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Solitaire Events Ltd
19-04-2011, 10:55 AM
I did a few when the law changed and thought it was going to be a fantastic market and lots more work, but the truth is, it appears to be a very quiet market for me and not as much work and interest as I originally thought.

Any views on this?

Shaun
19-04-2011, 11:04 AM
Exactly the same for me. I did 3 in the first year when the law changed and none since.

STEVE HANLEY
19-04-2011, 11:06 AM
I did one last year and it was a fantastic night. Thought it would pay dividends. I've had nixie since despite pics etc on my website.

Oh I've had one enqiury for a gay disco via Yell.com :Censored: :Censored: enough said:( :(

Corabar Entertainment
19-04-2011, 11:07 AM
Pretty much the same here. Very few enquiries for these now (Mind you, we've got one next month).

It could be that some are specialising in this market and they are the ones getting the work,

On a related note.....:blush: Noticed a typo on my enquiry form the other day... I'd put 'Civil Ceremony' instead of 'Civil Partnership'. It's been like that for the last year and I didn't notice! That probably hasn't helped much!!!

Excalibur
19-04-2011, 11:48 AM
Exactly the same for me. I did 3 in the first year when the law changed and none since.

Fairly much mirrors my experience.;)

Charlie Brown
19-04-2011, 11:50 AM
I've only done one (which was an absolute blast..I got on really well with them and even had a dance at the end. Not sure why. :confused: :D ) and have one in September..should be two, but they suddenly decided I was too pricey.

Steve the DJ
19-04-2011, 12:07 PM
I have entertained at a fair few but still not as many as I would have liked or hoped for.

simonp
19-04-2011, 12:46 PM
Similar story here - I've done three - all were good nights - I got a further booking from one of them to do a G.A.Y night type disco for a Birthday Party (even though the Civil Partnership Event I got that booking from was a pretty standard night). I've had one cancelled on me for this year (they split up) and I've got one booked for May next year.

soundtracker
19-04-2011, 12:56 PM
Just one for me as well, mirrors everyone else!

BeerFunk
19-04-2011, 05:17 PM
I know quite a few gay guys, and only two of them have been in a relationship for longer than 3 years, so there might be something in that (although that is based only on my experience, which I'm aware might not be reflective of the UK as a whole).

Creature
19-04-2011, 05:27 PM
O only have done one - not long after the law changed. Altho I didnt twigg till halfway thru the nite that it was a civil partnership ! ( especially as I knew the 2 women very well, but I just dont take any notice).

must admit tho It was a cracking nite

Solitaire Events Ltd
19-04-2011, 05:32 PM
Altho I didnt twigg till halfway thru the nite that it was a civil partnership ! ( especially as I knew the 2 women very well, but I just dont take any notice).


How can you not know what sort of function you are working at? :confused:

simonp
19-04-2011, 05:35 PM
How can you not know what sort of function you are working at? :confused:

Ditto - I thought I read it like that as well - How could he possible not know? does he not speak to the customer first? :confused:

STEVE HANLEY
19-04-2011, 05:36 PM
[Altho I didnt twigg till halfway thru the nite that it was a civil partnership ! ( especially as I knew the 2 women very well, but I just dont take any notice).


Awesome :doh: :Laugh: :Laugh:

Excalibur
19-04-2011, 05:40 PM
How can you not know what sort of function you are working at? :confused:

Quite easily mate, believe me. ;) The first one I did, I was unaware of the subtle nuances. Probably since the venue had told me "It's a wedding". :D

WWDJ
19-04-2011, 05:40 PM
How can you not know what sort of function you are working at? :confused:

I have been known to double check on the night the name(s) of the person(s) who the party is for, but I generally know why I am there :D
I do quite a few parties in the local WMC and get booked in by the Steward on behalf of, so worth double checking my own notes.

I know a lot of people round here, so generally I don't speak to them once they have booked, but encourage them to get in touch if they need anything specific music / arrangement wise. For functions outside the locale, I double check arrangements one week before.

