mixing

[Cj_The_Dj]

Following another thread about what part of Mixers do you not use, and cross fader was the biggest thing, alot of people said they mix.

So im a DJ that dose not mix or beat match.. but if a song fails i can fade the song and play the next at a appropriate time,

So im wondering who dose mix and what type of gig do you do if for,

and dose it make me a bad DJ for not mixing?

and what do you class as mixing?

[DeckstarDeluxe]

Following another thread about what part of Mixers do you not use, and cross fader was the biggest thing, alot of people said they mix.

So im a DJ that dose not mix or beat match.. but if a song fails i can fade the song and play the next at a appropriate time,

So im wondering who dose mix and what type of gig do you do if for,

and dose it make me a bad DJ for not mixing?

and what do you class as mixing?


Depends on the crowd, music and other factors.

Generally I beat match where possible even if its just for a couple of seconds, I like a smooth transistion from track to track rather than a raw slam from one to the other.

Club gigs Im beat matching for most of the night as its 80% dance or rnb.

Other gigs I keep the tempo similar between tracks, helps keep with the flow of the evening.

Doesnt make you a bad DJ but do you not want to learn how to?

[Cj_The_Dj]

Depends on the crowd, music and other factors.

Generally I beat match where possible even if its just for a couple of seconds, I like a smooth transistion from track to track rather than a raw slam from one to the other.

Club gigs Im beat matching for most of the night as its 80% dance or rnb.

Other gigs I keep the tempo similar between tracks, helps keep with the flow of the evening.

Doesnt make you a bad DJ but do you not want to learn how to?



Its never really botherd me as I have been brought up the old school way,

and started with a cloud buckinham twin deck with a twin DENON untill we went fully CD.

I would love to be working in clubs though the week, but i love mobile work.

[Dynamic Entertainment]

Pretty much what Neil said.

I tend to use the seamless loop function alot for pop music, think Billie Jean, or Pointer Sisters Jump.

[DeckstarDeluxe]

Its never really botherd me as I have been brought up the old school way,

and started with a cloud buckinham twin deck with a twin DENON untill we went fully CD.


Old skool way? Remind me what that approach is?

I mixed when using vinyl in my living room, I mixed using cds on my denons? Ive mixed on pc software too (its not just about beatmatching either)

[Shaun]

Following another thread about what part of Mixers do you not use, and cross fader was the biggest thing, alot of people said they mix.

So im a DJ that dose not mix or beat match.. but if a song fails i can fade the song and play the next at a appropriate time,

So im wondering who dose mix and what type of gig do you do if for,

and dose it make me a bad DJ for not mixing?

and what do you class as mixing?

I beatmix at some point at nearly every gig. It's helps create a smooth flow and nice transitions when needed.

Does it make you a bad DJ for not beatmixing? Absolutely not. It's not essential but it's a good tool to have at your disposal.

[Dynamic Entertainment]

I beatmix at some point at nearly every gig. It's helps create a smooth flow and nice transitions when needed.

Does it make you a bad DJ for not beatmixing? Absolutely not. It's not essential but it's a good tool to have at your disposal.

And in this day and age with accurate beat counters, its a piece of p... erm... cake :D

[Shaun]

And in this day and age with accurate beat counters, its a piece of p... erm... cake :D

It's a piece of perm cake? :d

[StarZSoundS]

Doesnt make you a bad DJ but do you not want to learn how to?



OOOOOHHHHHHH....yes please!!:) :) :)

I bet it would treble my bookings!!!;) ;)

Its the first thing a prospective Bride asks me!!:D :D :D :D

[rob1963]

I think beatmixing is more appropriate in clubs (or possibly at 18ths) than at a wedding...where I play all sorts of different types of music from the last 6 or 7 decades.

[DeckstarDeluxe]

OOOOOHHHHHHH....yes please!!:) :) :)

I bet it would treble my bookings!!!;) ;)

Its the first thing a prospective Bride asks me!!:D :D :D :D


While you might laugh Martin......

Learning to mix helps further peoples understanding of how music is constructed, what different elements are in a certain song and what parts people notice more than others. It took me best part of a year learning to beat match and mix and during that time I wont lie I nearly gave up loads, I one threw a pair of headphones at my wall in anger and ended up smashing a glass frame. However I kept at it and not only can I now beatmatch etc... but its helped me learn to listen to music to help aid me in the whole playing the right record at the right time.

[Cj_The_Dj]

Following another thread about what part of Mixers do you not use, and cross fader was the biggest thing, alot of people said they mix.

