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deltaforce
19-04-2011, 01:23 PM
Okay as in recent discussions i have been advised to raise my prices to that of the local area
I have just had a lady call for a wedding for either 6 or 8 hours depending on price
what would your quote be for this. local prices would be good
when i 've had some reply's i will let you know what i quoted.
bet i'm miles out again.

Steve the DJ
19-04-2011, 01:29 PM
£1295.17.

Solitaire Events Ltd
19-04-2011, 01:29 PM
Aghhhhhhhhhh.....

Charlie Brown
19-04-2011, 01:33 PM
£1295.17.

Seriously, that's rather pricey for a 'standard' disco.

I would quote £420 Friday or £495 Saturday.

TBF - It's hard to justify 'higher' prices when you're offering free discos and your marketing material isn't great.

But do we really need another pricing thread. :o

Steve the DJ
19-04-2011, 01:33 PM
Aghhhhhhhhhh.....

Was it the 17p? :p


Seriously, that's rather pricey for a 'standard' disco.

I would quote £420 Friday or £495 Saturday.

But do we really need another pricing thread. :o

:whoosh:

Shaun
19-04-2011, 01:35 PM
Okay as in recent discussions i have been advised to raise my prices to that of the local area
I have just had a lady call for a wedding for either 6 or 8 hours depending on price
what would your quote be for this. local prices would be good
when i 've had some reply's i will let you know what i quoted.
bet i'm miles out again.

With the exception of 1 other local DJ company (who I've chatted to about prices) I don't know what others around me charge. My prices are based on my running costs and the profit margin I want to make over and above costs.

Phil started a good thread a while back that may be of some interest to you....

http://www.forum.mobilediscodirectory.co.uk/showthread.php?t=15309

axeman
19-04-2011, 01:42 PM
i know a lad, who knows a lad who charges 60 quid.

soundtracker
19-04-2011, 01:42 PM
Seriously, that's rather pricey for a 'standard' disco.

I would quote £420 Friday or £495 Saturday.

TBF - It's hard to justify 'higher' prices when you're offering free discos and your marketing material isn't great.

But do we really need another pricing thread. :o

You'd never get that around here!

deltaforce
19-04-2011, 01:42 PM
ok cheers charlie for a serious answer

I quoted her £160= 6 hours £200= 8 hours

She is gonna get back to me that rarely ever happens

Shaun
19-04-2011, 01:49 PM
ok cheers charlie for a serious answer



I'm glad I took the time to answer. <insert roll eyes smilie here>

SC Events
19-04-2011, 01:52 PM
ok cheers charlie for a serious answer

I quoted her £160= 6 hours £200= 8 hours

She is gonna get back to me that rarely ever happens

I think £275+ is a good starting point. My standard package is £325.

StarZSoundS
19-04-2011, 01:56 PM
ok cheers charlie for a serious answer

I quoted her £160= 6 hours £200= 8 hours

She is gonna get back to me that rarely ever happens


I'm guessing your youngish and seekng a little experience.If you quote nearer £500 (and more) like most would I doubt wether you'd get the chance to do it.Also if you do get her to pay those princely sums and then make a Pigs-Ear of everything(drop the white cloth in your website piccys .....PLEASE) they are going to be after your blood....big style!!


£200 is a lot for a youngster.Stick with what you have .....explain to the Bride that she should be paying a lot more...but that you are going to pull out all the stops to make it a memorable occasion for her.



I'm sure we all discounted our business when we first started.I know I did ....and am now reaping the rewards for doing so.I'm old fashioned I still think £25.00 an hour is ok for someone taking those first furtive steps.....Good Luck!!

Shaun
19-04-2011, 01:59 PM
£200 is a lot for a youngster.Stick with what you have .....explain to the Bride that she should be paying a lot more...but that you are going to pull out all the stops to make it a memorable occasion for her.

I'm old fashioned I still think £25.00 an hour is ok for someone taking those first furtive steps.....Good Luck!!



