It's bad out there ....real bad!!

[StarZSoundS]

My Partner was considering a pay-off redundancy package from her Full-Time employer.She was getting really wound up about what to do.

I thought I'd help her with her decision and looked in our local Situations Vacant......It is the first time I've done it in 5 years.Man.....its bad unless you want to be a care assistant in an Old Peoples Home or want to do a night shift in a petrol station.

5 years ago there might have been 10 I would have considered applying for....now there was absolutely nothing....ZILCHO :eek: :eek: :eek: :bang: :bang: :bang:

[CRAZY K]

My Partner was considering a pay-off redundancy package from her Full-Time employer.She was getting really wound up about what to do.

I thought I'd help her with her decision and looked in our local Situations Vacant......It is the first time I've done it in 5 years.Man.....its bad unless you want to be a care assistant in an Old Peoples Home or want to do a night shift in a petrol station.

5 years ago there might have been 10 I would have considered applying for....now there was absolutely nothing....ZILCHO :eek: :eek: :eek: :bang: :bang: :bang:

In the local Kettering newspaper round here there were NO jobs in the situations vacant when we looked for my son afew months ago--even the rubbish jobs dont exist anymore--maybe there was one though--stacking shelves in a Warehouse---obviously well paid :eek:

Agreed--its a lot worse than the pond life in Westminster will admit:mad:

[StarZSoundS]

In the local Kettering newspaper round here there were NO jobs in the situations vacant when we looked for my son afew months ago--even the rubbish jobs dont exist anymore--maybe there was one though--stacking shelves in a Warehouse---obviously well paid :eek:

Agreed--its a lot worse than the pond life in Westminster will admit:mad:



I was truly shocked Alan......

I must have been living in a bubble for 5 years!!

No vacancies at Wicksteed Park??I loved that place when I was growing up!!:) :) :)

[Megamix]

My eldest son graduated last year and is still looking - its tough

[StarZSoundS]

My eldest son graduated last year and is still looking - its tough

Even for Graduates??:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[BeerFunk]

It all depends which trade you're in really, you'll never struggle for a job in engineering or IT for example - and even if there are limited opportunities in the UK, there is a whole world out there.

That said, yes there is definitely a lack of jobs at the moment, but it is expected to pick up once this 'recession' passes.

[CRAZY K]

I was truly shocked Alan......

I must have been living in a bubble for 5 years!!

No vacancies at Wicksteed Park??I loved that place when I was growing up!!:) :) :)

Not that I am aware of---:eek:

Theres plenty of cover version bands doing the rounds there though--

I really thought Elvis was dead you know;)

Yes I thought like many that at least my son could get a fairly menial job to see him through until things pick up----thats looking less likely every month that passes.

Its a shame he doesnt like Djing--- we have a stack of equipment and Lights here lying idle some Saturday nights :eek: :eek: :eek:


and even if there are limited opportunities in the UK, there is a whole world out there.



I thought there was a "World" recession though;)

One of my sons works in China--

I wouldnt recommend it personally if you want to live a long healthy life:eek:

[BeerFunk]

I thought there was a "World" recession though;) Thay'd have you believe that, yes :D


One of my sons works in China--

I wouldnt recommend it personally if you want to live a long healthy life:eek:Not sure about China, but a couple of my schoolmates are based in Dubai just now, and one of them was in Nigeria for a couple of years too. Both went into civil engineering, and I have to say I'm envious, as I'm still rooted here :(

[CRAZY K]

Thay'd have you believe that, yes :D

Not sure about China, but a couple of my schoolmates are based in Dubai just now, and one of them was in Nigeria for a couple of years too. Both went into civil engineering, and I have to say I'm envious, as I'm still rooted here :(

Im sure about China;)

Im sure highly qualified professionals would do well abroad---its the rest that have a problem:eek:

[StarZSoundS]

Im sure about China;)

Im sure highly qualified professionals would do well abroad---its the rest that have a problem:eek:


A lot of people returning back from holiday destinations in the Med....having blown cash on financial ventures out there(bars,clubs,etc):eek: :eek: :eek:

[Pe7e]

Im sure about China;)

