Private Ed - Discuss.

[NKR]

The debate on Private Ed and State schools, I find interesting.


There is no debate private is a better option and I would like to save for my lad to go, but its not just the £9,000 p.a. fees its the trips, etc which would kill us. Plus we do intend to have more.
We have a uni fund going at present for the little one which should deliver about £20k by the time he is 18, but if we have more little ones that £20k will need to be split.

[Charlie Brown]

**I bet your all sick of hearing about schools** For one of my psychology case studies I need some opinions on this topic.

Here is a brief outline of my situation...

I have been at the High School since Year 6. I decided to leave at the end of Year 11 (GCSE'S) and try a different college. This college was more laid back and a wider choice of subjects. http://www.bilborough.ac.uk/ Also money was a major issue as we couldn't afford for me to stay on.

After two days at Bilborough - I knew this wasn't for me. I think it's just what your used to - but the playground turned into a giant ash tray at break and some people were even drinking cider!

The teachers were too laid back and in my Business set there weren't enough chairs for people to sit down! 38 pupils in that set...

I decided to leave and begged Granddad for some extra cash in the hope of returning back to the High School. http://www.nottinghamhigh.co.uk/

It turned out I did have some extra savings so it was up to me whether I wanted to spend it on education or not. The other grandchildren went on several holidays and brought a flash car etc. (which is tempting at 18)

It was a hard decession but I felt it would be more beneficial if I went back to school and got some decent A Levels - instead of blowing it on a van.

I'm finding it incredibly hard and challenging - but I love it. There are only 6 people in my English set which means I have access to a lot of extra help.

It's my second home I guess - everyone is one big family.

The debate on Private Ed and State schools, I find interesting. I'm not a snob nor do I come back from a wealthy background. Dad has a bit of cash but that's all...he refuses to pay ANYTHING towards my education and thinks it's a complete waste of time...Mum on the other hand doesn't - I live with her, Harvey and Steve in a small 3 bedroomed house..one lounge and one kitchen.

What do you think about it? Honest answers please! - Doesn't matter how harsh they are - it will make a good study!

[NKR]

I answered in the other thread.

My wife is a secondary teacher in a school that is bang on the national average in terms of results and OFSTED. We would love to send ours private.

In fact when we moved we paid a very large premium to get into the decent catchment areas for schools. All good Ofsted reports and close to 70% A to C's so well above average. How large a premium. Well the same house the other end of the town feeding not so good school would have been £30k cheaper.

P.S. I come from a working class background, came out of a mildy rough comprehensive where I was bullied for being bright. Got through a standard college and then had to work my backside off in a rough city centre bookies to make sure I could get through university financially, so no silver spoon here.

[Charlie Brown]

There is no debate private is a better option and I would like to save for my lad to go, but its not just the £9,000 p.a. fees its the trips, etc which would kill us. Plus we do intend to have more.
We have a uni fund going at present for the little one which should deliver about £20k by the time he is 18, but if we have more little ones that £20k will need to be split.

I have started a new thread but in reply - have you thought about a Bursery? That's what I have or if he is a bright spark a Scholarship?

I don't spend any more than the fee's p.a. - although a little more than what your suggested EVERYTHING is included that is compulsory - the other extras are just for enjoyment.

[Charlie Brown]

I answered in the other thread.
Well the same house the other end of the town feeding not so good school would have been £30k cheaper.

Wow! That's interesting. Where do you live again sorry? Something I can note down - I also answered on the other thread. :p

[NKR]

I have started a new thread but in reply - have you thought about a Bursery? That's what I have or if he is a bright spark a Scholarship?

I don't spend any more than the fee's p.a. - although a little more than what your suggested EVERYTHING is included that is compulsory - the other extras are just for enjoyment.

We would not qualify for bursary as our join income is too high, but a lot of it is eaten up on the house. Plus the rest of it is important as I wouldn't want to struggle to get him to private school only for him to be the kid that couldn't do anything as we couldn't afford it.


