show what your learnt or what skills you have used to put on the event? we never had this at my school you see.

[Charlie Brown]

Erm, it's to show both your entrepreneurial skills at the end of the day. The school have arranged for us to have a "stall" at our busiest shopping centre for the weekend, where we can promote ourself.

We also plan to organise coach journeys to Skegness for OAP's and parties for local business etc.

[NKR]

what is the point of this event? Is it just purely to raise funds or do you have to show what your learnt or what skills you have used to put on the event? we never had this at my school you see.

The Young Enterprise is designed to demonstrate business acumen and get a team together working on ideas that will ultimately try and create a profit.
I can't remember the marking criteria it was a few years ago now, but there is no reason why organising an event wouldn't meet the criteria. Its just how the other members of the team would benefit in the marking as Charlie does this all the time, so not sure what anyone else actually adds.

[DJWilson]

Wheres the money coming from to hire the venue etc?

[DeckstarDeluxe]

Erm, it's to show both your entrepreneurial skills at the end of the day. The school have arranged for us to have a "stall" at our busiest shopping centre for the weekend, where we can promote ourself.

We also plan to organise coach journeys to Skegness for OAP's and parties for local business etc.


hmm ok Im going to throw one out there.....

What about a xmas ball of some sort. 12.50 a ticket for that amount of people is alot for "just a party" but for a posh do for your school might be an easier way of displaying your skills?

[NKR]

get down off your high horse

Its not a high horse, but I am not going to get into a discussion about the problems this country has with underage drinking and over consumption in general - the news does it just fine.

[DeckstarDeluxe]

The Young Enterprise is designed to demonstrate business acumen and get a team together working on ideas that will ultimately try and create a profit.
I can't remember the marking criteria it was a few years ago now, but there is no reason why organising an event wouldn't meet the criteria. Its just how the other members of the team would benefit in the marking as Charlie does this all the time, so not sure what anyone else actually adds.

well charlie has already said hes calling the shots so that wouldnt be a issue. Im sure Charlie is able to give different people different roles.

[Charlie Brown]

This was done two years ago. We hired the hilton hotel out for the night and tickets cost £20. The DJ was terrible and charge £400, the food was awful and the guests were promised a lot of "free goods" but the Houser of Fraser made a mess of it, so all in all..it was a terrible night.

People swore never to spend that much again...

[NKR]

hmm ok Im going to throw one out there.....

What about a xmas ball of some sort. 12.50 a ticket for that amount of people is alot for "just a party" but for a posh do for your school might be an easier way of displaying your skills?

It would be much more impressive if you could pull of a full Christmas familly event as the judges would see that you can market outside of your peer group.

Where I was going earlier before my horse hijacked me. ;) You lose loads of the costs in coaches and security, which appear to be your biggest costs.

Also the venue will love you for getting money over the bar to adults. Good private business move for Charlie too - double winner.

[Charlie Brown]

I know and understand your point...but that's a lot of work to do in a month..and where would you find these people?

[NKR]

I know and understand your point...but that's a lot of work to do in a month..and where would you find these people?

How about the 2 people that created the 175 you were going to get? Thats 3 times as many now and maybe they made more than one person.

Prizes - hot pot - mince pies - cheap as chips. Disco afterwards.

Lot of work to do in a month is what they are testing you on mate! Thats the point. Its no more than getting tickets sold and going to Tesco for a tele, DVD and Ipod Nano and ringing a hot pot caterer. Come on mate you are the MD. Get someone else to go to Tesco. You have the venue.

If you said thats too much hard work to me as a graduate in my industry you would be filing for a month at best, ask the last one that moaned one too many times about hard work.

P.S. Another free money idea if you go for this and take the familly route. Look up niche market garden sized suppliers of Candles, preserves and other christmas guff and offer them free table for a few hours at your Christmas event. Ask for a top slice of their profit for the benefit. If they sell nothing no loss if they do its using an already booked resource to potentially earn more cash whilst adding someonthing extra for the parents. It shows networking ability with the business community. The venue will have tables and linen so easy to do.

