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DeckstarDeluxe
16-06-2010, 06:07 PM
How many of the full timers offer this service and what sort of costings etc.... come with it?
Is there an particular service you use? How do you "sell" this to landlords etc... post? phone call? personal meeting?
StarZSoundS
16-06-2010, 06:22 PM
How many of the full timers offer this service and what sort of costings etc.... come with it?
Is there an particular service you use? How do you "sell" this to landlords etc... post? phone call? personal meeting?
Well you're not going to find ANYONE to pay you much over £120 a night for one firstly.Landlords know they can download a free quiz and deliver it themselves.....
Try marketing it as a Social Evening...something people can come back to week after week.....install Jackpot type games to encourage weekly attendance....I use PYCR.
The biggest selling point is to tell the Landlord that not only does he get the Quiz...he gets three hours of quality music as well to keep the punters there and supping...as a veteran of six years PM if you want any more help Mate!!;) ;) ;) ;)
DeckstarDeluxe
16-06-2010, 06:25 PM
Im guessing the costs are pretty low Martin but also a good way of filling mid week dates? Say If I got two a week then thats pretty much living expenses covered and weekend work is just gravy on top. Well thats the idea ;)
Dynamic Entertainment
16-06-2010, 06:28 PM
Whilst not a full timer, I do quiz nights for £100.
The sell wasnt very hard in my case because it was one landlord who approached me and asked if i could do it, which i said yes and it snowballed from there.
My quiz nights take the following form:
1. In The News
2. General Knowledge
3. Music round
15 minute break
4. Specialist round
5. Connections round
6. Wipeout.
and a picture round
I spend £3.50 each week here http://www.freequizzes.co.uk/ which gives me the bulk of my rounds (Rounds 1, 5,6 & picture) and i pick and choose their other questions to suit my general knowledge and specialist rounds.
My music round is 10, 10 second clips which get played in reverse and they get 1 point for naming the artist, and 1 point for the song title. Most audio editing software can flip the highlighted waveform into reverse so its no biggie.
I provide all the posters required, and also manage the facebook advertising (this woked wonders in most venues), which tbh is a status update the day before and on the day reminding people to go.
The pubs supply the prizes, which is usually beer and/or food, and a couple of venues got on board with an additional potluck round where a tie-breaker type question is read out, and the 1st team with the nearest correct answer gets to open one of three envelopes. In one envelop is a tenner, second envelope is 30 quid, and the 3rd envelope has nothing in. We only accept slips for about 30 seconds, to stop the google fans getting bang on with the answer.
This is ran seperate to the actual quiz, but only quiz partisipants get the chance to enter, and it really did bulk up the enteries knowing that a cash prize was available even if you came last in the actual quiz.
DeckstarDeluxe
16-06-2010, 06:31 PM
Whilst not a full timer, I do quiz nights for £100.
The sell wasnt very hard in my case because it was one landlord who approached me and asked if i could do it, which i said yes and it snowballed from there.
My quiz nights take the following form:
1. In The News
2. General Knowledge
3. Music round
15 minute break
4. Specialist round
5. Connections round
6. Wipeout.
and a picture round
I spend £3.50 each week here http://www.freequizzes.co.uk/ which gives me the bulk of my rounds (Rounds 1, 5,6 & picture) and i pick and choose their other questions to suit my general knowledge and specialist rounds.
My music round is 10, 10 second clips which get played in reverse and they get 1 point for naming the artist, and 1 point for the song title. Most audio editing software can flip the highlighted waveform into reverse so its no biggie.
Thats a fab post, thanks!
Dynamic Entertainment
16-06-2010, 06:33 PM
If you want, after tonights quiz is done, i can post you up a full set of questions, as a pdf etc so you can see what its like?
DeckstarDeluxe
16-06-2010, 06:34 PM
Yes that would be grand fella!
If you prefer you can email it to
[email protected]
Solitaire Events Ltd
16-06-2010, 06:35 PM
Well you're not going to find ANYONE to pay you much over £120 a night for one firstly
In pubs and social clubs maybe.
StarZSoundS
16-06-2010, 06:38 PM
Im guessing the costs are pretty low Martin but also a good way of filling mid week dates? Say If I got two a week then thats pretty much living expenses covered and weekend work is just gravy on top. Well thats the idea ;)
Good start Neil.....
If anything is going to:Censored: you its going to be the lack of midweek work!!
People don't go out midweek in numbers anymore....except if there eating in a 2 for 1 type effort.You're already on the right track.
You are a budding Rab James.....ouch!!:bang: :bang:
Dynamic Entertainment
16-06-2010, 06:39 PM
In pubs and social clubs maybe.
Daz is correct. I have ran competition quiz nights in hotels which have ran over a couple of weeks and the pay is alot better, but i wouldt dream of using freequizzes to compile them kind as theres often a higher quality service required.