Again, it depends on their operating costs.


Disposables (eg. bulbs, leads, fuses)
Giveaways (glowsticks etc.)
Roadies
Vehicle costs including servicing, tyres, tax and insurance etc.
Music Purchases
Clothing Purchases and cleaning
Equipment repairs
PA Testing
PLI
Other insurances (eg. equipment)
Licences
Fuel costs
Parking costs

Office costs
Computer
Paper and Ink
Postage
Telephone & Fax
Heat, light & power for office/home (an appropriate proportion)
Advertising
Internet costs (hosting, ISP, email etc.)
Subscriptions


Figure all the above in and suddenly that £25 per hour (which only equates to £250 for two average weekend gigs) seems to look a lot less fruitful.

Shakermaker Promotions
19-04-2011, 02:03 PM
8 Hours Disco Entertainment for me....well, It'd probably be.....er...Oh, this is another pricing thread is it?

Sorry Delta, I don't know what area of the country you're in but I think £200.00 is too cheap for 8 hours. Just my opinion though.

Shaun
19-04-2011, 02:10 PM
Okay as in recent discussions i have been advised to raise my prices to that of the local area
I have just had a lady call for a wedding for either 6 or 8 hours depending on price
what would your quote be for this. local prices would be good
when i 've had some reply's i will let you know what i quoted.
bet i'm miles out again.

I've just looked on your website I see you're still offering free discos. £200 may be expensive after all if they presume that you would be doing it for free.

Corabar Entertainment
19-04-2011, 02:22 PM
As we keep saying, and have been saying for years, there is absolutely no point in plucking figures out from thin air, or basing your prices solely upon what someone else would charge.

Have you gone through the exercise of pricing up your overheads? How many hours do you spend on a gig outside of actual gigging hours? Depending on the service you offer and other factors, that 8 hours gigging can easily equate to 20 hours work. Then, of course, you've got your own experience / ability to factor in.

You can't compare someone who has very low overheads, spends next to no time over and above the gigging time, and who has very little experience with someone who invests heavily in their business, spends many hours with clients / working on their business, and who has vast experience and ability.

So, seriously, have you done any calculations or have you just plucked figures out of thin air?

If you haven't, do a few now to see for yourself.

Mark Wild
19-04-2011, 02:35 PM
I would quote £420 Friday or £495 Saturday.


:lol: Your jokes get worse Charlie :)

Charlie Brown
19-04-2011, 02:42 PM
£200 is a lot for a youngster.


He is 40 odd with kids!


:lol: Your jokes get worse Charlie :)

Unfortunately, that wasn't a joke. :o

Excalibur
19-04-2011, 02:47 PM
But do we really need another pricing thread. :o
Undoubtedly. We haven't had one since 2010.



And it's nearly 21.45 now. :coat:


I'm glad I took the time to answer. <insert roll eyes smilie here>
And so are we Shaun. :)


8 Hours Disco Entertainment for me....well, It'd probably be.....er...Oh, this is another pricing thread is it?

Sorry Delta, I don't know what area of the country you're in but I think £200.00 is too cheap for 8 hours. Just my opinion though.

Even round here, that's on the inexpensive side of not costing an arm and a leg. ;)

chrisj
19-04-2011, 02:58 PM
Darryn, I am near Norwich and often get enquiries from Wisbech and local area. As I am well over an hour away I would charge min £400 for 5 hrs unless it was mid-week and often get the reply 'Sorry you are well out of our budget'.
I know there is not much money Wisbech way generally so your asking fee was quite fair, it certainly was not expensive.

WWDJ
19-04-2011, 03:06 PM
I work on the basis of the total hours for the job. If it was an hour away with 1 hour setup each side that would be 12 hours work. It would come on at over £400 for me.

StarZSoundS
19-04-2011, 03:42 PM
Again, it depends on their operating costs.