[Dynamic Entertainment]

Not my company, but a mate of mine - http://www.extremefxhire.co.uk/

Maybe able to find some useful ideas there.... ;)

[Booche]

Alot of good ideas being advised here, along the terms of the "students""underage drinkers" i would advise to pop a little T&C on a letter to state that any underage people whom seem to be unfit as of being under the influence of drugs or alcahol will be turned away at there cost, coz end of the day if i was doing this and a load of underage drunks turned up whether they are paid clients or not im sure it would bounce back at you as you are the organiser, now i know it may not be your fault for these but you will stick the hassle as you organised it etc, as for the xmas party etc with adults i think that is quite a good idea as i know alot of companys hold a xmas party ( dinner & dance for the older folks ) were children/underage arent that welcome,

Good luck with it all charlie and hope to see some pics/vids of that night

Cheers Dave

P.S. Have you thought about a themed night ( i know its nothing special but and idea )

[DJ INDIE]

like others say this is a test, theres no easy fix or we'd all be doing it.

some good pointers you may have missed already said and i'll expand:

1.take away the coach saves you £500 - thats a huge amount of money to save.

2. you cant drive someone to a secret venue and not allow them in!
a) they wont know where they are
b)they might not have funds to get home
c)i think they might want their money back!

3. get rid of security at £400


how?

1. the school are giving you a prime shopping spot to advertise - use it wisely. target families etc. not only do they have more money than youre average 15 year old, they will (usually) behave themselves, spend more money on raffles etc earning you more, and they can make their own way to any venue and make their own way home.

2. reduce venue costs to £0 by hiring or convincing a venue to let you have the room for free as there will be over 100 people spending money at the bar. i know plenty who do this.

3. use xmas as your selling point - anything festive will go down well.


personally, if you could organize the venue to allow children in too youll sell more as a lot of families fail to find anywhere to go at xmas with the kids and have to stay home or get a baby sitter.


there you go;

no coach (save £500)
no security (save £400)
no venue costs (save £100)

thats £1000 saved already.

and a prime shopping spot to sell your idea.

[discomobiledj]

like others say this is a test, theres no easy fix or we'd all be doing it.

some good pointers you may have missed already said and i'll expand:

1.take away the coach saves you £500 - thats a huge amount of money to save.

2. you cant drive someone to a secret venue and not allow them in!
a) they wont know where they are
b)they might not have funds to get home
c)i think they might want their money back!

3. get rid of security at £400


how?

1. the school are giving you a prime shopping spot to advertise - use it wisely. target families etc. not only do they have more money than youre average 15 year old, they will (usually) behave themselves, spend more money on raffles etc earning you more, and they can make their own way to any venue and make their own way home.

2. reduce venue costs to £0 by hiring or convincing a venue to let you have the room for free as there will be over 100 people spending money at the bar. i know plenty who do this.

3. use xmas as your selling point - anything festive will go down well.


personally, if you could organize the venue to allow children in too youll sell more as a lot of families fail to find anywhere to go at xmas with the kids and have to stay home or get a baby sitter.


there you go;

no coach (save £500)
no security (save £400)
no venue costs (save £100)

thats £1000 saved already.

and a prime shopping spot to sell your idea.

Maybe you should take over!

[NKR]

Maybe you should take over!

I do hope that was sarcasm :)

I think a lot of us can see the potential for a familly Christmas event which will earn Charlie much better scoring than getting his mates to a disco. It will take a lot of work in a month, but thats why there is a team and not just Charlie and as MD its his job to delegate tasks (as MD they will be looking for him to use his resources to greatest affect). YE usually has a team of 10 to 15 of them, so not short of boddies on the ground.

I think Charlie can pull it off if he takes some of the ideas off here and draws up a short event business plan and rebudgets. He will need to pull a list of tasks for his team together. Working in two's or small groups will help them keep each other motivated.

Good luck Charlie. I seem to recall he is up against another group who are doing an event too, so needs to ensure his has the widest appeal.