Solitaire Events Ltd
16-06-2010, 06:41 PM
i wouldt dream of using freequizzes to compile them kind as theres often a higher quality service required.
I write and present bespoke quiz nights for corporates and charge a lot more than £120, but for those reasons Steve has just mentioned.
Mark Wild
16-06-2010, 06:43 PM
Bespoke quizzes, how very upmarket lol
DeckstarDeluxe
16-06-2010, 06:44 PM
I write and present bespoke quiz nights for corporates and charge a lot more than £120, but for those reasons Steve has just mentioned.
These venues happean to be places where you had your "foot in the door" so to speak or did they approach you through the website??
Im happy with providing both levels of quizzes so to speak but its how I get them in the first place Im trying to focus on.
Solitaire Events Ltd
16-06-2010, 06:44 PM
Bespoke quizzes, how very upmarket lol
Not really, it just means they are tailored for the client. :)
Solitaire Events Ltd
16-06-2010, 06:49 PM
These venues happean to be places where you had your "foot in the door" so to speak or did they approach you through the website??
Some are through venues that already recommend me - very important to keep in touch with existing clients and let them know what you are up to and you can provide x and xx if they require it, and others that came through the website.
Mostly through the website really, a few schools, where I do a slightly cheaper rate so that they can make money for the PTA etc
What you need to remember if you are presenting a well paid quiz is to pitch the questions at the right level, keep it professional and keep it entertaining.
I know there are certain questions and things I do that provoke a reaction, so use them often.
Generally though, it's all in the marketing. Know where you want to go and how much you want to charge.
There is a very big events company not far from me that charge nearly a grand for a 2 hour quiz, compere, lecturn and a couple of moving heads. Do companies pay it? Of course they do!
Excalibur
16-06-2010, 06:52 PM
Bespoke quizzes, how very upmarket lol
Not really, it just means they are tailored for the client. :)
Well all my quizzes were bespoke. :ner: Mind you, they had to be. Some of the ones I did, if you ran the same quiz a forthnight later, nobody would get 100%. :bang: By all that's holy, unlesss it's a football question, I didn't half have to dumb it down. :( :( :( :(
Dynamic Entertainment
16-06-2010, 09:50 PM
Too big to attach. Ill email them over tomorrow morning.
One point to note. I often get comments (from guys) that "Its not a pub quiz without a sports round".
My reply is usually that its mixed gender, and it wouldnt be fair on the female teams that enter.
robbiedj
16-06-2010, 09:58 PM
Too big to attach. Ill email them over tomorrow morning.
One point to note. I often get comments (from guys) that "Its not a pub quiz without a sports round".
My reply is usually that its mixed gender, and it wouldnt be fair on the female teams that enter.
That is sexist!!!!!!!! :eek:
The ladies often know as much if not more than the men, especially on non-football questions.
Do you avoid rounds on cookery because it's not fair on the men?
If so, don't tell Darren.
Dynamic Entertainment
16-06-2010, 09:59 PM
That is sexist!!!!!!!! :eek:
The ladies often know as much if not more than the men, especially on non-football questions.
Do you avoid rounds on cookery because it's not fair on the men?
If so, don't tell Darren.
No, but i dont run rounds on Sex & The City either. I try to provide a fair and impartial quiz with a selection of questions which most will have a good chance of answering...
Excalibur
16-06-2010, 10:00 PM
That is sexist!!!!!!!! :eek:
The ladies often know as much if not more than the men, especially on non-football questions.
Do you avoid rounds on cookery because it's not fair on the men?
If so, don't tell Darren.
Or Penmare. Or me.
rob1963
16-06-2010, 11:14 PM
You are a budding Rab James.....ouch!!:bang: :bang:
:D
Neil,
The following links have some useful info about running quiz nights:
http://www.quiz-zone.co.uk/runningaquiz/format.html
http://www.quiz-zone.co.uk/runningaquiz/questions.html
If it's a weekly pub quiz, you'll probably be able to charge them around £75 - £100
RabbittsKaraoke
17-06-2010, 07:08 AM
:D
Neil,
The following links have some useful info about running quiz nights:
http://www.quiz-zone.co.uk/runningaquiz/format.html
http://www.quiz-zone.co.uk/runningaquiz/questions.html
If it's a weekly pub quiz, you'll probably be able to charge them around £75 - £100
I use quiz-zone quite heavily for my quizes.
Where I do mine is splitup into many rooms and so a lot of my quiz (about half) is paper based.
The other half is made up of a 25 track "beat the intro" round and an interactive round - either "who am i", "guess the year", or a connections round. As soon as the team know what/who/when i'm describing they scribble it on a piece of paper and bring it up to me - getting the appropiate number of points depending on how early they get it. If they get it wrong they get nowt - so doubles as a wipe-out.
