Anyone else feeling less like a DJ?

[Dynamic Entertainment]

Well guys, im now a firm believer that the whole playlist thing is starting to get out of hand. Ive just had 4 playlists returned to me over the weekend...one of them is for next saturday :eek: and every single one of them has over 150 songs on. Take saturdays gig, im on 8pm-1am with a band toing 2x 45min slots. that leaves me with 3h 30m and theyve supplied me with over 7 and a half hours of music requests (and "would ideally like them all played" :bang: )

Im all for the odd page of requests coming im but im starting to feel like a flaming jukebox!

Rant over :)

[Vectis]

Start by playing 30 seconds of each song? They'll soon change their minds :p

I had one not long ago where I had over 300 songs for a 3-4 hour disco, with 100+ from ONE guest alone :(

I kicked off the disco by thanking everyone for their requests and making a joke of the quantity, then promising to try to play one song off each person's list as a minimum. Did the trick :)

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

I did a civil partnership a couple of years ago and they gave me just under 24 hours worth of requests for a 5 hour function!

[Penfold42]

I offer playlist option but tell the customer I can only play approx 20 tracks per hr if they are 3min's long. I'm going slightly off playlist though....use to like them.

[StarZSoundS]

band doing 2x 45min slots.

Warning ....I bet that ends up as 2 x 1 hour....by the time they've finished :Censored: around!!:eek: ;) :bang:

[Danno13]

I don't take bookings if they want to insist on too many must plays - suggestions are fine and discussing things in more detail to get a clear idea of what they want, no problem at all, but not the whole nights worth as a list!

Just got this one through, but to be honest I could count on one hand the one's I don't think will work, so no objections, just a polite email to suggest I may not be able to fit them all in, but will do my best.

Prince 1999
Ray Charles Shake Your Tailfeather
PCDs Don’t Cha
Lionel Richie Dancing on the Ceiling
Moulin Rouge Lady Marmalade
Britney Spears One more time
Abba Mamma Mia
Michael Jackson Don’t stop til you get enough
Los Del Rio Macarena
Shakira Hips Don’t Lie
Beyonce Single Ladies
Bee Gees Night Fever
Lady GaGa Bad Romance
Lady GaGa Just Dance
The Jackson 5 I want you back
Mavericks Dance the Night Away
Arthur Conley Sweet Soul Music
Tiffany I think we're alone now
Lou Bega Mambo No 5
The B52s Love Shack
Aretha Franklin Respect
Wham Wake me up before you Go Go
The Commitments Mustang Sally
Scissor Sisters I don’t feel like dancing
Van Morrison Brown Eyed Girl
Mark Ronson Valerie
Queen Don’t stop me now
Whitney Houston I wanna dance with somebody
Michael Jackson Billie Jean
Cyndi Lauper Girls just wanna have fun
Foundations Build me up Buttercup
Rose Royce Carwash
MC Hammer You cant touch this
The Communards Don’t leave me this way
5ive Megamix
Ricky Martin Livin La Vida Loca
Pointer Sisters Jump
Ar Rahman Jai Ho
Panjabi MC Mundian to bach KE
From Grease Hand Jive
Bon Jovi Livin on a Prayer
Stevie Wonder Superstition
Madonna Like a Prayer
Take That Never Forget
The Four Tops Reach out (I'll be there)
Dexy's Midnight Runners C'mon Eileen
Martha Reeves and the Vandellas Dancing in the Street
Paul Simon You can call me Al
Elvis feat. JLX A little less conversation
Don Healey Boys of summer
Bryan Adams Summer of 69
Wyclef Jean Perfect Gentleman
Kings of Leon Sex on Fire
Belinda Carlisle Heaven is a place on earth
R Kelly Ignition
Rick Astley Never gonna give you up
Usher Yeah!
Duffy Mercy
7Club Reach for the stars
Shakira She Wolf
Flo Rida Low
Santana Smooth
Black Eyed Peas I gotta feeling
Alexandre Burke Bad Boys
Christina Aguilera Aint no other man
Miley Cyrus Party in the USA
Keisha Tick Tock

[Daryll]

When I send out all the paper work , there is a page of requests ( and no no`s).
On the bottom of the page I gave them a rough guide of 20 songs per hour , so a 5 hour disco is 100 absolute max.
Most so far have settled for between 20 and 40


Daryll

[Dynamic Entertainment]

Heres saturdays, its not bad tbh, but im getting like Tone, i used to like them but now they are getting OTT

Spiller – Groove Jet
James – Sit down
Yazz – The only way is up
Black eyed peas – Shut up
Meet me halfway
Keane – Spiralling
Madonna – Into the groove
Celebration
Like a prayer
La Isla Bonita
New Radicals – Get what you give
New Order – Tell me when
Proclaimers – I’m gonna be
Toto – Africa
Hold the line
Dolly Parton – 9 to 5
Jolene
Fun Factory – Feels like heaven
Whitney Houston – I wanna dance with somebody
Lionel Ritchie – All night long
Killers – Mr Brightside
Smile like you mean it
Michael Jackson - Thriller Billy Jean Smooth Criminal
Girls Aloud – Call the shots
Duffy - Mercy Stepping Stone
Duran Duran – View to a kill Ordinary World
Wham – Club Tropicana
Wham
Wake me up before you go go
Stone Roses - Waterfall I wanna be adored Fools gold
Fleetwood Mac – Own way
Cyndi Lauper - Girls just wanna have fun
Robert Palmer – Addicted to love
Chris de Burgh – Lady in red
Billy Joel – Uptown Girl
Guns and Roses – Sweet child of mine
The Similou – All this love
Karen Ramirez – Looking for Love
The Verve – Love is noise
Kasabian – Fire
Timberland – Scream
ABC – When smoky sings
Billy Ocean – Caribbean queen
Justin Timberlake – What goes around
Kings of Leons – Sex is on fire
- Call on
Rhianna – Please don’t stop the music - Umbrella
Starbust – Music sounds better
Daft punk – One more time
Queen – Under pressure - Radio gag a
- This thing called love

Lynyrd Skynyrd – Sweet home Alabama
Bon Jovi – Livin on a prayer
Billy Idol – White wedding
- Rebel yell
Linkin Park and Jay Z – Encore
Various – Perfect Day
Diana Ross and Supremes – Chain reaction
The four seasons - Oh what a night
Lady Gaga – Poker Face
Gabriella Chilme – Sweet about me
Marvin Gaye – Grapevine
Bananarama – Venus
Dirty Dancing – Time of my life
Snap – Rhythm is a dancer
Culture beat – Mr Vain
Spandua Ballet – Gold
Queens of the stone age – no one knos
Diana Ross – Upside down
Nirvana – Smells like teen spirit
Shannon - Let the music play
Roy Ordison – Pretty woman
Bob Marley – Sun is shinning
Faithless – Insomnia
Hall and oates – Maneater
Simon and Garfunkel – Diamonds on souls of her shoes
Cecilia
Nelly Fertardo – Say it right
Oasis – Slide away Whats the story
Paul Simon – Gracelands
Christina Aguleria – Dirty
Sugar babes – Push the button
Shape of my heart
Sting - Englishman in New York
Every little thing she does is magic
Human League – Together in electric dreams
Johnny Cash – Ring of Fire
Groove Armanda - Super styling
Frank Sinatra – I’ve got you under my skin
Jesus Jones – International Bright young thing
Blur - Song 2
Eric Clapton – Layla
Jamelia – Superstar
Elton John – Are you ready for love
- Don’t let the sun go down on me
Darren G – Regulate
M people – Search for a hero
Elvis – Viva las vegas
George Michael – Flawless
Tina Turner – Simply the best
Take That – Babe
Back for good
Million love songs
Carly Simon – Your so vain
U2 – With or without you
Mousse T – I’m horny
Bros – When will I be famous
REM – Shiny happy people
Bob Dylan – lay lady lay
EMF – unbelievable
KLF – Last train
Jack Johnson – Upside Down
Better together
Rod Stewart – Baby Jane
Do ya think I’m sexy
Pet shop boys – West end girls
Love
Steales Wheel – Stuck in the middle
Prince – The most beautiful girl in the world
Purple rain
Rednex – Cotton eye Joe
Simply Red – Sunrise
Coolio – Gangsters paradise
No doubt – Don’t speak
Britney Spears – Baby one more time
You Can't Hurry Love - The Supremes
Marvin Gaye & Kim Weston - It Takes Two
Abba – voulez vous
- gimme gimme gimme a man after midnight

