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DJWilson
07-07-2010, 10:56 AM
After my last gig I done it got me thinking.


It was a wedding reception two weeks ago and the night came to and end and they was calling for one more, so i played one more and then one after that.

Then I stopped as the venue wants you was by a certain time so I said I couldn't and started packing away when a few of the guests starting getting lippy.

"You're rubbish"

"Under 15s disco"

etc etc.

I kept my cool and didn't respond and just pretened they wasn't there. Thinking about it they were sad one's at a "unders 15s disco" and to top it off was dancing and singing along most of the night...

Basically I was just wondering if you play "one more" or just go? And what do you do/if anything if some of the guests start getting gobby.

Thanks.

DJ Tony McQue
07-07-2010, 11:07 AM
8654

:)

Vectis
07-07-2010, 11:10 AM
"Finish" about 10 minutes before time and if it's not obvious by the music choices that you're about to wrap up, then make lots of announcements leading up to the last couple of tunes.

Then, after the last song, drop most of the lights but leave just a couple on.

Wait for the call, and invite one if you don't get one.

Then slam another tune on.

About halfway through, get the house lights raised to max, and start switching off your own. End of song - no disco lights at all, just house lighting. They'll generally get the message :beer1:

rob1963
07-07-2010, 11:12 AM
We've had this before.

Venues have licences until a certain time, and the staff want to get home as well. Also, if you over-run, the venue are unlikely to recommend you, so you could actually end up losing work over this. On top of all that, it's simply unprofessional not to finish at the time stated on the booking form.

I am a professional DJ. Therefore, if the finish time is 12 midnight, I finish no later than 30 seconds after this time & never play one more. If you DO play one more, they'll then shout out for another "one more" after it...so where does it end?

The only time I might play one more after the finishing time is when I'm in a marquee on private property, where licencing obviously isn't an issue...but those situations are very rare.

If people come up & get lippy after I've finished, I just say "I'm sorry, but the manager said I have to finish at xx on the dot" sometimes adding "and I can't afford to get blacklisted by the venue, because this is my living"

I also think it's a good idea to end on a couple of slowies, as people are less likely to shout out for one more than if you finish on something fast that has them all going mad on the dance floor.

Solitaire Events Ltd
07-07-2010, 11:12 AM
I never play one more as it leads to exactly what has been described by the OP.

JTRS
07-07-2010, 11:12 AM
"Finish" about 10 minutes before time and if it's not obvious by the music choices that you're about to wrap up, then make lots of announcements leading up to the last couple of tunes.

Then, after the last song, drop most of the lights but leave just a couple on.

Wait for the call, and invite one if you don't get one.

Then slam another tune on.

About halfway through, get the house lights raised to max, and start switching off your own. End of song - no disco lights at all, just house lighting. They'll generally get the message :beer1:

That pretty much sums up what I do, I usually make the last one something bouncy they can sing along to like 500 miles or Don't Stop Me Now

JTRS

rob1963
07-07-2010, 11:15 AM
I never play one more as it leads to exactly what has been described by the OP.

:thumbsup:

Megamix
07-07-2010, 11:20 AM
turning on the house lights is the best way - sometimes venues don't have rigid end times and the organisers can chip in and ask you to carry on - I usually get away with one or two more but beyond that you just need to stand firm with a smile and disconnect things!

womble
07-07-2010, 11:49 AM
I've had people asking for one more about 10 minutes after the last song finished. All the house lights on, deck stand flat on the floor being packed away, all wires disconnected and things being put back in boxes and people come up and say "Can't you just play another one for me? It's a good one"

:bang:

discomobiledj
07-07-2010, 01:30 PM
I make announcements 60 mins before the end, then 30, 15, 10 minutes before the end. I always say that there are x amount of songs left blah blah blah.

I had a disco at one venue where the owner told me that they had had a dj who turned up with a laptop, a couple of PC speakers and a sub and then played on til 1.30am even though the licence at the venue was until 12.00.

