Replacing lamp holders.

[Rowleys]

Hi,

I have a light that need the lamp holder replacing.

What is best to use to connect the 2 wires together as the heat in the lights melt everything i have tried..

Dave

[BeerFunk]

I'm not sure I've understood the question, but if you're referring to the pair of wires coming from the transformer, these connect directly to the lampholder - there should be a couple of screws there to secure them?

[DAVESOUNDS SERVICES]

MAKE SURE THE FITTING IS UNPLUGGED FROM THE MAINS!
i personally recommend taking it to a qualified electrician!
However if you want to repair it yourself
cut the 2 wire off 10 mm away from the old ceramic lampholder
bare the ends
bare the ends of the replacement
Crimp the old n new wires together using double ended red crimps and the correct (not a pair of old wire cutters ) crimping pliers
mount the new lampholder
fit the lamp
case up the fitting
test on an RCD incase youve cocked it up
GET THE LAMP FLASH TESTED THEN SAFETY PAT TESTED
Enjoy

PS IF YOU KILL YOURSELF DONT TRY SUEING ME
see the first and second line of this post
ALLWAYS USE QUALIFIED SERVICE PERSONELL

Cheers

[Happy Jack]

What is best to use to connect the 2 wires together as the heat in the lights melt everything i have tried..

Out of curiosity, what was it that you tried?



Crimp the old n new wires together using double ended red crimps

Also known as butt crimps; red specifies a CSA of between 0.5 - 1.5mm². It may be easier to pick up a choc block, tin the ends and terminate that way if you do not own the correct crimping tool, although a crimped joint will certainly be stronger.

[BeerFunk]

Oh I see, from Dave's post above, you need to connect the two wire pairs? That's simple enough, just use a choc block.

However, as also mentioned above, the fact that you are asking suggests you should maybe get someone in to do it.

[Excalibur]

Oh I see, from Dave's post above, you need to connect the two wire pairs? That's simple enough, just use a choc block.

However, as also mentioned above, the fact that you are asking suggests you should maybe get someone in to do it.

Dave's advice is not surprisingly spot on. However, as Callum says, we are talking of probably 24v or less, so as long as the heat question is dealt with, there should be few problems. I join the wires as Dave suggests, but use choc blocks as Callum says.

Dave's idea is correct, but I have found Callum's and mine to be perfectly safe and satisfactory.

You pays your money...................................

[NKR]

Oh I see, from Dave's post above, you need to connect the two wire pairs? That's simple enough, just use a choc block.

However, as also mentioned above, the fact that you are asking suggests you should maybe get someone in to do it.

You can get ceramic choc block to do the job, which is heat resistent. Thats what I use.

[Rowleys]

I dont think everyone is understanding what im asking for.

I can replace the holder no problem but there wire on the holder is short so i cart resolder them back on.

i just plastic connection box and it just melted cus of the heat. i need something that head proof.

Duck tape and electric tape burns as well from the heat being on for hours.


Hope this make more sense

[Excalibur]

I dont think everyone is understanding what im asking for.

I can replace the holder no problem but there wire on the holder is short so i cart resolder them back on.

i just plastic connection box and it just melted cus of the heat. i need something that head proof.

Duck tape and electric tape burns as well from the heat being on for hours.


Hope this make more sense
It makes perfect sense, but unfortunately, you're not using what we are all suggesting.

All the lampholders I've used have a four or five wire tail already attached. Why doesn't yours? :confused: :confused: :confused:

http://www.leds4you.co.uk/accessories/lamp-holder/gx-5-3-ceramic-lamp-holder.html

Doesn't yours look like this? :confused:

[Rowleys]

yeh mine are like that. its joining the wires can keeping the heat proof. So what i have joined them with don't melt or burn

[BeerFunk]

I don't understand why the wiring is close enough to the lamp to be affected by the heat - can't you just route the wiring away from the lamp? :confused:

Perhaps a photo might be of some help?

[Excalibur]

yeh mine are like that. its joining the wires can keeping the heat proof. So what i have joined them with don't melt or burn


I don't understand why the wiring is close enough to the lamp to be affected by the heat - can't you just route the wiring away from the lamp? :confused:

Perhaps a photo might be of some help?

I'm baffled too. :confused: :confused: What's the fixture?

[Rowleys]

its a martin destroyer. Have you felt how hot the lights get. it dont matter guys i will find something.

im looking at this

http://shop.ebay.co.uk/i.html?_nkw=CERAMIC+Connector+Block&_sacat=0&_odkw=Connector+Block&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313

[Excalibur]

its a martin destroyer. Have you felt how hot the lights get. it dont matter guys i will find something.

im looking at this

http://shop.ebay.co.uk/i.html?_nkw=CERAMIC+Connector+Block&_sacat=0&_odkw=Connector+Block&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313

Fair enough, but if you need 32amp connectors, they've started using different cables!!! :D :D

[Rowleys]

No i dont need 32amp connectors. I just dont want them to melt.

[NKR]

I dont think everyone is understanding what im asking for.

I can replace the holder no problem but there wire on the holder is short so i cart resolder them back on.

i just plastic connection box and it just melted cus of the heat. i need something that head proof.

Duck tape and electric tape burns as well from the heat being on for hours.


Hope this make more sense

Ceramic Block?


yeh mine are like that. its joining the wires can keeping the heat proof. So what i have joined them with don't melt or burn

Yes that was me suggesting ceramic block an age ago into this post. Yes ceramic block great for connecting wires in a heat sensitive area so that the connector doesn't melt. Thats why I use them to connect new lamp holders to the exisiting wires in some of my lights. Ideal for that environment.

[Rowleys]

NKR i did see that in your post and i forgot where i seen it when i was searching lol

im gonna order 2

[DJDC]

I had a datamoon what the bulb holder wires broke, as I had replacements I used a heat resistant choc blocks, never had a problem. From experience tthe wire core does not solder well at all, and melts through the casing. They do have to be connected with some form of terminal connection. With the datamoons I put the connection as far away from the bulb as possible. It's not possible to re wire the holder itself.
As everyone suggests if in doubt seek a qualified electrician.

[NKR]

NKR i did see that in your post and i forgot where i seen it when i was searching lol

im gonna order 2

Good man. You should find them on ebay. I got a pack of eight for not a lot of money a while back.

[Ajaysdisco]

Have a look at these, any good?
RS (http://uk.rs-online.com/web/search/searchBrowseAction.html?method=getProduct&R=4649851)
They are rated to 300oC

[Twinspin]

Im with Davesounds on this one using wire crimps. Ive refitted my lampholders myself. just a quick job if you know what your doing. Im definetely no electrician.

I carry a few spare crimps and a wire stripper in my toolbox as it could happen during a gig. Ive had it before.

I carry myself a spare lamp for every lighting effect on my rig also spare lampholders and crimps. Its very unlikely that every lampholder is going to need replacing at one gig but they are there anyway