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rob1963
06-06-2010, 03:21 PM
I've recently heard the sayings "People buy people" & "People buy people first" several times, which is something I certainly agree with.

Does this mean that those of us who DON'T have a pic & some personal info on our website are missing a trick?

Discuss.

:D

Excalibur
06-06-2010, 03:22 PM
I've recently heard the sayings "People buy people" & "People buy people first" several times, which is something I agree with.

Does this mean that those of us who DON'T have a pic & some personal info on our website are missing a trick?

Discuss.

:D
You've posted pics of your rig. You still get lots of work. It's not a phone a friend question. ;)

Penfold42
06-06-2010, 03:24 PM
I would if I could find a wide angle lens....:sj:

Don't like it.....most of my work comes from word of mouth, I like it that way....so am I missing a trick....nah, don't think so. :)

Vectis
06-06-2010, 03:37 PM
Not sure whether I agree or disagree with the concept.

However I've lost count of the number of times I've wandered aimlessly into a pub for a customer meeting and been approached by a B or G and told that they recognised me from the website pic.

So I guess people do look; whether it encourages or discourages them is another matter.

Tony Scott
06-06-2010, 03:48 PM
I only have one picture of me on my website and I'm fairly certain that people don't book me because of it?... maybe I should include the 2nd black-tie picture too... discuss! :D

Penfold42
06-06-2010, 03:54 PM
That's one cheesy photo.....:D

Tony Scott
06-06-2010, 03:56 PM
That's one cheesy photo.....:D

:o :o yeah I'm pleased to say that this is the first time it's been used :o :o :D

Excalibur
06-06-2010, 03:57 PM
:o :o yeah I'm pleased to say that this is the first time it's been used :o :o :D

Hopefully the last, also. ;)

Charlie Brown
06-06-2010, 04:04 PM
Since the new photo on my site - I've had one lady comment.

She booked me yesterday for a 2 hour kids party. Easy £139 - because I look "fun" "energetic" & "young."

:confused:

Penfold42
06-06-2010, 04:06 PM
:o :o yeah I'm pleased to say that this is the first time it's been used :o :o :D


Hopefully the last, also. ;)
:lol:

Since the new photo on my site - I've had one lady comment.

She booked me yesterday for a 2 hour kids party. Easy £139 - because I look "fun" "energetic" & "young."

:confused:

Specsavers?

Tony Scott
06-06-2010, 04:06 PM
Since the new photo on my site - I've had one lady comment.

She booked me yesterday for a 2 hour kids party. Easy £139 - because I look "fun" "energetic" & "young."

:confused:

I'd disagree and say you look about 25 and very ORANGE... :D

wensleydale
06-06-2010, 04:07 PM
I agree with the concept, but not the photo bit.

As I run a single show business then what I put into it makes a huge amount of difference but I dont see what difference it would make if there was a photo of me.

The overarching theory is why I always try and get people to contact me by phone rather than just looking at a price list or sending a mail- only verbally do I think you really get a chance to convey the passion, experience etc etc that you may have,

rob1963
06-06-2010, 04:08 PM
Not sure whether I agree or disagree with the concept.

Okay, here's a scenario to think about.

Somebody rings up two discos to make enquiries. They both appear to be offering the same service & they both charge the same price.

What would swing it as to which one they booked?

Wouldn't it be the person they were speaking to, how they came across & what they thought of them?

CRAZY K
06-06-2010, 04:19 PM
I've recently heard the sayings "People buy people" & "People buy people first" several times, which is something I certainly agree with.

Does this mean that those of us who DON'T have a pic & some personal info on our website are missing a trick?

Discuss.

:D

Add video clips of you entertaining the public out there--and yes you might be--unless your prices are very cheap---yours are not.

I have secured many gigs this year on the strength of vid clips.

Thats my experience

rob1963
06-06-2010, 04:23 PM
Since the new photo on my site - I've had one lady comment.

She booked me yesterday for a 2 hour kids party. Easy £139 - because I look "fun" "energetic" & "young."

I hope you put her right on the first two!

:D

wensleydale
06-06-2010, 04:29 PM
Okay, here's a scenario to think about.

Somebody rings up two discos to make enquiries. They both appear to be offering the same service & they both charge the same price.

What would swing it as to which one they booked?

Wouldn't it be the person they were speaking to, how they came across & what they thought of them?

Yes- very much so.

CRAZY K
06-06-2010, 04:30 PM
Okay, here's a scenario to think about.

Somebody rings up two discos to make enquiries. They both appear to be offering the same service & they both charge the same price.

What would swing it as to which one they booked?

Wouldn't it be the person they were speaking to, how they came across & what they thought of them?

Yes but they would speak to both people and take a decision based on what they saw and heard.

If there was supporting additional evidence like pictures or vid clips that could EASILY swing it--Wedding Customers especially can be ultra fussy as you know.

Unless its a tin of baked beans or a product in which there is no variation.


I agree with the concept, but not the photo bit.

As I run a single show business then what I put into it makes a huge amount of difference but I dont see what difference it would make if there was a photo of me.

The overarching theory is why I always try and get people to contact me by phone rather than just looking at a price list or sending a mail- only verbally do I think you really get a chance to convey the passion, experience etc etc that you may have,

Valid theory--but dont all Entertainers say --im brilliant, loads of experience, top equipment etc. the person for you to book:confused:

I do--but back it up with vid clip evidence if im making a PA ( Personal Appearance)

wensleydale
06-06-2010, 04:42 PM
Valid theory--but dont all Entertainers say --im brilliant, loads of experience, top equipment etc. the person for you to book:confused:

I do--but back it up with vid clip evidence if im making a PA ( Personal Appearance)

Yes- but to a certain extent that may be the problem- a lot of entertainers are by their very nature show offs, and I think some people dont like that.

As well as doing the "sell" there's also other things you can communicate to people on the phone.
It might be things that we take for granted or assume customers already know but often they dont.

I wouldnt say that I'm the best DJ people can book but I would feel fairly comfortable saying that I would do my very best to give the client the best possible service (and by this I mean "everything"- especially contact before the event) that they could expect.

I think there's a subtle difference.

CRAZY K
06-06-2010, 04:45 PM
Yes- but to a certain extent that may be the problem- a lot of entertainers are by their very nature show offs, and I think some people dont like that.

As well as doing the "sell" there's also other things you can communicate to people on the phone.
It might be things that we take for granted or assume customers already know but often they dont.

I wouldnt say that I'm the best DJ people can book but I would feel fairly comfortable saying that I would do my very best to give the client the best possible service (and by this I mean "everything"- especially contact before the event) that they could expect.

I think there's a subtle difference.

Fair enough--I dont do subtle;)

DazzyD
06-06-2010, 06:17 PM
Rob, you started by mentioning photo's on a website then your scenario is about talking on the phone. They're two totally different things imo.

If I put a photo up, clients are more likely to use it by printing it off and putting it on the mantlepiece to keep the kids away from the fire. But, realistically, a photo of me would show potential clients diddley-squat about how suitable I am and how skilled I am as a DJ or how approachable I am as a person. If a client made a decision based on how the DJ looks then I'd be forever losing out to "Trendy Trev", Sixty-Quid Sid's best mate. :(

rob1963
06-06-2010, 11:02 PM
Rob, you started by mentioning photo's on a website then your scenario is about talking on the phone. They're two totally different things imo.

I disagree, Dazzy.

Both scenarios still fall under "People buy people".

I've already given the example of phoning two discos who provide the same service at the same price, and suggested that most people would make their decision based on how much they liked the person they were speaking to.

A similar same thing can happen with websites. If there were two sites offering the same service at the same price, but one had a photo of the proprietor with some info about him and one did not, I know which one I'd be more likely to contact. I don't know about you, but I'd be less keen to talk to a faceless wonder that I knew nothing about.

gaza
07-06-2010, 08:37 AM
I only have one picture of me on my website and I'm fairly certain that people don't book me because of it?... maybe I should include the 2nd black-tie picture too... discuss! :D











Blimey. either thats an old photo or the sea air is doing you good, because you don't look 44.