[tc1ooo]

What kind of venue is it, a hotel?

[DJWilson]

http://premierepartiesuk.com/ "Aloud to drink outside te venue" Surely venue managers etc will remove them off the property or call the police?

[JDB Entertainment]

http://premierepartiesuk.com/ "Aloud to drink outside te venue" Surely venue managers etc will remove them off the property or call the police?

Looks like Charlie has gone for his original idea.

[Booche]

:( i aggree JDB, surely thats advertising underage drinking

[A1DL]

Looks like Charlie has gone for his original idea.

I thought the original idea was Charlie was putting on his mobile disco?

This is advertised as something very different - a "rave" with "stunning laser lighting" and something about lots of bass heavy music - the event budget has clearly grown significantly and Charlie must have engaged the services of a professional production company. Big lasers and pro audio don't come cheap, particularly in December.

[Booche]

It does say imagine though so i wonder if there is going to be non of that lol

[DJ INDIE]

that event, if real, is crazy and irresponsible, and a million miles away from what the enterprise is about..

[Cowlinn]

What kind of venue is it, a hotel?

No point asking questions now, he's long gone!

[DJ Meadz]

gone with the wind that one

[NKR]

I believe I raised the concerns over underage drinking. It is a concern if he goes off and does something that looks bad on his school in front of HSBC.

Er just read that flyer. That is not a very good at all. Doing an underage disco and advertising you can drink outside the venue. High horse remounted!!!

[DJ INDIE]

I believe I raised the concerns over underage drinking. It is a concern if he goes off and does something that looks bad on his school in front of HSBC.

Er just read that flyer. That is not a very good at all. Doing an underage disco and advertising you can drink outside the venue. High horse remounted!!!

quite right too!

if it was him and his mates - no probs - we've all been there.


BUT he's inviting ANYONE to a venue, (so knows nothing about them) and wont tell anyone where it is AND if anything happens to anyone how do they explain where they are or get help.


as organiser of a professional event - this is heading straight for disaster.




The fact he feels he needs to hire security tells its own story.


how many other events on the scheme will hire securty for their event?

[A1DL]

The fact he feels he needs to hire security tells its own story.


how many other events on the scheme will hire securty for their event?

:confused:
any club/rave event worthy of it's salt will hire security.


disclaimer: I'm not suggesting this event is worthy of it's salt, as the alcohol related factors appear very wrong!

[Excalibur]

:confused:
any club/rave event worthy of it's salt will hire security.


disclaimer: I'm not suggesting this event is worthy of it's salt, as the alcohol related factors appear very wrong!

Agreed.

[discomobiledj]

Oh dear, it's all got a bit messy.....

[DJMaxG]

So your saying people will be drinking at your party? surely they will mostly be underage...

Trust You to mention a floor to the whole plan. :p


So when they arrive when not sober security will more then likely refuse entry....

Not if they have been hired by Charlie, as it's a Private party, and not their place to say no.


Will the coach company actually take under age drinkers who are tipsy/smashed on their coaches?

Generally, some won't


I'm sorry but we appear to be discussing the running of an event that breaks the law as part of a school project.

which is against forum rules, and this thread would not have lasted if that was the case.


Hang on a minute.

Where is the law being broken if they are not selling alcohol to under 18s?
(text shortened)

Absolutely Correct there :approve:

The Restauraunt laws are different to Pub Bars.


Maybe you should take over!
That just defeats everything :o

__________________________________________________ ____________

If it is a Charity Event, then couldn't the coach company, and venue etc offer their services for free, or extensive discounts?

[DJWilson]

Not if they have been hired by Charlie, as it's a Private party, and not their place to say no.



Why not? Its there job to keep the event under control and if they think someone's had to much they would if doing there job properly refuse entry.

[Mark Wild]

All doormen have to adhere to the rules of the S.I.A, not what Charlie says is O.K for crying out loud. Anyway isn't this thread somewhat redundant now anyway?

