My new 2011 Flyer

[Tom Lovick]

Hi guys-

Please find my flyer for this year attached.

Thanks,

Tom

[Chris1984]

off topic but in your hire section on your website you have a grand ma - do you hire them then?

[Charlie Brown]

It could be worded a bit better perhaps? :shrug:

What market are you aiming at?

Birthdays etc aren't interested in theatre productions etc.

[Jiggles]

One Word: Bland

Nothing says wow about them tbh.

[BeerFunk]

You need to re-write this, as it is grammatically wrong :


Horizon Events are a small events company based in Wokingham, Berkshire, Providing mobile discos, Private parties, fetes, school/amateur theatre and concerts and Equipment dry hire.

"Horizon Events is a small events company based in Wokingham, Berkshire. We provide mobile discos, private parties, fêtes, school/amateur theatre and concerts, and equipment dry hire."

Otherwise it looks good. If you're going to circulate it electronically, I'm not too sure about pdf format myself... I'd go with .doc. Most of the computers at the hospital I work in don't have a pdf reader installed, amazingly enough.

[Tom Lovick]

off topic but in your hire section on your website you have a grand ma - do you hire them then?

No we do not hire the Grand ma - It is a stock image that I found.

[Cowlinn]

A small, insignificant thing. But your phone number should ideally be broken up into, 5-3-3 not 4-3-4

i.e. 0772 568 7887
flows better as 07725 687 887

I also agree with the above comments, looks very amateur.

I do however like the selection of small photographs.

Try to get a faint background, so it's not pure white staring you in the face.

[Charlie Brown]

Or get Cowlin to design you a flyer?

[Corabar Entertainment]

No we do not hire the Grand ma - It is a stock image that I found.
Like the one you 'found' for your logo?

You're going to come a right cropper, Tom, 'borrowing' these images that you have absolutely no legal right to use!

You have been told several times, but just to make it clear once and for all... IT'S THEFT!

[Cowlinn]

Where did you buy the image from, Tom?

[Tom Lovick]

Like the one you 'found' for your logo?

You're going to come a right cropper, Tom, 'borrowing' these images that you have absolutely no legal right to use!

You have been told several times, but just to make it clear once and for all... IT'S THEFT!

The one I am using for my logo is one that I bought from a Stock image site. (http://www.freedigitalphotos.net)

The image I think Chris is talking about, http://www.horizon-events.co.uk/_/rsrc/1294057305479/equipment-hire/Lighting%20desk.JPG?height=150&width=200 Is one that a friend of mine has given me. Taken at an even they have done. I can even name the person should you require me to, to prove I can use it.

Hence this disclaimer:


*All photos on this website are taken by Tom Lovick, Matthew Chambault or Given to Horizon Events by the owner, and are copyrighted for use only on Horizon Events website and promotional flyers and leaflets*

[Booche]

Had this laying around for quite a while, which i made for mine before altering the company image etc...

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[DeckstarDeluxe]

Why is nobody using landlines anymore???

[Charlie Brown]

Why is nobody using landlines anymore???

Landlines are the best port of call.

[Tom Lovick]

Why is nobody using landlines anymore???


Landlines are the best port of call.

I am looking into getting one of these 'Vonage' Phone lines to use as a landline.

[Gareth]

off topic but in your hire section on your website you have a grand ma - do you hire them then?

Brought this up before and got no where...

[Corabar Entertainment]

The one I am using for my logo is one that I bought from a Stock image site. (http://www.freedigitalphotos.net)

The image I think Chris is talking about, http://www.horizon-events.co.uk/_/rsrc/1294057305479/equipment-hire/Lighting%20desk.JPG?height=150&width=200 Is one that a friend of mine has given me. Taken at an even they have done. I can even name the person should you require me to, to prove I can use it.

Hence this disclaimer:I really do hope that you have now taken on board what people have said to you and that you have purchased the stock image now, and that the other one is from a friend of yours (and that he had rights to it). The problem is 'the little boy who cried wolf' syndrome here, because we have been around the block a few times with this before.

[Booche]

Why is nobody using landlines anymore???

I'm waiting for my new landline to be sorted (new line needed) :D

But im no longer using this flyer....

[Booche]

off topic but in your hire section on your website you have a grand ma - do you hire them then?

Brought this up before and got no where...

Post #6 ;)

[Tom Lovick]

I really do hope that you have now taken on board what people have said to you and that you have purchased the stock image now, and that the other one is from a friend of yours (and that he had rights to it). The problem is 'the little boy who cried wolf' syndrome here, because we have been around the block a few times with this before.