He was told repeatedly to stop playing by the owner of the venue who in the end switched the electric off to the stage.

JTRS
07-07-2010, 01:36 PM
I've had people asking for one more about 10 minutes after the last song finished. All the house lights on, deck stand flat on the floor being packed away, all wires disconnected and things being put back in boxes and people come up and say "Can't you just play another one for me? It's a good one"

:bang:

Yeah I've had that, my reply was 'Can you just give me 30 minutes whilst I connect it all up again?', my sarcasm was wasted because he replied 'Yes', to which I told him I was joking.

JTRS

Shaun
07-07-2010, 01:38 PM
I tend to finish bang on time, and venues appreciate that. Once the last song is finished the cables to the speakers are taken out right away. If there are calls for "one more" I'll politely point out the the sound systems is now disconnected. Does the trick.

soundmaster mobile disco
07-07-2010, 01:56 PM
I never play one more as it leads to exactly what has been described by the OP.



This is Very true.I now stand my ground and say no more.

notroubleclubber
07-07-2010, 02:03 PM
I normally announce that this is the last song and play it. In the meantime i ask the staff if one more is ok if asked. If not then im fininshed and say goodnight and if ok adn been a good night ive already got it cued and fade the lights up near the end of the track.

Mark Wild
07-07-2010, 02:36 PM
No "one mores" from me :D

OllieJames
07-07-2010, 02:51 PM
Last song is last song. One time, I had played the last track - and managed to get the speakers & lights down with Tay in a few minutes. A woman then came up and asked us to play one more, we pointed out that the system was disconnected - so she asked us to plug it all in again! Daft mare!

WWDJ
07-07-2010, 03:07 PM
If I am in my regular venue then I have a really good relationship with the boss, so he lets me know in advance if 'one more' is allowable or not. If not I do a false ending and then 'one more'. If the night is a bit lame, then I just end with no more.

If I am in a new venue I usually do the false ending to finish bang on time and say that the venue wont allow any more after that.

I do like the shouts of 'one more' ... I like to be the centre of attention .. just for a moment.

Excalibur
07-07-2010, 03:34 PM
I never play one more as it leads to exactly what has been described by the OP.


:thumbsup:
Plus one.


turning on the house lights is the best way - sometimes venues don't have rigid end times and the organisers can chip in and ask you to carry on - I usually get away with one or two more but beyond that you just need to stand firm with a smile and disconnect things!
I used to be resident in a venue where a member of staff stood poised in readiness by the house light switches, waiting for the magic words. No, not " Izzy Wizzy, let's get busy" but, " Thank you very much, good night and God bless. "


I tend to finish bang on time, and venues appreciate that. Once the last song is finished the cables to the speakers are taken out right away. If there are calls for "one more" I'll politely point out the the sound systems is now disconnected. Does the trick.
The only way.


No "one mores" from me :D
See above.


There's a " Yesteryear " thread imminent again, I'll say more about over running in that.

DeckstarDeluxe
07-07-2010, 03:57 PM
If I am in my regular venue then I have a really good relationship with the boss, so he lets me know in advance if 'one more' is allowable or not. If not I do a false ending and then 'one more'. If the night is a bit lame, then I just end with no more.

If I am in a new venue I usually do the false ending to finish bang on time and say that the venue wont allow any more after that.

I do like the shouts of 'one more' ... I like to be the centre of attention .. just for a moment.

Same here. Very much a decision taken at the time rather than set in stone however I never play beyond the licensed time by the venue and point out that the venue dont allow me to play beyond. If they insist I will say if the venue owner tells me personally then I'll play one more. Never once had the owner say its ok however you get plenty that say "Oh he said it was ok" yeah right wasnt born yesterday!

Shakermaker Promotions
07-07-2010, 04:19 PM
I do a lot of what has already been said.
Around 15 minutes before the end, I will announce that I have a couple of songs left and I will say it clearly so that everyone can hear me. Generally I will announce the last song so that it finishes with 5 minutes to spare so that if anyone shouts out "One more!", I can play it and still finish on time. When the song is playing I will get someone to turn the lights on or I'll go and do it myself and then turn the lights off on the rig.

