Budget Parties..No Charge for the Venue..

[StarZSoundS]

I have a couple of Venues where I can lead customers too where they don't charge at all for the use of the room:D :D :D

Whilst they are not the Royal Albert Hall they are perfectly adequate for a celebration.The Venues take the view that instead of taking £200/300 a night.. with a party they can sometimes take £1500.:) :)

It works for me....and them too.Its also free advertising for both of us.

People tend to drift back to Pubs/Clubs where they've had a good time!!

[WWDJ]

My local social club just charges £30 for the extra bar staff and does buffets at silly money. I get plenty of work off the back of this, and although it isn't the best paying it is very convenient :)

[paulg]

I have never ever understood why people charge for rooms or at the very least why they don't refund a charge once the bar has taken enough money.

The price of a pint includes overheads such as bar staff, room costs so why pay twice?

[StarZSoundS]

I have never ever understood why people charge for rooms or at the very least why they don't refund a charge once the bar has taken enough money.

The price of a pint includes overheads such as bar staff, room costs so why pay twice?



He has a point!!;) ;) ;)

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

I seem to have wandered into a thread from the 1970s....I wonder which way is out?

[NKR]

I seem to have wandered into a thread from the 1970s....I wonder which way is out?

Just give it a few years Gene and you will head south down the M6 away from Manchester and to London where you will acquire your Quatro and it will be the 80's

If you want a more fun route you could head over the A57 Snakes Pass towards Sheffield and pick up the M1 to London.

[Daryll]

My local club has the hall attached , but , the hall is owned by the Royal British Legion , so the club cannot charge for use of the hall , but they ask for a donation.

right where's my Cortina mk2 and my tank top :D


Daryll

[paulg]

I seem to have wandered into a thread from the 1970s....I wonder which way is out?

Mmm, from a bloke with mirrorballs?

[StarZSoundS]

Mmm, from a bloke with mirrorballs?

:run: :run: :run: :run: :run: :run: :run: :run:

[Disco Tech Liverpool]

I have never ever understood why people charge for rooms or at the very least why they don't refund a charge once the bar has taken enough money.

The price of a pint includes overheads such as bar staff, room costs so why pay twice?

Agreed, I do a venue which charges £80 for the small room and £100 for the bigger room, the prices are way more expensive. Carling pint in the pub is £2.30 and in the function room £2.80. I think these pubs need a reality check, they moan that they ain't making money but surely by offering the free room hire you are garuntiing more partys and that means a lot more people than you will get in your main pub bar.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Mmm, from a bloke with mirrorballs?

Which are a timeless classic effect.

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Which are a timeless classic effect.

:agree:

[discomobiledj]

You can't knock the power of the mirror balls!

[rob1963]

I have never ever understood why people charge for rooms or at the very least why they don't refund a charge once the bar has taken enough money.

The price of a pint includes overheads such as bar staff, room costs so why pay twice?

I can completely understand why people charge to hire out rooms.

If I owned a building with a function room & had the chance of just making money on the drink or also charging room hire & making a couple of hundred pounds extra each night, I know which option I'd choose!

If the room was hired out just once a week & I charged for it, that would be more than £10,000 extra income each year!

[djdave01]

Theres a pub not far from me that doesnt charge for the function room, ive worked in it a couple of times.
The main problem with free rooms is that they tend to attract the very low end of the market gigs, which are either full of idiots or hardly anyone shows up.
At a recent 30th birthday in the free venue, only 10 people showed up. Another a few years ago got stopped at 10pm because of fighting.
I always stick to my normal prices when i get offered work in these free venues, as a result i dont actually work in them very often.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

The main problem with free rooms is that they tend to attract the very low end of the market gigs

Exactly. :)

[StarZSoundS]

The main problem with free rooms is that they tend to attract the very low end of the market gigs, which are either full of idiots or hardly anyone shows up.


Thats a bit of a strong generialisation......If you pay nothing for your function room you must be an idiot.There are some that would justifiably suggest the complete reverse is the case!!:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[djdave01]

Thats a bit of a strong generialisation......If you pay nothing for your function room you must be an idiot.There are some that would justifiably suggest the complete reverse is the case!!:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

maybe just my experiance mate, id say over 30% of the gigs ive done in free function rooms have either had trouble at them, or have finished early due to hardly anyone turning up.

[StarZSoundS]

maybe just my experiance mate, id say over 30% of the gigs ive done in free function rooms have either had trouble at them, or have finished early due to hardly anyone turning up.

Not the same here Mate....

Just because people want value doesn't make them rough in my opinion.

We have a Netto in the village and its always stacked out with the Fur Coat and No Knickers Brigade!!

