Back to the drawing board.

[NKR]

Well as they say the best laid plans of mice and men, but never mind time to get cracking.

Following my various rants over being let down by someone it looks like its back to school. Currently trying to find an evening course in web design - Its proving more difficult than I thought it would. This government do nothing but crack on about skills and learning new ones.

Then its learn HTML and sort myself a web site out.

Business plan in bin - roll on 2011.

If I had known this six months ago I could have been well on with it. I hate it when people offer to do something for you then don't do it. I didn't even ask they insisted :bang:

[Corabar Entertainment]

Currently trying to find an evening course in web design - Its proving more difficult than I thought it would. In the interim, there are some pretty good courses online to teach yourself a bit of coding. If nothing else, it will give you a head start when you start your evening course ;)

[NKR]

In the interim, there are some pretty good courses online to teach yourself a bit of coding. If nothing else, it will give you a head start when you start your evening course ;)

I think it might be buy some books actually as I can't find any courses! Has anyone tried the government learning skills council web site. What a load of tosh about targets and nonsense. Nothing about doing a course.

Heading to Amazon to see what books there are.

[Corabar Entertainment]

...as I can't find any courses!Have you had a look on Floodlight (http://lancashire.floodlight.co.uk/lancashire/courses-classes-lessons/best-web-design-courses/qualification/study/region/16180339/220706/100/domain.html)? (Always the best website if your looking for any courses, I find)

[Excalibur]

Neil, there are people on here who do that sort of thing, if you wanted to get one running quickly, and then take it over yourself. Marc J is the web hosting guru, a splendid chap, and well worth a phone call to. ;) ;)

He'll point you in the right direction.

[NKR]

Neil, there are people on here who do that sort of thing, if you wanted to get one running quickly, and then take it over yourself. Marc J is the web hosting guru, a splendid chap, and well worth a phone call to. ;) ;)

He'll point you in the right direction.

The issue is ongoing maintenance and the cost of it. I don't really want to be forking out vast sums of money every month for maintenance contracts, so going to have a crack myself.

I have designed various web sites over the years that work very well, just had someone else put them together (do the IT bit). I understand all the principals being SEO, etc as a vast part of the day job is marketing. I have signed off the web site bills in the past :eek: not cheap.

It's that cost of building and maintaining that has been off putting so far, which is why someone said they would sort it for me, but it never happened.

[ppentertainments]

The issue is ongoing maintenance and the cost of it. I don't really want to be forking out vast sums of money every month for maintenance contracts, so going to have a crack myself.

I have designed various web sites over the years that work very well, just had someone else put them together (do the IT bit). I understand all the principals being SEO, etc as a vast part of the day job is marketing. I have signed off the web site bills in the past :eek: not cheap.

It's that cost of building and maintaining that has been off putting so far, which is why someone said they would sort it for me, but it never happened.

See Marc about a CMS system. He showed me one and can't think for the life of me why I did not take him up on his offer :confused:

[Corabar Entertainment]

You could get the site built, and then maintain it yourself. Your only 'ongoing cost' would be hosting.

[Excalibur]

You could get the site built, and then maintain it yourself. Your only 'ongoing cost' would be hosting.

And that's naff all. ;)

[NKR]

Does anyone have any experience of using BT for hosting. They have a package which is £5.00 per month for hosting, domain name and a site construction tool.

My concern with the prepackage sites is they vary how they are seen from end user to end user due to different browsers and are pants on SEO.

Okay lets cut to the chase on sites. My experience of web sites I have had constructed ranges from £1,500 to £10,000. The £10,000 ones are big fella's so I know I am not in that ball park - so ignore that.

So if I picked up the blower to one of my commerical suppliers I am looking at probably £1,000 construction and £50 an hour maintenance. so say for arguements sake uploading gig photo's and a possible blog couple and other bits - a couple of hours a month. So £1,000 built and say £1,000 a year to maintain. Thats a vast chunk of cash for a weekend hobby.

[Charlie Brown]

BT for hosting - fine.

BT for web design and templates - terrible.

[NKR]

BT for hosting - fine.

BT for web design and templates - terrible.

Thought that might be the case. So if I don't need all the pants that comes with the BT hosting package I can probably get hosted cheaper somewhere else.

Who is hosted where and recommends it?

Where is best place to purchase your domain name?

First digital now world wide web. I am supposed to just push play a few times.

[ppentertainments]

BT for web design and templates - terrible.
Says the Vistaprint website owner :D :D :p :p :D :D

[discomobiledj]

PM sent

[Charlie Brown]

Says the Vistaprint website owner :D :D :p :p :D :D

Maybe so...

I was thinking about seriously changing the other day - I then researched all the other DJ sites in Nottingham/Derby...and they don't have the same template as myself. I have paid for the branding to be removed at the bottom of the page.