Mark Wild
07-07-2010, 04:25 PM
It's not "one more" if you play it during your contracted time surely.

:sofa:

jon s
07-07-2010, 04:45 PM
I agree with wahts been said here. Finish on time and no 'one more', or else where do you draw the line. The contract states a finish time. Would the people asking for one more do unpaid overtime? The venue dictate a finish time for a reason licensing laws and staff hours etc.

Megamix
07-07-2010, 05:43 PM
I agree with calling time but sometimes you can be compromised by (for example) someone who books you regularly and you may be in danger of upsetting future bookings by saying no.

Excalibur
07-07-2010, 06:44 PM
I agree with calling time but sometimes you can be compromised by (for example) someone who books you regularly and you may be in danger of upsetting future bookings by saying no.

It matters not a jot. You politely point out that you finish when the venue management say you will. Otherwise they will remonstrate with you. In a forceful, forthright and painful manner. :eek:

If you are in a venue bereft of management to shift the responsibility onto, ( private gig in barn, shed, garage etc ) you may have to point out that in order to enjoy music after the contracted finish time, they must first cross your palm with silver.

DJWilson
07-07-2010, 06:49 PM
Thanks for all your feedback/opinions. I'm gonna test run the 'early one more' scheme this Friday if I feel "one more" will be asked for at the end. Either way ending on the time stated by the contract.

Mark Wild
07-07-2010, 06:56 PM
Thanks for all your feedback/opinions. I'm gonna test run the 'early one more' scheme this Friday if I feel "one more" will be asked for at the end. Either way ending on the time stated by the contract.

To the shouts of "There's 5 minutes left still!!!" lol

DJWilson
07-07-2010, 06:59 PM
To the shouts of "There's 5 minutes left still!!!" lol


After a few pints chance's are it'll be "There's :Censored: 5 minutes left stil!!!" :p

DJ Jules
07-07-2010, 08:02 PM
I normally check with the venue manager at the start what the licensing policy is and what their policy is on doing "one more" so I know where I am from the start.

If the policy is no more, then I announce the last few songs and invite people to suggest the final song (if I don't already have a clear idea what they're going to want to finish on), then announce the last song and (depending on the song) thank everyone for being a great crowd and say good night during the intro, and then at the end, that's it.

If the venue has more lenient licensing and the staff are ok with it, then I'll usually check with the venue manager what it's ok to do (i.e. one more, or 30mins more!) and then play what the crowd want - but I won't usually do it unless people come up with specific requests.

Julian

Twinspin
07-07-2010, 08:55 PM
in my experience i dont make any announcements telling people 1 hour half hour and so on before because some bride and grooms might think this is a little bit rude counting down till the end and i really dont want to be in that danger with a bride and groom or any of the main people at the wedding.

10 minutes before the end ill pick up the microphone.

"Ladies and Gentleman im afraid thats all we have got time for this evening. Congratulations for the future to (insert bride and grooms name)

Also ladies and Gentleman could we have a round of applause for all the management and bar staff at the (insert venue here)

I hope you have all enjoyed yourselves this evening. Have yourselves a very safe journey home. Thanks and goodnight"

soundtracker
07-07-2010, 10:26 PM
in my experience i dont make any announcements telling people 1 hour half hour and so on before because some bride and grooms might think this is a little bit rude counting down till the end and i really dont want to be in that danger with a bride and groom or any of the main people at the wedding.

10 minutes before the end ill pick up the microphone.

"Ladies and Gentleman im afraid thats all we have got time for this evening. Congratulations for the future to (insert bride and grooms name)

Also ladies and Gentleman could we have a round of applause for all the management and bar staff at the (insert venue here)

I hope you have all enjoyed yourselves this evening. Have yourselves a very safe journey home. Thanks and goodnight"

You must speak very slowly to make that last ten minutes!!!:D

rob1963
07-07-2010, 11:01 PM
I normally check with the venue manager at the start what the licensing policy is and what their policy is on doing "one more" so I know where I am from the start.