Banners are always a good clue to how old they are ... not that I really every announce any age over 18 or 21 anyhow as some people are a bit sensitive.

simonp
19-04-2011, 05:40 PM
Awesome :doh: :Laugh: :Laugh:

It was the
but I just dont take any notice).
part that cracked me up. Sounded bang tidy professional :o

STEVE HANLEY
19-04-2011, 05:46 PM
It was the part that cracked me up. Sounded bang tidy professional :o

I'm still crying now. Brilliant:D

CRAZY K
19-04-2011, 08:44 PM
I did a few when the law changed and thought it was going to be a fantastic market and lots more work, but the truth is, it appears to be a very quiet market for me and not as much work and interest as I originally thought.

Any views on this?

Steady.

I do about one a year--got one in May for a couple of ladeez doing a Cowgirl event ;)

Did one last year ( well actually it was a Tranny event:eek: )

Scottish Dancing--anyone for the G.. Gordons :D

My wifes agency is similar, one or two a year---another Cowgirl event next January.

ppentertainments
19-04-2011, 08:47 PM
I have only had 2 civil partnership gigs. I think the novelty has worn out a bit now though.

I have a couple of gay friends who did say that normally people having a civil ceremony will tend to book a gay dj. (and photographer etc).

Corabar Entertainment
19-04-2011, 08:50 PM
On a related note.....:blush: Noticed a typo on my enquiry form the other day... I'd put 'Civil Ceremony' instead of 'Civil Partnership'. It's been like that for the last year and I didn't notice! That probably hasn't helped much!!!Glad to see I'm not the only one who makes that typo....:whistle:
I have a couple of gay friends who did say that normally people having a civil ceremony will tend to book a gay dj. (and photographer etc).:D :D :D

ppentertainments
19-04-2011, 08:53 PM
Glad to see I'm not the only one who makes that typo....:whistle::D :D :D
:p :p :p :D

CRAZY K
19-04-2011, 09:21 PM
How can you not know what sort of function you are working at? :confused:

Easy. You get lied to;)

Some years ago I was booked for a CELEBRATION event by a ladee:confused:

It sounded like some kind of family party to me and I agreed to do a Barn Dance and a Disco.

I dont care what the event is if I get paid;)

I was a little taken aback when I arrived and realised it was a pre-Civil ceremony involving exchange of vows etc.

No problem--THE SHOW GOES ON:beer1: :beer1: :beer1:

visualdjmax
19-04-2011, 09:42 PM
I've done none!

DeckstarDeluxe
19-04-2011, 10:49 PM
I think the boom was from guys/girls in long standing relationships beforehand and now the bottleneck has gone its leveled out?

I've done two, wish I could do more but least I'm not the only one!

Charlie Brown
19-04-2011, 11:11 PM
I've done two, wish I could do more but least I'm not the only one!

:agree:

The CP has been one of my best gigs so far.

Met them beforehand and sold myself.

Come, 10.30pm - I felt that relaxed and easy I had a few beers (which turned into a few that they bought me)

Come 11.30-12.00ish, I was up dancing with them to all sorts, which (sounds weird) I think they enjoyed - the fact the DJ got involved with the guests.

Unprofessional? Yes.
Cringy? Yes.
Care? No.

They own a local sandwhich shop near where I work. I reluctantly popped in a few days ago. Compliments all round and a free Bacon & Brie baguette. Bonus. :sj:

SC Events
19-04-2011, 11:45 PM
Met them beforehand and sold myself.

Careful CB ;) :sj: :D

Corabar Steve
19-04-2011, 11:59 PM
I've heard of White slavery, but that's ridiculous! :sj:

Excalibur
20-04-2011, 12:04 AM
I've heard of White slavery, but that's ridiculous! :sj:

Agreed. Charlie's orange.:coat:

Creature
20-04-2011, 12:39 AM
That once nope didnt go n see them, but then they lived in Birmingham some 90 miles away and teh venue was Mallery Park - so it all done over the phone and emails.

Looking back thru the paper work it did say it was a civil partnership - but I just didnt take it in. but then again why should I.

but it was still a great nite and the 2 ladies concerned had a great laugh about it, and still when we meet up at rallies they have a giggle.

:) :)

Solitaire Events Ltd
20-04-2011, 08:35 AM
Looking back thru the paper work it did say it was a civil partnership - but I just didnt take it in. but then again why should I.