Yep I have bought the stock image now and it is the one in my new logo:
http://www.horizon-events.co.uk/_/rsrc/1294018726137/config/customLogo.gif?revision=12

I also have the rights to the other image from the friend who took the photo.

Thanks,

Tom

[DeckstarDeluxe]

We wont be beaten on price?????

Care to expand on that one? Sounds like your selling windows and door frames here not a professional disco service.

[Booche]

Tom i've just got the same image as you and it's the free download which you have got which is not bought.

And yes i can prove this....

So did you buy it ?

[Tom Lovick]

Tom i've just got the same image as you and it's the free download which you have got which is not bought.

And yes i can prove this....

So did you buy it ?

which image is this Dave?

[Booche]

which image is this Dave?

The sunrise/horizon one

10535Image: Keattikorn / FreeDigitalPhotos.net (http://www.freedigitalphotos.net/images/view_photog.php?photogid=1692)

EDIT: Added FREE image.

[Tom Lovick]

The sunrise/horizon one

I got it from the site I posted to angela earlier, where you can get it for free (with a link back to them) or buy it to use it without quoting back to them.

[Booche]

I got it from the site I posted to angela earlier, where you can get it for free (with a link back to them) or buy it to use it without quoting back to them.

Yes but you said and i quote "I bought it" which you plainly haven't as it's the free one :(

I'm gonna step out this as i know were it's going ONCE AGAIN.................

[Tom Lovick]

Dave I did buy it and have the reciept. To prove it.

[Chris1984]

sorry just got back to this

so your using an image your friend took of a lighting desk on your hire which you dont hire?
why?

I might put pictures of wild lions my friend took on my hire page - i dont hire them either.

[Alchemy]

We wont be beaten on price?????

Care to expand on that one? Sounds like your selling windows and door frames here not a professional disco service.

Ha ha, you must be a mind reader. That was my EXACT thoughts when I read the flyer, read the rest of the thread before I posted (luckily) :)

One other observation Tom, I really prefer your Horizon signature image that you use on this forum to the sunrise thingy.

[Marc J]

Tom i've just got the same image as you and it's the free download which you have got which is not bought.

And yes i can prove this....

So did you buy it ?


The sunrise/horizon one


I got it from the site I posted to angela earlier, where you can get it for free (with a link back to them) or buy it to use it without quoting back to them.


Yes but you said and i quote "I bought it" which you plainly haven't as it's the free one :(

This image: Sunrise at First Sight (http://www.freedigitalphotos.net/images/Sunset_And_Sunrise_g108-Sunrise_At_First_Sight_p23246.html) - look at the options down the right. Free with acknowledgement (link back) or can be purchased, starting at $5 for the size Tom needs. If Tom has said he bought it how can you possibly prove otherwise?

And if Tom hasn't then that's his problem. I've had clients been billed £1,000 for a stock image they "thought were OK to use" in their own design. That's £1,000 per image. There are very sophistaced automated tools which the rights owners use to find copyright infringements, nomatter how skewed / cropped / colourised / flipped or edited it has been from the original. It's only a matter of time before you get caught if you use unlicensed stock images...

Edit: I don't like the flyer Tom.

Actually, just read this from http://www.freedigitalphotos.net/images/help/acknowledgement/terms.php : -


Prohibited use - applies to free and paid-for versions
1.Images may not be used on products where the image is the sole reason (or a very strong reason) why someone would buy the product - for example greetings cards, mugs, calendars, T-shirts and so on
2.Images may not be used as a logo, trademark or other corporate identity.

So you might have to revisit that one, Tom!

[ianforest]

Don't like it, sorry.

Too many words...

Images are too small...

It's all very bland and boring.

Not a very effective use of the page at all, there must be what....as much white space as there is text and images. Use the WHOLE page, you're paying for the ink and paper!

And as for image theft? Slap slap slap.

In fact, the 4th image along, the one with the scanner mirror and pink beam that looks like a horizontally reversed version of one of my own images from a previous incarnation of my website...i'll try and dig it out and shame on YOU if it is mine...

[Marc J]

I am looking into getting one of these 'Vonage' Phone lines to use as a landline.

Slightly off topic, but PM me your email address if you like, as Vonage are currently offering 3 months free for us both if I refer you :D

[ianforest]

I've used Vonage now for over 5 years.