You don't need to ask about their policy on doing one more, as that's irrelevant. Just ask them what time the music must finish (like I do).

I'm speechless at some of the weird & wonderful stories in this thread about doing a fake ending 10 minutes before you're due to finish so you can then pretend to play one or two more.

I don't think that misleading people is very professional.

:shrug:

Mark Wild
07-07-2010, 11:06 PM
I'm speechless at some of the weird & wonderful stories in this thread about doing a fake ending 10 minutes before you're due to finish so you can then pretend to play one or two more.


:shrug:

I find that amusing also LOL

DeckstarDeluxe
07-07-2010, 11:11 PM
called an encore Rob!

rob1963
07-07-2010, 11:18 PM
called an encore Rob!

No it's not.

An encore is an additional performance.

If you're booked until midnight but pretend to stop at 11.50 and then say you'll play a couple more, you'll still end at midnight...so where's the additional performance?

:confused:

Mark Wild
07-07-2010, 11:18 PM
called an encore Rob!

But an encore would be after you've finished your official slot :muppet:

DeckstarDeluxe
07-07-2010, 11:20 PM
But an encore would be after you've finished your official slot :muppet:


Noo...

what you do is change every clock in the venue 5 minutes fast :D

Mark Wild
07-07-2010, 11:22 PM
Noo...

what you do is change every clock in the venue 5 minutes fast :D

:lol: Genius !

Dynamic Entertainment
07-07-2010, 11:29 PM
What if you played the "last" track at 11.50....and no one shouted for One More? You've finished before your contracted time....

rob1963
07-07-2010, 11:32 PM
What if you played the "last" track at 11.50....and no one shouted for One More? You've finished before your contracted time....

Exactly!

These fake finishes have got to be one of the most rubbish ideas I've ever seen on this forum!

Hardly a best practice, if you ask me!

:confused:

Mark Wild
07-07-2010, 11:40 PM
I make announcements 60 mins before the end, then 30, 15, 10 minutes before the end. I always say that there are x amount of songs left blah blah blah.


That's a bit strange too imo " There's 60 minutes left ladies and gentlemen, that's 14 songs and the bit remaining on the one I'm talking over at the momemt"

LOL wtf man

The fake finish is ridiculous too.

Shaun
07-07-2010, 11:46 PM
That's a bit strange too imo " There's 60 minutes left ladies and gentlemen, that's 14 songs and the bit remaining on the one I'm talking over at the momemt"


If I was a punter I'd find the DJ doing that rather annoying. I want to just enjoy my time there, and not be reminded at intervals just how little time I have left to party.

rob1963
07-07-2010, 11:47 PM
That's a bit strange too imo " There's 60 minutes left ladies and gentlemen, that's 14 songs and the bit remaining on the one I'm talking over at the momemt"

LOL wtf man



:Laugh:

StarZSoundS
08-07-2010, 06:34 AM
I must be the only one again then.....

I love it when they are shouting for more and feel compelled to respond.Don't normally have a problem with any of the Venue Managers....Whats an extra 5 or 10 minuites???It can be the icing on the cake for the couple!!:) :) :)


If thats bad practise....so be it!!!:eek: :eek: :eek:


I'd have loved to see some of you lot or your Wedding Nights:devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: ???

Excalibur
08-07-2010, 06:51 AM
I must be the only one again then.....

I love it when they are shouting for more and feel compelled to respond.Don't normally have a problem with any of the Venue Managers....Whats an extra 5 or 10 minuites???It can be the icing on the cake for the couple!!:) :) :)


If thats bad practise....so be it!!!:eek: :eek: :eek:



You are. It is.

StarZSoundS
08-07-2010, 07:15 AM
You are.

We'll See???

Nobody on here ever done an extra 5 or 10 minuites??:confused: :confused: :confused:


I have a really big hunch that we have all done it at least once!!;) ;) ;) ;)

Excalibur
08-07-2010, 07:59 AM
We'll See???