I'm really happy with what I have done with it now....I think.

[ppentertainments]

Maybe so...

I was thinking about seriously changing the other day - I then researched all the other DJ sites in Nottingham/Derby...and they don't have the same template as myself. I have paid for the branding to be removed at the bottom of the page.

I'm really happy with what I have done with it now....I think.

It was a joke Charlie, however the template you are using must be one of the most common ones used for DJ's. :o

[Vectis]

So £1,000 built and say £1,000 a year to maintain. Thats a vast chunk of cash for a weekend hobby.

... and totally unnecessary for a brochure site supporting a weekend hobby.

[NKR]

... and totally unnecessary for a brochure site supporting a weekend hobby.

Hence why I have just bought a book for £14.50 and will do some reading when it arrives and hopefully learn how to make something - what god only knows.

I am targetting having worked it out by August and having a web site by September (I don't think that's too ambitious for a complete beginner).

I have had some kind offers of help on the PM, but I may as well work this out myself or I will never get anywhere with it. At least that way I am self sufficient in terms of updating and stuff.

[Pe7e]

Does anyone have any experience of using BT for hosting. They have a package which is £5.00 per month for hosting, domain name and a site construction tool.


Before you comitt to BT hosting, check with one of the web guru's for alternatives, you need fast reliable hosting, not cheap hosting. If your site doesn't download quickly, your potential client will be off elsewhere.

[ppentertainments]

for hosting and domain name try www.one.com. If you use quidco as well you get a domain name and hosting for one year for £1.00. Not had any problems with them so far.

[Excalibur]

So if I picked up the blower to one of my commerical suppliers I am looking at probably £1,000 construction and £50 an hour maintenance. so say for arguements sake uploading gig photo's and a possible blog couple and other bits - a couple of hours a month. So £1,000 built and say £1,000 a year to maintain. Thats a vast chunk of cash for a weekend hobby.
Cheaper options are available. ;) Especially on here.


Who is hosted where and recommends it?

Where is best place to purchase your domain name?First digital now world wide web. I am supposed to just push play a few times.
As suggested earlier, Marc J is the Oracle.
Scary, this technplogy, isn't it? ;) :D

Hence why I have just bought a book for £14.50 and will do some reading when it arrives and hopefully learn how to make something - what god only knows.

I am targetting having worked it out by August and having a web site by September (I don't think that's too ambitious for a complete beginner).

I have had some kind offers of help on the PM, but I may as well work this out myself or I will never get anywhere with it. At least that way I am self sufficient in terms of updating and stuff.

I'd have said March was a more sensible target. ;) Accept the offers of help, and learn how to take on the mantle at leisure. Surely priority one is to get your site up and running. Come on, even I've got one. :eek: :eek: :eek:

[SC Events]

It may not be the best company out there, but I use Webeden (http://www.webeden.co.uk/).

You can build your own site without having to use code, using the SiteMaker sotware and you can add HTML as well as many other things.

The package I have is £5.99 per/month which includes:

One FREE Domain
£30 Google Adwords Voucher
250mb Storage Space
10Gb Bandwidth (monthly)
You can have up to 5 Websites on your account

See more: HERE (http://www.webeden.co.uk/pricing.htm)

I have been with them 2 years and they recently sent me a voucher to get another Domain name for free :D

It works well me...It's like advertising, what works for one, might not work for another. :D

[NKR]

I was busy last night reading a pdf section of the book I have purchased and by the end of the weekend I should be able to get an HTML text only site up.

By the end of the following week who knows.

The offers are help are very much appreciated and I thank you all, but I am determined to learn how to build this thing from the ground up by myself. Its a new skill to learn and it's about time I started learning how to use technology again - before it's too late.

[discomobiledj]

Good luck :beer1:

[NKR]

Cheers :beer1:

If I get really stuck I will be back to beg for that help again :)

[discomobiledj]

Cheers :beer1:

If I get really stuck I will be back to beg for that help again :)

Just let me know!

[Marc J]

Then its learn HTML and sort myself a web site out.

I recommend http://www.sitepoint.com/books/ if you really want to learn for yourself, concentrate on (in no particular order): -

HTML
CSS
PHP
Javascript

A grasp of the first two is essential, and a knowledge of PHP will make things much easier in the long run. Javascript you don't really need to know, as most Javascript stuff is copy and paste from blogs / tutorials etc...look into JQuery and / or Mootools if you want to do all the "Web 2.0" stuff (I hate that phrase).

Check out CMS systems as an alternative to doing the whole thing from the ground up yourself. CMSMS (http://www.cmsmadesimple.org/), Joomla (http://www.joomla.org/), even Wordpress after spending a few ££s (mostly under £30) on a pre-made theme (http://themeforest.net/category/wordpress).