Alex party – Party time
Mini viva – I left my heart in tokoyo
Leona lewis – bleeding love
Journey – Don’t stop believing
Ziggy Marley – tomorrow people
Bob Marley – No woman no cry
Muse – supermassive black hole
Genesis – In the air tonight
Toploader – Dancing in the moonlight
Five – If you got the feeling
Westlife – World of our own
Drifters – Saturday night at the movies

[Shaun]

I accept a maximum of 30 (must play) song requests, pre-event. They can of course suggest more, but I'll only guarantee their 30 'must plays'. If they want a DJ who'll play to a strict list then I'm not the DJ for them.

[spin mobile disco]

If you havent already seen them the reason is the articles is snobby wedding magazines and online sites. They assume that all DJs are DJ Daves who know nothing about music and will wreck your day the first chance we get.
I have yet to see a wedding magazine with a good article from the DJ's standpoint.

I have also noticed a rise in these long request lists and so many of them fail in bad ways. All thanks to the bad advice offered.

To give you the gist of it. They say you should not pay a deposit for a DJ not pay him until the end of the night and only then if you are happy. And to set out what you want played all night.

Im sorry to say people are following this advice and thinking nothing of it.

I wonder how much actual experience these writers actually have with arranging DJ's and planning music for an evening. In most cases it would be slim to none at all. Sad.

[StarZSoundS]

Surely its really basics maths.

Average song length ...4 mins.Equates to 15 an hour.Average function duration 4 hours....60 TRACKS(at the most).

Why would the principles embarass themselves by asking for more!!

However we know they can't count....have you seen the waste at some of these buffets at our functions!!They must think all the guests are going to eat 6 sausage rolls,12 chicken legs and a large Strawberry cheesecake EACH!!

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

I'm doing a 12th birthday party on Saturday, only 'cos my regular teen party DJ is not available..and I thought I'd 'keep my hand in' so to speak.

My daughter will be helping/roadying for the first time as she's been on at me for months now to come, so I thought it would be an ideal opportunity.

Here's the list to make it easy for me!!

1 black eyed peas i gotta feelin/ boom boom pow
2 akon right now now now
3 dizzee rascal holiday bonkers dirtie cash
4 jay z young forever
5 kesha tick tock
6 ne yo closer
7 tinchy stryder your not alwon, number 1, never leave you
8 iyaz replay
9 jay sean down
10 owl city fireflies
11 3oh!3 starstruk
12 Use Somebody Kings of Leon
13 justin timberlake sexy back
14 n dubz i need you and playing with fire
15 Sidney Samson Riverside (Let's Go!)
16 lady gaga love game just dance and bad romance
17 Russian Roulette Rihanna
18 robbie williams rock dj
19 chipmunk look for me and oppsy daisy
20 Whatcha Say Jason Derulo
21 Bad Boys Alexandra Burke
22 Do You Remember jay sean
23 Cheryl Cole 3 words
24 Sex On Fire Kings of Leon
25 Morning After Dark (feat. Nelly Furtado & SoShy) Timbaland
26 taio cruz come on girl and break your heart
27 saturdays up
28 noisettes dont upset the rhythm
29 britney spears 3
30 michael jackson blame it on the boogie
31 shakira hips dont lie
32 sexy chick david guetta
33 la roux bullet proof
34 pixie lott boys and girls
35 jls beat again
36 crazy in love
37 jay z empire state of mind
38 pitbull hotel room
39 sean kingston fire burning
40 katy perry hot n cold
41 lily alan not fair
42 cascada evacuate the dance floor
43 show me love robbin s
44 day and night kid kudi
45 kelly clason my life would suck with out you
46 alexandra burke broken heals
47 flo rida low and right round and sugar

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

If you havent already seen them the reason is the articles is snobby wedding magazines and online sites. They assume that all DJs are DJ Daves who know nothing about music and will wreck your day the first chance we get.


Whilst I agree with your reasoning, there is no smoke without fire and unfortunately, there are a lot of people in our industry who are bloody clueless...

[Penfold42]

My daughter will be helping/roadying for the first time as she's been on at me for months now to come, so I thought it would be an ideal opportunity.

:cool:

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

:cool:

....we'll see. ;)

[StarZSoundS]

I'm doing a 12th birthday party on Saturday, only 'cos my regular teen party DJ is not available..and I thought I'd 'keep my hand in' so to speak.

My daughter will be helping/roadying for the first time as she's been on at me for months now to come, so I thought it would be an ideal opportunity.

Here's the list to make it easy for me!!

1 black eyed peas i gotta feelin/ boom boom pow
2 akon right now now now
3 dizzee rascal holiday bonkers dirtie cash
4 jay z young forever
5 kesha tick tock
6 ne yo closer
7 tinchy stryder your not alwon, number 1, never leave you
8 iyaz replay
9 jay sean down
10 owl city fireflies
11 3oh!3 starstruk
12 Use Somebody Kings of Leon
13 justin timberlake sexy back
14 n dubz i need you and playing with fire
15 Sidney Samson Riverside (Let's Go!)
16 lady gaga love game just dance and bad romance
17 Russian Roulette Rihanna
18 robbie williams rock dj
19 chipmunk look for me and oppsy daisy
20 Whatcha Say Jason Derulo
21 Bad Boys Alexandra Burke
22 Do You Remember jay sean
23 Cheryl Cole 3 words
24 Sex On Fire Kings of Leon
25 Morning After Dark (feat. Nelly Furtado & SoShy) Timbaland
26 taio cruz come on girl and break your heart
27 saturdays up
28 noisettes dont upset the rhythm
29 britney spears 3
30 michael jackson blame it on the boogie
31 shakira hips dont lie
32 sexy chick david guetta
33 la roux bullet proof
34 pixie lott boys and girls
35 jls beat again
36 crazy in love
37 jay z empire state of mind
38 pitbull hotel room
39 sean kingston fire burning
40 katy perry hot n cold
41 lily alan not fair
42 cascada evacuate the dance floor
43 show me love robbin s
44 day and night kid kudi
45 kelly clason my life would suck with out you
46 alexandra burke broken heals
47 flo rida low and right round and sugar


Do you want to borrow some Limbo Poles Darren....Ideal for that age!!Breaks up the evening....shows of your Compering skills.Don't forget the Glo-Bracelets.Those boxes with 100 in are fine for this age....don't bother with the Poundland ones they are rank!!