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[MagicMusic]

Pretty much anywhere I can think of that offers free function hire is a complete dive or rough as :Censored:

So it goes without saying that the locals / regulars reflect the place and therefor a higher risk of trouble or incident.

EDIT: There are a couple of exceptions

[DazzyD]

I have never ever understood why people charge for rooms or at the very least why they don't refund a charge once the bar has taken enough money.

The price of a pint includes overheads such as bar staff, room costs so why pay twice?

Does the price of a pint pay for the the extra electricity that my rig uses over the course of the gig? I think not. If not many people turn up and don't spend much per head then, after overheads, the venue will end up making a loss. And I once did a show (an engagement party) where only 6 guests turned up. Bet the venue were glad they didn't offer free room hire that night!


Pretty much anywhere I can think of that offers free function hire is a complete dive or rough as :Censored:

So it goes without saying that the locals / regulars reflect the place and therefor a higher risk of trouble or incident.

EDIT: There are a couple of exceptions

I have to agree. Most venue's round here seem to ask for a deposit that is refundable after the show providing there has been no trouble and the room is in the same condition it was before the function. This seems to work as the client then has a financial reason to ensure there are no problems.

[StarZSoundS]

Does the price of a pint pay for the the extra electricity that my rig uses over the course of the gig?


In all the years i've been doing this the amount of leccy I use has never been an issue....

It might be a fiver ...perhaps a tenner for the bigger rigs....don't think its a problem??;) ;) ;)

[DazzyD]

In all the years i've been doing this the amount of leccy I use has never been an issue....

It might be a fiver ...perhaps a tenner for the bigger rigs....don't think its a problem??;) ;) ;)

It is if they only sell a tenner's worth of beer! ;)

The point I was making was that opening up a room in a venue has operating costs be it the costs of additional bar staff, cleaning staff, electricity, heating, security, etc. A venue that offer's free room hire does so in the hope that that they make enough sales to cover these costs and make a profit on top. In theory, the more people in the venue, the more money they should make. But what if they are opening up the room to, as was in my case, 8 people? I know it's unlikely but, as I've seen it happen, totally possible.

If the venue make a charge to cover their costs then, to me, that is totally justified. It's nothing personal, just business!

[StarZSoundS]

that they make enough sales to cover these costs and make a profit on top. But what if they are opening up the room to, as was in my case, 8 people? I know it's unlikely but, as I've seen it happen, totally possible.



Even in this precarious financial situation....its not likely to send them bust....;) ;) ;) ;)

[AnthonyG]

My local pub asked me to do a karaoke and disco night, but then never marketted it! When i turned up they asked ME how many people i've got coming! Then when only about 10-15 people filled the pub (they popped in for a quick pint whilst waiting for a minibus to another party), they left the pub with about 6!

No agreement was made for me to market the event, i was doing a favour and covering my costs.

But i'm still learning!

[Corabar Entertainment]

My local pub asked me to do a karaoke and disco night, but then never marketted it! When i turned up they asked ME how many people i've got coming! Then when only about 10-15 people filled the pub (they popped in for a quick pint whilst waiting for a minibus to another party), they left the pub with about 6!

No agreement was made for me to market the event, i was doing a favour and covering my costs.

But i'm still learning!Oh yes! So many pubs think they don't need to market anything and just expect it to happen overnight without any work.

BTW: If you are doing the marketing, it will make you a 'promoter' and you should have licences to do that

[DiscoPromotions]

BTW: If you are doing the marketing, it will make you a 'promoter' and you should have licences to do that

I thought you just needed a licence to hold something like a boxing match...?

[Corabar Entertainment]

Been a long time since I looked into it, but check out PPL's website for more info

[DiscoPromotions]

Been a long time since I looked into it, but check out PPL's website for more info

had a quick look, nothing so far... searching via google.

[Corabar Entertainment]

:confused: I can't even find anything on there immediately about the old 'Mobile DJ Licence'... let alone anything else!

[simonp]

BTW: If you are doing the marketing, it will make you a 'promoter' and you should have licences to do that

Surely you don't need a seperate licence to throw a few flyers around and a put a few posters up in order to rustle up some extra interest Angela?

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Surely you don't need a seperate licence to throw a few flyers around and a put a few posters up in order to rustle up some extra interest Angela?

I'm pretty sure if you were selling tickets, then you used to need a licence. Not sure about now.

[Corabar Entertainment]

The way they used to define 'promoter' used to have quite a wide definition... but I'm not sure about now: as I said, it's been a long time since I looked into this, but many years ago, if you were handling the marketing and receiving financial gain, then you were classed as a 'promoter' and needed a licence (It's something we actually took legal advice on)