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gharbud
13-04-2011, 08:50 PM
hi guys, im having a few issues with vdj at the moment wen loading videos and long tracks, keeps giving me decompression errors not enough physical ram??, im currently using a macbook pro 2007, with 4gb ram installed, and windows xp 32bit, on system it says that i only have 2.98?? so im presuming that is its maxium for that operating system, so i then installed vista 32bit home and i then get 3052mb but still not the 4gb, so then tried win 7 ultimate 32bit, (all copies of operating systems are legal by the way), and that says 4gb (2.98 usable, so what ive been reading if i get hold of the vista 64bit version or win7 64bit, i can access all my memory? thankyou
Takeiteasy
13-04-2011, 08:57 PM
I've got a 64bit PC and would also like to know the difference between this and the 32bit machines .... ?
I brought some software the other day and it said CALL FOR 64bit CODE :?
Jason
13-04-2011, 10:41 PM
Most modern Intel processors are 64-bit capable, certainly Atoms.
This will allow them to handle 64-bit numbers (so fairly precise floating point), and more importantly for most of us, address more memory.
WinXP with 2GB of RAM on a Dual-Core processor is ample for VDJ on 2 Decks playing MP3. Nothing has changed..
To the OP, you'll never see the full 4GB on a 32-bit OS. This also assumes you have a separate graphics adapter with its own memory...
I'm on 32Bit Linux here, but have 4GB of Ram on this laptop
I'd say there are other issues if you're getting memory problems. Either other apps, corrupt files, OS problems etc.
James
13-04-2011, 11:33 PM
I'd describe it in layman's terms as.....going from a playstation 2 to a playstation 3
If you're playing back video files live, then i'd suggest getting as much memory as you can and a dedicated graphices card (although i'm not sure you can for laptops?)
Win xp can only support 3 gb ram, although i've read elsewhere you can get 64 bit versions of xp now? not sure about that though.
Win xp 64 bit has been around for years, not very good though, windows 7 64bit on the other hand, is great.
Takeiteasy
14-04-2011, 02:30 PM
Can all this 64bit windows 7 thing help when it comes to internet speeed thou ?
DiscoPromotions
14-04-2011, 03:03 PM
hi guys, im having a few issues with vdj at the moment wen loading videos and long tracks, keeps giving me decompression errors not enough physical ram??, im currently using a macbook pro 2007, with 4gb ram installed, and windows xp 32bit, on system it says that i only have 2.98?? so im presuming that is its maxium for that operating system, so i then installed vista 32bit home and i then get 3052mb but still not the 4gb, so then tried win 7 ultimate 32bit, (all copies of operating systems are legal by the way), and that says 4gb (2.98 usable, so what ive been reading if i get hold of the vista 64bit version or win7 64bit, i can access all my memory? thankyou
Macbook Pro 2007... Shame it has got Windows on it.. Oh well.
Jason
14-04-2011, 07:07 PM
Can all this 64bit windows 7 thing help when it comes to internet speeed thou ?
No... unless you're running a busy server (and have the RAM to support it).
For your use, typical internet speeds are slow. If you're running lots of other apps (Games, Office and a few Browser instances), then I guess you may see a minor slowdown if the PC is paging to disk due to low ram.
Takeiteasy
14-04-2011, 11:04 PM
Well thank that clears that up :)
Booche
17-04-2011, 04:43 AM
hi guys, im having a few issues with vdj at the moment wen loading videos and long tracks, keeps giving me decompression errors not enough physical ram??, im currently using a macbook pro 2007, with 4gb ram installed, and windows xp 32bit, on system it says that i only have 2.98?? so im presuming that is its maxium for that operating system, so i then installed vista 32bit home and i then get 3052mb but still not the 4gb, so then tried win 7 ultimate 32bit, (all copies of operating systems are legal by the way), and that says 4gb (2.98 usable, so what ive been reading if i get hold of the vista 64bit version or win7 64bit, i can access all my memory? thankyou
Now just to clarify i dont own a Apple product (wish i did) but for:
1: Why has it got windows installed ?
2: Try and get it back to Apple product as you will find it alot better
3: Once back on Apple im sure you will find it wont get the error (Might be wrong and will await Vectis to rectify me)
3: If you do stick with Windows (No idea why though) have you tryed XP as that is the lowest resource using OS apart from Win95 which im 99.9% wont do you any favours.