Im sure highly qualified professionals would do well abroad---its the rest that have a problem:eek:

There are well paid jobs in all parts of the developing world, but the good ex - pat packages are invariably recruited in the West, by companies holding contracts abroad, not by people trying to get hired after traveling to these countries. Apart from visa, work permits, language difficulties, reserved occupations, and a multitude of other restrictions. if you do happen to overcome these, you will only receive a 'local' wage, which in places like China and the Far East, don't support much of a lifestyle. I know several qualified English teachers working in Asia, who are only earning around £750 a month (and no benefits) On the other hand, I know a guy from Manchester who is working in the same region, but hired in the UK on a fixed term contract in the oil industry, who earning huge amounts of money, (paid in £s to a UK bank) and supporting a very, very nice lifestyle.

[CRAZY K]

There are well paid jobs in all parts of the developing world, but the good ex - pat packages are invariably recruited in the West, by companies holding contracts abroad, not by people trying to get hired after traveling to these countries. Apart from visa, work permits, language difficulties, reserved occupations, and a multitude of other restrictions. if you do happen to overcome these, you will only receive a 'local' wage, which in places like China and the Far East, don't support much of a lifestyle. I know several qualified English teachers working in Asia, who are only earning around £750 a month (and no benefits) On the other hand, I know a guy from Manchester who is working in the same region, but hired in the UK on a fixed term contract in the oil industry, who earning huge amounts of money, (paid in £s to a UK bank) and supporting a very, very nice lifestyle.

Correct, one of my sons is Teaching in China but improving his prospects by obtaining a Masters.

The pay is not great and no benefits, however hopefully he will progress.

[NKR]

It is tough out there. In property you tend to see the fluctuations as less bodies means less need for commerical accommodation.

The industrial side of things seems to be levelling off, but new activity is not great.
Offices are knackered for the next two to three years. We have started taking the government break notices in which was to be expected. When you speak to their property teams to look at regearing as they clearly needed the space at one time its not what you want to hear. So where are you putting these folks the answer you get is a stock whereever we can squeeze them. Digging deeper into it with them you get the feeling they wont have to worry about placing these folk for long. I am also doing lots of downsizing regears to keep our tenants in business as they just don't need the space as they are shedding staff.

What is also telling is we are seeing JCP enquiries in most major centres (Job Centre Plus). They tend to be looking to double their floor space in most towns, which is a telling story.

I know of many contractors, trades, turn key fit out specialists that unless business picks up soon the banks are pulling the plug.

The tip of the iceberg is sticking up and its an expensive smoke and mirrors show keeping the rest hidden (where do you think £178 billion year goes). Once the election has passed then we will see it in full force.

We just need to wait and see if the pounds weakness can lead to increased exports, but todays figures are not showing that yet. However, we could be in the order/production time lag and exports may increase in the coming months as delivery is realised.

As for Dubai. That little debt financed orgy is going to come unstuck soon. You will see a real slowing in the property boom over there and the wheels will come off big time. The recent wobble in repayments has really knocked the apitite for that debt as how many times will Abu Dabi step in and pick up the pieces.

[NKR]

Im sure about China;)

Im sure highly qualified professionals would do well abroad---its the rest that have a problem:eek:

Don't bank on it I fail the points system for Australia. However, if I was a hairdresser or my lesser qualified cousin the estate agent I would get in.

So I would have to consider deskilling myself to go to Australia.

Multiquote again - sorry.

[MagicMusic]

What is also telling is we are seeing JCP enquiries in most major centres (Job Centre Plus). They tend to be looking to double their floor space in most towns, which is a telling story.

Don't read too much in to that, its more to do with a full restructuring of the DWP rather than them needing more space to deal with all the extra jobseekers.

[NKR]

Don't read too much in to that, its more to do with a full restructuring of the DWP rather than them needing more space to deal with all the extra jobseekers.

I was involved in the JCP lease and space restructuring in the early 2000's as Land Securities Trillium's (Just good old Trillium back then before the Land Sec deal) property adviser under their Prime contract.

I would suggest it seems very odd that we are seeing government funded office space being reduced, yet JCP are increasing their space and therefore overheads during a time of severe budget defecits.