Occasionally do TV themes aswell.
Then I do a PYCR at the end. Two teams get drawn out randomly so it doesn't matter where they came in the quiz - just keeps their attention going. If no one wins the cards money rolls over the following week......
....this is where my problems lie as we may get a "stranger" team who come in on the off chance and win money thats been built up over weeks - but hey-ho....pay your money, take your chances.
Another thing...do you guys mark the sheets yourselves and use up valuable time (as I do) or do you get teams to swap papers and get the infernal "is x ok for this answer????" for EVERY SINGLE question??
StarZSoundS
17-06-2010, 07:27 AM
Another thing...do you guys mark the sheets yourselves and use up valuable time (as I do) or do you get teams to swap papers and get the infernal "is x ok for this answer????" for EVERY SINGLE question??
Get a twin-sided answer sheet....let them mark it themselves after they've handed you a copy ....a quick scan of the winning sheet will tell you if they have been fibbing.
Did anybody get 20 out of 20??19??18???etc
The success of your evening will not neccesarily revolve around the Quiz ...it will be how you pad out the other hours!!;) ;) ;)
DAVESOUNDS SERVICES
17-06-2010, 08:14 AM
I do 3 quizzes a week, tuesdays a real quiz for the brainboxes in pub 1
thursdays a dumbed down quiz as the young ones start going out (pub 1)
and finally on sunday at pub 2 the recycled quiz i used at pub 1 on the tuesdays ( 10 pictures 10 gen knowledge 10 music)...
It works well for me as ive the rest of the week for mobile.
and the twin forms ( tear it down the middle )mean you only have to check the winners .Allthough i often award a non wiiners bottle of patially fermented grape must! (dont think its good enough to be called wine)
cheers
DAVESOUNDS
I write and present bespoke quiz nights for corporates and charge a lot more than £120, but for those reasons Steve has just mentioned.
One of the dangers of writing bespoke quizzes is getting the answers right
On your website you have a sample bespoke quiz
One of your questions is to find 3 words using the letters ACHNST
Your answer gives the following solution STAUNCH CHANTS and SNATCH
How exactly do you get STAUNCH as an answer then?
JTRS
Solitaire Events Ltd
17-06-2010, 09:09 AM
One of the dangers of writing bespoke quizzes is getting the answers right
On your website you have a sample bespoke quiz
One of your questions is to find 3 words using the letters ACHNST
Your answer gives the following solution STAUNCH CHANTS and SNATCH
How exactly do you get STAUNCH as an answer then?
JTRS
Thank you for pointing that out. That is a very old quiz which I put up 5 years ago as an example. It is being replaced with something else very soon.
And I don't have a sample bespoke quiz on my site, I have a sample brain teaser.
Perhaps you could go through my site and pick out any other mistakes for me?
Thank you for pointing that out. That is a very old quiz which I put up 5 years ago as an example. It is being replaced with something else very soon.
And I don't have a sample bespoke quiz on my site, I have a sample brain teaser.
Perhaps you could go through my site and pick out any other mistakes for me?
Whoa, take a chill pill
I only pointed that out because if I was a potential customer and I had looked at your website that would have put me off using you for quizzes on the basis that you obviously don't check your answers.
In future when I see something like that I'll keep quiet
JTRS
StarZSoundS
17-06-2010, 09:37 AM
I do 3 quizzes a week, tuesdays a real quiz for the brainboxes in pub 1
thursdays a dumbed down quiz as the young ones start going out (pub 1)
and finally on sunday at pub 2 the recycled quiz i used at pub 1 on the tuesdays ( 10 pictures 10 gen knowledge 10 music)...
It works well for me as ive the rest of the week for mobile.
and the twin forms ( tear it down the middle )mean you only have to check the winners .Allthough i often award a non wiiners bottle of patially fermented grape must! (dont think its good enough to be called wine)
cheers
DAVESOUNDS
3 Quizzes a week would be a great start for Neil,Dave.Any tips for him on how you secured them......what sort of value he has to go in at.....how you keep the entertainment fresh.... etc etc :) :) :)
You mentioned you recently went self-employed full time....best thing that ever happened to you???;) ;) ;)
Dynamic Entertainment
17-06-2010, 10:10 AM
With regards to marking. I get them to mark each others and then collect them in for a quick double check.
rob1963
17-06-2010, 11:26 AM
Then I do a PYCR at the end. Two teams get drawn out randomly so it doesn't matter where they came in the quiz - just keeps their attention going. If no one wins the cards money rolls over the following week......
In the past, I've done PYCR after some of my quizzes, but I've run it as a separate entity.
I sold raffle tickets for £1 each, then drew one out at the end of the quiz & that person came up to play. If they didn't win, the money rolled over to the following week.
The bigger the prize, the better the atmosphere as the player gradually turns over more & more cards correctly & everyone is shouting higher or lower.