Nobody on here ever done an extra 5 or 10 minuites??:confused: :confused: :confused:


I have a really big hunch that we have all done it at least once!!;) ;) ;) ;)

That was then. This is now. ;) There's a thread on the Old Days imminent. :D If you didn't overrun by at least half an hour, you wonedred if you'd done something wrong. I have some stories to tell. ;) ;)

rob1963
08-07-2010, 09:05 AM
If thats bad practise....so be it!!!:eek: :eek: :eek:


You are. It is.

Indeed.


Nobody on here ever done an extra 5 or 10 minuites??:confused: :confused: :confused:

Not in the last 10 years if it takes me past the finishing time (unless I'm in a house or marquee on private property).

When I arrive at the venue, the one thing I always ask staff it what time the music must stop. They usually say midnight, in which case I finish at midnight. If they said five past twelve, I'd finish at that time.

I've spoken to a number of venue staff over recent years who have moaned about discos that don't finish when they're meant to (one guy even had to unplug the disco from the wall socket to make him stop!)...but I've never had venue staff moaning about a disco for finishing on time.

Like it or not, ignoring the finish time is bad practice, as it's unprofessional, it alienates venue staff & therefore reduces your chances of them recommending you to future clients.

StarZSoundS
08-07-2010, 09:30 AM
Indeed.



Not in the last 10 years if it takes me past the finishing time (unless I'm in a house or marquee on private property).



Like it or not, ignoring the finish time is bad practice, as it's unprofessional,

One to me Peter!!:) :) :)



Rob......did you realise you have contradicted yourself!!!:confused: :confused:



The thread needs rehashing to reflect the diverse nature of the work we get involved in.....:) :)

I'm sure people are majoring on not upsetting venues(which is fair comment).......Not all of my work is at venues with Managers who have strict time constraints...:eek: :eek:

Then there is the issue of wether I still want to go on...as I may be enjoying it:) :) :) :) Surely I have that option???


Peter ....as you said in another thread......Its all got too serious nowadays!!

gaza
08-07-2010, 09:47 AM
Plus one.


I used to be resident in a venue where a member of staff stood poised in readiness by the house light switches, waiting for the magic words. No, not " Izzy Wizzy, let's get busy" but, " Thank you very much, good night and God bless. "


The only way.


See above.


There's a " Yesteryear " thread imminent again, I'll say more about over running in that.


8676 and much love

Vectis
08-07-2010, 10:49 AM
Even at high energy gigs I usually play a couple of slower songs right before the last or sendoff song, even if that's just a couple of grinding slower R:Censored: B numbers so I generally just give out the one call to the effect of

"We've reached that point in the evening where it's time to slow things down a touch"

and then then the last song doesn't come as a surprise!


If a B&G have specified a last song, that's the last song. Period.

If it's anything other than a wedding then I usually pull the 10 minutes early trick so I can slide one more in and STILL finish a few minutes ahead of time ;)

Solitaire Events Ltd
08-07-2010, 10:53 AM
Whats an extra 5 or 10 minuites???I

Working for free, which I don't generally do and it's an extra 5 or 10 minutes for the venue staff to wait, who may have been there very long hours and will not appreciate it.

NKR
08-07-2010, 11:02 AM
No one-mores from me. Dead on time and that is your lot.

Got me into a row with a drunken fool once many years ago, which result in him taking a swing at me (he missed) and Kev followed up by pushing him head first into the fire door. I loved the old days. I now never use the throw away line "I'm paid to x so that's when I stop". That was well into this pointless conversation with the idiot, which had been through licensing hours, other staff wanting to clear up, etc.

It didn't kick off beyond then as the woman who's brithday it had been got him dragged out and apologised to us. He was a proper idiot.

Playing beyond time generally gets you into arguements as why is one persons one more, higher priority than anothers, so despite it going wrong once, its something we do stick to.