Wow! That's interesting. Where do you live again sorry? Something I can note down - I also answered on the other thread. :p

Leyland in Lancashire. You can expect to be paying a 10% premium on houses in the better catchment areas.
That gets out of control in London and is way higher, where one side of the street can be in one catchment and the other not and it is very strict.

Sorry done it again. I know multi quote.

[Corabar Entertainment]

I've moved the posts from the other thread in to here, as it was getting VERY confusing!!!

[NKR]

I've moved the posts from the other thread in to here, as it was getting VERY confusing!!!

Thanks - it confused me when they moved as I thought I had been up to my old multi quote failure tricks.

[Charlie Brown]

Leyland in Lancashire. You can expect to be paying a 10% premium on houses in the better catchment areas.
That gets out of control in London and is way higher, where one side of the street can be in one catchment and the other not and it is very strict.


I knew it was bad - but not to this extreme. I will do some digging.

Thanks for your reply. Appreciated. - Anyone else? :)

[NKR]

You may want to look for an evenig standard article from late last year regarding the increasing pressure on primary places in London due to people having to remove their kids from private due to the economic downturn. Also there was an article in one of the nationals earlier last year - may have been mail on Sunday (yes I know the extreme dramatisation on Sunday) regarding independent schools struggling due to numbers being down.

Charlie. I was thinking about your interests in business etc when I was eating my lunch. A business degree is a hiding to nothing as it is nothing in particular unless you have an end goal.

How about doing some research on corporate recovery. Try Pricewaterhouse Cooper and Deloittes web sites. It would probably interest you as its all about getting businesses back on their feet when they fail or picking over what is left to sort out creditors. If you like picking over other peoples businesses its not a bad route as the pay is quite steady too. Plus you can still do your disco's at weekends like I do. Best of both worlds.

[Marc J]

Plus we do intend to have more.
We have a uni fund going at present for the little one which should deliver about £20k by the time he is 18, but if we have more little ones that £20k will need to be split.

That's easy....pick the one you think is the smartest and put all your resources into that one. Let the other(s) slum it at a state school and a job at MacDonald's :D

That's what we intend doing, anyway...

[Charlie Brown]

That's what we intend doing, anyway...

Really!?

[Marc J]

Really!?

Of course!

Throwing money at your dumb kids is just :flog:

[Charlie Brown]

Oh right...

Is it really all about education at the end of the day?

There are so many other reasons as to why parents send their kids private...

[NKR]

Oh right...

Is it really all about education at the end of the day?

There are so many other reasons as to why parents send their kids private...

Charlie - No its not.

The ethos is different and although no doubt some issues are prevalent in both state and private schools, I would suggest that the worst issues are not present in private schools.

However, you can then get into arguements of why should everyone else be left to sink in the mire. But then its politics and off thread. ;)

[Shaun]

That's easy....pick the one you think is the smartest and put all your resources into that one. Let the other(s) slum it at a state school and a job at MacDonald's :D

That's what we intend doing, anyway...


Of course!

Throwing money at your dumb kids is just :flog:

:rofl: :lol:

[mikeee]

There is no debate private is a better option and I would like to save for my lad to go, but its not just the £9,000 p.a. fees its the trips, etc which would kill us.

£9K PA. Down South it's around £4.5K per term. The "trips" hurt, seriously hurt. In October my little cherub wants to do the 4 days "dance" trip to NY - £650.00 + Food and spending, then the day after they get back it's off to Morocco for 4 days to do Marrakech, Atlas Mountains and Sahara as a combined French and Geography trip, only £980.00.

Time to start mugging little old ladies again :)

[Charlie Brown]

Wow!

That's a) expensive b) a lot of trips.

It's £14 a year here - (I have it deducted)

I don't go on any trips as well. I went to France for the first time in year 7 but that was a treat from the grandparents.