I've had a couple of occasions where the jackpot got quite close to £500. The atmosphere was electric, and when the player turned over the last card correctly, the roof came off the place!
One of the dangers of writing bespoke quizzes is getting the answers right
Writing bespoke quizzes is fine for a corporate quiz where they all work for the same company, but unnecessary & impossible to do for weekly pub quiz nights...where everyone has completely different occupations.
Another thing...do you guys mark the sheets yourselves and use up valuable time (as I do) or do you get teams to swap papers and get the infernal "is x ok for this answer????" for EVERY SINGLE question??
With regards to marking. I get them to mark each others and then collect them in for a quick double check.
I have strong views on marking, and think that if possible the quizmaster should ALWAYS mark the sheets rather than calling out the answers & getting them to mark each others.
Although it's quicker, you lose all consistency, as everyone will have a different level of strictness. For example, if there's a spelling error, some people will mark it right & others will mark it wrong...and that's without mistakes made by some people when adding up the scores.
You then have people coming up & querying their score, and by the time you've re-checked the sheets concerned, you've lost much of the time which you initially saved by getting them to mark each others sheets.
The ONLY time I get them to mark each others sheets is when it's really busy & when marking them myself would cause too much of a delay, and probably mean I wouldn't be able to finish the quiz in the time available.
I find that for up to around 15 teams (about 60 people), I can mark the sheets myself without much of a problem, but once you get up to about 20 teams it becomes impossible. Of course a lot will depend on the number of questions & rounds you have in the quiz.
Dynamic Entertainment
17-06-2010, 11:57 AM
Each of the quizzes I run averages about 100 participants, and teams of between 20-30. So as you can see its easier to have it done out there. For masrking, i always state at the start before going through the answers that my answer is final, i.e. Last night one of the pictures rounds was Flanders Field, we were not accepting field as a answer, and we dont give out half points. If its the name of a celebrity, its the full name i want, not half a point for getting the fore or surname right. I alos point out that everyones level of spelling is different, so if its spelt wrong but is understandable, give the point.
Ive only been doing quiz nights regulary for about 18 months, but ive never had an issue crop up.
I give each of the sheets a quick scan over as im going through them when i collect them back in, because i find the top 3 scorers ro announcing the winners. If we have two teams tie for first place, or have they within a couple of points of each other, i always fully double check to ensure they have been marked/totalled up correctly.
Solitaire Events Ltd
17-06-2010, 12:01 PM
Whoa, take a chill pill
I only pointed that out because if I was a potential customer and I had looked at your website that would have put me off using you for quizzes on the basis that you obviously don't check your answers.
In future when I see something like that I'll keep quiet
JTRS
Fine by me.
I do research and check my answers and don't appreciate you implying that I don't.
For you information, I did appreciate the fact that you pointed out a mistake, but didn't appreciate the way you worded it, or your last post.
Solitaire Events Ltd
17-06-2010, 12:03 PM
Writing bespoke quizzes is fine for a corporate quiz where they all work for the same company, but unnecessary & impossible to do for weekly pub quiz nights...where everyone has completely different occupations.
I completely disagree. I did this for 6 years in a pub.
I'm not sure how you come to this conclusion really Rob as you've said before that you don't actually write the questions for yours.
Dynamic Entertainment
17-06-2010, 12:07 PM
I completely disagree. I did this for 6 years in a pub.
I'm not sure how you come to this conclusion really Rob as you've said before that you don't actually write the questions for yours.
IMO it depends on what the client is willing to pay.
For a £100 pub quiz im not goint to spend hours on end writing bespoke quizzes when i can buy one for £3.50 and then spend an hour tinkering with it to suit my level of difficulty and format.
However if im being paid to supply a bespoke quiz, I done one not long ago, there the first letter of each answer was an anagram of the hotels name, which also formed one of the questions, and each of the questions was geared towards leisure and hospitality, then that is what i will provide.
Im taking a guest that your a similar mindset Daz?
RabbittsKaraoke
17-06-2010, 12:09 PM
The quizzes I do only have about 50 participants but they are in quite large groups, so some nights i'll only have maybe 6 teams so it's easy to mark. Especially as my "Beat the intro" round lasts about 15 mins and pre-recorded (cue the legal brigade); I can mark the first sections of the quiz while this is playing.
I remember the PYCR a few years ago....the management allowed the bar maid to enter :eek: :eek: the jackpot was at over £300 :eek: :eek: and guess what....!? yep!! she won :eek: :eek:
Completely destroyed the quiz night for about 6 months as no one came in thinking it was a fix
Needless to say, the staff are no longer allowed to enter.
rob1963
17-06-2010, 12:10 PM
Each of the quizzes I run averages about 100 participants, and teams of between 20-30.