[Dynamic Entertainment]

Thats a nice easy and straight forward playlist for the age range daz........wanna swap :D

[Penfold42]

Are you playing number 35 twice Daz.....:p :D :D

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Do you want to borrow some Limbo Poles Darren....Ideal for that age!!Breaks up the evening....shows of your Compering skills.

...I don't think so. ;)

These teen paries are sold on the basis of being 'grown up' discos. No party games or interaction unless requested. Young trendy DJ (or me if he's not available :D ) with sound system, lasers and smoke, playing the latest chart music.

And it's cheaper than my 'normal' charges.

[soundmaster mobile disco]

What annoys me most about the playlists is.when you are sharing with a band do they tell the band what 20 or so songs to play?

i dont think so

Most bands very rarley accept big playlists.They play what they think should be played and stick with it.

So why is it people think a dj would accept a big playlist?

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Are you playing number 35 twice Daz.....:p :D :D

LMAO! Took me a minute or so...

Shaddup! :boxer2:

[Vectis]

Do you want to borrow some Limbo Poles Darren....Ideal for that age!!Breaks up the evening....shows of your Compering skills.Don't forget the Glo-Bracelets.Those boxes with 100 in are fine for this age....don't bother with the Poundland ones they are rank!!

PLEASE tell me this was posted with tongue firmly in cheek? :eek:

[StarZSoundS]

...I don't think so. ;)

These teen paries are sold on the basis of being 'grown up' discos. No party games or interaction unless requested. Young trendy DJ (or me if he's not available :D ) with sound system, lasers and smoke, playing the latest chart music.

And it's cheaper than my 'normal' charges.

I do them too!!

Off topic....but do you think a change in Avatar might be prudent.My next one was going to be the Bay City Rollers but i'll email you the picture....if you want it??;) :eek: ;) :eek: :D

[Mark Wild]

PLEASE tell me this was posted with tongue firmly in cheek? :eek:

I've come to the conclusion it must be a permanent fixture VV .

[StarZSoundS]

PLEASE tell me this was posted with tongue firmly in cheek? :eek:

Absolutely not.....How many have you done Vectis??We have a nice following for all ages of Kids Parties.....which provide a healthy flow of adult parties...thanks to the live advertising.No website....don't need one!!;) :D

The one about Darren and the Bay City Rollers was TONGUE IN CHEEK...so you were close!!

[Mark Wild]

Absolutely not.....How many have you done Vectis??We have a nice following for all ages of Kids Parties.....which provide a healthy flow of adult parties...thanks to the live advertising.No website....don't need one!!;) :D

Incoming !

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

We have a nice following for all ages of Kids Parties.....

We don't do kids parties. We do teen parties. There is a difference IMO.

[StarZSoundS]

We don't do kids parties. We do teen parties. There is a difference IMO.

But some stuff works for both....teens and kids.....even used the Limbo at some adult functions.

This is not an exaggeration...those poles have paid for themselves a thousand times over!!

As Darren has always said...and I love him for it.....

Its not the equipment you've got....its how you use it!!;)

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

But some stuff works for both....teens and kids.....even used the Limbo at some adult functions.



So have I, but that was quite a while ago.

You cannot just assume that teens would like things like that - some would be soooooooo embarrassed if some cheesy old DJ suddenly got limbo poles out and tried to organise something they didn't want.

[Vectis]

Incoming !

:p



Absolutely not.....How many have you done Vectis??

Go on, I'll bite.

Around 40% of my work is Kids & Teens. I have a Kids & Teens specific package which also goes under the ClubVibe brand when combined with certain regular venues.

The nearest I get to your 80s-throwback suggestions is offering a bubble machine option :)

[StarZSoundS]

Well guys, im now a firm believer that the whole playlist thing is starting to get out of hand. Ive just had 4 playlists returned to me over the weekend...one of them is for next saturday :eek: and every single one of them has over 150 songs on. Take saturdays gig, im on 8pm-1am with a band toing 2x 45min slots. that leaves me with 3h 30m and theyve supplied me with over 7 and a half hours of music requests (and "would ideally like them all played" :bang: )

Im all for the odd page of requests coming im but im starting to feel like a flaming jukebox!

Rant over :)

Just been in the bath and had a Eureka moment.Why not adapt your form to only have 60 slots on it.Warn them if they go over that figure it incurs a £5.00 Surcharge per track.I think you might be getting some reduced playlists on that basis.If you don't do it that way mention it in your pre- event meeting!!Simples!!:devil:

[Danieleastwood.com]

Am I the only Jock on here to admit to not accepting playlists???

I'll take requests on the evening, and make sure I have the must plays, ie first dance, Mum-in-laws favourite, Hen Party night favourite etc.

But if they feel a list is needed, I try to explain what I do, and how my intention is a 'full floor for as much of the night as possible'. If that doesnt work, and they are insistent on me playing their list end to end, then sorry, 'you'll be better off, finding another DJ, I trust you have a great night regardless'

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Am I the only Jock on here to admit to not accepting playlists???


So you don't tailor and personalise their party for them then?

[StarZSoundS]

:p




Go on, I'll bite.

Around 40% of my work is Kids & Teens. I have a Kids & Teens specific package which also goes under the ClubVibe brand when combined with certain regular venues.

The nearest I get to your 80s-throwback suggestions is offering a bubble machine option :)

Impressive but it doesn't tell me what the 40% is in monetrary terms....and I really don't need to know cos this isn't a money thread.So it is a large part of your business...as it is mine.So we have something in common.Wether we do it Clubvibe or 80's throwback is not really an issue...because we both conduct our business as we choose??;) ;)

Did you read the thread about the 10,000 toys I just purchased in the For Sale section...would any of them be of use to you??

[StarZSoundS]

So have I, but that was quite a while ago.

You cannot just assume that teens would like things like that - some would be soooooooo embarrassed if some cheesy old DJ suddenly got limbo poles out and tried to organise something they didn't want.


Your either in the wrong area or not selling it right.We all agree sometimes Cheese is good.Its when you don't have the ability to move in and out of it that its a problem!!:eek: :eek: ;) ;)

Much better Avatar....is that you??

[Vectis]

Impressive but it doesn't tell me what the 40% is in monetrary terms....

In tax year 2008/09 my disco work was 41.8% Kids & Teens, 47.8% Weddings & CPs, 3.4% Corporate, 6.8% Adult Other. Included in Kids & Teens are a couple of outdoor carnival type events. In turnover terms, Kids & Teens accounted for slightly under 28%. In cost terms, just over 20%, mostly through the reduced man hours compared to a wedding.


Did you read the thread about the 10,000 toys I just purchased in the For Sale section...would any of them be of use to you??

Errr... yes I did, and no they wouldn't :zip:

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Your either in the wrong area or not selling it right.

Why is it that I understand that it might work for you, but you can't see past the end of your nose when it comes to other people's working practises or marketing?

I am not selling the teen parties with some 70s throwback DJ. I am selling them as cool gear, tunes and DJ.

I am not in the wrong area, but you are certainly in the wrong era...

[StarZSoundS]

Why is it that I understand that it might work for you, but you can't see past the end of your nose when it comes to other people's working practises or marketing?