Sorry, but there's no excuse for not knowing what kind of booking you are doing, regardless of how you did the paperwork. Surely you must have asked if they wanted a first dance and the kind of music they wanted etc?

Creature
20-04-2011, 08:51 AM
Surely you must have asked if they wanted a first dance and the kind of music they wanted etc?


Yep - no 1st dance - they only wanted Rock Music all night.

Solitaire Events Ltd
20-04-2011, 08:52 AM
Yep - no 1st dance - they only wanted Rock Music all night.

Fair enough, but if you knew that, I don't get how you didn't know it was a civil partnership! :daft:

Creature
20-04-2011, 09:08 AM
I don't get how you didn't know it was a civil partnership!

because it dont matter to me if they be straight gay or whatever as long as they happy - and ive known em for over 10 years - just dont take any notice of there relationship and treat them the same as anybody else.

simonp
20-04-2011, 09:19 AM
Looking back thru the paper work it did say it was a civil partnership - but I just didnt take it in. but then again why should I.


Must be just me, but it's that part I find really annoying! It comes across as really unprofessional and not being even bothered about 1. The event you're DJing at and 2. The customers themselves.

I must be old fashioned and never realised :confused:

Solitaire Events Ltd
20-04-2011, 09:37 AM
because it dont matter to me if they be straight gay or whatever as long as they happy - and ive known em for over 10 years - just dont take any notice of there relationship and treat them the same as anybody else.

You're missing the point.

I am talking about getting the correct details for the booking, not about whether it matters to you whether they are gay or not.

We are talking about supplying the entertainment for them, so therefore you must need details what the booking is for. It has nothing to do with their sexuality and whether it matters to you, me or anyone else.

DeckstarDeluxe
20-04-2011, 09:40 AM
because it dont matter to me if they be straight gay or whatever as long as they happy - and ive known em for over 10 years - just dont take any notice of there relationship and treat them the same as anybody else.

Think you might of mis read was being said. Nobody has an issue with Civil Partnerships however with all the prep work I do with clients emails/phone calls/meetings that the type of event is the first and properly most important question asked!

Javlingames
20-04-2011, 11:48 AM
Maybe the client told the dj it was a 'wedding' and didnt mention the fact is was a civil ceremony?

Solitaire Events Ltd
20-04-2011, 11:59 AM
Maybe the client told the dj it was a 'wedding' and didnt mention the fact is was a civil ceremony?

It was a civil partnership and do you really think that people would leave details like that out?

I don't think so.

Javlingames
20-04-2011, 12:12 PM
It was a civil partnership and do you really think that people would leave details like that out?

I don't think so.

You can never be sure of anything. Its a possibility. I was booked a few weeks back for a kids party in London on a saturday afternoon, turns out it was for Elle Macpherson's son!!! Nobody said a thing!!

Corabar Entertainment
20-04-2011, 12:21 PM
It was a civil partnership and do you really think that people would leave details like that out?

I don't think so.
Actually, Darren, we have had a CP where they requested a quote for / kept referring to it as a wedding. However, we always get additional details (like most people) so when we received the questionnaire back it became obvious that it was a CP because of the names of the 'B&G'.

James
20-04-2011, 03:22 PM
i tend to get about 3/4 a year on average, i love doing them

Corabar Steve
20-04-2011, 04:02 PM
i tend to get about 3/4 a year on average, i love doing them
Not a whole one then?

Excalibur
20-04-2011, 04:13 PM
Not a whole one then?

Two per customer. No gentleman would ask for more. ;) ;) ;) ;)

mark@pegasus
20-04-2011, 04:28 PM
I've only done 1 since the law changed, but it was a really great night

ppentertainments
20-04-2011, 04:32 PM
it was a CP because of the names of the 'B&G'.
B&G or G&G ???:D

Excalibur
20-04-2011, 04:37 PM
B&G or G&G ???:D

Errrr, what's wrong with B & B ? :confused: :confused:

ppentertainments
20-04-2011, 04:38 PM
Errrr, what's wrong with B & B ? :confused: :confused:
5 minutes, I thought someone would have picked up on that sooner :p :D

Corabar Entertainment
20-04-2011, 04:41 PM
I did put 'B&G' in inverted commas (well, incorrect use of single ones, anyhow). My point was, because they had described it as a wedding, I sent them the paperwork referring to B&G, and it was only the replies which made it clear that it wasn't!

