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26-10-2010, 09:47 PM
Ok I have a Denon mixer but ifeel this question may cover most 3 band eq mixers.
My denon Mixer DN_500 has three rotary knobs for high mid and low control. As have most of my previous mixers. As I am now running 3 different speaker brands at different times I am finding that it is becoming increasingly difficult to remember the best setting for each speaker in differing enviroments.
Now the question is this. Do the 3 band eq's cover a narrow band width or are they contoured across multiple frequencies.
Now it has been my belief that they are contoured rather than one specific frequeny hence why recently i have been struggling to adapt the settings to such differing cabs.
Now if this is so then the only way to fix this would be to install a full equiliser in the signal chain and fix it that way, maybe one with memory. Downside of this is extra weight and another thing to carry.
But if the eq's are not contoured then it may be a design limitation of the cabs to replicate certain frequencie to my satisfaction.
A little explination of why this is bugging me is that my Db speakers sound amazng with a sub as do my new rcf and my passive mackies.
My old peavey st speakers sounded the same but without a sub. However they could not manage the volume I required by some of my gigs.
The Db can replicate bass very well without subs for certain songs and others it seems that bass is lacking. It doesnt even seem to be particulaly low in the frequency im talking anything from 50 - 90hz.
The rcf are the same however they seem to have problems between 50 - 120 hz
The Mackie seem to follow the curve of the DB so the same problem.
Now for a long time I have run the mackie or the DB's with a sub and when I thought the bass was low I would change the volume from the sub itself rather than via the mixer.
But when I ran them by themselves I was unsure if I should tweak the mixer low volume up to compensate or leave it at the usual 12 oclock postion I normally do.
I am aware that bass makes us deaf very quickly and we adapt as the bass is higher in volume behind the speakers than infront. So I am afraid of increasing the bass in fear that the clients out the front may think the sound has become 'muddy' when to me it may sound right but I have gone 'bass deaf' from behind.
The strange thing is that the sound when listened from a long way away i.e outside room or from outside building. Its sounds perfect.
I think I may be going deaf from using subs to much but would prefer a second opinon on my dilemma,
My denon Mixer DN_500 has three rotary knobs for high mid and low control. As have most of my previous mixers. As I am now running 3 different speaker brands at different times I am finding that it is becoming increasingly difficult to remember the best setting for each speaker in differing enviroments.
Now the question is this. Do the 3 band eq's cover a narrow band width or are they contoured across multiple frequencies.
Now it has been my belief that they are contoured rather than one specific frequeny hence why recently i have been struggling to adapt the settings to such differing cabs.
Now if this is so then the only way to fix this would be to install a full equiliser in the signal chain and fix it that way, maybe one with memory. Downside of this is extra weight and another thing to carry.
But if the eq's are not contoured then it may be a design limitation of the cabs to replicate certain frequencie to my satisfaction.
A little explination of why this is bugging me is that my Db speakers sound amazng with a sub as do my new rcf and my passive mackies.
My old peavey st speakers sounded the same but without a sub. However they could not manage the volume I required by some of my gigs.
The Db can replicate bass very well without subs for certain songs and others it seems that bass is lacking. It doesnt even seem to be particulaly low in the frequency im talking anything from 50 - 90hz.
The rcf are the same however they seem to have problems between 50 - 120 hz
The Mackie seem to follow the curve of the DB so the same problem.
Now for a long time I have run the mackie or the DB's with a sub and when I thought the bass was low I would change the volume from the sub itself rather than via the mixer.
But when I ran them by themselves I was unsure if I should tweak the mixer low volume up to compensate or leave it at the usual 12 oclock postion I normally do.
I am aware that bass makes us deaf very quickly and we adapt as the bass is higher in volume behind the speakers than infront. So I am afraid of increasing the bass in fear that the clients out the front may think the sound has become 'muddy' when to me it may sound right but I have gone 'bass deaf' from behind.
The strange thing is that the sound when listened from a long way away i.e outside room or from outside building. Its sounds perfect.
I think I may be going deaf from using subs to much but would prefer a second opinon on my dilemma,