I am not selling the teen parties with some 70s throwback DJ. I am selling them as cool gear, tunes and DJ.

I am not in the wrong area, but you are certainly in the wrong era...


My presence in the 70's clearly offends you and that is why you persist with negative comments about it.

Cool gear,tunes and DJ...Can do that too...I mentioned it in previous posts.....Never thought of marketing it like that tho...

Need a new name first....DJTroy,Toby,Lee,Romeo...no its just not working!!;) ;)

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

My presence in the 70's clearly offends you and that is why you persist with negative comments about it.



Not negative. I have moved on as have most people, but you insist that your way is better. I did it your way years ago and no longer wish to work that way.

[StarZSoundS]

Not negative. I have moved on as have most people, but you insist that your way is better. I did it your way years ago and no longer wish to work that way.

I do what works for me....so in that way it is better....for me.I have picked out the things I like from the new way....Laptops,music accesibility,LED lights,Lasers,Starcloths etc etc etc and coupled that with what I don't think was wrong with the older days(MOST would agree that the music was MUCH better then)... we also seemed to have so much more fun then...so I have incorporated that into what I do...and it seems to work!!

Anyway....I've been away for a week pondering on a few things....but your old sparring partner is back!!!:beer1: :beer1: ;) ;) :D :D :beer1: :eek:

[rob1963]

It's ironic, but because I offer set packages a few people have suggested that my service isn't particularly bespoke, when in reality I encourage at least 50 requests from my clients, so my service is probably more bespoke than many discos that DON'T offer packages!

I've never been one for xx number of must plays, xx number of play if possibles and xx number of other songs they like, because it's too complicated.

I also don't understand why a number of discos limit clients to a certain number of requests, as this isn't very good customer service in my book. People book a disco for the music, so why shouldn't they be able to choose what they like & as many songs as they like?

After all, when I go to a restaurant, they don't tell me what to order, and there's no maximum on the number of courses I can order.

My clients can request as many songs as they like. My request form has space for 50 songs, but they often email their lists, and these sometimes have between 50 and 100 songs, which is fine by me. It's the perfect situation, as I will tell them there won't be time to play all their requests, but that I'll get through as many of them as possible. I then cherry pick all the best songs from their list & don't play the ones which aren't as good, and I'll also accept requests on the night. Job done!

If people say they offer a bespoke service or that they tailor their service to their customer's requirements, they should accept as many requests as their clients want to give (and advise them if there are too many to play in the time available), but they should NOT be limiting the number of requests to 20, 30 or whatever.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

If people say they offer a bespoke service or that they tailor their service to their customer's requirements, they should accept as many requests as their clients want to give (and advise them if there are too many to play in the time available), but they should NOT be limiting the number of requests to 20, 30 or whatever.

And what gives you the right to decide what people should or shouldn't do then Rob?

[rob1963]

And what gives you the right to decide what people should or shouldn't do then Rob?

Absolutely nothing, Darren.

I'm not saying what people should or shouldn't do. That's entirely up to them.

What I AM saying is that I think it's contradictory to tell clients that you offer a bespoke service or that you will tailor your service to their requirements...but then to tell them you will only allow 20 requests!

It's a bit like a garage saying "You can have this model in any colour you like...as long as it's black"

:shrug:

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

What I AM saying is that I think it's contradictory to tell clients that you offer a bespoke service or that you will tailor your service to their requirements...but then to tell them you will only allow 30 requests!


Actually, you didn't say that at all in your last post...

Why is it contradictory then?

I offer a tailored service - why do I have to offer unlimited requests?

[rob1963]

Let me try & simplify what I'm trying to say.

If someone says they offer a bespoke service or that they they tailor their service to their customer's requirements, I think that means they do what their client wants.

Therefore, if their client wants to give them a list of 40 requests, they shouldn't turn round & say "You can't do that. We only allow 30 requests"

Does that clarify what I'm trying (and clearly failing!) to say?

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Let me try & simplify what I'm trying to say.

If someone says they offer a bespoke service or that they they tailor their service to their customer's requirements, I think that means they do what their client wants.

Therefore, if their client wants to give them a list of 40 requests, they shouldn't turn round & say "You can't do that. We only allow 30 requests"

Does that clarify what I'm trying (and clearly failing!) to say?

I understand what you are saying but don't agree.

I offer a tailored service, but that doesn't mean every single thing.

They don't choose the mixer I use or the colour of socks I wear.

There are limits to every bespoke service I would have thought.

[rob1963]

I understand what you are saying but don't agree.

That's fair enough.


I offer a tailored service, but that doesn't mean every single thing.

I understand & accept that.


They don't choose the mixer I use or the colour of socks I wear.

No, because they couldn't care less about either of those things. However, the music is a completely different matter.


There are limits to every bespoke service I would have thought.

There certainly are, but the reason someone books a disco is for the music, so I find it strange that a company should say they offer a bespoke service, but only allow the client to choose 20 requests.

In my book, if there's one part of our service that SHOULD be bespoke, it's accepting the clients requests, whether they want 5 or 55.

[Pazz]

I have been taking requests by email for a number of my discos for a good few months now. I have been pondering about adding a request sheet to be sent out with my booking confirmations for me to get song requests sent back in the post as not everyone can get access to email. This way I will probably get request list for nearly all my disocs. I find it quite interesting some of the responses on here. My stance on this is that if you allowed for unlimited requests where does this leave you as a dj to actually use any skills in reading the dancefloor and playing similar songs to the requests. I would find it a bit boring just playing songs from a huge list of requests. The main buzz i get from a disco is knowing I have picked a song that hasn't been requested and I get a good reaction. If I just played a request list all night I may aswell turn up with the song list pre programmed and press shuffle!

When I add the request sheet I think I am likely to say that they can request as many songs as they like but also inform them that a maximum of 20 songs can be played per hour and that the dj will add similar type of songs/genre of music during the evening whilst accepting other requests from guests on the night. I think this should hopefully allow me as a dj to read the dancefloor whilst playing requests and keeping everyone happy :)

[Creature]

i dont get many playlists but tehn again it does say on the playlist form taht I use teh play list as a guide to teh type of music for that booking - and that I may not be able to play all/many of teh requests :):)

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

My stance on this is that if you allowed for unlimited requests where does this leave you as a dj to actually use any skills in reading the dancefloor and playing similar songs to the requests.

Exactly. I think it is quite sad that there are DJs who wouldn't have a clue without being given a list of songs to play. I think the requests should compliment the DJs choice and skill in choosing the correct styles and choice of song.

[Corabar Steve]

Queens of the stone age – no one knos
Tuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuune!

Now that's what I call music!


Exactly. I think it is quite sad that there are DJs who wouldn't have a clue without being given a list of songs to play. I think the requests should compliment the DJs choice and skill in choosing the correct styles and choice of song.
Indeed. However there's nothing wrong with long lists, as long as you make it clear that there is only time for x amount of songs in the time available & that you will be playing other stuff (requests on the night for one) & may well have to cherry pick the ones that you think are going to work the best.

[rob1963]

I have been taking requests by email for a number of my discos for a good few months now. I have been pondering about adding a request sheet to be sent out with my booking confirmations for me to get song requests sent back in the post as not everyone can get access to email. This way I will probably get request list for nearly all my discos.

