Query regarding weight

[DJMaxG]

for those of you that run active subs, how do you manage to get them up stairs etc, are they liftable, or is it a bit of a tricky situation?

and the same for raised stages?

[soundtracker]

Why you planning on installing some in your bedroom?

[rob1963]

:rofl:

[nisfo]

I never lift my passive subs on my own due to their bulkiness, the gig wont be much fun with a strained back!!!
When I use my roadie, he understands that how I tell him to lift is how he should do it, cos if I do myself in.........He's on his todd....lol

[A1DL]

Maxwell, I assume you mean powered bins. If you look at the weights of most of the popular powered cabs that get mentioned on here, they're not dissimilar to a decent pair of unpowered cabs, and certainly weigh less than a rack with a couple of reasonable class A/B amps and an LMS within,

[DJMaxG]

Maxwell, I assume you mean powered bins. If you look at the weights of most of the popular powered cabs that get mentioned on here, they're not dissimilar to a decent pair of unpowered cabs, and certainly weigh less than a rack with a couple of reasonable class A/B amps and an LMS within,

ah right, I just assumed they'd be heavy.

[Happy Jack]

Jedi mind trick on the 218's, usually. Or we hire a crane and go in through the roof.

[Alchemy]

My DB Technologies Sub 05 weighs in at 27kg. I can lift and carry it from the back of my car a fair distance (back straight of course) but stairs are a problem. Its like carrying a heavy chest of drawers up stairs, two people and lots of grunting. I suppose you could strap it to a stairclimber but I've never tried.

[Vectis]

dBTech Opera 15 user here ... and one of the selection criteria was weight.

Whilst we usually carry these 2-man lift, they are liftable over short distances by one person. We also have one of those wheeled dolly trolleys for longer trips, and very rarely take them upstairs anywhere. Most of the venues locally that have upstairs function rooms tend to be on the small side, so full-range does the trick.

[NKR]

If its over ground floor and no lift then no subs. You try lugging an SWA1801.
It has castors on because its chuffin heavy - 60kg to be exact.

[jamesh]

for those of you that run active subs, how do you manage to get them up stairs etc, are they liftable, or is it a bit of a tricky situation?

and the same for raised stages?

Build up the old muscles and carry them! Same with the stage blocks... Although the main issues with those is more the size and getting a good grip on them as they are 2m x 1m but it's possible to do by yourself.

Having said that it's always better to lift heavy or bulky objects with 2 people rather than one if you can... ;)

[discomobiledj]

Is this for your DJ friend from the USA?

[gaza]

When i saw the thread title i thought for a moment that you was going to talk about the Djs weight.:eek: , phew!

[djdave01]

My HK Sub is VERY heavy, i can just get it out the house into the car myself. If a venue has stairs & no lift, i dont use it.

Normally my girfriend is with me, and we can lift it up a couple of steps if nessesary, but i never try to lift it myself.

[Happy Jack]

Although the main issues with those is more the size and getting a good grip on them as they are 2m x 1m but it's possible to do by yourself.
Once upon a time it was part of the induction for one of the major crew companies to send guys across the office car-park and back with an 8' x 4' length of steeldeck. If you couldn't hold it up and make the return, you'd be turned away on the spot...

A certain amount of physical strength and fitness is a prerequisite. On rare occasions we do bring out the powered stairclimber.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

My RCF subs are supposed to be 37Kg which is lighter than a Mackie SWA1501 which I had before, but they aren't IMO....

I use a trolly or a dolly board to move them about, or carry short distances. I just bought a ramp for my van too, so won't need to be lifting them in and out either.

[simonp]

My RCF subs are supposed to be 37Kg which is lighter than a Mackie SWA1501 which I had before, but they aren't IMO....

I use a trolly or a dolly board to move them about, or carry short distances. I just bought a ramp for my van too, so won't need to be lifting them in and out either.

You're always buying new equipment you are :lol: ;) :p

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

You're always buying new equipment you are :lol: ;) :p

Am I? :confused:

[Penfold42]

When i saw the thread title i thought for a moment that you was going to talk about the Djs weight.:eek: , phew!

:lol:....and me. :o

Lift them in and out - you bunch of pussies......:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[simonp]

Am I? :confused:

just a little sarcastic play, as its what you said to me on Sunday :p

[Excalibur]

ah right, I just assumed they'd be heavy.
Justin thought they were. After damaging himself with a Mackie 1501 and a flight of stairs, he went down the passive route.


If its over ground floor and no lift then no subs. You try lugging an SWA1801.
It has castors on because its chuffin heavy - 60kg to be exact.
Well it would definitely need both hands, I'll admit. ;) :D


Build up the old muscles and carry them! Same with the stage blocks... Although the main issues with those is more the size and getting a good grip on them as they are 2m x 1m but it's possible to do by yourself.


Absolutely. And when you've got a real man's subs like these,
http://www.classd.ltd.uk/pro-audio-w-218.html
you need three shredded wheat.


My RCF subs are supposed to be 37Kg which is lighter than a Mackie SWA1501 which I had before, but they aren't IMO....

