Is there a clever way round this....please.

[StarZSoundS]

I recently bought a house on a main throughfare....

Hundreds of people drive past it daily.It was formerly a Hairdressers....in fact the Salon is mow my Kitchen!!

The old sign is still up but i have painted over it.It is about 12ft x 3ft.

I wanted to proffesionally raise a sign along the lines of...

The Home of StarZSoundZ Entertainments...for all your Entertainment requirements...please call in for a booking form or phone,,,,etc,,,etc


My first call to planning in the council was pretty negative...anybody with any experience in this field that can help me??

Once I get it past the Council....I will have to get it past my Partner...who isn't very keen.:eek: :eek: :eek:

[CRAZY K]

I recently bought a house on a main throughfare....

Hundreds of people drive past it daily.It was formerly a Hairdressers....in fact the Salon is mow my Kitchen!!

The old sign is still up but i have painted over it.It is about 12ft x 3ft.

I wanted to proffesionally raise a sign along the lines of...

The Home of StarZSoundZ Entertainments...for all your Entertainment requirements...please call in for a booking form or phone,,,,etc,,,etc


My first call to planning in the council was pretty negative...anybody with any experience in this field that can help me??

Once I get it past the Council....I will have to get it past my Partner...who isn't very keen.:eek: :eek: :eek:

Will you be featured on a crime TV program sometime soon after the burglars clean you out or steal your van/ transport :eek: :eek: :eek:

[StarZSoundS]

Will you be featured on a crime TV program sometime soon after the burglars clean you out or steal your van/ transport :eek: :eek: :eek:



Not a problem Alan.....My gear is stored at my Residency with whom I have a fantastic rapport.....It is 1 minuites walk away!!


I know where your coming from tho!!;) ;) ;)


Sadly the only thing they could steal is me....and at my age you welcome anybody taking an interest in you:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[NKR]

You will need advertising consent from the planners due to the fact you are putting an advert on a residential property. The previous signage will have been ancillary to an A1 consent on the property which I assume you have had shifted to C3 as it is a residence.
Under C3 you are allowed to run a small business at home, which you are doing, so under this guise you could claim it is signage for your business and it would probably be rubber stamped.
However, by taking this route you would open yourself to the spectres of business rates on a proportion of your property and then potentially bringing your property into the capital gains regime as it is a partial business asset and any gains from the point of it coming in and being sold could be taxable.

[Booche]

You will need advertising consent from the planners due to the fact you are putting an advert on a residential property. The previous signage will have been ancillary to an A1 consent on the property which I assume you have had shifted to C3 as it is a residence.
Under C3 you are allowed to run a small business at home, which you are doing, so under this guise you could claim it is signage for your business and it would probably be rubber stamped.
However, by taking this route you would open yourself to the spectres of business rates on a proportion of your property and then potentially bringing your property into the capital gains regime as it is a partial business asset and any gains from the point of it coming in and being sold could be taxable.

:agree: :sofa:

[StarZSoundS]

You will need advertising consent from the planners due to the fact you are putting an advert on a residential property. The previous signage will have been ancillary to an A1 consent on the property which I assume you have had shifted to C3 as it is a residence.
Under C3 you are allowed to run a small business at home, which you are doing, so under this guise you could claim it is signage for your business and it would probably be rubber stamped.
However, by taking this route you would open yourself to the spectres of business rates on a proportion of your property and then potentially bringing your property into the capital gains regime as it is a partial business asset and any gains from the point of it coming in and being sold could be taxable.

Wow......worms ....can of .....opening.

Thanks Neil.;) ;) ;)

[Ukbride Owner]

I think the answer is a big van fully signed up, parked at the front of your house.

I think I am right in saying that if the sign is on wheels then no planning consent is required.

Do you have a big wheelbarrow?

[StarZSoundS]

I think the answer is a big van fully signed up, parked at the front of your house.

I think I am right in saying that if the sign is on wheels then no planning consent is required.

Do you have a big wheelbarrow?


Good idea......

You're becoming a bit of an all-rounder.We'll have you doing gigs next!!

Anyone near to Julian prepared to take him along...to see how the Prize Guys do it!!!:devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:

[NKR]

I think the answer is a big van fully signed up, parked at the front of your house.

I think I am right in saying that if the sign is on wheels then no planning consent is required.

Do you have a big wheelbarrow?

Not necessarilly correct. Anything on wheels that is deemed to cause a distraction could have enforcement notice served upon it!

Martin.

http://www.communities.gov.uk/documents/planningandbuilding/pdf/326679.pdf

This is the guide to advertising consents. You will note my comment regarding the business advertisement previously on your building coming under deemed permission.

