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djlowry
09-05-2010, 02:06 PM
Looking at getting a new setup. Budget is around €1500.
Will be using it for parties/weddings in pubs/function rooms etc.

Looking at getting a subwoofer and 2 tops.
Have seen these on thomann
http://www.thomann.de/ie/kme_versio_vb_15t.htm
http://www.thomann.de/ie/kme_versio_vl_6i.htm

Anyone have any opinions/advice?

Excalibur
09-05-2010, 02:36 PM
Sofa time again lads!!! :D :D :D :D Let's see if I can find a similar rig from the ones I know best.

Sub: This is an absolute stormer.
http://www.classd.ltd.uk/pro-audio-m-15_professional-concert-bass-bin.html

Tops: Space conscious option
http://www.classd.ltd.uk/1000w-10-jac10_pair-of_pa-speakers-class-d.html

These are still plastic, 12" drivers, very good tops.

http://www.classd.ltd.uk/1200w_pair-of-class-d-12-cd12p_pa-speakers.html

Bigger, bassier, and heavier
http://www.classd.ltd.uk/cd12sp-class-d_pa-speakers_pair-1200w-max.html

That's what I have experience of. Somebody else will soon be along with other suggestions, including going active. :D :D :D

Whatever is suggested to you, for heavens sake, go and hear it before you buy it. That's rules one, two and three.

A1DL
09-05-2010, 02:41 PM
Anyone have any opinions/advice?

If matching one pair of tops with one pair of those 15" subs, I'd look at a slightly larger top box, although having said that, I couldn't see how loud the subs play anywhere on that spec.

A pair of 116dB (cont/peak/measured/calculated/who knows?) tops aren't going to be a flexible all-round multi application box.

Excalibur
09-05-2010, 02:43 PM
If matching one pair of tops with one pair of those 15" subs, I'd look at a slightly larger top box, although having said that, I couldn't see how loud the subs play anywhere on that spec.

A pair of 116dB (cont/peak/measured/calculated/who knows?) tops aren't going to be a flexible all-round multi application box.

Wahey, Excalibur gets one up on Tony!! :D One sub only proposed, Tony. :p :D :D :D :D ( No idea whether that's better or worse, mind. :o :o :o )

A1DL
09-05-2010, 02:48 PM
Wahey, Excalibur gets one up on Tony!! :D One sub only proposed, Tony. :p :D :D :D :D ( No idea whether that's better or worse, mind. :o :o :o )

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djlowry
09-05-2010, 02:49 PM
I used a rig recently that consisted of 2 KME tops off 1 KME subwoofer. The tops were smaller than the ones I've listed. Sound was very nice so that's why I was gonna go down a similar route.

I know I've opened a can of worms here!

Excalibur
09-05-2010, 02:56 PM
I used a rig recently that consisted of 2 KME tops off 1 KME subwoofer. The tops were smaller than the ones I've listed. Sound was very nice so that's why I was gonna go down a similar route.

I know I've opened a can of worms here!

You won't be the first, and you won't be the last. ;) Just keep asking till you're happy. .

djlowry
09-05-2010, 03:10 PM
Cheers. It's always best to ask people more knowledgeable even if I'm leaving myself open for ridicule!

Also seen this:
http://www.thomann.de/ie/rcf_art_310_aart_705_as_bundle.htm

I've had the ART300 and been happy with the sound off them.
I'd like to stick with a brand I know.
There's also a sound centre nearby which stocks must of the good brands so I will get to hear before I buy! I've seen the Class D stuff reccomended countless times but don't know anywhere that stocks them.

Oh and also is the amp rating on bin same as a 'normal' amplifier. Here it's 800W but in the past I've used 1200W, 1400W etc.

Excalibur
09-05-2010, 03:22 PM
Cheers. It's always best to ask people more knowledgeable even if I'm leaving myself open for ridicule!

Also seen this:
http://www.thomann.de/ie/rcf_art_310_aart_705_as_bundle.htm

I've had the ART300 and been happy with the sound off them.
I'd like to stick with a brand I know.
There's also a sound centre nearby which stocks must of the good brands so I will get to hear before I buy! I've seen the Class D stuff reccomended countless times but don't know anywhere that stocks them.
Oh and also is the amp rating on bin same as a 'normal' amplifier. Here it's 800W but in the past I've used 1200W, 1400W etc.

Usually I suggest a trip to Mansfield, but in your case I'll make an exception!! :D :D

You will not be disappoimted with RCF kit. ( unless you hear a Class D system beside it, for less than a third of the price. :D :D :D :D :D )

djlowry
09-05-2010, 03:27 PM
You will not be disappoimted with RCF kit. ( unless you hear a Class D system beside it, for less than a third of the price. :D :D :D :D :D )

A third of the price?? Ah jaysus! I'll have to find somewhere that will ship it. Might have to go over to listen first!
Have always been impressed with RCF though

Excalibur
09-05-2010, 03:36 PM
A third of the price?? Ah jaysus! I'll have to find somewhere that will ship it. Might have to go over to listen first!
Have always been impressed with RCF though

Well I might have exaggerated just a tad. Only a tad mind. :o :o With amps and a crossover, my Class D rig would cost about £1100, so not so far off the price of the RCF rig. RCF will always be louder, but in the opinion of many folk, won't necessarily sound better. That RCF rig you showed sounds good value. However: I'd still be inclined to ring Class D, it's definitely worth the price of a phone call.

djlowry
09-05-2010, 04:04 PM
Had a look at the website. They definitely have good value.
RCF rig is expensive compared to Class D stuff. I don't mind paying for something that fills my needs. But if I can get value elsewhere...

Excalibur
09-05-2010, 04:23 PM
Had a look at the website. They definitely have good value.
RCF rig is expensive compared to Class D stuff. I don't mind paying for something that fills my needs. But if I can get value elsewhere...

Sound is personal. There are folk on here who love Peavey. There are those who hate it with a vengeance. Same with Mackie. RCF doesn't have many against it, except for cost, and even then they still reckon it's good value for money. Whatever you narrow it down to LISTEN FIRST. Good luck.