So im a DJ that dose not mix or beat match.. but if a song fails i can fade the song and play the next at a appropriate time,

So im wondering who dose mix and what type of gig do you do if for,

and dose it make me a bad DJ for not mixing?

and what do you class as mixing?

[rob1963]

Following another thread about what part of Mixers do you not use, and cross fader was the biggest thing, alot of people said they mix.

So im a DJ that dose not mix or beat match.. but if a song fails i can fade the song and play the next at a appropriate time,

So im wondering who dose mix and what type of gig do you do if for,

and dose it make me a bad DJ for not mixing?

and what do you class as mixing?

I must have had too many vodkas...I'm sure I saw this post at the beginning of the thread.

:confused:

[StarZSoundS]

While you might laugh Martin......

Learning to mix helps further peoples understanding of how music is constructed, what different elements are in a certain song and what parts people notice more than others. It took me best part of a year learning to beat match and mix and during that time I wont lie I nearly gave up loads, I one threw a pair of headphones at my wall in anger and ended up smashing a glass frame. However I kept at it and not only can I now beatmatch etc... but its helped me learn to listen to music to help aid me in the whole playing the right record at the right time.


I can't comment Neil....but you put forward a fair argument for it...

I too love music...probably in a different way.I know I have a very good ear for a fine tune...and an instinct to follow a good choice of track with a further good one ...wether they are both 130 BPM or not!!;) ;) ;)

[Cj_The_Dj]

I must have had too many vodkas...I'm sure I saw this post at the beginning of the thread.

:confused:


sorry my pc playing up, so ive been copying my post just in case...

and it did crash,,so i pasted it, but must have been wrong one.. it been a long day. lo

[rob1963]

Learning to mix helps further peoples understanding of how music is constructed, what different elements are in a certain song and what parts people notice more than others.

You can achieve that to a far greater extent by learning a musical instrument for 10 years & taking a number of music exams, both practical & in the theory of music.

;)

[Cj_The_Dj]

Old skool way? Remind me what that approach is?

I mixed when using vinyl in my living room, I mixed using cds on my denons? Ive mixed on pc software too (its not just about beatmatching either)

Well im not sure, but i am seen retro guy work, and on twin decks and they

cue up a track so it stat 1st beat and just play them back to back with some talking overlapping the tracks (not for every track)

and that similar to what I do.

[DeckstarDeluxe]

I can't comment Neil....but you put forward a fair argument for it...

I too love music...probably in a different way.I know I have a very good ear for a fine tune...and an instinct to follow a good choice of track with a further good one ...wether they are both 130 BPM or not!!;) ;) ;)


True, say Im djing at your "average" wedding Im not basing my track selection on bpm, however if Im playing something around 100bpm I'll generally look for something 95-105 to help aid a smooth crossover, or if theres a similiar vibe or tempo I'll consider that too. Same goes for having tracks that come in just at the right point when the outgoing song is ending or suddenly drops off etc...

[DeckstarDeluxe]

You can achieve that to a far greater extent by learning a musical instrument for 10 years & taking a number of music exams, both practical & in the theory of music.

;)

Blowing your own trumpet there Mr James? :D

[rob1963]

Blowing your own trumpet there Mr James? :D

I just thought I'd try a positive post about something I achieved...to see how many people would have a go at me for being positive!

:D :D :D

I was just trying to make the point that there are far better ways to learn about music & its construction etc than by learning how to mix.

[DeckstarDeluxe]

I just thought I'd try a positive post about something I achieved to see how many people would have a go at me for being positive or massaging my own ego!

:D :D :D

Anyways.......back on topic

CJ, what I will say is if your wanting to learn how to beatmatch etc... its not that easy if your going to do it properly, your almost having to rewire how your brain works so you can listen to two songs side by side at the same time and work out which ones slower etc......

Of course you can use the auto sync function on dj software but it wont sound right. This is when you start learning about the 4/4 and 16bars rules.

Trance and house I found to be the easiest to learn with

[WWDJ]

Yes i do mix where possible to give a better transition from one song to another. it's not always possible though so I just fade in fade out or chop from one song to another

[BeerFunk]

There isn't much call for beat-mixing in most mobile situations, but the best mobile DJs should be able to, in my opinion. Also, it doesn't need to be a 32/64 beat mix, it can be as little as 4 in some cases!

[Leicester Ben]

I always mix, and choose the next song to play based on the BPM for the majority of the night, I find it works really well.