That's a lot, so I don't blame you for getting them to mark each others, as doing it yourself would be almost impossible!
I don't know if you do one-off corporate quizzes or weekly pub quiz nights.
Virtually all mine are weekly pub quiz nights, and I find it's quite rare to have more than about 16 teams or 70 punters.
Writing bespoke quizzes is fine for a corporate quiz where they all work for the same company, but unnecessary & impossible to do for weekly pub quiz nights...where everyone has completely different occupations.
I'd totally agree with that.
A bespoke quiz (and by that I mean one where the questions are specifically targetted at the participants) has no place in a pub quiz because of the lack of common ground between the people in the pub.
Not only is it impossible to write a bespoke quiz for a pub (because you do not know in advance who will be in the pub), but it's not cost effective and it's time consuming and pointless.
And just to clarify I am not talking about quizzes with a specific theme (ie a World Cup Quiz, or a Halloween Quiz), I am talking about a bespoke quiz that is specifically designed for your audience.
JTRS
Dynamic Entertainment
17-06-2010, 12:15 PM
That's a lot, so I don't blame you for getting them to mark each others, as doing it yourself would be almost impossible!
I don't know if you do one-off corporate quizzes or weekly pub quiz nights.
Virtually all mine are weekly pub quiz nights, and I find it's quite rare to have more than about 16 teams or 70 punters.
Thats weekly quiz nights Rob. They took a while to build up, but are now doing great.
One of my venues, the local Smith & Jones pub, decided that it would ge a good idea to also offer BOGOF on all large pizzas for all quiz participants which works wonders. That venue now averages about 140 people per week in the quiz. So a team of four people get 2 huge pizzas, drink (say 2x 4 pint pitchers) and a quiz night for about a fiver each. Thats a decent enough night out, and if they win the pot luck round, they still end up a tennur up between the 4 of them.
Solitaire Events Ltd
17-06-2010, 12:18 PM
A bespoke quiz (and by that I mean one where the questions are specifically targetted at the participants) has no place in a pub quiz because of the lack of common ground between the people in the pub.
So, if I did the quiz in a pub for 6 years and knew the general age groups that it was targetted at, interests, as there a lot of regular teams that were there for years, then this isn't bespoke?
Have you actually ever written or presented a quiz?
rob1963
17-06-2010, 12:20 PM
I completely disagree. I did this for 6 years in a pub.
That's very surprising, Darren...so I would love to know more.
How can you have a bespoke quiz for a weekly quiz in any particular pub? How would the picture round, music round or general knowledge questions be bespoke to THAT particular pub, and how would they differ from another weekly quiz which you did at a different pub down the road?
I honestly can't see how any of this is possible, so I'm very interested to hear your response.
Have you actually ever written or presented a quiz?
Yes every Thursday night for the past 14 months.
I started off writing them myself, then I used quiz books, now I use a combination of websites, quiz books and interesting facts from current news.
I think you are confusing what bespoke actually means.
JTRS
Solitaire Events Ltd
17-06-2010, 12:27 PM
Yes every Thursday night for the past 14 months.
I started off writing them myself, then I used quiz books, now I use a combination of websites, quiz books and interesting facts from current news.
I think you are confusing what bespoke actually means.
JTRS
Tailored or individual.
I tailor the quiz to the people in the pub or venue after asking the client age groups, interests, whether they are male or female etc etc
Obviously in the first few weeks when you start a new quiz it takes a while to get a following but then you get to know all the above and can write it accordingly.
For corporates it's pretty much the same with me getting info from the client with regards to the above plus Nationalities and any specialist information pertinent to their particular company.
RabbittsKaraoke
17-06-2010, 12:31 PM
So, if I did the quiz in a pub for 6 years and knew the general age groups that it was targetted at, interests, as there a lot of regular teams that were there for years, then this isn't bespoke?
Have you actually ever written or presented a quiz?
I have to do this every week.
In the pub I do mine there are some teams that come every other week and others that come every week like clockwork.
Some of the teams that come in every fortnight are older women who know nothing about football, for example, so on those weeks I know to leave a football round out. And so on.....
It has to be done subtly though
I don't know if this is called bespoke or not but it is tailored to the audience. If it is "bespoke" then surely EVERY quiz should be?? :confused: :confused:
Much the same as a disco, you know what sort of people are going to be there and so, the same way you would manipulate the music to suit these people, you should manipulate the questions around the quiz participants.
Tailored or individual.
I tailor the quiz to the people in the pub or venue after asking the client age groups, interests, whether they are male or female etc etc
That's hardly bespoke is it.
You could use that quiz in any pub, unless you are saying that the clientele are unique to that pub and are not representative of any number of pubs in your area.
And, don't you think you are shooting yourself in the pub, what happens if new people come in to the pub (it's not a private party), what if they don't fit the pattern you were given? They are hardly likely to enjoy it and come back again are they?