[James]

If it was me, i'd put it up anyway, on the grounds that it's your house, and you can do what the hell you like with it, despite what the council or the government says.

It'll definitely make the local papers, and who knows, maybe even the nationals, all good for business.

[Corabar Entertainment]

If it was me, i'd put it up anyway, on the grounds that it's your house, and you can do what the hell you like with it, despite what the council or the government says.Hmmmm, is that how you think about all laws and regulations?

[StarZSoundS]

Hmmmm, is that how you think about all laws and regulations?


However Angie....

What allows them to distinguish between my business and a Hairdressers Business???As long as i'm legit its fair play isn't it??:confused: :confused:

[NKR]

However Angie....

What allows them to distinguish between my business and a Hairdressers Business???As long as i'm legit its fair play isn't it??:confused: :confused:

The fact that your premises will be classed as C3 residential and not an A1 business use and therefore paying a significantly lower tax as residential council tax rather than business rates.

Beware you can be fined up to £2,500 for flagrant abuse of the outdoor advertising consent.

[Corabar Entertainment]

However Angie....

What allows them to distinguish between my business and a Hairdressers Business???As long as i'm legit its fair play isn't it??:confused: :confused:


You will need advertising consent from the planners due to the fact you are putting an advert on a residential property. The previous signage will have been ancillary to an A1 consent on the property which I assume you have had shifted to C3 as it is a residence.
Under C3 you are allowed to run a small business at home, which you are doing, so under this guise you could claim it is signage for your business and it would probably be rubber stamped.
However, by taking this route you would open yourself to the spectres of business rates on a proportion of your property and then potentially bringing your property into the capital gains regime as it is a partial business asset and any gains from the point of it coming in and being sold could be taxable.That's what!

[NKR]

If it was me, i'd put it up anyway, on the grounds that it's your house, and you can do what the hell you like with it, despite what the council or the government says.

It'll definitely make the local papers, and who knows, maybe even the nationals, all good for business.

Planning is designed to stop idiots plastering crap all over their houses so the place looks presentable to all that live in a town.
Some towns are however beyond help though, so you could probably get away with it!

[James]

Hmmmm, is that how you think about all laws and regulations?

Quite a lot of laws and regulations, yes

[James]

Planning is designed to stop idiots plastering crap all over their houses so the place looks presentable to all that live in a town.
Some towns are however beyond help though, so you could probably get away with it!

That i understand, but you can park a 200ft truck outside your house with an advertising board on, but can't put up a 6ft sign?

Just because it's law doesn't mean it's right, that's the way i see it anyway guys, i'm not having a go or anything like that.

[NKR]

That i understand, but you can park a 200ft truck outside your house with an advertising board on, but can't put up a 6ft sign?

Just because it's law doesn't mean it's right, that's the way i see it anyway guys, i'm not having a go or anything like that.

You can't park a truck outside your house with an advert on it. That is not legal - it has to be normally mobile, ie moving - this is in the planning law to cover buses, van sign writing and lorries that are moving about. Putting wheels on it and leaving it sat outside your house is not legal.

How about your next door neighbour sticks a huge neon sign on his house saying. "INTERNET PORN PROVIDER - WE DO GREAT :Censored: :Censored: ". Sure you would love that.

Thats why we have laws on signage.

[DJ Jules]

You can't park a truck outside your house with an advert on it. That is not legal - it has to be normally mobile, ie moving - this is in the planning law to cover buses, van sign writing and lorries that are moving about. Putting wheels on it and leaving it sat outside your house is not legal.

How about your next door neighbour sticks a huge neon sign on his house saying. "INTERNET PORN PROVIDER - WE DO GREAT :Censored: :Censored: ". Sure you would love that.

Thats why we have laws on signage.

I've been trying to work out how Cash4Cars got permission to stick a 8' x 2' sign up on the corner of the road nearby. I suspect the answer is that they haven't as their signs have been popping up plastered to fences and walls all across Bristol.

Julian

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

You will need advertising consent from the planners due to the fact you are putting an advert on a residential property. The previous signage will have been ancillary to an A1 consent on the property which I assume you have had shifted to C3 as it is a residence.
Under C3 you are allowed to run a small business at home, which you are doing, so under this guise you could claim it is signage for your business and it would probably be rubber stamped.
However, by taking this route you would open yourself to the spectres of business rates on a proportion of your property and then potentially bringing your property into the capital gains regime as it is a partial business asset and any gains from the point of it coming in and being sold could be taxable.

And it will look naff. :D

[NKR]

And it will look naff. :D

Hence why the planner are probably not being overly receptive as it could set a dangerous precedent.