Im currently running Vist 32bit on home pc with 4gb ram and a quad core processor and it handles all my design appz (i do have alot and i mean alot) and i can run VDJ 7 very easily without any lag/errors etc etc
On my backup lappy for gigs i have a Dell with XP Pro and i run VDJ 6 on there and it runs very smoothly, every so often it goes right up on the CPU loading level but its only got 1gb ram installed :eek:
I think personnally you might be better off formating you main HDD and getting it back to Apple and then sort VDJ out for the Mac.
But again i dont own a Apple product so im litterally going off experiance etc :)
DiscoPromotions
17-04-2011, 10:49 AM
Now just to clarify i dont own a Apple product (wish i did) but for:
Just throwing in my two pennies
1: Why has it got windows installed ?
Referring to my earlier post, what a waste. Swapping a stable operating system for an operating system that will crash from when you switch it on. It is like swapping a ferrari engine with an old Skoda engine
2: Try and get it back to Apple product as you will find it alot better Best course of action
3: Once back on Apple im sure you will find it wont get the error (Might be wrong and will await Vectis to rectify me) Decompression Error, would like to see the screen shot on that, but I have used VirtualDJ on MacBook with 2GB no problems here. Compared to PC version with the same RAM and simliar CPU, the MAC out performed it big time.
3: If you do stick with Windows (No idea why though) have you tryed XP as that is the lowest resource using OS apart from Win95 which im 99.9% wont do you any favours.
Why stick with Windows when you can have Apple I do not think I will ever understand. However, I agree XP has the lowest resources, but the best OS i used with Windows 2003 server standard Core Installation.
Im currently running Vist 32bit on home pc with 4gb ram and a quad core processor and it handles all my design appz (i do have alot and i mean alot) and i can run VDJ 7 very easily without any lag/errors etc etc Do recommend you downgrade to XP with Service Pack 3
On my backup lappy for gigs i have a Dell with XP Pro and i run VDJ 6 on there and it runs very smoothly, every so often it goes right up on the CPU loading level but its only got 1gb ram installed :eek:Increase the RAM to 3GB and I personally would this one than the vista one
I think personnally you might be better off formating you main HDD and getting it back to Apple and then sort VDJ out for the Mac.
But again i dont own a Apple product so im litterally going off experiance etc :)
To warp this up.. A Macbook pro with Windows installed on it. Say no more
Corabar Entertainment
17-04-2011, 12:17 PM
Just thought I'd add a little bit in here.... chaps, I cannot recall the reason, but there is a thread on here explaining why he's gone over to windows. Have a look through his previous posts.
DiscoPromotions
17-04-2011, 12:38 PM
Just thought I'd add a little bit in here.... chaps, I cannot recall the reason, but there is a thread on here explaining why he's gone over to windows. Have a look through his previous posts.
Honesty there is no excuse to use Windows on a MacBook :bang:
DJ James Lake
17-04-2011, 08:23 PM
Honesty there is no excuse to use Windows on a MacBook :bang:
There is and exactly why I do the same thing.
With VDJ half the plugins aren't available for the mac version. Its also more stable on windows (believe it or not).
And should VDJ crash on a mac it will shut the program instantly, under windows it will continue to play the current song to the end but refuse to load the next song giving time to switch to a backup source.
Other programs like traktor and serato definetely OSX but not for VDJ
DiscoPromotions
17-04-2011, 09:03 PM
There is and exactly why I do the same thing.
With VDJ half the plugins aren't available for the mac version. Its also more stable on windows (believe it or not).
And should VDJ crash on a mac it will shut the program instantly, under windows it will continue to play the current song to the end but refuse to load the next song giving time to switch to a backup source.
Other programs like traktor and serato definetely OSX but not for VDJ
Fair Point if VDJ is not playing ball on Mac, but my only question is why not get Windows Laptop than Macback?
DJ James Lake
18-04-2011, 10:41 AM
Fair Point if VDJ is not playing ball on Mac, but my only question is why not get Windows Laptop than Macback?
VDJ does play ball on OSX but as I mentioned it runs better and has more plugins with windows.
One of the advantages of running a macbook with a dual boot system you can keep the windows side solely for DJing with and keep it clean and boot into OSX for general use like net surfing etc. so no need for 2 laptops
gharbud
18-04-2011, 06:50 PM
the reason why im using windows on the mac is because of compatibility, ive been using virtual dj for 4 years now and built up the database, now when i first got my macbook installed vdj, it doesnt recognise songs or playlists, or bpms etccc, so after a lot of forum searching, and people saying start again and youl have to reformate your drive, i just opted for putting windows on it, which a lot of people have done, and ive never had any problems with it up until now, but i have installed win7 64bit and all is good, i have never had any problems atall wen djing using windows xp vista or 7
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