I use a trolly or a dolly board to move them about, or carry short distances. I just bought a ramp for my van too, so won't need to be lifting them in and out either.
:zip: :D :D


:lol:....and me. :o

Lift them in and out - you bunch of pussies......:D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Amen Brother. :D

[Corabar Entertainment]

:confused: Hold on... so if I'm reading previous posts correctly.... Tony's calling Darren a pussy? :confused:

[DJMaxG]

Absolutely. And when you've got a real man's subs like these,
http://www.classd.ltd.uk/pro-audio-w-218.html

That is a stonker of a sub Peter, and what's so good about Class D? :D

Do you prefer them to Twinspin's RCFs?

[Excalibur]

That is a stonker of a sub Peter, and what's so good about Class D? :D

Do you prefer them to Twinspin's RCFs?

Right Max, I'll be serious.
First, that sub is not really for Discos. It's aimed fairly and squarely at bands, or party crowds. This:
http://www.classd.ltd.uk/pro-audio-m-15_professional-concert-bass-bin.html
is an absolute stunner. Justin and I are presently seriously coveting this one. ;)
What's so good about them? Top of the list used to be price. Now they're no longer cheap as chips. I've got two pairs of cabs which have doubled in price since I got mine.
Do I prefer them to John's RCF? Well yes and no. The RCF are streets ahead on volume levels, no competition. However, I've heard Class D against name brand cabs more than once, and every time, the Class D have more middle, and warmth.

[A1DL]

That is a stonker of a sub Peter, and what's so good about Class D? :D

wow! over 100kg for a theoretical 133dB... doesn't win any prizes for weight to volume ratio then, although it's cheap and probably sounds musical(ish) given it's reflex.

[Excalibur]

wow! over 100kg for a theoretical 133dB... doesn't win any prizes for weight to volume ratio then, although it's cheap and probably sounds musical(ish) given it's reflex.

See above. The M15 stuffs it. ;) The 218 is for people who listen with their eyes. ;) ;)

[Daryll]

I use a pair of Class-D CD15 , weigh in at 35kg each .

use a trolly for these , it`s bad enough lifting them in and out of the Landy
Daryll

[DJMaxG]

Right Max, I'll be serious.
First, that sub is not really for Discos

Isn't it?

DJs use 2 x 18" Bins, and that is 2 bins on one cabinet :approve:

I'm guessing you mean a little too powerful, with more image than sound re-production?

[Tom]

:lol:....and me. :o

Lift them in and out - you bunch of pussies......:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

You tell them. lol.;) :D


Isn't it?

DJs use 2 x 18" Bins, and that is 2 bins on one cabinet :approve:

I'm guessing you mean a little too powerful, with more image than sound re-production?

I see the Pro M and the W218 more for live sound than for DJ use, more due to the size of the cabs but there is nothing stopping you using those cabs for DJ use. I just hope you have a big wallet to power them, move them and buy a van.

[Excalibur]

Isn't it?

DJs use 2 x 18" Bins, and that is 2 bins on one cabinet :approve:

I'm guessing you mean a little too powerful, with more image than sound re-production?
No Max, it's just too chuffing big!! ;) I truly can't imagine any mobile gig needing them, they're more for the outdoor/party/stadium bunch. And while I'm setting myself up to be shot down, I don't know of any 2x18" cabs in use by DJ's. Even the Peavey 2x15" subs are huge, and not really popular for that reason.


I see the Pro M and the W218 more for live sound than for DJ use, more due to the size of the cabs but there is nothing stopping you using those cabs for DJ use. I just hope you have a big wallet to power them, move them and buy a van.

Agreed there Tom, except that the M15 would in my opinion be fine for mobile DJ work, unless stairs were involved. :D :D

[DJMaxG]

Agreed there Tom, except that the M15 would in my opinion be fine for mobile DJ work, unless stairs were involved. :D :D

:rofl: I wonder what brought that up! ;)

[Twinspin]

My RCF's are 18kg each (thats the tops) i carry one in each hand when loading in usually and do carry the RCF Subs as well (37kg each) it says
but i just get on with it (long distances i use a dolly board and sack trolley)

[flatliners]

why do we always pick on max he is a legend dont you know
legend in his own bedroom

[djsteve10]

When I use the SRM450 V1's I carry one in each hand upstairs into venues just to save a trip.

If I use a pair of Mackie 1501 subs then I also carry them into venues as to be honest I don't think they are that heavy but I will use a sack trolley and stack one on top of the other and wheel them in.

[rob1963]

long distances i use a dolly board

I'd rather use something which sounds similar ;)

[Corabar Steve]

I'd rather use something which sounds similar ;)
No surprise you're still single then.

[rob1963]

No surprise you're still single then.

You make it sound as though there's something wrong with being single. 10 million people can't be wrong!

To be honest, it's largely through choice anyway.

If I had a wife or partner & kids to support, my retirement age would probably be at least 70 rather than 50.

No thanks!

:D

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

You make it sound as though there's something wrong with being single. 10 million people can't be wrong!

To be honest, it's largely through choice anyway.

If I had a wife or partner & kids to support, my retirement age would probably be at least 70 rather than 50.

No thanks!

:D

Yeah, we don't want Rob hanging round here 'till he's 70...:eek: :D

[rob1963]

Yeah, we don't want Rob hanging round here 'till he's 70...:eek: :D

Exactly!

Lets be honest...it's amazing you've managed to put up with me for 3 years!

:D

[Excalibur]

Exactly!

Lets be honest...it's amazing you've managed to put up with me for 3 years!
:D

Three? :eek: :confused: Seems like Thirty-three. :p :p :D :D