Twinspin
08-07-2010, 11:47 AM
We'll See???

Nobody on here ever done an extra 5 or 10 minuites??:confused: :confused: :confused:


I have a really big hunch that we have all done it at least once!!;) ;) ;) ;)

Ive gone over time a few times. But the venue management arent happy bunnies.

there is another way to slot one more track in... Put your clocks back 5 minutes :D Then if the manager says anything my watch is five minutes slow.

Shaun
08-07-2010, 02:16 PM
what's an extra 5 or 10 minutes???!

Venues have music licenses they have to adhere to. If the DJ is booked till midnight and the venue is only licensed for music till midnight , then an extra five or ten minutes is a big deal for the venue.

Megamix
08-07-2010, 02:43 PM
Peter ....as you said in another thread......Its all got too serious nowadays!!

Does seem that way - lets celebrate our differences not all conform to stereotypical behaviour :)

Dynamic Entertainment
08-07-2010, 03:01 PM
I have a regular venue where they entertainment has to finish at 11pm...but the bar is open til 12 :bang:...thats a right f:Censored: up and annoying because the venue is still "open".

JTRS
08-07-2010, 03:22 PM
I have a regular venue where they entertainment has to finish at 11pm...but the bar is open til 12 :bang:...thats a right f:Censored: up and annoying because the venue is still "open".

I have a few regular venues that insist on the music going off when the bar shuts, so the customers get their last orders in and then have a full pint (or whatever) whilst I am trying to set-down and get my gear out.

JTRS

StarZSoundS
08-07-2010, 03:23 PM
Does seem that way - lets celebrate our differences not all conform to stereotypical behaviour :)

But Dave it looks like its just me that is owning up to the great sin of lengthening the evening a tad!!


A lot of the Venue Managers/Liscencees/Committee Members love it when I go over....The Guests stay longer...spend more.iIts up to them to square it with the Staff!!

Don't get me wrong.....I don't do it all the time.You would never catch me doing it in my Day-Job...because I don't like it much....However I love DJing(most of the time)...so feel its up to me if I want to go over!!:bang: :bang: :bang:

Shaun
08-07-2010, 03:39 PM
so feel its up to me if I want to go over!!:bang: :bang: :bang:

I completely disagree. When you're in the venue it's up to them what time the entertainment stops. A good and respectful working relationship with venues are an absolute vital necessity in this game. If they say midnight finish then I wouldn't dream of going over.

Mark Wild
08-07-2010, 03:46 PM
so feel its up to me if I want to go over!!:bang: :bang: :bang:

That's good solid professional attitude there Martin, well done you :clap:

StarZSoundS
08-07-2010, 03:46 PM
I completely disagree. When you're in the venue it's up to them what time the entertainment stops. A good and respectful working relationship with venues are an absolute vital necessity in this game. If they say midnight finish then I wouldn't dream of going over.


And its about working together too.I am first choice DJ at four venues.I know when to do it and how.Working relationships!!:) :) :) :)

Dynamic Entertainment
08-07-2010, 03:47 PM
No dig at anyone here, but i think it depends on the kind of venue in which you work as to whether or not playing beyond your finish time is acceptable.

When i was doing WMC's/Legions/and the like, it was a case of "if its busy and the punters are drinking, by all means keep going" (as long as the client agrees to my overtime fee).

The venues im now working in...not a chance of playing past the time stated.

What i now do in venues im not familiar with, is i ask what time they want me to finish...purely because ive had a couple of occasions where the client has specified, say, 1am...but the venue say midnight. It was purely clients trying to push their luck.

DJWilson
08-07-2010, 03:50 PM
What i now do in venues im not familiar with, is i ask what time they want me to finish...purely because ive had a couple of occasions where the client has specified, say, 1am...but the venue say midnight. It was purely clients trying to push their luck.

I had this for a gig at the end of the month. The client said til 1.30am but I know for a fact (and double checked with the manager of the venue) that it kick's out at 12.00am. :bang:

StarZSoundS
08-07-2010, 04:07 PM
No dig at anyone here, but i think it depends on the kind of venue in which you work as to whether or not playing beyond your finish time is acceptable.