Excalibur
20-04-2011, 04:45 PM
I did put 'B&G' in inverted commas (well, incorrect use of single ones, anyhow). My point was, because they had described it as a wedding, I sent them the paperwork referring to B&G, and it was only the replies which made it clear that it wasn't!

Off the top of my head, ( and I'm prepared to be shot down on this) aren't there some unisex names? Lindsay? There's a politician with a girl's name, and he's a bloke. It'll come to me. Eventually.

Corabar Entertainment
20-04-2011, 04:47 PM
Off the top of my head, ( and I'm prepared to be shot down on this) aren't there some unisex names? Lindsay? There's a politician with a girl's name, and he's a bloke. It'll come to me. Eventually.
Yes, there are quite a few. Thankfully, that wasn't the case here.

musicbox
20-04-2011, 05:20 PM
For what it is worth I have been told that you have to be accepted in this area.

Yes you will get asked to do the odd one or two but all in all they have there own.

We have had a few enquire about a female dj for a special occiasion etc.

But as I am not passed the lead on etc.

Cheers

Pete

Creature
20-04-2011, 05:38 PM
It comes across as really unprofessional and not being even bothered about
How do you know I was unprofessional ! you dont know me from adam so please dont jump to conclussions you cant justify.



1. The event you're DJing at and 2.

I was booked for a wedding and thats what I did the night was talored to there every request, and they were more than happy with what I provided.




The customers themselves.


As for the customers both came across and congradulated me at the end of the night, and have since picked up several jobs from there referals to friends.

They liked the laid back approach I gave them on there night, altho everyone there knew they were gay, they didnt want it blasting out all over the mike.

If you think I am unprofessional in how I work - then thats your views but as you dont know me or how I work or how I strive to make each booking and customer feel special and do my best for there event I advise you to refrain from your comments.

Maybe you need to come and work with me for a few months and you will see just how wrong you are !

Solitaire Events Ltd
20-04-2011, 06:02 PM
You can never be sure of anything. Its a possibility. I was booked a few weeks back for a kids party in London on a saturday afternoon, turns out it was for Elle Macpherson's son!!! Nobody said a thing!!

But it was still a kids party regardless...


Actually, Darren, we have had a CP where they requested a quote for / kept referring to it as a wedding. However, we always get additional details (like most people) so when we received the questionnaire back it became obvious that it was a CP because of the names of the 'B&G'.

But you still knew what it was.


For what it is worth I have been told that you have to be accepted in this area.



I think you were told wrong. I have done about 10-12 and they are just looking for a decent service and top music. This coupled with the fact that I have a gay DJ who works for me, who keeps me 'in touch' so to speak.

Solitaire Events Ltd
20-04-2011, 06:04 PM
altho everyone there knew they were gay, they didnt want it blasting out all over the mike.



And why would they? :confused:

Javlingames
20-04-2011, 07:20 PM
Kids party or wedding, sometimes that's all we know we are doing

Kernow
20-04-2011, 10:17 PM
Errrr, what's wrong with B & B ? :confused: :confused:
Just down the road in Marazion, everything !!! (In relation to same-sex couples)
http://www.thisiscornwall.co.uk/news/Christian-hoteliers-consider-appealing-gay-ban-ruling/article-3120311-detail/article.html
;)


There's a politician with a girl's name, and he's a bloke. It'll come to me. Eventually.

Hilary Benn (MP for Leeds) ?

Excalibur
21-04-2011, 07:45 PM
Just down the road in Marazion, everything !!! (In relation to same-sex couples)
http://www.thisiscornwall.co.uk/news/Christian-hoteliers-consider-appealing-gay-ban-ruling/article-3120311-detail/article.html
;)



Hilary Benn (MP for Leeds) ?

Thanks, Kernow. Hilary is certainly one I was thinking of.
The hoteliers, that one I was aware of, though I haven't been following it "religiously". :coat: