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Tom Lovick
02-01-2011, 09:12 PM
Hi guys,

Here is my new website.

www.horizon-events.co.uk

Completly re-vamped.

Thanks,

Constructive criticism please.

And I can't afford to move off google sites at the moment, Maybe at the end of this year. ;)

discomobiledj
03-01-2011, 08:29 AM
The pictures on the homepage are not aligned, they are all over the place.

"If you cannot find a picture of your event please contact us and we will endeavour to get back to you."

This makes it sound like you will get back to them on the never ever. I'd remove the part about "endeavour to get back to you"

Services:

It looks like you've just stuck the availability checker in without any thought.

Equipment Hire:

2 pictures not working. Different fonts used.

"Other equipment is also available through us on a re-hire basis"

Like what?

Gallery:

Pictures are all over the place again. Different fonts used again.

Quote:

The form is too big for the window.

After going through the three pages it tells me to contact you for a price??? This is not an instant quoting system.

Make the form a tickbox enquiry form rather than a three/four page form and say that you'll contact them.

Downloads:

Don't like this one bit. This information should be sent in a booking/confirmation pack. Nice to see you are still charging 2010 prices though.

Why would someone download your services list (and why are using the old style design?)

If you want a page like this then put documents like your PLI, PAT and PRODUB.

As you hire items out what are your terms and conditions? No deposit?

I would take it off and maybe set something else up on another site. Just looks like you're trying to be a jack of all trades and master of none.

You only charge £50.00 more for New Year's Eve than you do for your "larger" disco? Seems very cheap.

Also there are no time restrictions so can you confirm that you are happy to do a disco from 11:00am - 2:00am for just £300?

The you tube video is pretty poor, it shows the lights flashing. Show people dancing!

You really need to think about the presentation of your site before making it live.

I don't understand why you didn't use Alex for your hosting. It cost nothing to host your site with him.

Chris1984
03-01-2011, 08:29 AM
its alot better that the last on as is the logo without the speaker in it!

funkymook
03-01-2011, 08:50 AM
Hi Tom - to be honest, apart from looking a bit different, it's pretty much the same content. Personally I'd like to see you concentrate on a much smaller range of services, birthday parties for instance, I'd have a concern about you doing a wedding going by your NYE set-up. As for the larger events you mention, I still think you are out of your depth with these outside of your school environment.
Start small - get some experience and build from there.

Ecstatic Events
03-01-2011, 10:36 AM
How many times have you asked for your website to be reviewed on this forum?

I don't think peoples opinions will change. To me it screams "free site" and isn't that pleasing to the eye.

Unless it's bringing you work in. Simply stick to a holding page with all your contact details and message saying "please forgive our appearance whilst we bring you a brand new site for 2011" and hire a professional to do your website (and your discos!!!) the last part was a joke BTW

Solitaire Events Ltd
03-01-2011, 10:42 AM
How many times have you asked for your website to be reviewed on this forum?



He is doing it as I suggested dropping the pretence that they do this and do that...

That hasn't happened though.

Tom, you aren't a ' small events production company' You don't even know how to set up a small disco with any degree of finish. Yet you still insist you are a production company.

Stop the bull:Censored::Censored::Censored::Censored:.

My patience is running very thin.

Gareth
03-01-2011, 10:54 AM
I'm sorry but on your gallery, you show some pretty decent kit under the 'concert' section. Now from the information that you give on your website, I would presume that you would be able to turn up at my local village hall and appropriatley plan, rig, control and strike all that equipment. Is this the case?

funkymook
03-01-2011, 11:00 AM
OK - here's another idea.

Keep the Horizon Event site as it is as you obviously want to keep advertising the events, concerts, theatre and dry hire.

But do another website just for birthdays/proms/school discos/youth clubs etc. make it really colourful, vibrant and fun to appeal to a younger market.

Nothing wrong in having two sites for different markets. I have! One for a niche music events and one for the more mainstream events.

As I said before, I really believe the younger party scene (under 18's) is where your business is - I bet you'd be the only DJ in the area specialising in this sector who was actually the same age as your clients - that's a great USP if you market it right.

I'm pretty much out of ideas now (for what they're worth) so probably won't post again on this subject. Good luck Tom.

Charlie Brown
03-01-2011, 11:16 AM
A) 'Horizon Events' sounds like a production company. You're not. You're a small mobile disco starting out. I would have a complete name change to something that describes what you really are. 'Horizon Events' is deceiving.

B) You may have changed the background but the content is either the same or very similar. It's incorrect and very misleading. This was a concern a lot of people have raised. You appear to have ignored them, again.

C) It looks crisp, clean and fresh, which is nice.