Figure all the above in and suddenly that £25 per hour (which only equates to £250 for two average weekend gigs) seems to look a lot less fruitful.





Shaun....you've missed Income Tax of course.....:eek: :eek: :eek:


However I can put a line through nearly 1/2 of your expenses....cos I don't have them!!;) ;) ;)

Sapphire Disco
19-04-2011, 03:51 PM
i know a lad, who knows a lad who charges 60 quid.

Could be the lyrics of a song if someone wants to write rest of it, they could have a hit on their hands :D

As a rough guide I would say no less than £250 and up to £500 but I've always worked on the basis get what you can, without ripping people off :)

Excalibur
19-04-2011, 03:51 PM
Shaun....you've missed Income Tax of course.....:eek: :eek: :eek:


However I can put a line through nearly 1/2 of your expenses....cos I don't have them!!;) ;) ;)

I suspect that there, you are being economical with the actualité. :Naughty:

I read the list, and I reckon you cop for many of them, after all, we use the same PAT tester for a start. ;) :D

Corabar Entertainment
19-04-2011, 03:59 PM
I suspect that there, you are being economical with the actualité. :Naughty:

I read the list, and I reckon you cop for many of them, after all, we use the same PAT tester for a start. ;) :DYes - I don't see how you could put a line through half of them!

Now, you may not charge them to the business and choose instead to pay out of your own pocket (meaning out of your taxed hard earned, rather than pre-tax profit therefore lowering your tax liability), but you've got to be paying the majority of them one way or another!

What half could you delete? :confused:

chrisj
19-04-2011, 04:07 PM
i know a lad, who knows a lad who charges 60 quid.

and if you wanna go lower there is even 50 quid Sid.

but on your day will they do it your way, the way you want it to be,

will you have any doubt it may not work out, will you risk it, wait and see?

2nd verse, different from the first, come on, who is next?

WWDJ
19-04-2011, 04:27 PM
I know a lad, who knows a lad, who charges 60 quid,
Maplin lights and a glitter ball, 30 notes was the ebay bid,
Dubstep, Rap, Britney, he's downloaded it,
Motown and Soul?, "never heard of it",
Ohhhh, I know a lad, who knows a lad, who charges 60 quid,

<altogether now!>....

supersound
19-04-2011, 04:28 PM
Chris you are a poet and dont know it.

I think you could be the next poet laurielle.

No its not a spelling mistake,its because he wishes he had hair to wash and because he's worth it.....lol

Takeiteasy
19-04-2011, 04:31 PM
Maybe try working on a flat rate of £80 per hour with a min of 3 hours.... + travel.

Solitaire Events Ltd
19-04-2011, 04:33 PM
Maybe try working on a flat rate of £80 per hour with a min of 3 hours.... + travel.

Sorry, but what is the point of quoting that? :confused:

StarZSoundS
19-04-2011, 04:46 PM
What half could you delete? :confused:

No Roadie.....fittest 52 year old in Yorkshire!!
Got clothes anyway.
No equipment insurance(Got PLI...but its only about £50.00)
No parking costs.
Minimal Fuel costs(built up enough business in 10 mile radius)
No Office.
All 3 computers....like all of the equipment ....paid for years ago.
No Phone or fax....got a mobile on a great contract...
No heat light or power....as no office...
Don't advertise
Subscription costs.....£1.00 Monthly to the MDD....GREAT VALUE.
Internet costs.....virtually nothing!!


Lean,mean and hungry...and don't worry too much about overheads.....it may affect my performance!!;) ;) ;)

Excalibur
19-04-2011, 05:13 PM
No Roadie.....fittest 52 year old in Yorkshire!!
Snap. And I'm 55. :p :D
Got clothes anyway.
We've seen 'em. :( :( :(
No equipment insurance(Got PLI...but its only about £50.00)
It's tax deductible. Good value.
No parking costs.
OK, I'll concede that one.
Minimal Fuel costs(built up enough business in 10 mile radius)
It's tax deductible. Sadly not such good value nowadays.