By definition a pub quiz is just that, a quiz for the people in the pub, since you don't know in advance who will be there the only sensible thing to do is write a generic quiz that would appeal to all comers.
JTRS
rob1963
17-06-2010, 12:50 PM
A bespoke quiz (and by that I mean one where the questions are specifically targetted at the participants) has no place in a pub quiz because of the lack of common ground between the people in the pub.
Not only is it impossible to write a bespoke quiz for a pub (because you do not know in advance who will be in the pub), but it's not cost effective and it's time consuming and pointless.
Exactly! :thumbsup:
So, if I did the quiz in a pub for 6 years and knew the general age groups that it was targetted at, interests, as there a lot of regular teams that were there for years, then this isn't bespoke?
Not in my book.
I tailor the quiz to the people in the pub or venue after asking the client age groups, interests, whether they are male or female etc etc
Darren, even if you have regulars who you know and you target some of the questions towards them, what if they aren't there one particular week? You are also alienating people who haven't been before, who might like to try the quiz but won't have any questions targetted at them in particular.
It's all very well to say you ask about age groups, interests & whether they are male or female, but my regulars are literally all ages from 18 to 80, they have all different occupations, backgrounds & interests & are roughly half men & half women...so how could I write a bespoke quiz for them?
Apart from that, you mentioned regulars who you know about, but you don't know when they will be at the quiz. I have no idea who will be at any of my quizzes until I actually get there each week. I have regulars who are there most weeks, others who are there every couple of weeks, some who are there about once a month & some I only see once in a blue moon.
Apart from that, you often get new teams comprising people who have heard about the quiz & come along to give it a go, or people who happen to be in the pub, had no idea there was going to be a quiz but decide to join in.
It seems different people have different understandings of the word bespoke.
That's hardly bespoke is it.
No it's not.
Solitaire Events Ltd
17-06-2010, 12:52 PM
I'll tell you what, you crack on with whatever you are doing and earning and I will do the same.
You are arguing pathetic little points for the sake of it.
What I call bespoke shouldn't worry you, as it is my business. I am merely pointing out that I tailor the quizzes for the clients and have been for over 15 years.
If I want an expert opinion on comedy, then I'll come to you.
Solitaire Events Ltd
17-06-2010, 12:54 PM
It seems different people have different understandings of the word bespoke.
Exactly.
You wouldn't know anyway, as you don't write the questions for your quizzes and you appear to do exactly the same thing when you DJ every week.
We'll agree to disagree and leave it there.
Much the same as a disco, you know what sort of people are going to be there and so, the same way you would manipulate the music to suit these people, you should manipulate the questions around the quiz participants.
A disco is very much a bespoke event, you probably discuss with your customer what kind of music they would like and in some cases you get a play list. You also take requests on the night from guests at the event. You read the dancefloor and play music that fits with the crowd and also their reaction.
If you made a note of every track you played at every event you did I would bet money that no two were exactly the same, urgo it's unique and spefically targetted for that particular group of people that were there on that particular night, that's bespoke.
However a pub quiz isn't like that, and it couldn't be, otherwise you are limiting your contestants and not appealling to the whole pub (ie regulars and newcomers), and since I would imagine the idea of a pub quiz is to build up custom for the pub I doubt if they would like you excluding potential customers by not asking questions they could answer.
JTRS
Dynamic Entertainment
17-06-2010, 12:55 PM
Anyhow....Neil...you have email :)
RabbittsKaraoke
17-06-2010, 01:06 PM
A disco is very much a bespoke event, you probably discuss with your customer what kind of music they would like and in some cases you get a play list. You also take requests on the night from guests at the event. You read the dancefloor and play music that fits with the crowd and also their reaction.
If you made a note of every track you played at every event you did I would bet money that no two were exactly the same, urgo it's unique and spefically targetted for that particular group of people that were there on that particular night, that's bespoke.
However a pub quiz isn't like that, and it couldn't be, otherwise you are limiting your contestants and not appealling to the whole pub (ie regulars and newcomers), and since I would imagine the idea of a pub quiz is to build up custom for the pub I doubt if they would like you excluding potential customers by not asking questions they could answer.
JTRS
I guess it's down to knowing your venue. If you've got a good idea of what "sort" of people your participants are going to be then happy days. If not, then you have to tailor it to a broader audience....if that is possible
And on your other points, as Darren says, we shall have to agree to disagree. I just know what works and what doesn't in my particular venue.
rob1963
17-06-2010, 01:32 PM
I'll tell you what, you crack on with whatever you are doing and earning and I will do the same.
I certainly will, because what I do is very successful & I'm earning enough to be able to retire in a few years.
:D
You are arguing pathetic little points for the sake of it.
