Seo

[Charlie Brown]

Do any of you use companies that specialise in this?

Now I have a two websites I really need to market and advertise them...

How do the local disco's in my area get on the first page!?

I really appreciate it folks...Cheers!

[Spirits High]

How do the local disco's in my area get on the first page!?



Like I'm going to tell you :p :p :D :D

That was a joke BTW, have we not chatted about this in the past Charlie?

[Charlie Brown]

I know I did with Rob a while back and within this week I will be signed up to a few wedding sites...

Did we talk about it too Paul? :o

[Spirits High]

Did we talk about it too Paul? :o

I thought we had a while back, maybe we didn't :confused:

[Charlie Brown]

I have a terrible memory...maybe we did? :D I'm not sure.

[Pe7e]

How do the local disco's in my area get on the first page!?

I really appreciate it folks...Cheers!

First thing to do is list yourself on google maps and you will appear on the first page on a search for 'mobile disco nottingham', try googling it and see,

[Marc J]

Charlie, see http://www.forum.mobilediscodirectory.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17422

[Charlie Brown]

Just had a call from the company whereby I'm given five search phrases which guarantee me a spot on the first page of google.

The initial fee is £99 for the first month - I'm then given a report back with the most successful phrases. I'm then given the option of keeping all or just one of them on. It then works out at £19 a month per phrase. No contract or ties.

Opinions?

[Spirits High]

Don't do it.

Heed the advice already given especially from the likes of Marc J ;)

Remember Charlie "If you build it they will come", it takes time and patience.

[DJWilson]

Im around 2-3 on the first page for common pharses without any SEO company help

[CRAZY K]

Just had a call from the company whereby I'm given five search phrases which guarantee me a spot on the first page of google.

The initial fee is £99 for the first month - I'm then given a report back with the most successful phrases. I'm then given the option of keeping all or just one of them on. It then works out at £19 a month per phrase. No contract or ties.

Opinions?

So how does this work then---there are x amount of places on the first page.

If this company sells to x+1 or more Discos in your area its committing fraud.

Sounds like a load of cobblers to me:eek:

The last person who tried to sell me this hadnt noticed I WAS on page one--dummy:bang:

Make sure you get that guarantee in writing--what is the guarantee -one minute, one day, one month, one year?????

Remember im the guy that stays on page 1 all the time without any help at all;) ;) ;) ;)

Cynical as ever:beer1:

[Vectis]

Just had a call from the company whereby I'm given five search phrases which guarantee me a spot on the first page of google.

The initial fee is £99 for the first month - I'm then given a report back with the most successful phrases. I'm then given the option of keeping all or just one of them on. It then works out at £19 a month per phrase. No contract or ties.

Opinions?

:BS:

[Marc J]

Just had a call from the company whereby I'm given five search phrases which guarantee me a spot on the first page of google.

The initial fee is £99 for the first month - I'm then given a report back with the most successful phrases. I'm then given the option of keeping all or just one of them on. It then works out at £19 a month per phrase. No contract or ties.

Opinions?


:BS:

:agree:


Charlie, see http://www.forum.mobilediscodirectory.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17422

[Charlie Brown]

Understood. Thanks guys. :approve:

[Charlie Brown]

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I'm so tempted - because I'm still not on the blooming first, second or third page, when you type in "mobile disco nottingham"

I have spent a few bob on some directory's. I may give hitch a whirl but I just don't get it.

www.charliebrownsdisco.co.uk - I'm constantly updating the site. :o :(

I rang the company up and they GUARANTEE your on the first page - or you get your money back.

[DJWilson]

What a con! Such a waste of money. You can easierly manage it yourself, get a full FTP/user controlled site instead of vistaprint and your'll soon shoot up the rankings!

[Marc J]

I'm so tempted - because I'm still not on the blooming first, second or third page, when you type in "mobile disco nottingham"

I have spent a few bob on some directory's. I may give hitch a whirl but I just don't get it.

www.charliebrownsdisco.co.uk - I'm constantly updating the site. :o :(

I rang the company up and they GUARANTEE your on the first page - or you get your money back.

Ask them if they are just touting Pay Per Click - anyone can guarantee you first page on Google if using adwords. For £45 per month I'll guarantee you first page on Google for 3 keywords, easily.