D) I would scrap the equipment hire page. The gear you own isn't suitable for large PA events. It's wasting peoples time and will do more trouble than good.

E) What's your SEO like?

F) I would focus on Children's/Teen parties. This is how I learnt a lot. I think it would be unfair for you to do a wedding, potentially ruining someone's big day.

I'm not being a bully or vindictive like some people on the forum are making out. I've talked to you a lot on FB answering your questions etc but you don't seem to listen or take any notice. (like me, which is cool ;) )

I'm sure you will be fine in the long run but stop trying to be someone you're not. People will respect you a lot more if you can admit you're wrong and prove you're willing to learn & listen.

'Specialising in Teen Birthdays, Children's Parties and School events throughout Reading'

:beer1:

Daryll
03-01-2011, 11:23 AM
Tom.
Please listen to the guys and gals on here , there are some very successful DJ`s on here , who will be only to pleased to help you out , if you listen !!.
Also there are some excellent web designers here , and I think that some offer web hosting as well.
If you cannot afford to have your site made by a professional ( and not everyone can) , then at least host it somewhere , not on googel
for a basic site , why not try http://www.wordpress.ogr or http://www.joomla.org/ , there are thousands of free templates to get you going.
1+ for funkymook idea about having more than one site , I am sure that anyone looking for a good school disco or 16/18 birthday will not want to see corporate events , stage shows etc. use the old acronym , KISS .
But , and I mean this , there are people on this site that will bend over backwards to help , and , if they see improvements , will continue to help , however if no heed is taken , you my find your self up a water way , with no means of propelling your self :D .
There are people on here who started with a darn sight worse gear than you have , however they have listened , and improved their whole outlook on this industry , I am one of those , with time , you could be too .

Daryll

Solitaire Events Ltd
03-01-2011, 11:27 AM
I have deleted a few posts that are not constructive - sorry, but this is not turning into another bun fight.

Charlie Brown
03-01-2011, 11:29 AM
I have deleted a few posts that are not constructive - sorry, but this is not turning into another bun fight.

I agree but you can understand why?

Solitaire Events Ltd
03-01-2011, 11:35 AM
I agree but you can understand why?

No, I cannot understand why.

People have already had their say on other threads, so there's no point in doing on this one.

If members think he isn't going to change, then don't bother posting.

Tom Lovick
03-01-2011, 11:42 AM
If you cannot afford to have your site made by a professional ( and not everyone can) , then at least host it somewhere , not on googel
for a basic site , why not try http://www.wordpress.ogr or http://www.joomla.org/ , there are thousands of free templates to get you going.

I did try to have a go with Joomla! but it looked too much like a blog for my liking. and I don't understand how i can start editing with wordpress?

Thanks charlie and everyone with Constructive critisism. Your comments have been taken on board and processed. ( that makes me sound like a robot doesn't it :p :D )

Charlie Brown
03-01-2011, 11:43 AM
No, I cannot understand why.

People have already had their say on other threads, so there's no point in doing on this one.

If members think he isn't going to change, then don't bother posting.

Where do you draw the line? People are frustrated with repeating themselves and Tom taking no notice but just starting another thread? :shrug:

Solitaire Events Ltd
03-01-2011, 11:45 AM
Where do you draw the line? People are frustrated with repeating themselves and Tom taking no notice but just starting another thread? :shrug:

Charlie. Leave it now please. It's not your issue.

Charlie Brown
03-01-2011, 11:46 AM
Charlie. Leave it now please. It's not your issue.

Understood. :)

Solitaire Events Ltd
03-01-2011, 11:56 AM
Tom. You have changed some text, but you still aren't being truthful.


We are a small events company based in Wokingham, Berkshire, specialising in mobile discos, private parties,

Fêtes, School concerts and theatre events and equipment dry hire.

How do you specialise in mobile discos when you haven't got any experience?

Have you ever provided the P.A. for a fete?

Do you really have any equipment to dry hire apart from what you DJ with?

You need to change it again. Put something along the lines of "We also have experience of working on school productions and events" rather than "we specialise in..."

Gareth
03-01-2011, 11:59 AM
I'm sorry but on your gallery, you show some pretty decent kit under the 'concert' section. Now from the information that you give on your website, I would presume that you would be able to turn up at my local village hall and appropriatley plan, rig, control and strike all that equipment. Is this the case?

Solitaire Events Ltd
03-01-2011, 12:04 PM
Next bit.


We are proud to provide what we feel is a service of exceptional value fulfilling your needs from a small children's party right up to large events including corporate parties, weddings and balls.

Do you know what is involved dealing with corporate clients? No, so get it off your site. I doubt very much whether you could cater for weddings or balls either as you haven't got either the experience or gear to do it.