I taught myself over the years how to mix and find it second nature now, i also find hat it makes the time go faster as there is less time for me to be bored at a gig :)

[Dynamic Entertainment]

Anyways.......back on topic

CJ, what I will say is if your wanting to learn how to beatmatch etc... its not that easy if your going to do it properly, your almost having to rewire how your brain works so you can listen to two songs side by side at the same time and work out which ones slower etc......

Of course you can use the auto sync function on dj software but it wont sound right. This is when you start learning about the 4/4 and 16bars rules.

Trance and house I found to be the easiest to learn with

Really, hard house is far simpler IMO. :)

[DeckstarDeluxe]

Really, hard house is far simpler IMO. :)


Never tried hard house, well I did have some in the collection but Im all about the funky stuff which rarely goes over 128 and all of the harder stuff is higher than that.

I also had an really great book called how to dj properly and even in there it said trance was by far the easiest genre to learn

[Penfold42]

I beatmix at some point at nearly every gig. It's helps create a smooth flow and nice transitions when needed.

Does it make you a bad DJ for not beatmixing? Absolutely not. It's not essential but it's a good tool to have at your disposal.

:agree:

I do some but it has to be the right music to work for me. I've really got to grips with the Denon....you can do allsorts with it. :cool:

[Dynamic Entertainment]

Never tried hard house, well I did have some in the collection but Im all about the funky stuff which rarely goes over 128 and all of the harder stuff is higher than that.

I also had an really great book called how to dj properly and even in there it said trance was by far the easiest genre to learn

Not much in it to be fair. HH has a erm..harder :D ... well more prominent beat.

Im still into the hard stuff, but house has always been my preferred genre. You should check out the hard funk stuff thats kicking about now. Hard house, but funky (kind of what the Tidy Boys were doing years ago with the Untidy Dubs).

http://soundcloud.com/awsumfunk/andy-whitby-scott-fo-shaw-cannonball

[DeckstarDeluxe]

Not much in it to be fair. HH has a erm..harder :D ... well more prominent beat.

Im still into the hard stuff, but house has always been my preferred genre. You should check out the hard funk stuff thats kicking about now. Hard house, but funky (kind of what the Tidy Boys were doing years ago with the Untidy Dubs).

http://soundcloud.com/awsumfunk/andy-whitby-scott-fo-shaw-cannonball


See I had some tidy Boys stuff....trying to remember what the label was called tidy traxx I think?

Anyways wasnt quite my cup of tea and all my purchases after awhile were funky bargrooves style.

Each to their own, naturally if you like a certain style of music it makes it easier

[Mark Wild]

I do a bit of everything tbh, but I would have thought most DJ's should be able to mix/beatmatch to some extent.

(can we post soundcloud mixes of our own on here?)

[Dynamic Entertainment]

See I had some tidy Boys stuff....trying to remember what the label was called tidy traxx I think?

Anyways wasnt quite my cup of tea and all my purchases after awhile were funky bargrooves style.

Each to their own, naturally if you like a certain style of music it makes it easier

Yeah Tidy Trax was the outlet for the Tidy Boys. But i bet you have some Untidy dubs in your collection. They usually featured on Positiva releases...

YouTube- A Vs B - Ripped In Two Minutes (Untidy Dub)(TO)

[DeckstarDeluxe]

I do a bit of everything tbh, but I would have thought most DJ's should be able to mix/beatmatch to some extent.

(can we post soundcloud mixes of our own on here?)


You know I'd love to have an area of the forum where we could post our own mixes, better than listening to your requests on Scotts radio show anyways :P

[Shaun]

(can we post soundcloud mixes of our own on here?)

Unfortunately not.

[Mark Wild]

You know I'd love to have an area of the forum where we could post our own mixes, better than listening to your requests on Scotts radio show anyways :P

Shut it :D I posted a mix I'd done on here a while back but it got deleted due to possible copyright infringements which is fair enough, but might have been the site itself, just wondered if soundcloud was alright to use and post on here? Be good to hear some of the mixes from the MDD lads :beer1:

Edit: Just ignore me LOL, sorry Shaun I was too slow mate :D

[Dynamic Entertainment]

Unfortunately not.

Its a shame really. Especially when free mix downloads and promo mixes are an intereral part of the dance music scene. But just because it happens, doesnt make it right :o

[nisfo]

I beat mix when I can but when it's not possible due to not being familiar with a track or BPM being way off....I will drop beats into the song like a stutter on the A-B repeat.

I have turned out 3 one hour cd's now with seamless mixing, using cd's.

When using the lappy, I can be creative, but I prefer cd's....lol