No Office.
It's tax deductible.

All 3 computers....like all of the equipment ....paid for years ago.
Missing a trick. Lease 'em. You know what's coming.
No Phone or fax....got a mobile on a great contract...
BT Landline? Did I mention it's tax deductible?
No heat light or power....as no office...
You don't need an office. Proportion of your home expenses. Tax deductible, by the way.
Don't advertise
Accepted.
Subscription costs.....£1.00 Monthly to the MDD....GREAT VALUE.
Agreed. I
nternet costs.....virtually nothing!!



Lean,mean and hungry...and don't worry too much about overheads.....it may affect my performance!!;) ;) ;)

You know Martin, if you got an accountant, his wages would be paid for twice over in the tax you'd save. ;)

Mark Wild
19-04-2011, 05:17 PM
Peter not being funny but can you change the colour you use to highlight please mate, it really buggers you up when you use search terms trying to find relevant info, if you see what I mean :)

Excalibur
19-04-2011, 05:24 PM
Peter not being funny but can you change the colour you use to highlight please mate, it really buggers you up when you use search terms trying to find relevant info, if you see what I mean :)

Since you asked so nicely:









No. :p

Corabar Entertainment
19-04-2011, 06:05 PM
No Roadie.....fittest 52 year old in Yorkshire!!
Got clothes anyway.
No equipment insurance(Got PLI...but its only about £50.00)
No parking costs.
Minimal Fuel costs(built up enough business in 10 mile radius)
No Office.
All 3 computers....like all of the equipment ....paid for years ago.
No Phone or fax....got a mobile on a great contract...
No heat light or power....as no office...
Don't advertise
Subscription costs.....£1.00 Monthly to the MDD....GREAT VALUE.
Internet costs.....virtually nothing!!...as I said...


....you may not charge them to the business and choose instead to pay out of your own pocket (meaning out of your taxed hard earned, rather than pre-tax profit therefore lowering your tax liability), but you've got to be paying the majority of them one way or another!

hammy
19-04-2011, 06:07 PM
From what peter just wrote (and am sorry for off topic ish) can I put part of my household bills as tax deductable seen as it is my office??

Excalibur
19-04-2011, 06:12 PM
...as I said...
Two certainties in life, eh Angela?
Death and taxes. ;)

From what peter just wrote (and am sorry for off topic ish) can I put part of my household bills as tax deductable seen as it is my office??

Now bearing in mind I'm not an accountant, so I don't accept responsibility for this, but it is my understanding that you are allowed a proportion of household bills. A proportion.Not 100%. Not even close, but every little helps.

When I do my accounts, all the phone bills, electric bills, rent, and the like are submitted.

Shaun
19-04-2011, 06:15 PM
Shaun....you've missed Income Tax of course.....:eek: :eek: :eek:

Well of course! I didn't want to dilute my post in reference to running costs with tax etc. Those are a given.

deltaforce
19-04-2011, 06:42 PM
He is 40 odd with kids!



Unfortunately, that wasn't a joke. :o

right charlie your off me christmas card list 40+ indeed

ppentertainments
19-04-2011, 06:48 PM
Back to the OP, I will try and give my honest opinion as I too struggled with pricing.

I am deadly serious here but the best bit of advice I can give anyone when deciding on what to charge is to IGNORE any advice :eek:

Work out for yourself what YOU need, what YOU deserve, what YOU feel you can charge.

I went for a couple of years thinking 'I should charge extra for this', 'I wonder how much others charge for this'. Now I basically make up my own prices. Out of interest I do find out others opinions occasionaly, only to see how close to the mark I am.

It came as a shock to me the other day when I realised I now charge more for a standard wedding than the person I regarded as having the highest fees in my area. However this person charges a lot more for slideshows than me BUT offers a totally different level of service.

There are a lot of things I read in pricing threads I personally think are absurd - Charging more for a Saturday than a Friday or midweek, Charging less for a gig finishing at 11 as opposed to 12. Yet a lot of people will disagree with that.

Obviously the amount of work available for the fee you want in the area you want to work has a bearing on the fee you can charge, but not as much as you think ;) . There is less work at a good fee in certain areas but you will find these areas generally have less DJ's commanding a higher fee. (no, i don't have proof, just info gathered from various sources)

Believe me - work it out for yourself. I done this with my Race Nights as advice is not easily found and this is when I learnt to ignore others about my disco pricing.

deltaforce
19-04-2011, 07:13 PM
I take back what i said now booked for 6 hours £160 and yes the white cloth has now gone and beem replaced with a black starcloth which looks nicer

Had another surprise today a bloke who emailed me last year for a wedding said he wanted my number after quoting him, then i heard nothing he phoned today his wife had been ill so they had to delay the wedding can he still book me for june next year bonus

NKR
19-04-2011, 10:05 PM
From what peter just wrote (and am sorry for off topic ish) can I put part of my household bills as tax deductable seen as it is my office??


Two certainties in life, eh Angela?
Death and taxes. ;)


Now bearing in mind I'm not an accountant, so I don't accept responsibility for this, but it is my understanding that you are allowed a proportion of household bills. A proportion.Not 100%. Not even close, but every little helps.

When I do my accounts, all the phone bills, electric bills, rent, and the like are submitted.

Chaps. I believe this is the case so be bloody careful. If you start applying a proportion of your household bills to your business you bring a proportion of your home into the tax regime.

Example in 2005 you start to claim 10% of your electric, council tax, gas, etc, etc, what you are saying is 10% of your home is a business asset. You then sell said the property 10 years later. Technically as you have been claiming relief from tax on 10% of the property running costs it is now a partial business asset and therefore you are liable for capital gains on 10% of your property should it have appreciated.

Now best bet is to do it the way I do. £10 a week is in my accounts as home office costs. Keeps your property off the books and yes an accountant did advise me of that. Actually doing it the way I do gave a bigger annual write off (just).

Regards

marting
19-04-2011, 10:30 PM
i know a lad, who knows a lad who charges 60 quid.

is it sid ?

Marc J
20-04-2011, 09:04 AM
I believe this is the case so be bloody careful. If you start applying a proportion of your household bills to your business you bring a proportion of your home into the tax regime.

Example in 2005 you start to claim 10% of your electric, council tax, gas, etc, etc, what you are saying is 10% of your home is a business asset. You then sell said the property 10 years later. Technically as you have been claiming relief from tax on 10% of the property running costs it is now a partial business asset and therefore you are liable for capital gains on 10% of your property should it have appreciated.

I discussed this with my account in January. Claiming a portion of your home utility bills is fine, but not council tax and mortgage payments which, as you mentioned, introduces capital gains tax issues if you make a profit when you sell your home.

You (the home owner) could also rent one room to the business, that's a potential way around it, but my accountant basically said it's "more hastle than it's worth" in my case - do your own research!

Takeiteasy
20-04-2011, 01:56 PM
Sorry, but what is the point of quoting that? :confused:

Well if you work a an hourly rate jobs become quite easy to quote for don't they...

£80per hour, times X amount of hours = job total

Some people are happy with £25 PH some may want £100 PH, all am saying is this way you can never under sell yourself.

Excalibur
20-04-2011, 02:04 PM
Neil, Marc: I accept all you say, without any argument. May I just stress though, that I stipulated Rent . Were I ever in a position to buy this place, your information concerning mortgages is something to bear in mind. Thanks for that.

James
20-04-2011, 03:17 PM
A simple answer.......Charge what you think you're worth

DeckstarDeluxe
20-04-2011, 03:28 PM
Delta, I might be wrong here but I think your issues may not be price but marketing.....

ppentertainments
20-04-2011, 04:13 PM
Delta, I might be wrong here but I think your issues may not be price but marketing.....
I think that applies to 99% of people with pricing problems :)

Solitaire Events Ltd
20-04-2011, 06:19 PM
Well if you work a an hourly rate jobs become quite easy to quote for don't they...

£80per hour, times X amount of hours = job total

Some people are happy with £25 PH some may want £100 PH, all am saying is this way you can never under sell yourself.

But is that any way to run a business though, by plucking an hourly figure out of the air?

Takeiteasy
20-04-2011, 06:29 PM
But is that any way to run a business though, by plucking an hourly figure out of the air?

What ?

How someone runs a business and how much they charge for there time is slightly different if you ask me..

How much do you think your time is worth per hour ?

Solitaire Events Ltd
20-04-2011, 06:33 PM
How someone runs a business and how much they charge for there time is slightly different if you ask me..

How much do you think your time is worth per hour ?

That has precisely nothing to do with you.

I am saying that to pick an hourly rate without working out expenses etc is a pointless exercise.

Some people may be happy with £2 an hour but would soon be out of business.

Takeiteasy
20-04-2011, 06:34 PM
That has precisely nothing to do with you.

I am saying that to pick an hourly rate without working out expenses etc is a pointless exercise.

Some people may be happy with £2 an hour but would soon be out of business.

No because anyone with half a brain cell would factor that into there hourly rate

Takeiteasy
20-04-2011, 06:36 PM
Hourly rate + travel @ lets say £1.25 per mile = total and it IS that easy lol

Corabar Entertainment
20-04-2011, 06:44 PM
No because anyone with half a brain cell would factor that into there hourly rateSo how did you factor in the OP's overheads when you suggested he charges £80ph?

Solitaire Events Ltd
20-04-2011, 06:45 PM
No because anyone with half a brain cell would factor that into there hourly rate

Which you obviously didn't as you didn't mention it and just started plucking hourly figures out of the air.

Or perhaps you'll be backtracking on that as you seem to do quite a lot on here, lol. :D

Excalibur
20-04-2011, 06:46 PM
So how did you factor in the OP's overheads when you suggested he charges £80ph?

Perhaps he is illustrating the point, not with figures for the OP ( which he doesn't of course have ) but his own. A fair enough method, I'd say.

Corabar Steve
20-04-2011, 07:39 PM
I would charge 2 donkeys & a bucket of semolina.


People don't barter enough these days.

funkymook
20-04-2011, 07:49 PM
I would charge 2 donkeys & a bucket of semolina.


You'd never get that around here!

Corabar Steve
20-04-2011, 08:01 PM
A cup of semolina, 1 donkey & some catfood then.

NKR
20-04-2011, 08:07 PM
A cup of semolina, 1 donkey & some catfood then.

I now need to do some calculations to work out the value of cat food.

Original offer was 2 donkeys and a bucket of semolina.

Now we have halved the donkeys and reduced the level of semolina and introduced cat food.

Hmmm - I am not sure mathematics alone could solve this equation.

All things being equal Cat Food is worth 1 donkey and a bucket of semolina minus 1 cup of semolina. However, I suggest as it is a second offer then the overall result will be lower, which confuses matters.

What it does tell me is that donkeys are particularly cheap in your neck of the woods, unless of course a substantial discount was offered.

I will muse some more.

Corabar Entertainment
20-04-2011, 08:09 PM
There's one MAJOR factor you haven't taken in to account there Neil....


....he didn't specify how much cat food!

funkymook
20-04-2011, 08:16 PM
Someone's trying to take me for an ass!

NKR
20-04-2011, 08:17 PM
There's one MAJOR factor you haven't taken in to account there Neil....


....he didn't specify how much cat food!

You can't run a business like that. How can you expect to know where you are at when you are just asking for some! I ask you :D :D :p

Takeiteasy
20-04-2011, 08:22 PM
Ok let me put it another way.