All I need to do is start an adwords campaign with 3 keywords at £1.50 per click each, and a budget of £1.50 a day. One will get clicked, every day, and then won't show until the next day. This'll cost you £45 for the month and you'll have been on the first page of Google at least once every day for your chosen keywords. See how easy it is for me to make such a claim?

Charlie - the only real text on your home page is "Click here to continue" - no mention of mobile, disco or Nottingham, so it's hardly suprising you're not in the SERPs for these terms. Lose the flash intro, and put your energy into optimising your page content rather than perfecting a huge list of meta keywords, which Google don't even read.


What a con! Such a waste of money. You can easierly manage it yourself, get a full FTP/user controlled site instead of vistaprint and your'll soon shoot up the rankings!

:agree:

[Charlie Brown]

Thanks Marc - I have turned off the flash intro. :approve:

I thought the text on my first page was relatively "mobile disco" related?

[Marc J]

Thanks Marc - I have turned off the flash intro. :approve:

I thought the text on my first page was relatively "mobile disco" related?

Not when you had your flash intro turned on, it wasn't!

[Charlie Brown]

Very true!

Right, next question, should I go to a professional website designer in Nottingham then?

I actually like the look of the Vista Print site - I think the text is near perfect, as are the pictures and videos....I want some classy and not tacky with flashing lights etc.

[Pe7e]

Why have you not listed yourself on the map that tops the page when you search for 'mobile disco nottingham'? It's free, and it will get you there.

[Charlie Brown]

Why have you not listed yourself on the map that tops the page when you search for 'mobile disco nottingham'? It's free, and it will get you there.

I have!

There are just so many.

I'm under "Wedding Disco Nottingham" - that works, but not "Mobile Disco" :(

[Marc J]

Right, next question, should I go to a professional website designer in Nottingham then?

Why Nottingham? I've got clients in New Zealand :D


I actually like the look of the Vista Print site - I think the text is near perfect, as are the pictures and videos....I want some classy and not tacky with flashing lights etc.

A good web designer will give you what you ask for!

BTW, this isn't a hint to contact me....I'm too busy :cool:

[DJWilson]

I have!

There are just so many.

I'm under "Wedding Disco Nottingham" - that works, but not "Mobile Disco" :(


Do what i did for maps:

Company name | Pro mobile disco....


Covers most searches followed by my website :)

[Spirits High]

A good web designer will give you what you ask for!

BTW, this isn't a hint to contact me....I'm too busy :cool:


I should hope so too :p :p ;)

[Alex]

Charlie...

You might want to look at a system called Joomla.... It's very very easy to use and can be optimised for SEO. --- Best of all, it's free!!

I've recently learnt that while google will look at the CONTENT in your site and usually ignore the Meta Keywords, they will also look at the following :

PAGE TITLE
PAGE DESCRIPTION

When competing with other sites, google will decide whether the keywords the user has typed in appear enough in your TITLE, DESCRIPT and CONTENT.

If they appear too much or too little, google will LOWER your ranking. It's tricky getting the right amount.
As most people have said, these companies that "guarantee" you a spot on the front, usually use adword campaigns.

My childrens entertainer, before I started managing him and his company, was paying out upto £500 a month for "google listings". If they think they can get away with it, they will scam you!!

There is another tip that most people don't use or know... and thats have multiple listings on google maps.
Cover WIDE and SPECIFIC points in your local area

Not sure if I can PM you on here, so I'll send you an email from your site as I have a few other tips for you :)

[Charlie Brown]

Alex! You are an absolute star! Thank you so much. :approve:

You will be able to PM soon, I will await the email and give that software a whirl. :)

[Corabar Entertainment]

.... have multiple listings on google maps. But that's against google's 'rules'

[Tom]

Can do the same with Wordpress, and in my opinion, is much easier to use

[Alex]

Ahhh but angela, you'll be suprised at how many people actually do it.....

I was researching my local area and surround areas.... There is one guy who has just over 50 listings in one county.

Techinically, it is against the rules... yes I will agree with you :)
But, to get your name out there, I say it's worth the risk hehehe

tom - Not used wordpress yet... however I've seen great reviews about it, so I'm going to experiment with it in the next few weeks... :)

[Charlie Brown]

I have just checked my page stats.

In the last 7 days 192 visitors.

Sadly, none via google WHATSOEVER.

A lot from this site actually..... :o

Argh, maybe I need to change from Vistaprint. Any good software I can have a play around with for free?

[JDB Entertainment]

Charlie,

May I suggest on your home page removing the telephone number from your feedback ;)

Also put your website through a spelling and grammar checker.

If I was a potential client and clicked on your website, bad spelling and grammar would make me think twice already!


Hope that Helps.

James

[Charlie Brown]

Also put your website through a spelling and grammar checker.



Is there a lot of problems? I thought I had sorted all that.

[DJWilson]

I have just checked my page stats.

In the last 7 days 192 visitors.

Sadly, none via google WHATSOEVER.

A lot from this site actually..... :o

Argh, maybe I need to change from Vistaprint. Any good software I can have a play around with for free?


Defo get a user/FTP site and check out http://net2.com/nvu/

[Tony Scott]

Is there a lot of problems? I thought I had sorted all that.

Yes there are a few, BTW it's (Are there a lot....) not (Is there a lot....) just to highlight the issue.... :D :)

[Alex]

Charlie... sent you a PM with some details on there :)

Have a play and see what ya can do :)

[Charlie Brown]

God, Alex your giving me a lot of help for a newbie. It's great. :approve: :)

Spelling and grammar problem is now solved. - Copied and pasted all the text onto Word...there were a few blips. ;)

I just can't be bothered to start all over again...it took me ages to get the text, layout etc, how I want it.

[Corabar Entertainment]

When did you buy a time machine?


Take a look at our latest feedback from 27th April 2010:

:p :D :p

[Alex]

I'm a very helpful person :)

Or at least I try to be.... LOL....

[Vectis]

But, to get your name out there, I say it's worth the risk hehehe


If you're serious about your business and using the web as a primary advertising mechanism, NEVER risk upsetting the almighty G.

Once they bump you, it's a long hard road back again.

Pay special attention to the rules. Sure, there's always folks around willing to exploit them, but once they're rumbled...

[Alex]

If you're serious about your business and using the web as a primary advertising mechanism, NEVER risk upsetting the almighty G.

Once they bump you, it's a long hard road back again.

Pay special attention to the rules. Sure, there's always folks around willing to exploit them, but once they're rumbled...

Completely agree! LOL ..... Completely! :)

The method I proposed is called Black Hat SEO.... BMW actually got removed from googles listings because they used Black Hat.

To be honest, using the CONTENT + (DESCRIPTION + PAGE TITLE) = RESULTS formula would be the best option to stay within the safe zone.

[Charlie Brown]

http://www.webcreationuk.com/websiteoptions2.htm
Something like that?

[Marc J]

My advice - don't do the multiple listings in Google Maps. Just because others do it and appear to get away with it, doesn't mean it's a good idea. Google aren't stupid, they'll cotton on to it sooner or later and when they do all these will disappear. There's already a lot of moaning about Google maps, multiple listings and Google not doing anything about fake reviews etc....they'll get around to tidying it up!

As others have mentioned get yourself a proper hosting account with full FTP access, then either try making your own site from scratch with free software (for example Nvu (http://net2.com/nvu/)), or try a CMS like Joomla (http://www.joomla.org/), Wordpress (http://wordpress.org/) or CMSMS (http://www.cmsmadesimple.org/). Most hosting packages *cough* come with one click installation of the first two CMSs I mentioned, plus more.

If you want a free hosting account to try out your options get in touch. But you'll need a spare domain to use, and it wouldn't stay free if you decide to keep it (although I'd help you move it if you didn't) ;)

[Alex]

Heya charlie....

How are things coming along? Thought I'd post a reply to catch up :)

[Charlie Brown]

I know you guys hate it - but I'm so tempted to give it a whirl.

http://www.keyworldmedia.co.uk/

5 key phrases, £99 a month - it can be dropped if I don't want all the phrases.

They work with Google Adwords and get it really cheap off them...selling it onto me.

I will be up on the first page in 48 hours.

No contract - I can cancel it at anytime.

What do you think?

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

What do you think?

Ask Martin.

[Vectis]

No!
:bang: :muppet: :bang: :muppet: :bang: :muppet: :bang: :muppet: :bang: :muppet: :bang: :muppet: :bang: :muppet: :bang: :muppet: :muppet: :muppet: :muppet: :muppet: :muppet: :muppet: :muppet: :muppet: :muppet: :muppet: :muppet:

Patience, Charlie.

[Mark Wild]

No!
:bang: :muppet: :bang: :muppet: :bang: :muppet: :bang: :muppet: :bang: :muppet: :bang: :muppet: :bang: :muppet: :bang: :muppet: :muppet: :muppet: :muppet: :muppet: :muppet: :muppet: :muppet: :muppet: :muppet: :muppet: :muppet:

Patience, Charlie.