I think that's a good idea, which is why it's exactly what I do! All my clients receive a music request form with their booking confirmation. This has room for up to 50 songs.

About 75% of them return this form with their balance cheque several weeks before their function, and the rest simply email their request list, which I also have no problem with.


I find it quite interesting some of the responses on here. My stance on this is that if you allowed for unlimited requests where does this leave you as a dj to actually use any skills in reading the dancefloor and playing similar songs to the requests?

I'm not so much saying we should allow unlimited requests, but that we should NOT allow limited requests, such as 20 or 30. After all, there are only so many hours available at a function, so there's no point in encouraging more requests than we have time to play!

When I get very long lists, I inform the client that I won't have time to play them all, but that I'll get through as many as I can in the time available. I then cherry pick pick all the best ones & leave the rest, which works perfectly.


I would find it a bit boring just playing songs from a huge list of requests. The main buzz i get from a disco is knowing I have picked a song that hasn't been requested and I get a good reaction.

Fair enough.

For me, the main buzz I get is seeing a busy dance floor, and it doesn't matter whether the song I'm playing happens to be a request taken on the night, one requested in advance by the client or my own choice.


If I just played a request list all night I may aswell turn up with the song list pre programmed and press shuffle!

Does pressing shuffle make your playout system read the dance floor & play the right song at the right time, then?


When I add the request sheet I think I am likely to say that they can request as many songs as they like but also inform them that a maximum of 20 songs can be played per hour and that the dj will add similar type of songs/genre of music during the evening whilst accepting other requests from guests on the night. I think this should hopefully allow me as a dj to read the dancefloor whilst playing requests and keeping everyone happy :)

That sounds very sensible to me.

[rob1963]

I think it is quite sad that there are DJs who wouldn't have a clue without being given a list of songs to play.

If you're referring to me there, then you're wrong.

I've done plenty of discos with no requests at all. I've even done weddings with no requests and where they've asked ME to choose the first dance!


However there's nothing wrong with long lists, as long as you make it clear that there is only time for x amount of songs in the time available & that you will be playing other stuff (requests on the night for one) & may well have to cherry pick the ones that you think are going to work the best.

Spot on, Steve.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

If you're referring to me there, then you're wrong.


Did I mention anywhere that I was talking about you? Don't try and put words in my mouth Rob.

[Shakermaker Promotions]

I send out a request sheet that has 25 rows on it and I note at the bottom that I will endeavour to play as many requests as I can within the duration of the function. I see it as a chance to see the style of music that the customer wants and then I use my experience to work with it. When I have a consultation with the customer I make it a bit humourous and say that I will have to speed up all of the songs to make sure that I get them all in and I would say that 99% of the time, the customer will say "Oh, don't worry, it's just a guide to show you what we like" and then they point out the songs that are 'Must Plays'. That works for me.

Just a another quick one but it goes back to the whole 'Human Jukebox' thing etc... My missus is registered on a wedding forum and she pointed out something to me the other day. There was a thread on the go about DJ's and I-pods. I took a look at the thread and it was interesting to say the least. It seems that the image of the Mobile Disco/DJ is still not that great with the majority that commented on the thread. Everyone that went on about the I-pod idea stated that at least they would be able to hear the music that they wanted without any 'Peter Kay' type rubbish over the top....(their words NOT mine!). However, those that did mention the Disco/DJ actually fought our corner and commented that "The DJ is a very important part of the whole day as it can be the perfect ending to a perfect day as long as you look around and get a good one".

Just thought I would mention it.

[rob1963]

I think it is quite sad that there are DJs who wouldn't have a clue without being given a list of songs to play.


If you're referring to me there, then you're wrong.

I've done plenty of discos with no requests at all. I've even done weddings with no requests and where they've asked ME to choose the first dance!



Did I mention anywhere that I was talking about you?

No, Darren, but I thought there was a possibility that you MIGHT be, given that my previous posts were about how I like to encourage lots of requests from clients.


Don't try and put words in my mouth Rob.

I'm certainly not doing that, Darren, which is why I said IF you're referring to me you're wrong (as I wasn't sure).

I was merely clarifying my position, as I didn't want anyone thinking I'm not capable of working without request lists. I've done do (successfully) on a number of occasions.

[Mark Wild]

:shrug:

[yourdj]

only 30 tracks for me.

At the end of the day they have booked a good dj and they should trust that i know how to entertain their guests.

why not get a set of speakers and an ipod if not? itunes can mix tracks together too (well merge anyway)

[rob1963]

At the end of the day they have booked a good dj and they should trust that i know how to entertain their guests.

Yes, but they shouldn't expect you to read their mind to discover all the songs they like.


why not get a set of speakers and an ipod if not? itunes can mix tracks together too (well merge anyway)

Because an ipod can't read the dance floor & play the right song at the right time.

For the record, I refuse rigid playlists (where they request all the songs for the function AND the order in which they're to be played).

[yourdj]

Yes, but they shouldn't expect you to read their mind to discover all the songs they like.

Because an ipod can't read the dance floor & play the right song at the right time.

For the record, I refuse rigid playlists (where they request all the songs for the function AND the order in which they're to be played).

Do you not do requests? i always get at least 40 requests That way i meet the guests too and they feel a part of it all as they also get what they want.

Most of my requests sheets are just the classics 9 out of 10 times. They span from sex on fire to dancing queen etc.
if they were played without a delay i bet with a good crowd the dancefloor would be busy all night dj or no dj :confused:

I have been to weddings who have DIY discos and they have been great. One was not as the groom choose the tracks (baggy 90's all night)

[DazzyD]

I accept a maximum of 30 (must play) song requests, pre-event. They can of course suggest more, but I'll only guarantee their 30 'must plays'. If they want a DJ who'll play to a strict list then I'm not the DJ for them.


only 30 tracks for me.

At the end of the day they have booked a good dj and they should trust that i know how to entertain their guests.

why not get a set of speakers and an ipod if not? itunes can mix tracks together too (well merge anyway)

30 guaranteed pre-requests for me also. However, I do charge for this as it helps to offset the costs involved from sourcing any tracks I don't already have.

[rob1963]

Do you not do requests? i always get at least 40 requests That way i meet the guests too and they feel a part of it all as they also get what they want.

Yes, I do requests. I take a list from the client in advance & also invite them on the night itself.


Most of my requests sheets are just the classics 9 out of 10 times. They span from sex on fire to dancing queen etc.
if they were played without a delay i bet with a good crowd the dancefloor would be busy all night dj or no dj :confused:

It sounds like you're suggesting that it's not important to be able to read the dance floor & play the right song at the right time, in which case I disagree.


30 guaranteed pre-requests for me also. However, I do charge for this as it helps to offset the costs involved from sourcing any tracks I don't already have.

You charge clients extra if they want to give you some requests?

:jawdrop:

[StarZSoundS]

Just been in the bath and had a Eureka moment.Why not adapt your form to only have 60 slots on it.Warn them if they go over that figure it incurs a £5.00 Surcharge per track.I think you might be getting some reduced playlists on that basis.If you don't do it that way mention it in your pre- event meeting!!Simples!!:devil:


I mentioned it ages ago......WITH MY TONGUE VERY FIRMLY IN MY CHEEK:D ;) :eek: :D ;) :eek:

[rob1963]

I mentioned it ages ago......WITH MY TONGUE VERY FIRMLY IN MY CHEEK:D ;) :eek: :D ;) :eek:

Indeed...but I think Dazzy is being SERIOUS!