If i was a good DJ and provided a good service I would look to charge around £80 an hour plus travel @ £0.70 per mile.

I would then offer a 5% discount if payment was made that day (you know 100% its confirmed then as there's always a small chance someone could pull out)

DeckstarDeluxe
20-04-2011, 08:23 PM
Ok let me put it another way.

If i was a good DJ and provided a good service I would look to charge around £80 an hour plus travel @ £0.70 per mile.

I would then offer a 5% discount if payment was made that day (you know 100% its confirmed then as there's always a small chance someone could pull out)

I wish I was on that amount the hours I have to put in!

Solitaire Events Ltd
20-04-2011, 08:26 PM
Ok let me put it another way.

If i was a good DJ and provided a good service I would look to charge around £80 an hour plus travel @ £0.70 per mile.

I would then offer a 5% discount if payment was made that day (you know 100% its confirmed then as there's always a small chance someone could pull out)

Do you DJ or is it just hire you do?

Takeiteasy
20-04-2011, 09:14 PM
Sound & lighting hire along with sound, lighting & staging crew... and can supply DJ's if asked to as we have 3 good friends who DJ for a number of corporate event companies around London.

We helped them in the past with some bookings and getting them ''out there'' meeting the right people.

Corabar Steve
20-04-2011, 09:15 PM
You can't run a business like that. How can you expect to know where you are at when you are just asking for some! I ask you :D :D :p
Some is approximately equivalent to 3/5 of a donkey or 1 small ass.


If i was a good DJ
I take it you're not :sj:

and provided a good service
I take it you don't :sj:

Solitaire Events Ltd
20-04-2011, 09:29 PM
Sound & lighting hire along with sound, lighting & staging crew... and can supply DJ's if asked to as we have 3 good friends who DJ for a number of corporate event companies around London.

We helped them in the past with some bookings and getting them ''out there'' meeting the right people.

So generally that's a no then.

I'll take that into account for your future posts.

Excalibur
21-04-2011, 12:13 AM
I would charge 2 donkeys & a bucket of semolina.


People don't barter enough these days.

They do round here mate. ;) I get paid in Potatoes, Beef, Turkeys, Logs, and bonfires. ;)

Marc J
21-04-2011, 01:44 PM
All this talk of donkeys is making me hungry :D

NKR
22-04-2011, 06:46 PM
Some is approximately equivalent to 3/5 of a donkey or 1 small ass.


Okay so my formula may be closer. Errr no its not.

How do you calculate 3/5 of a donkey of cat food. Anyone got a formula for that?

Maybe 3/5 of a donkey is used to make some cat food.

Let me think about this a minute.

Okay so we have 1 donkey and 3/5 of a donkey (which is some cat food).

Oh screw it how many cups os semolina in a bucket. No I can't be bothered mixing up semolina and getting buckets and cups out.

I may be able to actually work out the discount level if I know the cups to bucket ratio.

Excalibur
22-04-2011, 07:06 PM
Okay so my formula may be closer. Errr no its not.

How do you calculate 3/5 of a donkey of cat food. Anyone got a formula for that?

Maybe 3/5 of a donkey is used to make some cat food.

Let me think about this a minute.

Okay so we have 1 donkey and 3/5 of a donkey (which is some cat food).

Oh screw it how many cups os semolina in a bucket. No I can't be bothered mixing up semolina and getting buckets and cups out.

I may be able to actually work out the discount level if I know the cups to bucket ratio.
Have you perchance been in the same beer festival as me?

Corabar Steve
23-04-2011, 01:07 AM
35 large cups

DazzyD
23-04-2011, 03:10 AM
You can't possibly work out an hourly rate without factoring in your costs first. The key to success is planning and every business should have a business plan and at least a simple cashflow forecast which will help you to discover what you should be charging. There are plenty of free Excel templates available for download which will help you to do just this. I use a suite of templates which, when used together, give me all the groundwork I need to do the financial side of the job. And by comparing the forecast with the actual figures, it's dead easy to see where I'm going wrong and what tweaks I need to make to get things on track. I certainly wouldn't be plucking figures out of thin air. It's not the way I was taught and it would be setting myself up for financial failure.


