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milo
11-03-2011, 06:44 PM
My son is 9 and he’s been earning his pocket money for a few years now by doing housework and running little errands for me. I took him to a 6 year olds birthday party today because I was worried about some little :Censored: er, I mean angel… messing with my new speaker. Ethan proved to be quite useful for choosing, starting and stopping music during games and he also did the birthday song and everything else really well. I’m thinking I might take him along with me on the weekends and give him £10.00 a day for helping out. I think it’s about time he learned how to twist balloons too!

Has anyone else “employed” their young kids as helpers? :p

Kernow
11-03-2011, 07:01 PM
My son is 9 and he’s been earning his pocket money for a few years now by doing housework and running little errands for me. I took him to a 6 year olds birthday party today because I was worried about some little :Censored: er, I mean angel… messing with my new speaker. Ethan proved to be quite useful for choosing, starting and stopping music during games and he also did the birthday song and everything else really well. I’m thinking I might take him along with me on the weekends and give him £10.00 a day for helping out. I think it’s about time he learned how to twist balloons too!

Has anyone else “employed” their young kids as helpers? :p

Loosely interpreted, he can do this, but will need a performance licence and probably also insurance ?

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Parents/ParentsRights/DG_4002945

milo
11-03-2011, 07:29 PM
lol – Performance licence? I’m not signing him up with an acting agency:D He’ll be pushing the play and pause button on an iPod/laptop… I took him to a boot fair last year and he had his own sales table too…..:eek:

nisfo
11-03-2011, 08:15 PM
My eldest lad is 7, he sometimes gives me a hand when packing away at my regular venue. He gets £10 each time for basically standing by the car...lol
He saves it and treats himself to Lego, he has nearly 3 large toolboxes full.

My younger lad is 5 but doesn't seem that interested.

Kernow
11-03-2011, 08:59 PM
lol – Performance licence? I’m not signing him up with an acting agency:D He’ll be pushing the play and pause button on an iPod/laptop… I took him to a boot fair last year and he had his own sales table too…..:eek:

http://www.education.gov.uk/publications/eOrderingDownload/Child_employment.pdf
It is illegal for a child under 13 to be employed, unless by a parent and in an agricultural setting when they can do "light work" at 10

Check out page 11 particularly, where discotheques and places of entertainment are expressly forbidden :(
Interestingly, however, they can do so if the entertainment is provided entirely by children and that's where the 'performance licence', comes into play ;)
Independent enterprise (i.e the car boot) does not appear to be regarded as employment, although the usual rules regarding 'invitation to treat' and contract to buy/sell apply to all minors. They must also not collect money without the supervision of an adult.
Chores around the house for pocket money is perfectly acceptable, but anything else places you on a sticky wicket. :(

p.s I'm not a childrens rights fanatic (if I had my way they'd still be up chimneys !! ;) :D) but they do need protection, as do their guardians

milo
11-03-2011, 09:25 PM
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My eldest lad is 7, he sometimes gives me a hand when packing away at my regular venue. He gets £10 each time for basically standing by the car...lol
He saves it and treats himself to Lego, he has nearly 3 large toolboxes full.

My younger lad is 5 but doesn't seem that interested.

lol – Ethan is a Lego fanatic too… All he ever what’s for birthdays and Christmas is Lego and he does the big sets (like Hogwarts) in just a few hours:cool: ! He’s after Star Wars 10143 - Death Star 2, but at £500.00 he’s got some saving to do! :eek:



http://www.education.gov.uk/publications/eOrderingDownload/Child_employment.pdf
It is illegal for a child under 13 to be employed, unless by a parent and in an agricultural setting when they can do "light work" at 10

Check out page 11 particularly, where discotheques and places of entertainment are expressly forbidden :(
Interestingly, however, they can do so if the entertainment is provided entirely by children and that's where the 'performance licence', comes into play ;)
Independent enterprise (i.e the car boot) does not appear to be regarded as employment, although the usual rules regarding 'invitation to treat' and contract to buy/sell apply to all minors. They must also not collect money without the supervision of an adult.
Chores around the house for pocket money is perfectly acceptable, but anything else places you on a sticky wicket. :(

p.s I'm not a childrens rights fanatic (if I had my way they'd still be up chimneys !! ;) :D) but they do need protection, as do their guardians