That's a no Charlie :D

[Charlie Brown]

Ohhhhhhhhhh!

It's just like me using adwords but a lot cheaper!

I know it's throwing money away - but I'd be up there - Bang on the top page in the sponsored highlighted links!

Then after the first month - I could have just "wedding DJ Nottingham" - for £20, no more, no less!

I used to spend £80+ on Adwords!

[Charlie Brown]

No!
:bang: :muppet: :bang: :muppet: :bang: :muppet: :bang: :muppet: :bang: :muppet: :bang: :muppet: :bang: :muppet: :bang: :muppet: :muppet: :muppet: :muppet: :muppet: :muppet: :muppet: :muppet: :muppet: :muppet: :muppet: :muppet:

Patience, Charlie.

:lol:

Sorry Martin! :D :sj:

I'm not judging or questioning your knowledge - but why do you hate them so much? Have you had a bad experience with them or something? I know you have never been keen...is it because they are a rip off?

[Vectis]

Then after the first month - I could have just "wedding DJ Nottingham" - for £20, no more, no less!


What, like this which you get for £0 per month?

[Mark Wild]

:eek: Wedding Dj Nottingham has the same mobile number as you Charlie ;)

What award did you win Charlie? "Award winning wedding specialists"

[Charlie Brown]

And...;)

But I'm paying for the adwords on the first page!

[Charlie Brown]

:eek: Wedding Dj Nottingham has the same mobile number as you Charlie ;)

What award did you win Charlie? "Award winning wedding specialists"

I knew that would crop up. :sofa: :sofa: :sofa: :sofa:

DJ Mark. It's an award. ;)

[Mark Wild]

"Award winning wedding specialists" my :moon: :lol:

[James]

Anyone who guarantees to get you on the organic search results of page 1 are lying.

[Charlie Brown]

"Award winning wedding specialists" my :moon: :lol:

I'll bloody change it - if it's going to cause stress amongst the forum. :p

You have to drum up interest somehow. ;)

Especially with a terrible agency locally expanding.

Ohhh, quick tale before I go to my exam.

I called the agency yesterday, posing as a husband to be. She gave me all the info, wouldn't let me have a star cloth because it looks tacky - they prefer their logo frontage...and it came to £200, "but please bare in mind sir, this price will go up if we have to pay for the car park." "You must make sure that the best man comes up to the DJ every 20 minutes to make sure there is no damage to his gear and he is fed and watered or his energy levels may drop." :p

Anyhow, the funny side to it is - they've called back twice after (I haven't pick up) and I've just realised my answer message is - "Hello & thank you for call Charlie Brown's Entertainment. Please leave message and we'll endeavour to return your call in the hour...etc" They've left two messages and still not clocked! :lol:

Right... Psychology here we come! :sj:

[Mark Wild]

I'll bloody change it - if it's going to cause stress amongst the forum. :p

You have to drum up interest somehow. ;)

Low Charlie, very low, false advertising is against the law you know :lol: "Award Winning Wedding Specialists"

[Charlie Brown]

Low Charlie, very low, false advertising is against the law you know :lol: "Award Winning Wedding Specialists"

Have you got it?

Anyone can apply for it & it's an award.

I'm not lying about anything. :confused:

Am I?

[Vectis]

And...;)

But I'm paying for the adwords on the first page!

Yep. And the bit I highlighted in pink is nothing to do with Adwords.

And it's free.

And to be perfectly honest with you, I didn't even SEE your adwords listing until you just pointed it out in this thread! (maybe I just have ad-blindness being a heavy web user).

[Mark Wild]

Have you got it?

Anyone can apply for it & it's an award.

I'm not lying about anything. :confused:

Am I?

Chill your knickers Miss Slendertone, I'm messing :p :D :D

[Charlie Brown]

Chill your knickers Miss Slendertone, I'm messing :p :D :D

:sofa:

You mess with me too much!

Someone make him stop. :p

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

:sofa:

You mess with me too much!

Someone make him stop. :p

Go and do your exam, then you won't be able to read this. :D

[Mark Wild]

:sofa:

You mess with me too much!

Someone make him stop. :p

:lol:



Go and do your exam, then you won't be able to read this. :D

Listen to your MDD Daddy lol :D