DazzyD
07-06-2010, 01:07 PM
I disagree, Dazzy.

Both scenarios still fall under "People buy people".

I've already given the example of phoning two discos who provide the same service at the same price, and suggested that most people would make their decision based on how much they liked the person they were speaking to.

A similar same thing can happen with websites. If there were two sites offering the same service at the same price, but one had a photo of the proprietor with some info about him and one did not, I know which one I'd be more likely to contact. I don't know about you, but I'd be less keen to talk to a faceless wonder that I knew nothing about.

I see what you're saying but my point was, in the OP, you posed this question:


Does this mean that those of us who DON'T have a pic & some personal info on our website are missing a trick?

This implied to me that you were talking about photo's and personal info on websites. At no point did the OP mention talking to people on the phone which you later dropped in to the thread.

But I maintain my point that whether or not my photo is published on any of my promotion material bears no relevance to how good a DJ I am and if that's how potential clients make their decisions then to be in with a decent shout I should really consider plastic surgery and a gastric band!

rob1963
07-06-2010, 01:47 PM
I maintain my point that whether or not my photo is published on any of my promotion material bears no relevance to how good a DJ I am

I agree.

I wasn't asking whether it makes you a better DJ, but whether people are more likely to contact you if they can see your pic & some personal info.

Mark Wild
07-06-2010, 02:29 PM
I use pics of myself to give people a mental image of what's going to be turning up to their event, it's all packaging really, it doesn't make what's inside the package any better though. Being the handsome devil I am, I might as well use it to my advantage. :D You got to agree, I am a right looker huh !

Vectis
07-06-2010, 02:54 PM
I use pics of myself to give people a mental image of what's going to be turning up to their event, it's all packaging really, it doesn't make what's inside the package any better though. Being the handsome devil I am, I might as well use it to my advantage. :D You got to agree, I am a right looker huh !

Guess so. Who's the bloke on the right? :confused: :D

yourdj
07-06-2010, 03:47 PM
I've recently heard the sayings "People buy people" & "People buy people first" several times,

Interesting that :confused:

How much do you think jessica Alba would cost then :p

http://snarla.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/jessica_alba-houri.jpg


My site is all about me and pictures and videos of me. Maybe a bit posy and megalomanic but it seems to work?

The best thing is i do not have to seach for people on pre wedding meetings as they already know what i look like.

rob1963
07-06-2010, 03:55 PM
How much do you think jessica Alba would cost then :p

A lot more than you could ever afford!


My site is all about me and pictures and videos of me. Maybe a bit posy and megalomanic but it seems to work?

The best thing is i do not have to seach for people on pre wedding meetings as they already know what i look like.

Seems like you agree with the saying, then.

I'm on the verge of adding a pic & some personal info to my website.

Mark Wild
07-06-2010, 04:00 PM
A lot more than you could ever afford!



Seems like you agree with the saying, then.

I'm on the verge of adding a pic & some personal info to my website.

Could have an adverse effect Rob, don't do it ! lol :p

yourdj
07-06-2010, 07:06 PM
A lot more than you could ever afford!


can I pay in charm over fixed installments :)

Yes definitely get some pictures or something up there. Its like a wedding fair although you do not have to stand about all sunday at some rubbish hotel and go down the pub instead :p

My USP is that im young and personal and able to get on with all sorts of people which is supposed to come across in the videos i do :confused:

Most the enquiries i get are people who want to book and i hardly get "how much for a disco mate".

YouTube- Your DJ - East Close Wedding Disco.m4v

StarZSoundS
07-06-2010, 09:46 PM
, I am a right looker huh !




Burnside???????;) ;) ;) ;)

Excalibur
07-06-2010, 09:48 PM
Burnside???????;) ;) ;) ;)

Blindside. ;)

StarZSoundS
07-06-2010, 09:52 PM
Mark Burnside