I'll not take it as a dig.....its a compliment.:) :D :) :D

That type of Venue would account for quite a lot of DJ's on here as well...the trouble is a lot of them seem shy about it....:eek: :eek: :eek:


But the beauty of it is......I can do either or both:) :) :) :)

Dynamic Entertainment
08-07-2010, 04:08 PM
I'll not take it as a dig.....its a compliment.:) :D :) :D

That type of Venue would account for quite a lot of DJ's on here as well...the trouble is a lot of them seem shy about it....:eek: :eek: :eek:


But the beauty of it is......I can do either or both:) :) :) :)

And ive no doutb that your business ethics for a large hotel chain would be somewhat different than the local legion.... ;)

rob1963
08-07-2010, 04:09 PM
What i now do in venues im not familiar with, is i ask what time they want me to finish...purely because ive had a couple of occasions where the client has specified, say, 1am...but the venue say midnight. It was purely clients trying to push their luck.

Exactly.

The one thing I always ask staff at the venue is what time the music must finish. It's usually the time I was expecting, so that's exactly when I finish.

Sometimes I'm given a later finish time by the venue than I was expecting, in which case I tell them the client has only booked me until xxx, so that's when I'll finish.

On some occasions, I've also been given an earlier finish time than the client stated on my booking form, in which case I'll speak to the client & let them know that the venue have told me I must finish at xx.

StarZSoundS
08-07-2010, 04:25 PM
And ive no doutb that your business ethics for a large hotel chain would be somewhat different than the local legion.... ;)

But of course......

Why limit your Market tho......??Do you remember how desperate things were on here in Jan/Feb/Mar......Its only just round the corner again!!








The one thing I always ask staff at the venue is what time the music must finish. It's usually the time I was expecting, so that's exactly when I finish.



Rob .....


I can understand how you feel......If I were still going out with eight Pinspots I would want them down at the earliest opportunity.....probably before I even put them up!!!:devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:

Solitaire Events Ltd
08-07-2010, 05:10 PM
A lot of the Venue Managers/Liscencees/Committee Members love it when I go over....The Guests stay longer...spend more.i

In nearly all the venues I work, the bar shuts before the disco finishes, so that seems a strange comment to me, unless they are encouraging illegal drinking and lock ins?

DeckstarDeluxe
08-07-2010, 05:20 PM
Sorry Martin but what works for you doesnt work for most of us other jocks including myself. While Im being paid by my client if they state a finishing time beyond 12pm I'll inform them about music licenses at venues etc... and I check at the start of the night too. Any issues I inform the customer then.

Whatever you do you'll get the drunken idiots at the end of the night asking for me regardless of the valid reasons you present.

This doesnt mean I wouldnt love to carry on sometimes Martin but we are passionate as much as professional and that means keeping the venues onboard.

Excalibur
08-07-2010, 05:23 PM
In nearly all the venues I work, the bar shuts before the disco finishes, so that seems a strange comment to me, unless they are encouraging illegal drinking and lock ins?

Not necessarily, though I understand your point totally. I work from time to time at a couple of venues where I have rarely been asked to call "Time". As I understand it, since they are members clubs, ( and also in the middle of nowhere) if they feel they have sufficient paying customers to justify it, they keep selling, and I keep playing ( for a commensurate remuneration, obviously )

rob1963
08-07-2010, 05:23 PM
If I were still going out with eight Pinspots I would want them down at the earliest opportunity.....probably before I even put them up

Why? :confused:

Pinspots are also known as PAR 36, and par cans of various sizes have been around in the mobile disco industry for many years, and will probably be around for many years to come. So what if I haven't converted to the LED type? Are all your lights LED then?

If they're not your cup of tea, fair enough...but if I saw a photo of your set up I'm sure there would be things that weren't MY cup of tea!