:eek:

[Shaun]

This question goes out to everyone who accepts an unlimited playlist.

Although unlikely, what would you do if the client provided you with a list of 150 obscure "out of the norm" songs and you found out you didn't have most of them. Would you accept the £100+ loss it would cost you to purchase said tracks?

Just curious?

[Vectis]

That's unlikely Shaun, but not impossible, for me, as we never get to the playlist without already having had a considerable amount of dialogue.

I did have one group last summer who wanted lots of Trojan reggae and early ska during the meal (:eek: ) which meant sourcing lots of stuff I've never used since (:p ) but this was discovered at the pre-meeting and therefore quoted.

Even during the earliest conversations I ask what styles of music they're seeking which weeds out these types of scenarios.

[Daryll]

This question goes out to everyone who accepts an unlimited playlist.

Although unlikely, what would you do if the client provided you with a list of 150 obscure "out of the norm" songs and you found out you didn't have most of them. Would you accept the £100+ loss it would cost you to purchase said tracks?

Just curious?


OK , this MHO only , and may I state I have not been in this situation before.

I would imagine that the off beat song list would appeal to most of the party goers , therefore if there was 100 people there , I would think that this was more than a one off event , ( like people that still follow punk,goth, etc) therefore by playing the music they have requested , there could be a chance of a repeat booking , after all there are some DJ`s that specialize in a specific genre , so I would , and hope that something came of it.
However I might ask around for a DJ that did specialize in the type of music requested


Daryll

[rob1963]

This question goes out to everyone who accepts an unlimited playlist.

Although unlikely, what would you do if the client provided you with a list of 150 obscure "out of the norm" songs and you found out you didn't have most of them. Would you accept the £100+ loss it would cost you to purchase said tracks?

Just curious?

In my market of weddings, I think this situation is virtually impossible.

In my experience, people tell you at the outset if they want music which is out of the norm, in which case I'd probably turn down the booking.

I'd be interested to know how many people have spent £100+ on the music for one booking, regardless of whether or not they passed the cost onto the client.

The person who said he charges for requests also said that he only allows 30, so even if he had none of them 9which is extremely unlikely), it would only cost him about £23, rather than the £100+ you talk about.

[Danno13]

I remember spending about £40 for one gig this year, as they'd put a whole background list together of obscure (crap!) music, but 9/10 times I won't have to spend anything more than keeping up to date with new stuff, so it all evens out.

[NKR]

Am I the only Jock on here to admit to not accepting playlists???

I'll take requests on the evening, and make sure I have the must plays, ie first dance, Mum-in-laws favourite, Hen Party night favourite etc.

But if they feel a list is needed, I try to explain what I do, and how my intention is a 'full floor for as much of the night as possible'. If that doesnt work, and they are insistent on me playing their list end to end, then sorry, 'you'll be better off, finding another DJ, I trust you have a great night regardless'

Nope - in a previous thread I said I don't take large playlists and turn down work where I am on a fixed list.

[Jonathan Ford]

I remember spending about £40 for one gig this year, as they'd put a whole background list together of obscure (crap!) music, but 9/10 times I won't have to spend anything more than keeping up to date with new stuff, so it all evens out.

I had a similar situation, with a boat load of Il Divo and Kathryn Jenkins.

I encourage requests, but on the Music Request Form that goes out with my information pack it states around 15-20. I normally have to buy a couple of tracks for pretty much every list, as well as keeping up with the chart.

[cosmo1200]

you will find most of that on a mini mix....

[Shakermaker Promotions]

Isn't it part of the job to have a mixed bag of music to cater for all styles?
I'm not sure about the whole 'charging the customer for tracks' thing but I can see why some people may do it as at the end of the day, it's business.

I have to admit that most of the time there are probably one or two tracks that I may not have BUT I SHOULD HAVE so I download them. The customer is almost doing me a favour by jogging my memory and reminding me that the song(s) they have requested should be in my collection. I have a wedding in July that is for an ex punk. He is part of a scooter group now and has booked me because he thinks/knows I will be up to the job. He started listing lots of tracks over the phone and I knew every single one of them. He said he had called around 5 Discos before me (a couple are on here by the way) and he didn't feel that they were the right people for the job. That's not trying to be negative to anyone on here and who knows....the people on here may not have taken the job on anyway.

[StarZSoundS]

Isn't it part of the job to have a mixed bag of music to cater for all styles?
I'm not sure about the whole 'charging the customer for tracks' thing but I can see why some people may do it as at the end of the day, it's business.

I have to admit that most of the time there are probably one or two tracks that I may not have BUT I SHOULD HAVE so I download them. The customer is almost doing me a favour by jogging my memory and reminding me that the song(s) they have requested should be in my collection. I have a wedding in July that is for an ex punk. He is part of a scooter group now and has booked me because he thinks/knows I will be up to the job. He started listing lots of tracks over the phone and I knew every single one of them. He said he had called around 5 Discos before me (a couple are on here by the way) and he didn't feel that they were the right people for the job. That's not trying to be negative to anyone on here and who knows....the people on here may not have taken the job on anyway.



I'll never forget the biggest wedding I did....really nice Hotel.it was a colleague from work.He spent hours emailing me with his mainly Indie requests...Goo Goo Dolls,The Duallers,Artic Monkeys etc etc

I did as he asked...but the wedding was dying on it's :Censored:.20 minuites after the buffet I was brave enough to go over and say
"Marc...this really isn't working...is it,Ok if we do it my way??";)

He agreed.

Slapped on Cha cha Slide....Result....Full dance floor.Smothered them in cheese for the rest of the function...very succesful night.PHEW!!.

Now i've got a mate for life:eek:

[Excalibur]

Gary, that's the most sensible post on this thread by a country mile.

Martin, oh my good grief, I can't believe you posted that on here, you know how touchy some folk are about the C-word. :( :( ( Joke, before anyone gets all precious about artistic integrity, I do something a lot like that myself )

And as for all this request lark, well what a farce! Letting the punters have an input? :eek: Don't they know we're the professionals, and have the knowledge required to know exactly what to play and when? :confused: As if paying us to play music for them gives them some right to tell us what to play!!! :eek: :eek: Preposterous!!

[DJMaxG]

My daughter will be helping/roadying for the first time as she's been on at me for months now to come, so I thought it would be an ideal opportunity.

You should get her on the decks.

Will that playlist last throughout the duration of the function, or are you intening to go onto YMCA, agadoo etc afterwards?

[rob1963]

I'm really struggling to understand why so many people have a limit on the number of requests they accept, especially when that number is as low as 20.

I can see it's an advantage for the DJ, as it means less preparation time & potentially less tracks to buy...but what about the client?

A number of DJs clearly limit requests to a dozen or two, but I've not seen this mentioned on any disco websites, and I can guess why...it's hardly a good selling point!

:shrug:

[DJMaxG]

I'm really struggling to understand why so many people have a limit on the number of requests they accept, especially when that number is as low as 20

DJs reckon that if the entertainer can't get the crowd going, then they risk losing further clients who are in attendance as guests.