:) I’ll rephrase in case any officials are reading… My son wants to come to work with his daddy and push the play pause button on an ipod. I’ll buy him the occasional Lego set as a thank you.;)

Kernow
11-03-2011, 09:32 PM
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:) I’ll rephrase in case any officials are reading… My son wants to come to work with his daddy and push the play pause button on an ipod. I’ll buy him the occasional Lego set as a thank you.;)
:thumbs_up:

(Only looking out for you and the lad ;) :D)

milo
11-03-2011, 09:54 PM
:thumbs_up:

(Only looking out for you and the lad ;) :D)

;)

Jason
11-03-2011, 10:03 PM
For kids parties when I have my kids over, I use my 14yr old to help set-up/carry gear (must get her to bulk up so she can lift the subs in...lol).

This is every few months, and she gets to earn £10 pocket money. These are all smallish gigs for kids aged normally 12 or 13. Its not hard work, and I'd not do anything that could be risky for her.

To be honest, she gets an appreciation of how much work is needed to earn money, and helps with requests - so a basic bit of customer service.
I'd much prefer my kids get an understanding on how the world works. Sitting around playing DS/Wii/XBOX isn't gonna teach them that.

yourdj
11-03-2011, 10:42 PM
5. to do jobs for rewards. IMO.

Excalibur
12-03-2011, 06:49 AM
[p.s I'm not a childrens rights fanatic (if I had my way they'd still be up chimneys !! ;) :D) but they do need protection, as do their guardians

What do you mean "Would be" ?:confused: :confused: :confused: It's the only way mine made a living. ;) :( :(

Solitaire Events Ltd
12-03-2011, 09:23 AM
Cor, £10 you tight sods...

I've given my daughter £20 when she's helped me! (Twice!!)

Jonathan Ford
12-03-2011, 09:59 AM
Cor, £10 you tight sods...

I've given my daughter £20 when she's helped me! (Twice!!)

My 15 year old daughter helps me set up whenever I'm working very locally...and I give her nothing :o

BeerFunk
12-03-2011, 10:03 AM
£10 for helping out for a few hours?

At that age, I used to get up at 6, deliver papers for up to an hour before going to school, then the same again after school, and of course again on Saturday. I got paid £13 for the week.

Kernow
12-03-2011, 10:24 AM
What do you mean "Would be" ?:confused: :confused: :confused: It's the only way mine made a living. ;) :( :(
Well at least they were upwardly mobile ;) , guiding pit-ponies (as mine did) is a low-level ,dead end job with no light at the end of the tunnel :p :D :D :D

Charlie Brown
12-03-2011, 10:25 AM
Two

funkymook
12-03-2011, 10:51 AM
I must commend the forum members on their restraint from not quoting the Four Yorkshiremen.

simonp
12-03-2011, 01:13 PM
£10 for helping out for a few hours?

At that age, I used to get up at 6, deliver papers for up to an hour before going to school, then the same again after school, and of course again on Saturday. I got paid £13 for the week.

:lol: - cue up the hovis theme, and I bet you went up hill (both directions) in 6t of snow, paper bags weighing you down - you had no shoes nor socks and all you had for Christmas is what Grandad could pick from under his big toenail :rofl: ;)


I must commend the forum members on their restraint from not quoting the Four Yorkshiremen.

Steady Eddie ;)

BeerFunk
12-03-2011, 01:20 PM
:lol: - cue up the hovis theme, and I bet you went up hill (both directions) in 6t of snow, paper bags weighing you down - you had no shoes nor socks and all you had for Christmas is what Grandad could pick from under his big toenail :rofl: ;):lol:

That's not too much of an exaggeration! :D

No I was just saying that if I had the chance to help out a few hours at the weekend for pretty much the same money, and really doing very little comparatively, I'd have jumped at it! :)

Excalibur
12-03-2011, 01:39 PM
Cor, £10 you tight sods...

I've given my daughter £20 when she's helped me! (Twice!!)
Yeah, but if I did that, I'd lose money on the gig. :o :o :( :( :( :( :(

I must commend the forum members on their restraint from not quoting the Four Yorkshiremen.
Only cos I haven't found another three yet. :( :(

Megamix
12-03-2011, 05:08 PM
one of my three sons is 21...can I get him to help...well you guess the answer