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Danno13

12-01-2011, 09:31 PM

I'm beginning to worry.

Everyone is getting a decent website.

Soon clients won't be able to differentiate a decent DJ from a crubby one. (I'm not suggesting your crubby NKR )

I know a few guys around Nottingham who are bloody awful but have a decent site.

I think it's time to think outside the box.

I don't think it's quite that simple - to get the high end work you have to be consistent in all parts of your marketing and communication.

If someone enquires through a posh website and gets a reply from some illiterate idiot or a stupidly cheap price, then any confidence built up by the site will be destroyed straight away.

Charlie Brown

12-01-2011, 09:33 PM

I don't think it's quite that simple - to get the high end work you have to be consistent in all parts of your marketing and communication.

If people enquire through a posh website and get a reply from some illerate idiot, or a stupidly cheap price then any confidence built up by the site will be destroyed straight away.

Okay,

I'm also quite worried about the number of 'professional' DJs. There seem to be more and more with PLI/PAT/Pre event meets etc.

A lot of them are rubbish but on paper do everything I/you/people on the forum do.

Danno13

12-01-2011, 09:36 PM

If they're rubbish they won't last long as they won't get repeat work. There's enough work out there anyway...

Charlie Brown

12-01-2011, 09:39 PM

If they're rubbish they won't last long as they won't get repeat work. There's enough work out there anyway...

I hope so.

This is why I started the 'how much do you earn thread' that got dismissed.

NKR

12-01-2011, 09:40 PM

Okay,

I'm also quite worried about the number of 'professional' DJs. There seem to be more and more with PLI/PAT/Pre event meets etc.

A lot of them are rubbish but on paper do everything I/you/people on the forum do.

That is the beauty of the web. Everyone eventually looks the same regardless of service level. You gotta love the internet.

I have a plan to improve the positioning by getting my corporate events posted on the web site (once fully confirmed) and back links to their web sites (The casino and football club), whilst getting them to advertise the events on their web sites (getting people in is the idea behind holding them) and use our name on their web site. We do have a little following so where we do open events or ticket jobs, people do come. Which is where we can demonstrate the benefit of web linking to the corporate clients. It works for both parties as our site is now good enough to get people interested in coming to those events.

That adds proper credence to my claims of professional service, which Mr Rubbish can not. Its working out how to demonstrate what you are beyond the fancy web site and forming those tie ins.

yourdj

13-01-2011, 07:37 AM

I do not know why more people do not seek professional help and realize the likes of free hosting and vista print business cards just look amateur.

DiscosMobile

13-01-2011, 08:30 AM

Great stuff Neil. Yeah I have to agree with everyone websites are the way forward.. I built my site myself and I am not trained in HTML. Your sites look lovely, mine looks better than some others (vista print etc).. but that does not distract from the fact I have had 4 Telephone calls and 6 e-mails in the last 3 days :)

Given we know 1 has been £60, 1 £100 and 2 booked @ better than my usual agency money.

but from my website this is the most amount of business I have got in such a short period of time.. It would nice to see at the end of the year what the stats are from my own back.. Prices going up too..

Rick

Shakermaker Promotions

13-01-2011, 08:36 AM

I do not know why more people do not seek professional help and realize the likes of free hosting and vista print business cards just look amateur.

I don't understand that last comment about a vista print business card looking amateur Toby. A business card is a business card isn't it?
I have always designed my own cards through vista print. The quality is good and all the information I need and the customers need is on there.

soundtracker

13-01-2011, 09:15 AM

I do not know why more people do not seek professional help and realize the likes of free hosting and vista print business cards just look amateur.

Professional is, as professional does! Like not slagging off people in direct competition!

Charlie Brown

13-01-2011, 09:37 AM

Trust me.

Get Toby to design you 500 cards for £40 and you will notice the difference. ;)

Excalibur

13-01-2011, 09:47 AM

DeckstarDeluxe

13-01-2011, 09:51 AM

I agree.

Interesting proposition. But will the extra expenditure pay for itself? If we knew that..................................... :confused: :D :D

*Cough cough* "Everything matters" :)

Excalibur

13-01-2011, 09:58 AM

*Cough cough* "Everything matters" :)

Yeah. but does it matter to the tune of £30? :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: Why that's half a disco to me. :( :(

Shakermaker Promotions

13-01-2011, 10:04 AM

Sorry but I don't see what difference there is. If Toby is making money out of it then fair play and good luck to him.
I have never had anyone say "Ooh, that business card of yours isn't great".

