Mixer for guest singer/guitarist and comedian

[funkymook]

My friends arranged a party which I'll be DJ'ing at - just found out he's also booked a singer and a comedian. He's presumed they can both go through my PA, not realising a DJ mixer is not right for these sort of things,
so looks like I'll have to hire something in for the night. Given the following what equipment should I hire? (also bearing in mind I've never done this before so the simpler the better).

Guitarist plays acoustic (on youtube looks like it's not mic'd up, so probably has a pick-up somewhere). Suppose I'll need reverb for vocals? possibly some processing for the accoustic?
I'm assuming comedian just needs a mic.

And if anyone has any contacts for equipment hire around the Woolwich area I'd be very grateful.

[Shakermaker Promotions]

I use one of these for Karaoke and have also used it for Open Mic nights too and it has never let me down.

Don't let the name put you off. I have had one of their DJ mixers before (a supposedly Pioneer DJM copy) and it was terrible....this however, is a lot better for what I use it for and would be ideal for you and around the £100.00 mark.

Behringer Xenyx 1202FX

http://www.totalsounds.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=100&products_id=2005&osCsid=blnr4o0avs7urbnhdil86rji82

EDIT: Sorry, didn't read it properly and that you want to hire....BUT...for £100.00, if you can spare it, why not buy one as you may need one in the future?

[funkymook]

Thanks, that's a possible, but also going to need a mic (possibly 2) and mic stand - all starts adding up if I start buying (but only £100, hmmmmm, tempted!)

[Shakermaker Promotions]

Think of it this way, You can get a cheap mic stand from the likes of Dawsons for £20.00 and a couple of Shure PG58's for around £50.00 each (probably cheaper, I can't remember how much mine were).

You then have a little vocal p.a. system there and also stuff for karaoke should you go down that route.

[Jiggles]

The Behringer desks are far far better than their DJ mixers.

[Dynamic Entertainment]

I too can recommend behringer desks. On top of that behringer do a 3 pack mic set, which includes mic clips and carry case, which is a bit of a copy of the Shure SM58 and they aint a bad set for about 40 quid. Im using the mobile but when i get home ill post a link to them.

[funkymook]

Think of it this way, You can get a cheap mic stand from the likes of Dawsons for £20.00 and a couple of Shure PG58's for around £50.00 each (probably cheaper, I can't remember how much mine were).

You then have a little vocal p.a. system there and also stuff for karaoke should you go down that route.

Funnily enough I do have a PG58 already - bought it secondhand from a cash converters type shop. But I haven't been that happy with it, find it feedbacks very easily and you have to have it very close to your mouth to pick anything up - lots of handling noise as well! Nightmare if I give ot to anyone for speeches etc. Maybe a duff one? Or my mixer (Denon x050) mic channel not very good? What do you think?

[womble]

Where are you based funky?

[Excalibur]

I echo everything said in posts #2,4,5 and 6. All gear recommended is fit for purpose, and reasonably priced. The Berry mics are not half bad. I've used mics costing twice as much that were no better.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Or my mixer (Denon x050) mic channel not very good? What do you think?

There's no eq on the mic channel on that mixer, so I'm guessing that doesn't help if you can't turn the HF down to eliminate feedback.

[NKR]

If you are sticking a guitar through it I would recommend it goes through a DI box pre mixer. Also don't let him unplug his guitar without letting you know as it will make a very loud pop and risk cab damage.

[TONYTIGER]

My friends arranged a party which I'll be DJ'ing at - just found out he's also booked a singer and a comedian. He's presumed they can both go through my PA, not realising a DJ mixer is not right for these sort of things,
so looks like I'll have to hire something in for the night. Given the following what equipment should I hire? (also bearing in mind I've never done this before so the simpler the better).

Guitarist plays acoustic (on youtube looks like it's not mic'd up, so probably has a pick-up somewhere). Suppose I'll need reverb for vocals? possibly some processing for the accoustic?
I'm assuming comedian just needs a mic.

And if anyone has any contacts for equipment hire around the Woolwich area I'd be very grateful.
Hi, what Dj mixer do you have already if it has 2x mic inputs then its ok, the acoustic can be done 2 ways just mike up low mic stand with mic in front of sound box normal for a acoustic if he has a pick up then its not a acoustic and you would need a Di box to link to mixer ,so if your mixer has 2 mic inputs you could get away with just getting a couple of mics and two mic stands . Sorry did not notice you only have one mic channel on your mixer sorry but what i said re DI box is valid.

[STEVE HANLEY]

If You're having to buy/hire all this extra kit. Just so a singer/comedian who just happens to play an accoustic guitar can hook up through your P.A.

I seriously hope you're passing these costs on to your client (Friend or no friend) or the gig would be off as far as I was concerned:( :(

[NKR]

Hi, what Dj mixer do you have already if it has 2x mic inputs then its ok, the acoustic can be done 2 ways just mike up low mic stand with mic in front of sound box normal for a acoustic if he has a pick up then its not a acoustic and you would need a Di box to link to mixer ,so if your mixer has 2 mic inputs you could get away with just getting a couple of mics and two mic stands .

Singer with no reverb is going to sound very dry, so his mixer would then also need an outboard effects input on send and return. A singer of anything above a karaoke king is not going to be pleased with a dry vocal.

[TONYTIGER]

Singer with no reverb is going to sound very dry, so his mixer would then also need an outboard effects input on send and return. A singer of anything above a karaoke king is not going to be pleased with a dry vocal.

See my apology in previous post:o

[funkymook]

Where are you based funky?

I'm in Staines nr Heathrow, the party is in Plumstead.

[TonyB]

Comedian is simples. just give him a mic and as long as he can be heard, he should be happy. Have you asked if the singer has his own sound desk? Most of the singer I've work have their own desk and mic as they often have a mic they prefer that suits their voice. If the singer does have one, then just connect to your mixer using phono's and a ground loop isolator (GLI adds a bit of protection and helps t prevent noise when connecting mixers).

Ideally you should also have a limiter of some sorts when letting someone else connect to your set up to prevent them overdriving it and damaging the speakers.

[womble]

I'm in Staines nr Heathrow, the party is in Plumstead.

Oh well, I could have lent you some kit if you'd been closer - and depending on the date of course.

[funkymook]

Oh well, I could have lent you some kit if you'd been closer - and depending on the date of course.

I appreciate the thought.

[funkymook]

Comedian is simples. just give him a mic and as long as he can be heard, he should be happy. Have you asked if the singer has his own sound desk? Most of the singer I've work have their own desk and mic as they often have a mic they prefer that suits their voice. If the singer does have one, then just connect to your mixer using phono's and a ground loop isolator (GLI adds a bit of protection and helps t prevent noise when connecting mixers).

Ideally you should also have a limiter of some sorts when letting someone else connect to your set up to prevent them overdriving it and damaging the speakers.

You're right, I'll get the singers contact and have a chat with him - I'd of thought he'd have his own mic at least, a mixer would be a bonus. Or alternatively he can do an 100%
accoustic gig!

[funkymook]

If You're having to buy/hire all this extra kit. Just so a singer/comedian who just happens to play an accoustic guitar can hook up through your P.A.

I seriously hope you're passing these costs on to your client (Friend or no friend) or the gig would be off as far as I was concerned:( :(

Its a comedian plus a singer, so two people to keep happy. Singer is really good (John Bramwell) so would like to do him justice on the night. My friend now realises what else is involved and will cover any extra costs.