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Corabar Steve
22-04-2011, 10:30 AM
If a twin Karaoke player has 2 video outputs, how do you connect it to the monitor?

For example a couple of players I've seen for sale lately have 2 RCA video outs (one for each deck obviously).

Just curious, as we don't do karaoke as a standard service & if we do it we hire in (the folks we hire from only do single players so the thought has never occured to me before)

Corabar Steve
22-04-2011, 10:34 AM
Might being thick here but whats the issue?

My one I use a scart from player to the monitor and then s-video out to go into the pubs installed tv's.
See edit.

I don't see how 2 RCA outs can go to a scart & if they can, what stops the graphics of the paused (cued up) track (the title screen) appearing over / through the lyrics of the track that's playing?

DeckstarDeluxe
22-04-2011, 10:39 AM
See edit.

I don't see how 2 RCA outs can go to a scart & if they can, what stops the graphics of the paused (cued up) track (the title screen) appearing over / through the lyrics of the track that's playing?

Sounds rather odd and one I've not come across myself? I don't get the one for each deck bit either as you will only ever be playing one track at a time?

Don't happen to know the player in question, googling it might make it clear?

Vectis
22-04-2011, 10:46 AM
If a twin Karaoke player has 2 video outputs,

Via a video mixer, or a combined A/V mixer.

Eg. Denon DNX-600, Numark AVM02 etc.

Jason
22-04-2011, 10:48 AM
Steve, you'll need a video mixer, or at lower cost, a video switch.
The timing for each video signal will be different, and you can't simply join them together.

Soundwise, you'll go though a mixer.

So - you can connect RCA (composite video) to a scart (simple adapter from Tesco etc), but can't connect 2 video signals into one.

Jas

Corabar Steve
22-04-2011, 10:50 AM
Sounds rather odd and one I've not come across myself? I don't get the one for each deck bit either as you will only ever be playing one track at a time?
You only play one CD / MP3 at a time, but there's still an output for each deck on twin CD players or Media controllers. Just can't fathom it, when we've used the single player, when it's paused waiting for the singer to come up, the title of the song usually displays. If you're using a twin player, won't it try & display the title of the cued up deck while the playing deck is displaying lyrics?

Don't happen to know the player in question, googling it might make it clear?Numark CDN25+G is the one that prompted my question

Corabar Steve
22-04-2011, 10:52 AM
Ah, all is clear.








I think



A video switch? Care to enlighten me?

funkymook
22-04-2011, 11:07 AM
I thought it was going to be a thread about having a few hits in the 80's and then nothing since!

chrisj
22-04-2011, 11:13 AM
Hiya Steve, I have a Numark CDN25+G and only use 1 drawer, either right or left, come to that it could be left or right, for karaoke just using 1 rca socket to my monitor. I don't do much karaoke but have it just in case someone asks for it. Interesting to know the answer is get a video mixer or switch so 2 rca's, 1 each drawer, can be used.

Corabar Steve
22-04-2011, 11:17 AM
Ideally if we do Karaoke again (hopefully not) I'd like to be able to use a twin player. As only having one deck really screws with the flow of the night.

I would assume this would do the trick? http://www.htfr.com/p/279224/soundlab_audiovideo_switch_4_way_audio__video_swit ch_box

Glenski
22-04-2011, 11:24 AM
Ideally if we do Karaoke again (hopefully not) I'd like to be able to use a twin player. As only having one deck really screws with the flow of the night.

I would assume this would do the trick? http://www.htfr.com/p/279224/soundlab_audiovideo_switch_4_way_audio__video_swit ch_box

Hello

I have a Numark CDN25+G also and have used one of these (http://www.maplin.co.uk/3-way-audio-video-selector-32114) to output both decks to one monitor system...

I'm now digital, so don't need to use the player anymore (is for sale on MDD).

You can get auto switchers, but i do not recommend thse because of signal 'bleed' confusing the switching unit !!

Thank you

Glenn

Corabar Steve
22-04-2011, 12:13 PM
It was actually your for sale thread that prompted my curiosity Glenn. I just couldn't figure out how it could work. All is clear now.

DazzyD
23-04-2011, 03:25 AM
That would work, Steve.

I use an enhanced scart selector switch which has several different input and output types. Inputs can be scart, RCA, S-Video or VGA and it can output to scart, RCA or S-Video. It has automatic switching which can be over-ridden and switched manually. This gets round the problem of two signals fighting over the automatic selection, a problem which you mentioned earlier. I think I bought it for about £25 from Argos about 6 years and still use it today. At the time it's use was to take an s-video output from the laptop and play it through a tv monitor which it coped with quite well. It meant I could combine karaoke from my stand-alone CD+G player with graphics, animations and video from the laptop and output them to the same source.

I've done a quick search but can't seem to find reference to it online. I'm not at home so I don't have the model number to hand.