Thanks to our hire operations, our equipment is kept up to date and well maintained meaning your event always goes to plan.

Your equipment is up to date? You have a pair of Prosound speakers as fas as I'm aware and a couple of lighting effects that aren't up to date and Prosound are Maplin specials and not pro hire stock. Fine for a starter DJ but not for pro hire stock.


All our DJs are experienced with the equipment they use and carry spares.

DJs? Plural? Experienced with the equipment they use? Like not having a simple frontage, or hanging effects upside down or knowing where to put par cans?

You have to take this on board Tom and stop the pretence. Market yourself as a new DJ and stop making out that you have a massive company that does hire and corporate balls. You don't.

Shakermaker Promotions
03-01-2011, 12:17 PM
Darren - How is your post any different from the one I posted and you deleted? It was along the same lines and there was nothing wrong with it.

Tom Lovick
03-01-2011, 12:21 PM
Have you ever provided the P.A. for a fete?
Yep. Abbeville Fete 2010

Do you really have any equipment to dry hire apart from what you DJ with?
We have extra speakers and mixers than what we DJ with, also lighting


Your equipment is up to date? You have a pair of Prosound speakers as fas as I'm aware and a couple of lighting effects that aren't up to date and Prosound are Maplin specials and not pro hire stock. Fine for a starter DJ but not for pro hire stock.
These speakers are our small disco stock we have speakers such as, Behringer B215A, Wharfedale EVP-15x? (I think thats that model.)

DJs? Plural? Experienced with the equipment they use? Like not having a simple frontage, or hanging effects upside down or knowing where to put par cans?

as I have already said, We hung them upside down to create a better coverage of light. Everyone at the NYE event enjoyed themselves, isn't that all that matters?? :)

ppentertainments
03-01-2011, 12:38 PM
A few month ago I gave Tom the contact details of a good, but cheap, web designer who could get him started with a cms site. The designer is also good for advice and SEO and as I say is VERY cheap.

Not so much as a reply off Tom, so I have to ask if he really is serious about all this.

By having a cms site, Tom could impliment changes as they are suggested on here, with ease, hopefully then giving him a good starting point at least.

Charlie Brown
03-01-2011, 12:52 PM
Use the money from NYE Tom to put something in motion?

Who keeps the money? You or your Dad?

Tom Lovick
03-01-2011, 12:56 PM
Use the money from NYE Tom to put something in motion?

Who keeps the money? You or your Dad?

I keep the money. But i have split it half way with Matthew who helped me. and i am already buying a Starcloth with the NYE money.

i have some events lined up in the next few months so will use this money for advertising.

Jiggles
03-01-2011, 01:06 PM
Tom, you have email from me saying what I can do! Sorry to say but it still amateurish and rather thrown together!

Charlie Brown
03-01-2011, 01:07 PM
I keep the money. But i have split it half way with Matthew who helped me. and i am already buying a Starcloth with the NYE money.

i have some events lined up in the next few months so will use this money for advertising.

Great business you got there!

You pay someone to 'help you' £125? You have to put your wage in to buy a starcloth? Surely if you are 'business partners' the cost will be split equally?

I would do this alone Tom. It seems to be very one sided.

Tom Lovick
03-01-2011, 01:22 PM
Great business you got there!

You pay someone to 'help you' £125? You have to put your wage in to buy a starcloth? Surely if you are 'business partners' the cost will be split equally?

I would do this alone Tom. It seems to be very one sided.

Nah, Sorry I paid him £100

funkymook
03-01-2011, 01:28 PM
Tom, just an observation, but isn't putting

'We also have a good working relationship with 'Henley Theatre Services Limited'. Please feel free to look through their hire list Here, and contact us about any equipment required.'

the kiss of death for your own hire? Looking at their site via the link on yours, I see no incentive/reason for anybody to go back to you to make enquiries when their site has everything required. :confused:

Ecstatic Events
03-01-2011, 01:31 PM
Tom, just an observation, but isn't putting

'We also have a good working relationship with 'Henley Theatre Services Limited'. Please feel free to look through their hire list Here, and contact us about any equipment required.'

the kiss of death for your own hire? Looking at their site via the link on yours, I see no incentive/reason for anybody to go back to you to make enquiries when their site has everything required. :confused:

I could give you a link to my site too if you like Tom :)

Booche
03-01-2011, 01:36 PM
Equipment hire: Then why not hire some big speakers or lighting effects for your event. Perfect for small family parties.

Abit of confusion there Tom, big speakers perfect for small parties

Click Here To Request For Information Form From Horizon Events

That doesn't make sense either Tom

Gareth
03-01-2011, 01:43 PM
Are you going to answer my question?

