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DynamoTom
20-03-2011, 10:40 PM
Hello,

I am currently in the process of upgrading my show and at the moment, I am using a cheap Prolight 4ft deckstand with dual overhead lighting bar. The deckstand has lasted me for about a year now and it is starting to fall apart and become slightly unsafe.

I am looking at getting a Ultimax UMDJS12T Deckstand & Dual Over Head Lighting Bar to upgrade my show.

I am looking to hang 4 Acme Dynamos, 2 Acme Magic Gobos and a Kam Starcluster 3D laser on the dual lighting bar for my basic package and for the advanced package, 2 Acme Dynarocks, 2 Pulse LED Par Can 56's, 1 Acme Impossibled and 1 Kam Starcluster 3D laser.

I will be using active speakers so all I will have on the shelf is, my playout slant top rack case and a laptop for music reference.

If anyone uses this stand, please comment below and tell me your thoughts on it.

Many thanks,

Tom.

DJDC
20-03-2011, 10:55 PM
Tom

I've got one with the dual bar, does the job great get the split upright though. If you work in a venue with a low (ish) ceiling you cannot get the uprights in! Caught me out a few times. They are quite sturdy and will take some stick I've had ultimax deck stands many years ago and they lasted very well.

If you look up my photo's from last weekend wedding you'll see

2 x dynamo's 2 x dynarocks, 2 x dynatwins & 2 x slimline par 64's. If I drop the 2 pars I can replace them for a LS Aqua laser.

DynamoTom
20-03-2011, 10:59 PM
Tom

I've got one with the dual bar, does the job great get the split upright though. If you work in a venue with a low (ish) ceiling you cannot get the uprights in! Caught me out a few times. They are quite sturdy and will take some stick I've had ultimax deck stands many years ago and they lasted very well.

If you look up my photo's from last weekend wedding you'll see

2 x dynamo's 2 x dynarocks, 2 x dynatwins & 2 x slimline par 64's. If I drop the 2 pars I can replace them for a LS Aqua laser.

I'm looking to get one with a dual bar also as I think dual lighting bar looks nicer than a single bar and you can hang more lighting effects with a dual bar.

I totally agree about the uprights catching you out on low cellings, I've had it done to me a couple of times with my Prolight stand.

I will check out your wedding pictures now.

Andy Goodtimes
20-03-2011, 11:06 PM
I use Ultimax, not sure of model numbers but mine is the 4 ft version so it fits inside my booth, I have the 6ft cross bars but not used them for a while. I use the wind up pods in mine but have used the standard uprights which peg at regular intervals.

I have seen the cheaper stands such as Prolight, Rhino and KAM and they look far more flimsy. I have never had any issues with the Ultimax stuff falling apart or breaking and would highly recommend them.

I have various overhead bar combinations but mostly use 2 lengths of 1.25m double trusslight and at times I have had 2 wizards, 2 visio bars and 4 lasers on it with no issues...That's prob knocking on for 40kg, for larger jobs I use tripods or a square truss system.

One of the big advantages of Ultimax is spares are always available and there is a big range of add ons like wheels, shelves, brackets etc.

DynamoTom
20-03-2011, 11:13 PM
I use Ultimax, not sure of model numbers but mine is the 4 ft version so it fits inside my booth, I have the 6ft cross bars but not used them for a while. I use the wind up pods in mine but have used the standard uprights which peg at regular intervals.

I have seen the cheaper stands such as Prolight, Rhino and KAM and they look far more flimsy. I have never had any issues with the Ultimax stuff falling apart or breaking and would highly recommend them.

I have various overhead bar combinations but mostly use 2 lengths of 1.25m double trusslight and at times I have had 2 wizards, 2 visio bars and 4 lasers on it with no issues...That's prob knocking on for 40kg, for larger jobs I use tripods or a square truss system.

One of the big advantages of Ultimax is spares are always available and there is a big range of add ons like wheels, shelves, brackets etc.

To be quite honest, I wish I had brought a Ultimax stand when I was looking for one instead of opting for the cheap Prolight one.

I am going for a 4ft one because I am trying to reduce the size of my show but still create a nice decent effect.

Am I able to get whinch pods for a standard Ultimax stand without buying the Whinch and Wheel stand from Ultimax?

TONYTIGER
21-03-2011, 07:08 AM
To be quite honest, I wish I had brought a Ultimax stand when I was looking for one instead of opting for the cheap Prolight one.

I am going for a 4ft one because I am trying to reduce the size of my show but still create a nice decent effect.

Am I able to get whinch pods for a standard Ultimax stand without buying the Whinch and Wheel stand from Ultimax?

Yes the winch pods are available as separate items but remember you will need to buy the end frames to suit the pods as they are larger diameter tubes.

DynamoTom
21-03-2011, 10:43 AM
Yes the winch pods are available as separate items but remember you will need to buy the end frames to suit the pods as they are larger diameter tubes.

Would you be able to tell me which end frames I would require to use whinch pods?

TONYTIGER
21-03-2011, 11:36 AM
Would you be able to tell me which end frames I would require to use whinch pods?

If you give Ultimax a ring they will sort you out you just want the ones with the larger tubes to take the pods,then join with the 4 ft cross pieces.

DynamoTom
21-03-2011, 11:44 AM
If you give Ultimax a ring they will sort you out you just want the ones with the larger tubes to take the pods,then join with the 4 ft cross pieces.

Thank you.

I was looking at buying the stand from here - http://www.htfr.com/product.php?productID=254152.

Would this make any difference?

funkymook
21-03-2011, 11:54 AM
Thank you.

I was looking at buying the stand from here - http://www.htfr.com/product.php?productID=254152.

Would this make any difference?

Personally I'd contact Ultimax directly - I've had issues with HTFR before with items not being sent as they're out of stock (though showing available on-line) and 5 - 6 weeks delivery time being quoted in the covering letter.

Though in fairness they did some good customer service when I complained and they refunded more than the items worth as a good will gesture for the inconvenience.

DynamoTom
21-03-2011, 12:06 PM
Personally I'd contact Ultimax directly - I've had issues with HTFR before with items not being sent as they're out of stock (though showing available on-line) and 5 - 6 weeks delivery time being quoted in the covering letter.

Though in fairness they did some good customer service when I complained and they refunded more than the items worth as a good will gesture for the inconvenience.

I have ordered from HTFR before and I've never had any problems (that I can remember). If I go through Ultimax directly, would it cost me more?

TONYTIGER
21-03-2011, 12:10 PM
I have ordered from HTFR before and I've never had any problems (that I can remember). If I go through Ultimax directly, would it cost me more?

No,very nice people.just ask for a price then you can compare..

DynamoTom
21-03-2011, 12:16 PM
No,very nice people.just ask for a price then you can compare..

Thank you.

I have sent them a message requesting for a quote for the UMDJS12T deckstand with dual overhead lighting bar and the two Ultimax end pieces.

I will let you guys know what the reply is when I receive one.

funkymook
21-03-2011, 12:20 PM
I have ordered from HTFR before and I've never had any problems (that I can remember). If I go through Ultimax directly, would it cost me more?

Good for you.

Try actually contacting somebody for prices etc. there's only so much that can be advised on a forum!

DynamoTom
21-03-2011, 12:48 PM
Good for you.

Try actually contacting somebody for prices etc. there's only so much that can be advised on a forum!

I will try and contact some dealers for Ultimax and see what they can offer me.

DJDC
21-03-2011, 07:43 PM
Speak to the guys directly as recommeneded they are very good to deal with. HTFR are good but I had to wait 2 weeks when I ordered one as I wanted to retro fit the dual bar to my exsisting stand. I would also suggest ordering the long 25mm hook clamps 165mm drop These go on the top bar opposed to the bottom and helps distribute the weight more evenly. I brought the dual bar so I could pre wire everything up on the back btweeen the 2 bars (you see very few wires).

gaza
24-03-2011, 07:20 PM
Tom

I've got one with the dual bar, does the job great get the split upright though. If you work in a venue with a low (ish) ceiling you cannot get the uprights in! Caught me out a few times. They are quite sturdy and will take some stick I've had ultimax deck stands many years ago and they lasted very well.

If you look up my photo's from last weekend wedding you'll see

2 x dynamo's 2 x dynarocks, 2 x dynatwins & 2 x slimline par 64's. If I drop the 2 pars I can replace them for a LS Aqua laser.



Tilt the deckstand so its on an angle then put the upright in and after lowering the deckstand back put the bolts in at the highest position you can get them.:)

nisfo
24-03-2011, 07:37 PM
HTFR more like Hard To Find Anything. I was looking for a low fogger, checked HTFR website. It stated that they some in stock, so I thought I'd double check and phoned them.......Yes they have one. So I got in the car and travelled over (20 minute drive). I urgently needed it for a gig the next night :eek:

I got to the counter and told them I had called about it. Only to be told that they hadn't actually got any :mad: :Censored: :mad:

No-one would own up to taking my call:daft: :muppet: .

So in the end I had to go to my supplier and order one, plus pay the extra for next day delivery.

There are far many more RELIABLE outlets than HTFR. I have never had any issues with DFB in Nottingham, they seem to be the competitors within my radius ;)

Vectis
24-03-2011, 08:16 PM
Tilt the deckstand so its on an angle then put the upright in and after lowering the deckstand back put the bolts in at the highest position you can get them.:)

Fine until you come across the narrow stage with the deep pelmet :o

Corabar Steve
24-03-2011, 08:39 PM
Tilt the deckstand so its on an angle then put the upright in and after lowering the deckstand back put the bolts in at the highest position you can get them.:)
Or alternately, put them in before you bolt the stand together, or buy the 2 piece uprights.

Excalibur
24-03-2011, 09:48 PM
Or alternately, put them in before you bolt the stand together, or buy the 2 piece uprights.

Hey ho, another Graduate summa cum laude, from the School of the bleedin' obvious. :approve:

Corabar Steve
24-03-2011, 09:50 PM
Well, yeah, but it's amazing how many don't think of it.

Excalibur
24-03-2011, 09:57 PM
Well, yeah, but it's amazing how many don't think of it.

Ain't it just. ;) :D I've done it myself. :o :o Not twice, though. :D :D :D :D