[Charlie Brown]

I've used Vonage now for over 5 years.

As the main phone for your business?

[ianforest]

Yes.

[DeckstarDeluxe]

Slightly off topic, but PM me your email address if you like, as Vonage are currently offering 3 months free for us both if I refer you :D

As a member of the Sin Bin Tom doesn't have access to the Pm facility.

[Marc J]

As a member of the Sin Bin Tom doesn't have access to the Pm facility.

Well spotted! In that case Tom, just say here if you'd like the referral and I'll use the email address in the flyer....

[soundtracker]

I've used Vonage now for over 5 years.

I've been using it for about 6 months, absolutely no problems.:)

[Tom Lovick]

And as for image theft? Slap slap slap.

In fact, the 4th image along, the one with the scanner mirror and pink beam that looks like a horizontally reversed version of one of my own images from a previous incarnation of my website...i'll try and dig it out and shame on YOU if it is mine...

Ian this is definitely my image I took it and I remember what event I took it at...

[Danno13]

I would ditch that first photo that looks like a DJ equipment jumble sale, really not a good photo to be using on promotional material!

[Cowlinn]

Tom, add me on msn.

[email protected]

[yourdj]

I would ditch that first photo that looks like a DJ equipment jumble sale, really not a good photo to be using on promotional material!

I would just put one really good pic on it and ditch any photos of equipment/light
shows with empty dancefloors as the average party goer could not really give a stuff. :)

Remember to add bleed if your getting that printed as you will end up with half the text cut into. :)

[Larry B Entertainment]

I got it from the site I posted to angela earlier, where you can get it for free (with a link back to them) or buy it to use it without quoting back to them.
F.A.Q

Can I use an image in my company logo?

No, this is not permitted


I think this says it all really :eek:

[Vectis]

F.A.Q

Can I use an image in my company logo?

No, this is not permitted


I think this says it all really :eek:

Are you sure? This seems a bit vague... :sofa:

[Larry B Entertainment]

Are you sure? This seems a bit vague... :sofa:

Positive :)

That is clearly visible on the FAQ page of the site that Tom linked to.

As they say, theres no such thing as a free lunch lol

Tom, I think a logo revision may be in order before you put anything into print.

[Vectis]

Are you sure? This seems a bit vague... :sofa:



Positive :)

That is clearly visible on the FAQ page of the site that Tom linked to.

As they say, theres no such thing as a free lunch lol

Tom, I think a logo revision may be in order before you put anything into print.

:whoosh: :D ;) :D :D :D

[Charlie Brown]

I don't thin Tom is intending to send these to be printed.

I get the impression he will print them at home...If I'm wrong - Tom spend a bit more money and get them printed.

[Larry B Entertainment]

I don't thin Tom is intending to send these to be printed.

I get the impression he will print them at home...If I'm wrong - Tom spend a bit more money and get them printed.

He shouldnt be printing anything at all using that image in his logo. It is also on his website which could cause him problems.

[funkymook]

I don't thin Tom is intending to send these to be printed.

I get the impression he will print them at home...If I'm wrong - Tom spend a bit more money and get them printed.

Depends really, I can't imagine 500 of these flyers being distributed anywhere where they'll be effective. But a couple of dozen to be put up on notice boards would be better printed at home.

Logo - as a quick fix just drop the picture for the moment, you can source a usable one at your leisure, getting your promotional stuff out asap should be your priority.

[Marc J]

F.A.Q

Can I use an image in my company logo?

No, this is not permitted


I think this says it all really :eek:


Positive :)

That is clearly visible on the FAQ page of the site that Tom linked to.

Tom, I think a logo revision may be in order before you put anything into print.


He shouldnt be printing anything at all using that image in his logo. It is also on his website which could cause him problems.

Keep up at the back! I mentioned that in post #30 :)

[funkymook]

Keep up at the back! I mentioned that in post #30 :)

The validity of using the picture in the logo has been in question since post 9 :)

[Marc J]

The validity of using the picture in the logo has been in question since post 9 :)

And cleared up once and for all in post 30 :D

[Corabar Entertainment]

:handbag:


:D :p :D :p :D :p :D

[funkymook]

And cleared up once and for all in post 30 :D

Ah yes indeed, you're right! - I missed it amongst all the other stuff when I quickly read through it. :)

[Larry B Entertainment]

Keep up at the back! I mentioned that in post #30 :)

Sorry, I too didnt spot that as I was browsing through :)