If the playlist doesn't work out, then that is the scenario you could face :(

[yourdj]

I'll never forget the biggest wedding I did....really nice Hotel.it was a colleague from work.He spent hours emailing me with his mainly Indie requests...Goo Goo Dolls,The Duallers,Artic Monkeys etc etc

I did as he asked...but the wedding was dying on it's :Censored:.20 minuites after the buffet I was brave enough to go over and say
"Marc...this really isn't working...is it,Ok if we do it my way??";)

He agreed.

Slapped on Cha cha Slide....Result....Full dance floor.Smothered them in cheese for the rest of the function...very succesful night.PHEW!!.

Now i've got a mate for life:eek:

Exactly. i have had some playlists in the past and it has bombed. When i have suggested doing it my way they have always said yes please. i cant see how a bride or groom unless they are into music big time can provide the whole evenings tracks to relate to all the guests?

- even when the guests choose a few tracks each some of them are shocking but that is their favorite tune sitting at home.
Does it relate to a dance-floor? stairway to heaven springs to mind here.

Maybe for an 18th then that would be viable but every-time i had long lists in the past it has been a pain in the :Censored:

My selling point is that im a good DJ who can read the floor and play the right music.
i also get involved with the crowd and get to know individuals and what they want.

[StarZSoundS]

Bingo!!

SORRY MEANT TO QUOTE.....SENTENCE 4..i can't see how a bride or groom etc etc


That is the pivotal sentence in the whole thread.


Its what I was trying to say;) :beer1: ;) :D :beer1:


Well done....Young man!!


You want Indie listen to it on your headphones at home...because the chances are your older guests are not going to be in the least bit :Censored: interested.(hastens to add...with the odd few exceptions).:eek: :eek:

[yourdj]

Bingo!!


The pivotal sentence in the whole thread.


Its what I was trying to say;) :beer1: ;) :D :beer1:


Well done....Young man!!


You want Indie listen to it on your headphones at home...because the chances are your older guests are not going to be in the least bit :Censored: interested.(hastens to add...with the odd few exceptions).:eek: :eek:

Thanks :)

Although indie works fine. Rap seems to be the biggest turn off for oldies.
Im listening to plan be now and its a mix of indie and rap (oldies would love that :D ).
I might try that one at my next masonic gig LOL

I think there is a place for almost every genre at any venue. Just a case of the right track i reckon?

I meet with all my clients and discuss their preference including must plays and definite no-no's.
What's interesting though the clients who say "no cheese" are the ones going mad for it on the day after asking for greese or something

Goes to show they are not used to events or what music works and is acceptable to play.
Most brides and grooms are used to nightclubs/bars which a wedding most certainly aint!

Ive done weddings in bars and played dance music all night and it has gone great and being a club
promoter and ex free party organizer that was a refreshing change.

:D

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Will that playlist last throughout the duration of the function, or are you intening to go onto YMCA, agadoo etc afterwards?

Do you really think that a 12 year old wanting a 'cool' DJ and disco would be wanting then to play YMCA and agadoo? Come on Max...:bang:


I'm really struggling to understand why so many people have a limit on the number of requests they accept, especially when that number is as low as 20.

I can see it's an advantage for the DJ, as it means less preparation time & potentially less tracks to buy...but what about the client?

A number of DJs clearly limit requests to a dozen or two, but I've not seen this mentioned on any disco websites, and I can guess why...it's hardly a good selling point!

:shrug:

If you don't agree with it or do it yourself, then why keep banging on about it Rob? We've heard your opinion and all understand what you think.

[Jonathan Ford]

you will find most of that on a mini mix....

What's a mini mix?


I'm really struggling to understand why so many people have a limit on the number of requests they accept, especially when that number is as low as 20.

I can see it's an advantage for the DJ, as it means less preparation time & potentially less tracks to buy...but what about the client?

A number of DJs clearly limit requests to a dozen or two, but I've not seen this mentioned on any disco websites, and I can guess why...it's hardly a good selling point!

:shrug:

I see it as an advantage for the client as well. Whenever I've been handed 4 pages of A4, all "must play" tracks, it's been really difficult to create a smooth performance out of them. Consequently, there has been a fair amount of jumping around between genres, BPM's etc, leaving me with a disjointed performance and the crowd up and down like a brides nightie!

By having a fewer number of requests, it allows me to play the songs that have been requested, at the right time, and build a show around them.

[StarZSoundS]

Thanks :)



Goes to show they are not used to events or what music works and is acceptable to play.


:D

Then they are better off leaving it with us then.

You wouldn't employ a plumber to fit a new bath and then tell him how to do it....Would you??:eek: :eek:



Anyway request threads are getting boring!!


Can we have a money thread for a change??

[Corabar Steve]

I'm really struggling to understand why so many people have a limit on the number of requests they accept, especially when that number is as low as 20.

I can see it's an advantage for the DJ, as it means less preparation time & potentially less tracks to buy...but what about the client?

A number of DJs clearly limit requests to a dozen or two, but I've not seen this mentioned on any disco websites, and I can guess why...it's hardly a good selling point!

:shrug:
Is anyone else getting a strong feeling of deja-vu?
:shrug:

[A1DL]

You wouldn't employ a plumber to fit a new bath and then tell him how to do it....Would you??:eek: :eek:



No, you'd just tell him what type/size/colour of bath you wanted, choose the taps to go with it and tell him where and when you wanted it fitted.

I doubt many clients/guests try to tell you how to insert a CD, or how to take a record out of it's sleeve and cue it up.

[rob1963]

I'm really struggling to understand why so many people have a limit on the number of requests they accept, especially when that number is as low as 20.

I can see it's an advantage for the DJ, as it means less preparation time & potentially less tracks to buy...but what about the client?

A number of DJs clearly limit requests to a dozen or two, but I've not seen this mentioned on any disco websites, and I can guess why...it's hardly a good selling point!

:shrug:


If you don't agree with it or do it yourself, then why keep banging on about it Rob? We've heard your opinion and all understand what you think.

I don't keep banging on about it, Darren.

In fact two of the three points in my post which you quoted were things I've NOT said before!

:confused:


Whenever I've been handed 4 pages of A4, all "must play" tracks, it's been really difficult to create a smooth performance out of them. Consequently, there has been a fair amount of jumping around between genres, BPM's etc, leaving me with a disjointed performance and the crowd up and down like a brides nightie!

With 4 pages worth of requests, surely it's not THAT hard to sort them out into some kind of order where you're NOT jumping around all over the place so your performance is NOT disjointed?


Is anyone else getting a strong feeling of deja-vu?
:shrug:

I knew it was going too well.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Is anyone else getting a strong feeling of deja-vu?
:shrug:

Yep...

[rob1963]

I get the hint, so I'll leave this thread to the rest of you.

[simonp]

I encourage a playlist fro, all my customers - if only to get a feel for the musical direction they prefer. When listing specific must must plays I 'suggest' between 20 -30 or so tracks and then have a seperate section for musical genres - It then doesn't take rocket science from their specific requests as to the general direction you're going to go in.

If they go mad on the specific requests, so be it, I don't lambast them, just say 'great song selection ;) ', then point out the time factor and I'll be hoping to get through what I can - They're normally having too good a time (or ahem socially relaxed) to notice if you haven't played a particular track - I can't recall ever having someone come back at be for not playing something on a playlist, I mean let's face it can they remember everything they've requested off the top of their head (especially if it's been a long list).

A lot of it is about common sense on our part methinks.