I'm not arguing pathetic little points for the sake of it at all, Darren. I'm giving my opinions & trying to discuss things with you...and join to read sucks agrees with me. Is HE arguing pathetic little points too?
What I call bespoke shouldn't worry you, as it is my business. I am merely pointing out that I tailor the quizzes for the clients and have been for over 15 years.
What you call bespoke doesn't worry me at all. After what you've said, I've now learned that the quizzes which I run are also bespoke!
If I want an expert opinion on comedy, then I'll come to you.
I wouldn't advise it, because although I have a good sense of humour, I certainly wouldn't describe myself as an expert on comedy.
You wouldn't know anyway, as you don't write the questions
For the record, I ran a weekly pub quiz back in the 90's which I DID write myself. Apart from that, I sometimes change some of the questions in the quizzes I do to other questions which I think are better quality or more interesting.
and you appear to do exactly the same thing when you DJ every week.
I'm not sure how the way I DJ is releveant to a thread about pub quiz nights, but if a client gives me a list of 20 requests, I'll play those 20 songs. If they give me a list of 50 songs, I'll play those 50 songs. I often see the same songs coming up again, so yes, there are certain songs I play regularly.
We'll agree to disagree and leave it there.
Your suggestion that I'm arguing pathetic little points for the sake of it, your statement that when you want an expert on comedy you'll come to me & your suggestion that we leave it there are all clear indications that you don't want me giving any more opinions in this thread, so yet AGAIN I'll bow out of the thread now & leave it for everyone else to continue the discussion.
Solitaire Events Ltd
17-06-2010, 02:09 PM
Your suggestion that I'm arguing pathetic little points for the sake of it, your statement that when you want an expert on comedy you'll come to me & your suggestion that we leave it there are all clear indications that you don't want me giving any more opinions in this thread, so yet AGAIN I'll bow out of the thread now & leave it for everyone else to continue the discussion.
A couple of points Rob.
Firstly, I didn't say I didn't want your opinions on this thread - once AGAIN you are putting words in my mouth and trying to get a reaction. This is trolling and if we were not being lenient with the rules, then you would be gone.
Secondly, half the post you quoted wasn't aimed at you unless you were a comedian in a past life.
Secondly, half the post you quoted wasn't aimed at you unless you were a comedian in a past life.
I didn't reply to that because you deleted a post I made on this thread and sent me a PM warning me to 'NOW DROP IT'
Since your PM I have obeyed your command because I don't want to be banned from this forum, so, I regret that I cannot respond because I don't feel comfortable in replying to anymore of your posts on this thread.
JTRS
Solitaire Events Ltd
17-06-2010, 04:26 PM
I didn't reply to that because you deleted a post I made on this thread and sent me a PM warning me to 'NOW DROP IT'
Since your PM I have obeyed your command because I don't want to be banned from this forum, so, I regret that I cannot respond because I don't feel comfortable in replying to anymore of your posts on this thread.
JTRS
I asked you to drop it because you were making insinuations about my business and me that I didn't want on a public forum. What you were talking about was a very minor mistake but you were blowing it up as you have continued to do by making these posts.
I could have threatened to ban you if you carried on on here, but thought it better to ask you via PM to leave it, although now I don't know why I bothered.
I could have threatened to ban you if you carried on on here, but thought it better to ask you via PM to leave it, although now I don't know why I bothered.
Would a beer help?
:beer1:
Or Two ?
:beer1: :beer1:
I don't know how to do a bespoke beer though :)
JTRS
Shaun
17-06-2010, 05:09 PM
Simon, a friendly word of advice. Leave it.
Simon, a friendly word of advice. Leave it.
I was actually trying to calm it down and take the heat out of this thread, hence why I posted the beers to Darren and the well intentioned joke, complete with smiley to show it was well intentioned.
I sincerely apologise if it did not come across that way and I will refrain from posting anything else on this thread
JTRS
DeckstarDeluxe
17-06-2010, 06:10 PM
Anyhow....Neil...you have email :)
Thanks fella big help that is :D
If your at BPM I'll get you a beer or two for your troubles
JTRS and Rob, more help on how to secure these quiz nights or how to run them would be
alot more helpful than having a rather silly discussion about what bespoke means?
Dynamic Entertainment
17-06-2010, 06:13 PM
Nah, cant make this years either. Glad to be a help though :)
Excalibur
17-06-2010, 06:18 PM
I'm with Darren on this one. If you simply buy a quiz, or get the software ( I had/have one which will do a random quiz at the push of a button.) Sadly this generated quizzes which were of no use whatsoever where I was working. You must tailor your quiz to suit the regular clientele. Not all pubs have the same type of customers, you know.;) ;)
Dynamic Entertainment
17-06-2010, 06:25 PM
Hence why i buy it and amend to suit. The bought is usually quite difficult, so i make it easier to suit the clientelle ;) :D
Solitaire Events Ltd
17-06-2010, 07:26 PM
I'm with Darren on this one. If you simply buy a quiz, or get the software ( I had/have one which will do a random quiz at the push of a button.) Sadly this generated quizzes which were of no use whatsoever where I was working. You must tailor your quiz to suit the regular clientele. Not all pubs have the same type of customers, you know.;) ;)
Thank you for the voice of sanity (ish) :D
robbiedj
17-06-2010, 07:35 PM
Exactly. Carol does our quizzes. The rounds vary from week to week, but the overall level and general ethos doesn't.