I would charge 2 donkeys & a bucket of semolina.


People don't barter enough these days.

I'd be happy with one donkey, a bucket of semolina and a packet of Quavers. Or, at a push, a grab-bag of Wotsits. I wouldn't be accepting catfood, though. Well, I haven't got a cat!


They do round here mate. ;) I get paid in Potatoes, Beef, Turkeys, Logs, and bonfires. ;)

I once got paid a tip, sort of, with a bag of of meat. It was a strange venue that one I can tell you! :daft:

NKR
23-04-2011, 07:26 AM
35 large cups

Okay so where are we up to - ah yes.

Original offer was 2 donkeys and 1 bucket of semolina (or 35 cups)

Second offer was 1 donkey, 1 cup of semolina and some cat food (3/5 of a donkey)

So second offer is a discount of 2/5 of a donkey and 34 cups of semolina.

Does anyone on here by chance know the current exchange rate for Semolina against donkeys. I am unable to locate it through my usual sources of the FT or BBC comodities index.

That way we can work the whole thing back to donkeys and have a like for like comparison on the discount.

hammy
23-04-2011, 07:52 AM
Is it me or has everyone lost the plot??????

funkymook
23-04-2011, 08:18 AM
I just don't understand how people think Semolina Sid can offer them a professional service for barely more than a puddings worth!

Daryll
23-04-2011, 08:26 AM
Is it me or has everyone lost the plot??????

It appears so .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnzHtm1jhL4

Excalibur
23-04-2011, 09:22 AM
35 large cups
No mate, even I didn't have 35. :eek: ( I did have quite a few though. :beer1: )


Is it me or has everyone lost the plot??????
I've got an excuse. :beer2: :beer1:


It appears so .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnzHtm1jhL4
Ah, but do you remember the B-side of the 7" single? ;) :D

DazzyD
23-04-2011, 09:43 AM
No mate, even I didn't have 35. :eek: ( I did have quite a few though. :beer1: )


I've got an excuse. :beer2: :beer1:


Ah, but do you remember the B-side of the 7" single? ;) :D

The original release in the 60s was !Aaah-ah ,Yawa Em Ekat Ot Gnimoc Er'yeht which, if I've spelled it right, should be They're Coming To Take Me Away, Ha-Haa! backwards.

I knew that useless bit of trivia would come in handy one day!! :D

Corabar Steve
23-04-2011, 10:13 AM
Current exchange rate:

1 Donkey = 4 Buckets of Semolina = 140 Large cups of Semolina =210 Small Cups of Semolina = A Lot of Cat Food.

Excalibur
23-04-2011, 10:13 AM
The original release in the 60s was !Aaah-ah ,Yawa Em Ekat Ot Gnimoc Er'yeht which, if I've spelled it right, should be They're Coming To Take Me Away, Ha-Haa! backwards.

I knew that useless bit of trivia would come in handy one day!! :D

Aren't we sad. :( :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

Daryll
23-04-2011, 10:18 AM
Ah, but do you remember the B-side of the 7" single? ;) :D

The same song played backward :D

Daryll

DazzyD
23-04-2011, 10:27 AM
Aren't we sad. :( :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

No. Just great mines of knowledge that most people couldn't give two hoots (man, there's a a moose loose aboot this hoose!) about!

Corabar Steve
23-04-2011, 10:28 AM
mon

DazzyD
26-04-2011, 12:39 PM
mon

I stand corrected (and can't believe I put the wrong word in)! :doh:

funkymook
26-04-2011, 12:55 PM
I stand corrected (and can't believe I put the wrong word in)! :doh:

Mon Dieu! - what were you thinking man?