If you want to manage domains yourself take your pick of countless registrars available. For hosting you'll need a host who supports PHP / MySQL databases if you want to play around with that, especially if you want to run a CMS system. Most galleries scripts require a database on the hosting account, too.

Your price estimates are way off for what you're looking for. It should only cost you a fraction of that. I'm not going to do a hard sell - if you want to follow the recommendations on this thread just drop me a PM, I can set you up with a test hosting account free of charge if you want to play around...

[NKR]

I recommend http://www.sitepoint.com/books/ if you really want to learn for yourself, concentrate on (in no particular order): -

HTML
CSS
PHP
Javascript

A grasp of the first two is essential, and a knowledge of PHP will make things much easier in the long run. Javascript you don't really need to know, as most Javascript stuff is copy and paste from blogs / tutorials etc...look into JQuery and / or Mootools if you want to do all the "Web 2.0" stuff (I hate that phrase).

Check out CMS systems as an alternative to doing the whole thing from the ground up yourself. CMSMS (http://www.cmsmadesimple.org/), Joomla (http://www.joomla.org/), even Wordpress after spending a few ££s (mostly under £30) on a pre-made theme (http://themeforest.net/category/wordpress).

If you want to manage domains yourself take your pick of countless registrars available. For hosting you'll need a host who supports PHP / MySQL databases if you want to play around with that, especially if you want to run a CMS system. Most galleries scripts require a database on the hosting account, too.

Your price estimates are way off for what you're looking for. It should only cost you a fraction of that. I'm not going to do a hard sell - if you want to follow the recommendations on this thread just drop me a PM, I can set you up with a test hosting account free of charge if you want to play around...

I bought one of their books on Amazon last night :) The HTML and CSS one, so at least I am heading in the right direction.

My price estimates are based on my experience of having commercial sites constructed in the past. I appear to be getting told its nowhere near that by a good few people, which might make it worth getting someone to take a look at it for me. I will have a hoke through my book when it arrives and let you know.

In fact I will probably PM you later for a guide on price, so I can decide if its worth getting something up there and then I can learn it at my leisure.

Thanks

[StarZSoundS]

I bought one of their books on Amazon last night :) The HTML and CSS one, so at least I am heading in the right direction.

My price estimates are based on my experience of having commercial sites constructed in the past. I appear to be getting told its nowhere near that by a good few people, which might make it worth getting someone to take a look at it for me. I will have a hoke through my book when it arrives and let you know.

In fact I will probably PM you later for a guide on price, so I can decide if its worth getting something up there and then I can learn it at my leisure.

Thanks


You ditched the going digital project then Bud!!

[NKR]

You ditched the going digital project then Bud!!

Hmm - not that's still progressing. I am doing about 60% of my show off the HD2500 now, which is working well.

This is web site that I need. Been let down big time by someone, so going to learn it myself - maybe - possibly - I have a few options and some kind soles on here are offering plenty of assistance. As they always do.

Thanks Gents - and of course ladies.

[StarZSoundS]

Hmm - not that's still progressing. I am doing about 60% of my show off the HD2500 now, which is working well.

This is web site that I need. Been let down big time by someone, so going to learn it myself - maybe - possibly - I have a few options and some kind soles on here are offering plenty of assistance. As they always do.

Thanks Gents - and of course ladies.

60% THEN 70% THEN 80% AND 90%...THEN ONE DAY...you'll do the total show.

You'll always take an element of your CDs tho.....and a player!!

[NKR]

60% THEN 70% THEN 80% AND 90%...THEN ONE DAY...you'll do the total show.

You'll always take an element of your CDs tho.....and a player!!

Oh yeah I can get a decent show in two CD boxes so they will become permanent spare and the DND4000 is still mounted up ready to go. First thing I do when I set up is load Scissor Sisters I don't feel like dancing into one of the CD decks as a get out of jail in case system fails.

[BeerFunk]

Oh yeah I can get a decent show in two CD boxes so they will become permanent spare and the DND4000 is still mounted up ready to go. First thing I do when I set up is load Scissor Sisters I don't feel like dancing into one of the CD decks as a get out of jail in case system fails.Interesting... and do you play Scissor Sisters throughout the course of the night too? I'm asking, because it's something I've thought about too. Having to resort to the backup system, you would think playing a duplicate track would be the last worry, but I still consider it!

[NKR]

Interesting... and do you play Scissor Sisters throughout the course of the night too? I'm asking, because it's something I've thought about too. Having to resort to the backup system, you would think playing a duplicate track would be the last worry, but I still consider it!

Once I have used it I will reload the CD player with something else I haven't used, like Proclaimers 500 miles. If I have gone past the scissor sisters part of the night 500 miles is an acceptable drop if it goes nipples up.