JTRS
08-07-2010, 11:43 PM
In nearly all the venues I work, the bar shuts before the disco finishes, so that seems a strange comment to me, unless they are encouraging illegal drinking and lock ins?

When the licensing laws were relaxed and venues could apply for extensions a lot around here did just that, however, most of the ones I work in are licensed until the early hours but if it's not busy then they close the bar, so it's not unusual at some venues for the finish time to get extended (subject to the customer paying extra).

JTRS

StarZSoundS
08-07-2010, 11:49 PM
When the licensing laws were relaxed and venues could apply for extensions a lot around here did just that, however, most of the ones I work in are licensed until the early hours but if it's not busy then they close the bar, so it's not unusual at some venues for the finish time to get extended (subject to the customer paying extra).

JTRS

Thanks Simon....who lives 7 miles from me.I was beginning to think I was in a different business!!!:) :)

djsteve10
09-07-2010, 08:54 AM
So long as it is ok with the venue and the management then I don't have a problem with it if it was a good night.

I have some cracking jobs and done an hours over time for free just because the people were a pleasure to work with.

Javlingames
09-07-2010, 10:32 AM
In nearly all the venues I work, the bar shuts before the disco finishes, so that seems a strange comment to me, unless they are encouraging illegal drinking and lock ins?

You dont do many hotels then?

Solitaire Events Ltd
09-07-2010, 10:59 AM
You dont do many hotels then?

I do mostly Hotels and they all close the bar before the entertainment finishes.

StarZSoundS
09-07-2010, 11:08 AM
So long as it is ok with the venue and the management then I don't have a problem with it if it was a good night.

I have some cracking jobs and done an hours over time for free just because the people were a pleasure to work with.


Theres a trend developing here....

Martin....Barnsley...
Simon....Wakefield...
Steve....Leeds....

20 mile Radius.Former Clubland.Where people enjoy themselves...;) ;)

Where Men are Men ....and Sheep are careful!:eek: :eek: :eek:

Javlingames
09-07-2010, 11:13 AM
I do mostly Hotels and they all close the bar before the entertainment finishes.

I thought hotels leave the bar open all night for their residents.

Solitaire Events Ltd
09-07-2010, 11:19 AM
I thought hotels leave the bar open all night for their residents.

I am talking about private functions in Hotels.

Excalibur
09-07-2010, 11:37 AM
I do mostly Hotels and they all close the bar before the entertainment finishes.
Standard practice, I'd have said.


Theres a trend developing here....

Martin....Barnsley...
Simon....Wakefield...
Steve....Leeds....

20 mile Radius.Former Clubland.Where people enjoy themselves...;) ;)

Where Men are Men ....and Sheep are careful!:eek: :eek: :eek:

West Riding. Say no more. ;) ;) ;)

DeckstarDeluxe
10-07-2010, 02:48 AM
I am talking about private functions in Hotels.

My experience too, never once had the bar open after my finishing time.

DeckstarDeluxe
10-07-2010, 03:03 AM
My experience too, never once had the bar open after my finishing time.

close even!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Excalibur
10-07-2010, 08:43 AM
My experience too, never once had the bar open after my finishing time.

Never say never. ;) It's rare as hen's teeth, but I have seen it.

Jonathan Ford
10-07-2010, 09:55 AM
Never say never. ;) It's rare as hen's teeth, but I have seen it.

It happened to me three or four weeks ago, at a wedding. The couple had been back to me with various premutations of the times they wanted me to play, all trying to avoid extra charges (my standard fee is based on a four hour performance), and ended up settling for 1930-2330. I had discussed this with the hotel in advance, so at 2325, on went the last track, and home time!

In keeping with the topic, I'm pretty sure that they figured I'd just carry on playing for free. The father of the bride was certainly pretty miffed that I'd stopped, but not miffed enough to pay for my time.

robbiedj
10-07-2010, 11:28 AM
OK, I'll hold my hands up on this.

I did play "one more" (well, two more actually) at a birthday the other week.




Mind you, it was the Bar Manager who asked me to! :D