Tom Lovick
03-01-2011, 01:49 PM
I'm sorry but on your gallery, you show some pretty decent kit under the 'concert' section. Now from the information that you give on your website, I would presume that you would be able to turn up at my local village hall and appropriatley plan, rig, control and strike all that equipment. Is this the case?

Well you wouldn't really need that kit for a village hall. But if you did then with plenty of time and a proper budget, Yes.

I actually find school/amateur concerts and theatre events better and easier than Mobile Discos.

funkymook
03-01-2011, 01:55 PM
I keep the money. But i have split it half way with Matthew who helped me. and i am already buying a Starcloth with the NYE money.

i have some events lined up in the next few months so will use this money for advertising.

Tom, don't worry about a starcloth at the moment (not everyone uses them and it's not compulsory). Some good quality, heavy black cloth from your local haberdashery is sufficient, and will cost you about £8-£10, leaving you some funds for web design etc.

Gareth
03-01-2011, 01:59 PM
I have a large village hall which I want a production in. It has a large stage along the lines of the one in this picture:

Click to view (http://www.horizon-events.co.uk/_/rsrc/1276949705964/gallery/DSCF5646.JPG)

You are telling me that you have the required knowledge and qualifications to pull it off?

Tom Lovick
03-01-2011, 02:02 PM
You are telling me that you have the required knowledge and qualifications to pull it off?

well yes i do know enough to do this.

For this kind of event, I would have to use members of the school 'tech crew', to enable the rig to be finished in time.

ppentertainments
03-01-2011, 02:12 PM
For this kind of event, I would have to use members of the school 'tech crew', to enable the rig to be finished in time.
That just does not sound right at all.

'Yes, certainly I can provide what you require, I just have to check if I can get enough school friends to help and make sure we can find the equipment from somewhere' :confused: :confused:

Tom - Face facts, like most of us on here, you can provide a BASIC disco. Nothing more, nothing less. The rest will come, don't run before you can walk.

As Charlie has said, get a few younger disco's under your belt for experience and a bit of money. How on earth could you manage the cashflow for a production if you cannot even afford a website and are stretching your capital to purchase a starcloth (which btw I agree is not neccesary).

Gareth
03-01-2011, 02:17 PM
well yes i do know enough to do this.

For this kind of event, I would have to use members of the school 'tech crew', to enable the rig to be finished in time.

I'm sorry (and I don't have anything but a hunch to back this up) but I don't believe you. Gareth out.

Tom Lovick
03-01-2011, 02:20 PM
I'm sorry (and I don't have anything but a hunch to back this up) but I don't believe you. Gareth out.

Well how did i manage to do it to get these photos?

discomobiledj
03-01-2011, 02:43 PM
Tom,

This is a wordpress site and it was up in 30 minutes.

http://www.discomobiledj.co.uk/

Yes, it's basic, but does the job.

Gareth
03-01-2011, 02:48 PM
Well how did i manage to do it to get these photos?

I could take a picture at Glastonbury and it doesn't mean I had anything to do with the setup!

ppentertainments
03-01-2011, 02:49 PM
Well how did i manage to do it to get these photos?
So, so, tempting :zip:

You have to admit though Tom, the equipment in those photos does differ a lot to the ones you have shown from NYE.

Shaun
03-01-2011, 02:49 PM
Just a reminder....keep it contructive please, guys.

Charlie Brown
03-01-2011, 02:50 PM
Well how did i manage to do it to get these photos?

Your school had a production. You were asked to help out backstage. You're using the schools lights and pa system. You don't own any of it. You told me on FB! You must think everyone on here is stupid.

STOP LYING YOU SILLY BOY. :Censored:

soundtracker
03-01-2011, 02:53 PM
If this nonsense doesn't stop, I will simply just close the thread, its not doing anyone any good, just random slagging off.

funkymook
03-01-2011, 03:07 PM
If this nonsense doesn't stop, I will simply just close the thread, its not doing anyone any good, just random slagging off.

I agree, it's got a bit snipey and personal again (such an easy target folks, there's really no need!).

Possibly just delete the non-constructive comments as Darren did earlier? It would be a shame to close it if there's still a few more positives to come from some of us. :)

Shaun
03-01-2011, 03:15 PM
Enough is enough.

Tom, you've been given enough advice in this thread to be going on with.

Solitaire Events Ltd
03-01-2011, 04:47 PM
Darren - How is your post any different from the one I posted and you deleted? It was along the same lines and there was nothing wrong with it.

Not in my opinion and I am getting fed up with you questioning my moderating decisions.

The big difference is that I am trying to help the boy, all your posts did was to slate him.