Each to their own though.

"Everything Matters"
"Practice and Enjoy"

Anymore of these nuggets floating about?

soundtracker

13-01-2011, 10:19 AM

When I passed my vista print postcards around at Derekpen's DJ Workshop, the unanimous response was "Wow", and that was without mentioning they only cost me £7.00 for 100.

Charlie Brown

13-01-2011, 10:39 AM

Trust me guys. ;)

You haven't seen Toby's so you can't compare!

soundtracker

13-01-2011, 10:46 AM

Trust me guys. ;)

You haven't seen Toby's so you can't compare!

and vice versa you plank!

Charlie Brown

13-01-2011, 10:50 AM

and vice versa you plank!

Don't be so rude. :mad:

I used Vista print for 2 years. Business cards, websites, pens, letter heads, calenders.

Toby's design and print quality is far more superior.

soundtracker

13-01-2011, 10:52 AM

Don't be so rude. :mad:

I used Vista print for 2 years. Business cards, websites, pens, letter heads, calenders.

Toby's design and print quality is far more superior.

Have you seen my postcards? Answer: No -therefore your statement is ridiculous.

Charlie Brown

13-01-2011, 10:57 AM

Have you seen my postcards? Answer: No -therefore your statement is ridiculous.

I don't understand what your problem is but you have a serious grudge against me.

I have used and seen a lot of Vista Prints products. Even their 'highest quality' paper/card doesn't come anywhere near Toby's design.

I'm not suggesting your postcards aren't very good but in general, Bogfrog beats Vista Print!

Dj Diddy Davies

13-01-2011, 11:05 AM

Charlie, could you scan one of your cards so we can see it?

Steve.

soundtracker

13-01-2011, 11:07 AM

Charlie grow up. its not the school playground! I don't do grudges, and I certainly don't have a problem with you - how could I, I don't know you, and I have never met you. In fact I seem to remember several times going out of my way to back you up when the big boys were shouting at you!
If you, or anyone else for that matter, posts something that I don't agree with, I will tell you, those who know me in real life, will tell you that I don't do sitting on the fence.
You can comment all you like in general terms, but I'm telling you what serious people had to say about my postcards - if they thought they were poor, cheap, crap or whatever derogatory remark you may wish to make against them, then they would have done so - but their reaction was a genuine "wow" and they didn't believe that they could be from vistaprint.
I have sent for Toby's sample pack, and will report back in due course - if I am wrong. I will hold my hands up!

Charlie Brown

13-01-2011, 11:16 AM

Charlie, could you scan one of your cards so we can see it?

Steve.

I have sent for Toby's sample pack, and will report back in due course - if I am wrong. I will hold my hands up!

If both of you PM me your address...I'll send a flyer and business card out today first class. :beer1:

Shakermaker Promotions

13-01-2011, 11:25 AM

Honestly, this forum gets better every day!
Charlie, as I said yesterday (which you seemed to take offence to), you have a lot to learn. I'd say the most important lesson you need to learn is to go over your posts before you press the submit button.
If you think Toby's stuff is great then that's cool, good luck to you. I happen to think that Vista Print is great. Each to their own remember!

Charlie Brown

13-01-2011, 11:32 AM

D'oh! Gary, again you have missed my point.

Like yourself, I used to love Vista Print, until I used Toby's services.

I used to love my Acme firebirds until I discovered the EFX's.

I used to think my deckstand was fine until I bought the DSBP.

I'm constantly trying to find new ways and services to improve my business.

First impression counts...Toby's business cards aren't a template and make me look 'proper', init bro. ;)

Shakermaker Promotions

13-01-2011, 11:39 AM

What's with the 'init bro'?
As I said Charlie, good luck to you! I haven't missed any of your points at all. I know exactly what you are talking about.
I can totally understand wanting to improve, I do the same but I am going round in circles now because I just don't see what difference the quality of a business card can make.

Now, as for improving the business. Yes, updating the way your equipment is presented and the equipment you use is a good thing - Agreed.

Once this week is out of the way, I will be doing something to improve my business a lot more and that's to get off here and stop posting about bloody business cards :D and go out there and get new work, residencies etc...
I am more than happy with the kit I have and the new purchases I have made but I'd rather be out there getting work than posting all day (which I don't do that much to be honest).

Shaun

13-01-2011, 11:54 AM

I just don't see what difference the quality of a business card can make.

To be honest I used to think that until I opted to have some 'luxury' business cards printed. I thought as long as the design was right the quality of the cards was secondary. Compared to a normal business card they just have a smooth feel of quality. Now that may not jump out at every client, but from a subtle point of view they just ooze quality. I made the change a few years back after Marc J showed me his ones. Sure they cost more than standard cards but I think it's worth the investment as it all adds to the overall picture I work to create for my business.

As a wise old Reading man once said...."Everything Matters".

Charlie Brown

13-01-2011, 11:54 AM

A decent business card will last longer, stand out in someone's wallet and look good at wedding fayres.

It's up to you who/what you use :)

Shaun

13-01-2011, 12:06 PM

Off topic posts removed.

:ontopic: :thanks:

yourdj

13-01-2011, 01:55 PM

I don't understand that last comment about a vista print business card looking amateur Toby. A business card is a business card isn't it?
I have always designed my own cards through vista print. The quality is good and all the information I need and the customers need is on there.

Professional is, as professional does! Like not slagging off people in direct competition!

I agree.

Interesting proposition. But will the extra expenditure pay for itself? If we knew that..................................... :confused: :D :D

When I passed my vista print postcards around at Derekpen's DJ Workshop, the unanimous response was "Wow", and that was without mentioning they only cost me £7.00 for 100.

The vista print ones I meant the 200 gsm off sized bond thin paper with vista print on the back.
These are the only ones I have seen from them. Im sure they do good quality ones too just never seen them. :)

By better quality I meant the one Derek has with matt lamination. In fact his one is identical to the ones I have had printed.
You can go even further by using spot UV (shiny) die cutting or embossing to really create an effect.

I believe it makes a MASSIVE difference to peoples perceptions if firstly your card is well designed and secondly looks and feels good.
Goes the other way too you can get the best cards and flyers but if the design is not good then it will show. :)

Same as a website which was my original comment.

I am running the risk of advertising which was not the intention so if anyone wishes to get some printing please look here :)
http://www.forum.mobilediscodirectory.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=134

To be honest I used to think that until I opted to have some 'luxury' business cards printed. I thought as long as the design was right the quality of the cards was secondary. Compared to a normal business card they just have a smooth feel of quality. Now that may not jump out at every client, but from a subtle point of view they just ooze quality. I made the change a few years back after Marc J showed me his ones. Sure they cost more than standard cards but I think it's worth the investment as it all adds to the overall picture I work to create for my business.

As a wise old Reading man once said...."Everything Matters".

:agree:

DiscosMobile

13-01-2011, 05:19 PM

Well done Neil I hope it all goes well with the website this year..

and were only 8 miles down the road from each other, and we go after the same business probably even some of the same keywords..

Rick

Dj Diddy Davies

13-01-2011, 05:49 PM

If both of you PM me your address...I'll send a flyer and business card out today first class. :beer1:

Charlie, i meant if you could scan your business cards onto the forum, then we could all see what you're talking about (unless of course you're talking about card quality?).

Steve.

yourdj

13-01-2011, 06:23 PM

Charlie, i meant if you could scan your business cards onto the forum, then we could all see what you're talking about (unless of course you're talking about card quality?).

Steve.

I think he is on about the quality and feel more than the design. :)
I have never ordered from Vista but I bet its not far off Charlies cards tbh. (400 gsm matt lam).

I would say with the likes of martin, alex and the likes - hiring a professional gets allot more
attention to detail and you should end up with a more refined result. Look at charlie site for example.

I would hate to think what my site would cost? I must have 50 pages if not 70 :D

NKR

13-01-2011, 07:37 PM

Considering how few cards I end up giving out the premium Vista Print ones are suffice.

I have very high quality UV spot varnished business cards for the day job. Vista's are not that far behind them and a damn sight cheaper.

How many people keep a DJ's card in there wallet - come on!!!

Vista's premium cards are plenty good enough as they are a source of information and will not be handled that often.

Larry B Entertainment

13-01-2011, 08:12 PM

How many people keep a DJ's card in there wallet - come on!!!

Most people will just take one look at it and put it to one side.
Cant understand people getting so worked up on here over a few business cards.
I use vista cards aswell and they work for me.

NKR

13-01-2011, 08:21 PM

Most people will just take one look at it and put it to one side.
Cant understand people getting so worked up on here over a few business cards.
I use vista cards aswell and they work for me.

Agreed. The cheaper ones are not so clever, but the premium ones ordered double sided and designed using a bit of advanced editing are good.

I order loads off them at buttons money. I basically take advantage of the loss leader offers they put out and stay disciplined in not ordering more. Have allsorts of useful stuff on my desk all branded and cost me delivery.

cjd

14-01-2011, 06:08 PM

Slightly confused of how off topic this has gone, and if the vistaprint argument is over design or quality?

200gsm glossy business cards are 200gsm glossy business cards, wherever they are from. Such as the quality of vistaprint is also great, and they must be to continue a multi-million dollar business.

If the design is in question, then a (semi) professional design will always be better and more unique than standard cards! But depending on your market, who cares that much?

Onto the original topic, websites are the way forward. As said before I agree that the quality of communication will be the decision of whether the person believes that the image of the website matches the image of the DJ and quality of service that will be provided.

yourdj

14-01-2011, 07:27 PM

200gsm glossy business cards are 200gsm glossy business cards, wherever they are from.

Not really as different printers can use different paper and process. 200 gsm is pretty thin. the std these days is 300-350. however the paper weight is only the weight so some higher weighted papers can seem thinner as they are denser and better quality. Generally a decent modern litho press and good quality silk paper should look the same. I use Xerox colortech which is very good.

Never liked and gloss finish unless its a laminate. I would not buy a card that is not matt laminated these days especially for DJing as they get left on wet bars and wash basins. They are also about 400 gsm which is much cleaner and smarter. You can also get spot colours (such as the shiny UV) for very little extra. :)

Each to thier own but I think any serious operator should not be using the free cheapy cards that are on offer or a free hosting for that matter as it does not look professional.

Shakermaker Promotions

14-01-2011, 08:19 PM

I can understand not using free hosting and I will come clean and say that when I first went self employed and got myself a website, I used one of those 'Mr Site' things. You know, 'Website in a box'.

However, I totally disagree (as I have said countless times already) that the Vista Print stuff is fine. I am sure there are lots of people on here that use them that haven't commented. Not sure about the 'Free Cheapy Cards' comment making you look unprofessional. Your average bloke on the street is going to comment on a business card.

"Blimey, this business card is rubbish. I'm not booking that company, they must be rubbish too".

How silly is that!!?

At the end of the day, a business card is the equivalent of a piece of paper that you have written your number on. It just has more information and looks better. I think that some of the designs Vista Print has are pretty dire but as some others have done, I have made my own designs and then got them to print them. I have an offer of theirs from ages ago that is in my 'favourites' and so I always get very cheap deals when I re-order.

I don't blame you fighting your corner Toby because obviously you want the business and fair play to you.

Jonathan Ford

15-01-2011, 08:55 PM

From my point of view, the cheapo business cards will look ok...until they're held alongside a premium product.

Charlie Brown

15-01-2011, 11:48 PM

"Blimey, this business card is rubbish. I'm not booking that company, they must be rubbish too".

How silly is that!!?

You carry on buying Vista Print products and I'll stick to Bogfrog. ;)

STEVE HANLEY

16-01-2011, 12:40 AM

Have to say I can't fault the business cards Shaun ( Elite DJ ) did for me. They are superb quality. I will certainly continue to use Shaun for all my stuff like that

Excalibur

16-01-2011, 08:22 PM

ppentertainments

16-01-2011, 08:32 PM

Have to say I can't fault the business cards Shaun ( Elite DJ ) did for me. They are superb quality. I will certainly continue to use Shaun for all my stuff like that
Just check the telephone number next time ;) :p :D

Excalibur

16-01-2011, 08:43 PM

Just check the telephone number next time ;) :p :D

Has he altered the one on his website yet? Last time I rang him, I got "Number not in use". :eek: :eek: :D :D :D :D

ppentertainments

16-01-2011, 08:44 PM

Has he altered the one on his website yet? Last time I rang him, I got "Number not in use". :eek: :eek: :D :D :D :D
Good excuse - I will use that next time I am supposed to ring :D :D :D

CRAZY K

16-01-2011, 09:20 PM

I'm with Gary and Pete on this one, I feel my Vista cards are more than fit for purpose. ( You should have seen what I was making myself!! :eek: :eek: :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o )However, since I have not seen the offerings from Shaun, and Toby, I must concede that they may quite easily be of far superior quality. I repeat though, will the extra cost result in more work? I don't know. :confused: Can I take that risk? I think not. The jury is indeed put on this one, I suspect it wll have legs.

We have Vista business cards and they are good enough to get people on the website which is where the real start of the sales process begins ( in my opinion)

I think Peter is right, if available spend your development money on your Web site.

Did your old ones get printed with a John Bull printing kit Peter?

:sofa:

yourdj

16-01-2011, 09:27 PM

However, since I have not seen the offerings from Shaun, and Toby, I must concede that they may quite easily be of far superior quality. I repeat though, will the extra cost result in more work? I

I think Peter is right, if available spend your development money on your Web site.

How much cost are we talking about? It cant be too much :confused: as
most professional printing/design companies are very competitive these days.

Surely for an extra £15 a side design and £10-20 for print its worth it

That's a few pints down the pub on a night you are not booked as the
prospective client did not like the look/feel of your business stationery :beer1: :D

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Charlie Brown

16-01-2011, 09:31 PM

I agree wholeheartedly Toby.

Until you have experienced the service of a bespoke graphics company...you can't comment/compare to good old Vista.

Excalibur

16-01-2011, 09:37 PM

Surely for an extra £15 a side design and £10-20 for print its worth it
-
You tell me. :confused: Is it? :confused:
And by the way, the £30 cost difference is three nights out round here. ;) :D :D

yourdj

16-01-2011, 09:40 PM

You tell me. :confused: Is it? :confused:
And by the way, the £30 cost difference is three nights out round here. ;) :D :D

If your comparing it too the 200 gsm off sized digitally printed plain bond cards i have seen then yes it is. :p
A matt lam 300 gsm litho printed silk card is much nicer. You only pay for the design once too so reprints only cost the printing cost.

I need to move up near you. i am actually not drinking for 2 months.
it been a week and the longest I have been sober in five years :D

NKR

17-01-2011, 04:47 PM

I agree wholeheartedly Toby.

Until you have experienced the service of a bespoke graphics company...you can't comment/compare to good old Vista.

I have daily and I'm happy enough to use the Vista cards for the DJ business as they cost - let me see, ah yes that's right £6.55 delivered for 250 premium cards (double sided with plenty of text on, etc) if you wait for the loss leader adverts.

I give very few out so that will last us couple of years or until we change something then we just skip them and reprint new ones at very little money (so you can afford to change stuff regularly if you need to).

Flexibility to change quickly at little cost.

yourdj

17-01-2011, 05:42 PM

yes that's right £6.55 delivered for 250 premium cards

Thats not bad considering if its double sided. I have one in front of me now but its the one with vista print on the back which is pretty rubbish. :)

Its just like DJ gear. The client may not notice the difference between a Tapco and a Mackie but many opt for the more expensive/better quality option.

soundtracker

17-01-2011, 06:24 PM

I've now got CB's business card and flyer, there is no doubt that the card feels better, having said that I'm not comparing apples with apples, as Vista also do a larger gauge. The thing that I don't like Chaz is the yellow text on green background - very difficult to read, and having asked for a few opinions, the feedback I've got so far, is that mine looks like a Wedding Disco, and yours looks like its aimed at a much younger audience - which it may well be!
So to summarise, the Bogfrog product is good, but imho not worth the extra investment compared with my current Vista offering.

Charlie Brown

17-01-2011, 07:00 PM

Interesting Pete.

It was supposed to be aimed at the wedding market. :o

The green isn't great, I must admit. :(

Dynamic Entertainment

17-01-2011, 07:56 PM

Interesting Pete.

It was supposed to be aimed at the wedding market. :o

The green isn't great, I must admit. :(

From the advertisers section...

Don't like the green... not much contrast from the green background and the text... Hard to read IMO!

...

Toby said exactly the same thing.....

Maybe try listening to the designer you pay for eh Charlie ;)

Charlie Brown

17-01-2011, 07:59 PM

Maybe try listening to the designer you pay for eh Charlie ;)

Note - I was told once it was printed. :lol:

I let him do his thing.

Dynamic Entertainment

17-01-2011, 08:03 PM

Note - I was told once it was printed. :lol:

I let him do his thing.

In that case...shoot him :sofa: :p :D

Corabar Entertainment

17-01-2011, 08:03 PM

Didn't you get a proof? :confused:

Charlie Brown

17-01-2011, 08:56 PM

Didn't you get a proof? :confused:

PDF.

I'm not blaming Toby but it looks very different in actual print.

NKR

17-01-2011, 08:58 PM

PDF.

I'm not blaming Toby but it looks very different in actual print.

My vistaprint ones look exactly as they did on the screen :shrug:

Shaun

17-01-2011, 09:55 PM

My vistaprint ones look exactly as they did on the screen :shrug:

In fairness it can be hit or a miss. You can never tell exactly how a design will look in final print. Designs seen on a PC monitor should only be used as a guide. No designer can give a rock solid guarantee that what you see on your screen will be identical in shades and tone once the final print is done. There are so many variables that can come into play.

Booche

18-01-2011, 11:47 AM

Well Thankyou to Charlie for sending me out his flyer and business card and i must admit they are very good quality :)

However lol a few things i think need to be altered/removed

1. The Djmark (as its now out of date)
2. The Djmark validated logos (they seem to stick out for the wrong reasons :(
3. For some reason the Logo (Charlie Brown's Entertainment) seems really low res.
4. The handwriting font is quite hard to read.
5. On the business card i'd lose the logo in the background
6. Lose the Validators on the business card
7. The UKBride logo seems low res aswell

Sorry if this seems a little extreme but that is what i feel could make them better and also the misses aggrees with me :eek: (First time in years)

yourdj

18-01-2011, 03:40 PM

You can never tell exactly how a design will look in final print. Designs seen on a PC monitor should only be used as a guide.

Even the proofs I print on my £7000 Xerox digital machine will not be the same as our litho work (£3 mill print press)

Well Thankyou to Charlie for sending me out his flyer and business card and i must admit they are very good quality :)

However lol a few things i think need to be altered/removed

1. The Djmark (as its now out of date)
2. The Djmark validated logos (they seem to stick out for the wrong reasons :(
3. For some reason the Logo (Charlie Brown's Entertainment) seems really low res.
4. The handwriting font is quite hard to read.
5. On the business card i'd lose the logo in the background
6. Lose the Validators on the business card
7. The UKBride logo seems low res aswell

Sorry if this seems a little extreme but that is what i feel could make them better and also the misses aggrees with me :eek: (First time in years)

Each to their own. Design is always subjective. Good points however.
Regarding the green on yellow myself and charlie agree on that and i have offered him free design next time. :)

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_044PTfUkGaA/TQ4qFnkqZfI/AAAAAAAAC4Y/qCOfqP6Chjk/s320/business-card-front.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_044PTfUkGaA/TQ4qFp4m3II/AAAAAAAAC4Q/-4p0-YYKXuU/s320/business-card-back.jpgg

See my Advertisers Section (http://www.forum.mobilediscodirectory.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=134) for more info.

Shaun

19-01-2011, 12:47 PM

Have to say I can't fault the business cards Shaun ( Elite DJ ) did for me. They are superb quality. I will certainly continue to use Shaun for all my stuff like that

Thanks for that Steve.

I just wanted to add that having received a sample pack from Toby I'll now be using BogFrog for my clients printing requirements from now on. Whilst the quality of my last printing supplier was really good, Toby's definitely have a slightly better feel of quality to them.

yourdj

19-01-2011, 06:27 PM

Thanks for that Steve.

I just wanted to add that having received a sample pack from Toby I'll now be using BogFrog for my clients printing requirements from now on. Whilst the quality of my last printing supplier was really good, Toby's definitely have a slightly better feel of quality to them.

Thanks :beer1: :beer1: :beer1: :beer1: :beer1: :beer1:

They are for you as I am not drinking for another month :(

Paul The Party Dj

19-01-2011, 07:26 PM

I saw Toby today - he had one cup of tea and two coffee's!
He is of the booze.

Picked up my BogFrog sample pack and getting my thoughts together for an order.

yourdj

19-01-2011, 07:48 PM

I saw Toby today - he had one cup of tea and two coffee's!
He is of the booze.

Picked up my BogFrog sample pack and getting my thoughts together for an order.

http://www.emofaces.com/en/emoticons/c/cup-of-tea-emoticon.gif

Ukbride Owner

21-03-2011, 03:26 PM

Hi Charlie,

Hi quality UKbride logo available here - http://www.ukbride.co.uk/images/frontend/UKbrideLogo.jpg

and Rosette here - http://www.ukbride.co.uk/images/frontend/HIRES_UKBRIDE_APPROVED_SUPPLIER.jpg

Kind Regards

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21-03-2011, 07:52 PM

In my day job i work for a quality litho printers,I see proofs before going to press most days.Yes it is very difficult to get a 100% consistent colour match,especially where a solid colour is involved.

I do see various types of business cards,but most of our ones if they are just a small quantity go for digital print which is a different process alltogether.Yes the customers who are willing to spend that bit extra for better quality finish,do have far better business cards.

I have been fortunate to see the difference between a single sided 1 colour business card compared to one that is 5 colour,spot uv varnished logo embossed,foil blocked,mat\gloss\silk laminated.