[discomobiledj]

All doormen have to adhere to the rules of the S.I.A, not what Charlie says is O.K for crying out loud. Anyway isn't this thread somewhat redundant now anyway?

Yep, Charlie has now gone and ignored what everyone has said, but, the forum will continue. He is young and foolish and beleives that he knows what he is doing.

Life goes on.

[soundtracker]

Trust You to mention a floor to the whole plan. :p




Always best to have a floor plan, so that you know where everything goes!:cool:

[rob1963]

Yep, Charlie has now gone and ignored what everyone has said, but, the forum will continue. He is young and foolish and beleives that he knows what he is doing.

With all due respect, I don't see how you can comment without knowing what happened.

:shrug:

[Corabar Entertainment]

Trust You to mention a floor to the whole plan. :p


Always best to have a floor plan, so that you know where everything goes!:cool:Hee hee.... yes - I had to read the original post 3 or 4 times before it dawned on me that Max meant 'flaw'! :eek:

[soundtracker]

With all due respect, I don't see how you can comment without knowing what happened.

:shrug:

Don't you love it when people say "with all due respect" when they mean the complete opposite

[discomobiledj]

With all due respect, I don't see how you can comment without knowing what happened.

:shrug:

Charlie has gone, for whatever reason.

He had asked about advise on his school project....everyone gave their opinion...most around the use of achohol....he has designed a site....and ignored what everyone has said.

As I said, the forum will continue and won't stop because someone has left...although I'm sure he will return!

[Babybob]

Yep, Charlie has now gone and ignored what everyone has said, but, the forum will continue. He is young and foolish and beleives that he knows what he is doing.
Life goes on.


That's a bit harsh considering what the young lad has achieved and the way he generally conducts himself.
I haven't the foggiest idea of what has happened but I could take a wild guess and be pretty close to the mark I think, I just hope he calms down soon and comes back to the forum where we can then treat him as a young man and let him make his occassional mistake.
I personally think we have showered him with so much praise (deservedly in most cases) that he has found it hard to accept the knocks that life throws at you.
Only my opinion......;)

[DJWilson]

I personally think we have showered him with so much praise (deservedly in most cases) that he has found it hard to accept the knocks that life throws at you.



Welcome to the real world.

[Babybob]

Welcome to the real world.

Is that comment aimed at me or Charlie......:confused:

[rob1963]

With all due respect, I don't see how you can comment without knowing what happened.


Don't you love it when people say "with all due respect" when they mean the complete opposite

For the record, I didn't mean the complete opposite...I was trying to be polite.

[DJWilson]

Is that comment aimed at me or Charlie......:confused:


Charlie, sorry should have made it clearer.

[Babybob]

No problem....;)

[Shaun]

Give Charlie a break. He's a nice kid and I'm sure he'll be back on the forum soon.

[soundtracker]

Give Charlie a break. He's a nice kid and I'm sure he'll be back on the forum soon.

Totally agree, I've closed one thread today to stop the vultures picking over the carcass, (despite accusations of other motives) keep on topic please.

[NKR]

Agreed

When I was his age I had the same propensity to press the self distruct button, so lets just wait for him to have a moment and then come back.

If he doesn't come back under his own steam then I would suggest one or two of you who know him well offer the hand to pull him back in. The lad might find it awkward to come back under his own steam if he feels he has done something in haste and may look foolish (he wouldn't look that way at all but he may feel he would)

I also believe his course of action with this event is unwise and could lead him into problems. However, anyone here never been guilty of dropping the ball? - I though not.

No doubt he can grow from the experience so may be as well to leave this thread alone now.

Again I am fairly new so apologies if I am speaking out of turn.

P.S. This was written at same time as soundtracker - hadn't seen his post.

[Charlie Brown]

Yep, Charlie has now gone and ignored what everyone has said, but, the forum will continue. He is young and foolish and beleives that he knows what he is doing.

Life goes on.

Looks like the fool is back - Having realised "life is too short" I have made up with Darren and ready to carry on.

