e bay help

[CRAZY K]

Do any e bay experts know---

If im interested in buying an item at the starting bid ( no reserve ) price immediately and the item has nothing to say the seller can withdraw it from the auction at anytime---can they withdraw it and sell to me through ebay immediately for the agreed sum if I contact the seller to say I want to buy it quickly (and they agree) or otherwise I wont be buying it--I will buy new instead.

Just wondered before I contact the seller--I have seen the goods but they are not worth more than the starting bid so I dont want to waste time waiting for the auction to end.

Last auction bids did not get near the reserve and effectively the new reduced reserve price is stated to be the starting bid.

Down from £500 to £450.

I knew the reserve price which related to the old auction because I asked;)

Must admit at times I prefer the old Exchange and Mart method--have a good haggle --make an offer---agree the price---slap down the cash:D

thanks
CRAZY K

[andyw]

i am sure they can withdraw the item if they want to, but normally they wait to see if they can get more (even if they know it is not worth any more) worth a try

[CRAZY K]

i am sure they can withdraw the item if they want to, but normally they wait to see if they can get more (even if they know it is not worth any more) worth a try

Thanks Andy, last time the best bid was £380 against a reserve I was aware of being £500.

This time the effective reserve is £450.

Makes me wonder if its worth me bothering at £450 even---if the "market" only bids £380.

I get the impression theres a lot of people on ebay trying to pick up stuff at rock bottom prices to sell them on rather than using them for their personal/ business use.

CRAZY K

[DJ Jules]

Thanks Andy, last time the best bid was £380 against a reserve I was aware of being £500.

This time the effective reserve is £450.

Makes me wonder if its worth me bothering at £450 even---if the "market" only bids £380.

I get the impression theres a lot of people on ebay trying to pick up stuff at rock bottom prices to sell them on rather than using them for their personal/ business use.

CRAZY K

I'm trying to think now if I've bid on anything with a £500 reserve in the last few months... :D It wasn't a Numark DDS was it? :)

The seller can pull the auction any time up until the last 24hrs. In the last 24hrs, if there are bids on the item, they can't pull or amend the details. Personally I find "Buy it Now or Best Offer" works well on eBay as people can tell you what they think it's worth (though some people have some really funny ideas about "value"), or just buy it if they think it's worth what you're asking. It's a bit like the good ol' days of offering and haggling like you say.

P.S. I almost forgot to mention, in theory, contacting the seller to negotiate a price off eBay is against eBay rules, but in practice it happens all the time.

Julian

[NKR]

I have bought a load of stuff which was on ebay but never made reserve or did a deal in the background. Just e-mail the seller and see what they say.

[CRAZY K]

I'm trying to think now if I've bid on anything with a £500 reserve in the last few months... :D It wasn't a Numark DDS was it? :)

The seller can pull the auction any time up until the last 24hrs. In the last 24hrs, if there are bids on the item, they can't pull or amend the details. Personally I find "Buy it Now or Best Offer" works well on eBay as people can tell you what they think it's worth (though some people have some really funny ideas about "value"), or just buy it if they think it's worth what you're asking. It's a bit like the good ol' days of offering and haggling like you say.

P.S. I almost forgot to mention, in theory, contacting the seller to negotiate a price off eBay is against eBay rules, but in practice it happens all the time.

Julian

Yes the problem seems to be the seller thinks his equipment is worth at least £500 and the best bid was £380, as you say there are some unrealistic valuations out there---especially in this case where the guy appears to have paid nearly £800 new for an item which can now be bought new for £650:eek:

I wondered if the seller can rearrange a separate sale where I buy the item for an agreed price---im not looking to get round ebay rules.

Out of interest I bought my giant American Flag from errr America on a buy now basis and because I wanted Insurance cover he set up a revised sale with an increased price allowing for Insurance cost--slightly different as a buy now sale rather than an auction.

CRAZY K

[NKR]

Yes the problem seems to be the seller thinks his equipment is worth at least £500 and the best bid was £380, as you say there are some unrealistic valuations out there---especially in this case where the guy appears to have paid nearly £800 new for an item which can now be bought new for £650:eek:

I wondered if the seller can rearrange a separate sale where I buy the item for an agreed price---im not looking to get round ebay rules.

Out of interest I bought my giant American Flag from errr America on a buy now basis and because I wanted Insurance cover he set up a revised sale with an increased price allowing for Insurance cost--slightly different as a buy now sale rather than an auction.

CRAZY K

I have bought gear with reserves at below reserve. Simple e-mail if you don't sell it I will give you £x cash and pick it up. Call me if it doesn't sell and you are interested. You take yourself outside the ebay arena (probably against their rules, but they haven't banned me yet) so are at risk if the item is not as described, but has worked for me a good few times.

[andyw]

I have bought gear with reserves at below reserve. Simple e-mail if you don't sell it I will give you £x cash and pick it up. Call me if it doesn't sell and you are interested. You take yourself outside the ebay arena (probably against their rules, but they haven't banned me yet) so are at risk if the item is not as described, but has worked for me a good few times.

the problem is crazy wants it now not when the auction ends, as it only fetched 380 the first time round you might be in with a chance if you email him and say you will do a buy it now at £450, i don't know whether he can just add a buy it now to the auction or withdraw it and then reput the item up for sale with a buy it now price, but certainly worth enquiring about if you are willing to wait then i suggest following the auction and if no one bids make an offer around 425 with a couple of nights to go.
anyway good luck and let us know how you get on:)

[DJ Jules]

Yes the problem seems to be the seller thinks his equipment is worth at least £500 and the best bid was £380, as you say there are some unrealistic valuations out there---especially in this case where the guy appears to have paid nearly £800 new for an item which can now be bought new for £650:eek:

Yeah, there's your biggest problem - convincing the seller that it's worth less than he wants for it! The reason I thought it might be a DDS is because you can pick up the DDS80's at the moment for about the same money as a DDS by itself (£450 - reduced from £799!!) and lots of people who bought them at the original high price tags are trying to sell them now for about the £550 - £600 mark - crazy when you can now buy new for £450.


I wondered if the seller can rearrange a separate sale where I buy the item for an agreed price---im not looking to get round ebay rules.

If you can convince them to go for it, they can change the auction format to "Buy It Now" for the agreed price, but you then have to jump in quick and press the button before someone else does ;)

Julian

[CRAZY K]

Yeah, there's your biggest problem - convincing the seller that it's worth less than he wants for it! The reason I thought it might be a DDS is because you can pick up the DDS80's at the moment for about the same money as a DDS by itself (£450 - reduced from £799!!) and lots of people who bought them at the original high price tags are trying to sell them now for about the £550 - £600 mark - crazy when you can now buy new for £450.



If you can convince them to go for it, they can change the auction format to "Buy It Now" for the agreed price, but you then have to jump in quick and press the button before someone else does ;)

Julian

Thanks for that--- highlights my problem exactly.

However having spoken to the Manufacturer (Peavey) this morning it appears the claim by the seller that he has all the original guarantees which I can have is actually worthless because the warranty is not transferable:eek:

In addition the secondhand amp I was looking at--- XR696F now discontiinued was probably a later model made in China im told.

If im going to buy a Chinese made product ( which the new ones are) I definitely want a 5 year warranty so thats the end of that transaction unless I get it at a sizeable discount which I wont because the seller thinks its brand new, worth a lot of money etc etc

To make the point on prices---the replacement model for the XR696F powered mixer is £470 brand new--the seller is asking minimum £300 with no warranty---no contest in my book as any repairs could well exceed £170.:eek:

Many thanks Julian for the info ( and others )

CRAZY K