My 'must play' list is similar to Darrens for this Saturday - so happy days, easy night & easy life for me.

Leona Lewis - Out Of My Head & Happy
BEP - Meet Me Half Way & I Gotta Feeling
NDubz - Playing With Fire & I Don't Want To Go To Sleep
Justin Bieber - One Time & One Less Lonley Girl
Alexandra Burke - bad Boys & Broken Heels
Cheryl Cole - 3 Words & Fight For This Love
Chipmunk - Look for Me & Oops a daisy
Gagagagagaga - Just Dance & Bad Romance (strangely no Poker face as a specific)
Sugababes - Get Sexy - About A Girl
Jay Sean - Down
Iyaz - Replay
Owl City - Fireflies Have you seen the cover for this single - they HAVE to be Sheffield Wednesday Fans lol
3Oh!3 - Starstrukk
Kei$ha - Tik Tok
Timbaland - Morning After Dark
D Money - Russian Roulette
Guetta - Sexy Chick
Saturdays - Up
JLS - Everybody In Love, Beat Again & One Shot

[Jonathan Ford]

With 4 pages worth of requests, surely it's not THAT hard to sort them out into some kind of order where you're NOT jumping around all over the place so your performance is NOT disjointed?.

Well, on the two or three occasions it's happened to me, there have been around 120 requests. So yes, it is much more difficult than playing a smaller number of requests and creating a performance around it.

More importantly, I don't think I ever have, or ever will, lose a booking on the basis that I want to use my judgement and experience to create a unique and memorable event rather than just hit play on some gargantuan playlist.

[Excalibur]

I get the hint, so I'll leave this thread to the rest of you.
Well I'll be backing out soon as well, cos I can't believe some of the things that are being posted!! :eek: :eek: I don't think anyone is unaware of my views and policy, or would benefit from me reiterating them.


Well, on the two or three occasions it's happened to me, there have been around 120 requests. So yes, it is much more difficult than playing a smaller number of requests and creating a performance around it.

More importantly, I don't think I ever have, or ever will, lose a booking on the basis that I want to use my judgement and experience to create a unique and memorable event rather than just hit play on some gargantuan playlist.
I might dispute that.

[DJMaxG]

Do you really think that a 12 year old wanting a 'cool' DJ and disco would be wanting then to play YMCA and agadoo? Come on Max

would that be you then :D :p :p :p



JLS - Everybody In Love, Beat Again & One Shot

not a bad shout, sounded great when Alex Burke sang it though.

[Jonathan Ford]

I might dispute that.

In fairness, it's indisputable. I know that I've never lost a booking for this reason because it's never come up as an issue during the booking process. On two occasions, when the music request form has been returned with a load extra (and I am talking a load more, not just a few), I've contacted the client and told them that I'll do my best to play as many as I can, but the list is a little extensive. No-one has ever cancelled because of this.

Of course, your experience may differ.

[DJMaxG]

I've contacted the client and told them that I'll do my best to play as many as I can, but the list is a little extensive. No-one has ever cancelled because of this

The customer will get the same wherever they go, so why cancel ;)

[Corabar Steve]

The customer will get the same wherever they go, so why cancel ;)
Care to clarify that one a bit Max?

[DJMaxG]

Care to clarify that one a bit Max?

If they went to another DJ, the playlist issue would not be resolved, as fitting 24 hours of music into a 5 hour function is not possible, so I doubt a cancellation would be made.

[Excalibur]

In fairness, it's indisputable. I know that I've never lost a booking for this reason because it's never come up as an issue during the booking process. On two occasions, when the music request form has been returned with a load extra (and I am talking a load more, not just a few), I've contacted the client and told them that I'll do my best to play as many as I can, but the list is a little extensive. No-one has ever cancelled because of this.

Of course, your experience may differ.

Fair enough, and the reason I didn't go with a cast iron rebuttal is as you have pointed out that providing you are able to explain the situation to them, and be flexible in your approach, then it would not be a problem.

The problems lie in a blanket refusal to accomodate longer lists, or deal sensibly with the customer. As you point out, a pleasant and polite chat with the customer can often be the best and simplest way of educating them to certain facts. ( such as not being able to play three days worth of requests in a three hour gig! :D :D )

[simonp]

JLS - Everybody In Love



not a bad shout, sounded great when Alex Burke sang it though.

Actually Max, as far as dancing goes it's a :Censored: terrible shout, but keeping in context with the thread, ultimately it is my shout, and if I feel it fits I'll use the dance remix and not the standard radio edit.

[DJMaxG]

if I feel it fits I'll use the dance remix and not the standard radio edit.

:rofl: - You always prefer remixes (DMC Fillers) :)

[DazzyD]

...You charge clients extra if they want to give you some requests?

:jawdrop:

Yep. But it's not "some" requests. It's lots of requests. "some" requests are included in the basic price. Remember, these are pre-arranged guaranteed-to-be-played tracks and usually mean a lot to the person requesting them. If I haven't got them in my library (it does happen!) then I have to source them. I find clients are happy to pay a few quid extra to ensure they have their special songs played rather than taking a chance and requesting songs that I might not have with me on the night.


Indeed...but I think Dazzy is being SERIOUS!

:eek:

I am being serious. It's called business and I'm in the business of giving the client exactly what he or she (usually she!) wants. But, at the same time, I'm not in the business of tracking down oscure tracks at a financial loss to myself.


...You want Indie listen to it on your headphones at home...because the chances are your older guests are not going to be in the least bit :Censored: interested.(hastens to add...with the odd few exceptions).:eek: :eek:

If any of the (rather substantially large) group of potential clients that you've just alienated gets in touch with you then feel free to pass them on to me (or any one of the number of folk on here who believing in giving the client what they want).


No, you'd just tell him what type/size/colour of bath you wanted, choose the taps to go with it and tell him where and when you wanted it fitted.

I doubt many clients/guests try to tell you how to insert a CD, or how to take a record out of it's sleeve and cue it up.

Good reply!


Fair enough, and the reason I didn't go with a cast iron rebuttal is as you have pointed out that providing you are able to explain the situation to them, and be flexible in your approach, then it would not be a problem.

The problems lie in a blanket refusal to accomodate longer lists, or deal sensibly with the customer. As you point out, a pleasant and polite chat with the customer can often be the best and simplest way of educating them to certain facts. ( such as not being able to play three days worth of requests in a three hour gig! :D :D )

Communication is something a lot of service providers don't know how to do (and not just in our industry). Makes me wonder how they ever get on in business! :(

[ppentertainments]

Yep. But it's not "some" requests. It's lots of requests. "some" requests are included in the basic price. Remember, these are pre-arranged guaranteed-to-be-played tracks and usually mean a lot to the person requesting them. If I haven't got them in my library (it does happen!) then I have to source them. I find clients are happy to pay a few quid extra to ensure they have their special songs played rather than taking a chance and requesting songs that I might not have with me on the night.

I think charging for requests could be a USP :confused: :D :D :D

Never heard of it, but at the same time can see the reasons.

[DJMaxG]

It might be worth mentioning that you will accept most requests as long as you have them, and then limiting the amount of requests that need to be sourced to say 10, then they pay an extra fee for any more.

Most Discos I have been to tend to play average 'run of the mill' pop/dance/party music.

[DazzyD]

It's a good selling point for my gold package - all requests are included in the price!