I'm 16. I'm naive. I enjoy what I do.

There was no point in being dramatic and leaving in the first place. I appologise for all the fuss made - but I will just live and forget and hope you lot can too.

I will catch up on this thread tomorrow when I have watched Benidorm! :eek: :)

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Welcome back Charlie. I'm glad you made the right decision and came back and joined us.

For those nosey people out there, Charlie and I had a falling out that has now been sorted out and we both understand each other a lot better now.

He wasn't going to come back on, but I thought he and the forum had too much to lose by not doing so, so persuaded him to be the bigger man, which he has.

Both he and I would appreciate it if people kept their noses out of this as it is a private matter. Charlie has asked to stay as a member rather than a mod and is very welcome back.

[A1DL]

Welcome back, big man. Respect to you.:thumbs_up:

[rob1963]

Great to have you back, Charlie!

:thumbsup:

[Shaun]

Welcome back, Charlie. I missed ya.

[Booche]

Welcome Back mate good to see you made the right choice :)

Cheers Dave :)

[Booche]

Both he and I would appreciate it if people kept their noses out of this as it is a private matter. Charlie has asked to stay as a member rather than a mod and is very welcome back.

Sorry to sound out of place but to make sure this does stick ie: people keeping there noses out, wouldnt it be best to close/lock this forum ?

Sorry if that comes across wrong

Cheers Dave :)

P.S. Have alot of background when it comes to forum based things ;)

[andyw]

Looks like the fool is back - Having realised "life is too short" I have made up with Darren and ready to carry on.

I'm 16. I'm naive. I enjoy what I do.

There was no point in being dramatic and leaving in the first place. I appologise for all the fuss made - but I will just live and forget and hope you lot can too.

I will catch up on this thread tomorrow when I have watched Benidorm! :eek: :)
it is brilliant to see you back charlie,:)




For those nosey people out there, Charlie and I had a falling out that has now been sorted out and we both understand each other a lot better now.

Both he and I would appreciate it if people kept their noses out of this as it is a private matter. Charlie has asked to stay as a member rather than a mod and is very welcome back.

i apologise if anything i said caused offence, anyway glad everything is sorted out now.:)

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Sorry to sound out of place but to make sure this does stick ie: people keeping there noses out, wouldnt it be best to close/lock this forum ?

Sorry if that comes across wrong



Thanks for the PM Dave.

No, it didn't come across wrong at all and I understand your concerns. :)

I didn't close this as I thought it would be nice to welcome Charlie back.






i apologise if anything i said caused offence

No, you didn't. :)

[Charlie Brown]

I didn't close this as I thought it would be nice to welcome Charlie back.


Don't bloody close it!

I have some justifying to do tomorrow...when I'm fresh. ;)

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Don't bloody close it!

I have some justifying to do tomorrow...when I'm fresh. ;)

I don't think you need to justify anything. :)

[DeckstarDeluxe]

water under the bridge fellas, glad to have you back Charlie.

[Excalibur]

Great to see you back, Charlie. Right decision. :approve:

[NKR]

Hey Charlie good to see you back. I don't know you that well but big respect to you for being the big man and coming back on. Hope to chat sometime.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Jonathan Ford]

Perhaps a little off topic, but there are some kids from one of the local colleges doing a "Young Enterprise" thing in the bar/lounge area of my gym this week.

I was chatting to them yesterday afternoon, they're selling gift-wrapped toiletries, towel sets, smellies, bath robes etc., for Christmas and are making a killing.

[andyw]

:
for Christmas and are making a killing.

brings to mind a whole new meaning of a xmas hit:eek:

hopefully you were being off topic and not suggesting ways to sort out their difference :riceandrob: :sofa:

[Corabar Entertainment]

Welcome back Charlie... it shows a great maturity to sort out your differences and to come back to the forum as you have. Glad you did. :approve:

[JDB Entertainment]

Welcome back Charlie... it shows a great maturity to sort out your differences and to come back to the forum as you have. Glad you did. :approve:

Totally agree welcome back my friend.