Our audience would never know who won the booker prize in 2001, bur would probably know who won the FA cup!
If you know your average audience, you play to that. So, it is virtually bespoke, as Darren says.
StarZSoundS
17-06-2010, 08:58 PM
FFS how did we manage to fall out about Quiz Questions....:confused: :confused:
I do 10 General Knowledge and 10 fairly obscure music clip (60 seconds of)....
Its got me through 350 Quiz Nights...
I aim to get the Top Team scoring about 16/20....if they are on form:) :) :)
Its what I do either side of the Quiz that makes it work!!;) ;) ;)
DeckstarDeluxe
17-06-2010, 09:52 PM
See what also worries me abit and Im saying this from a POV that I've never done a quiz night nor have I been paying much attention when Ive been at one (I will change this before I even consider posting this up) is the whole marking thing. Surely asking teams to mark each other when theres a fair wad of cash riding on it is asking for trouble?
StarZSoundS
17-06-2010, 09:55 PM
See what also worries me abit and Im saying this from a POV that I've never done a quiz night nor have I been paying much attention when Ive been at one (I will change this before I even consider posting this up) is the whole marking thing. Surely asking teams to mark each other when theres a fair wad of cash riding on it is asking for trouble?
Neil.... the big cash is with the Jackpot PYCR.....we got up to £750 with one last year..you can't fiddle that!!!:eek: :eek: :eek:
Dynamic Entertainment
17-06-2010, 10:00 PM
I get them to mark each others but once they have been collected in i give them a scan over and just confirm that its right. Like i said previously, if its close, ill go through them with a fine tooth comb.
Marking is something that gets faster with practice.
DeckstarDeluxe
17-06-2010, 10:01 PM
I get them to mark each others but once they have been collected in i give them a scan over and just confirm that its right. Like i said previously, if its close, ill go through them with a fine tooth comb.
Marking is something that gets faster with practice.
Yeah I might do a few mock ones with friends etc... first as I dont want to ruin the flow of the evening
StarZSoundS
17-06-2010, 10:06 PM
Yeah I might do a few mock ones with friends etc... first as I dont want to ruin the flow of the evening
I'd get some bookings first...these sort of evenings are not going to fall into your lap....
If you get one then pop up to mine one Sunday.....(Got a really nice Guest Room)...and you can see how one thats been going for six years works!!;) ;) ;)
StarZSoundS
07-11-2010, 09:38 AM
Thought I'd bump this interesting thread.....
Neil ....how did it go did you secure your Quiz Nights in the end.
Also I have just about exhausted quiz zone now....anyone else know of any other FREE quizzes where the answers are printed next to the question...
My mate gave me a great one for tonight!!:) :) :)
(without GOOGLING)
Which Football Ground did Nelson Mandella House overlook in Only Fools and Horses??:confused: :confused:
DeckstarDeluxe
07-11-2010, 01:56 PM
Not much uptake on them though Yates keeps me busy during the week so its not an major issue for me anymore.
Silver
07-11-2010, 03:30 PM
Neil.... the big cash is with the Jackpot PYCR.....we got up to £750 with one last year..you can't fiddle that!!!:eek: :eek: :eek:
Oh yes you can, as easy as you like, on the assumption that is, you do it on a raffle basis. Here's how ...
You come to my quiz where there is a £500 PYCR jackpot.
Step 1. When I come round and give you your picture round, quiz papers etc and give you your raffle ticket I take a note of your ticket number say 666.
Step 2. The raffle is drawn by a member of the public, normally not in the quiz. I have your ticket crushed up in my hand. The ticket pulled out is then slipped back in the pot or put in my pocket. I then open your ticket out and announce ticket #666 is the winner.
Step 3. I have beforehand arranged the cards in a winning sequence and put the winning sequence about a third of the way down the deck.
Step 4. To appear above board, you need to cut them. I have positioned the top third of the deck slighty aside of the rest of the pack, maybe a quarter of an inch or so. You come up cut them and we play the game.
Step 5. I have arranged the cards so you call high, low, high, low or, that is so obvious which way you need to call ... A Queen, three, Jack, four etc.
Step 6. YOU WIN £500
Step 7. I meet you in the car park, you give me £100 and all is well.
I trust it goes without saying I have never applied this nor would I ever.
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