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SPDJ
16-05-2011, 10:37 AM
Hi Guys,

I have been putting alot of thought into how to handle telephone conversations to potential clients and meetings. My conversion to business once it gets to the stage of a pre event meeting is almost 100% (the reason its not bang on 100% is because once after a meeting a second customer came through for the same date and just paid the booking fee upfront with no need for a meeting).

My weakest link in the stage by stage chain in getting the business lies somewhere between when the initial quote has been submitted online and when I am on the phone to the customer.

Sometimes I have called the client back (just minutes after they submit the quote or the next day if they did it at night) and they have already arranged it with someone else, possibly because they contacted them long before they contacted me, though this is usually rare.

The biggest drop point for me is usually when the customer says they will arrange with the venue for a meeting date and then do not get back to me. I then send one reminder email a week later and then give up.

This indicates to me that the phone conversation wasn't convincing enough for the customer to give their time to see me.

I must admit, I can not stand the phone conversation bit, and selling myself on the spot over the phone. I much perfer doing this in person. I feel somewhat constricted in a sense because I can not go into to much detail about say, technology because the customer may not understand, or music/mixing/reading the crowd/performance because the customer may not understand, or the reasons for my pricing in comparison to much cheaper DJ's because the intricate details of which, the customer may not understand.

Yet I am faced with the job of explaining how I am unique and give 1 - 3 reasons to put the customer in the position of wanting to arrange a meeting.

Also selling myself over the phone reminds me too much of the banking/call center jobs I used to do before going self employed and I coudnt stand those either :daft:

So how does everyone else on here overcome these issues? Do you have a set structure which has proven to be successful (in which case please share :D )? Or do you let the customer do most of the talking? Or do you push for the meeting stage early on in the call to get it out of the way without giving any or many reasons to?

As I say Once it gets to the meeting stage I am pretty well in the clear as I am alot more confident at it then on the phone.

Thank you in advance.

funkymook
16-05-2011, 11:55 AM
You're always going to get a percentage of people who don't get back to you even if you are offering a great service at a good price (this is from my own experiences of doing telephone sales/enquiries for a major airline for quite a few years).

As your face to face meetings are successful we can safely say your clients are happy with how you present your services. Most have probably decided to book you before the meeting anyway - not many people would waste their own time meeting with someone they had no intention of booking.

From your post I'd say you aren't comfortable with anything that resembles a 'hard sell' and much prefer getting to know your clients, showing an interest and getting across your enthusiasm for their event (going back to my airline days, the number of calls I took was lower than a lot of other peoples, but my conversion rate was far higher because I took time with each person - my add on sales like car hire and hotels were also much higher than average).

So when you're on the phone forget about trying to sell - concentrate on matching what you can offer with what the client needs.

You're an expert on your own product, no one knows it better than you, you have all the answers so you can totally relax when talking about it.

Keep the conversation friendly and let your enthusiasm and personality come through - something along the lines of

'....apart from top quality sound and lighting equipment I also offer many years of experience and my enthusiasm to make sure your party/wedding is exactly how you want it. So tell me how you see your perfect party/wedding function going......'

gets them telling you what they want which you can then easily confirm you can provide and add to/make suggestions - you've started planning their event with them already!

Of course this approach doesn't work with everyone, and you may put in lots of effort and still not get the booking (but that's going to happen sometimes whatever you do) but I've found the types of clients who do respond are the type of clients I really enjoy working with.

yourdj
16-05-2011, 02:02 PM
So how does everyone else on here overcome these issues?

Just deal in emails and offer to call them back armed with a complete knowledge of their gig.
Or tell them to email me instead of wasting time calling you :D

You - "do you want a dj that can mix"
The client - "no, what is mixing I already have a cake thanks"
You - "OK then email Toby" :D


YouTube - Ideas on How To Handle DJ Phone Sales

Shakermaker Promotions
16-05-2011, 02:13 PM
You cheeky sod Toby! ;)

I am pretty confident on the phone myself and I give as much information as I can but I don't drown them with so much information that they can't get a word in. One of the first things I ask them is for an email address and tell them that everything I say will be put into an email for them.

It sounds like the OP (as Funky says) is a bit damaged maybe from past experiences using the phone in previous jobs? I did some temporary work a few years ago doing cold calling for a drinks firm. I was given a phone book and told to call companies. It damaged me in that I lost confidence. I was trying to do my best and getting the phone slammed down or people were generally rude....I did notice the further north you went, the nicer the people were!

I think the phone thing is very important. It could be your only chance of getting the booking so it's worth putting in as much effort and giving the caller as much information as you can.

yourdj
16-05-2011, 02:33 PM
You cheeky sod Toby! ;)


I inadvertently dissed myself. I did deserve it. :p

I would say however Sunny your price may have allot to do with a high failure rate for joe shmo shopping about for a "cheap DJ mate".
You can get a decent DJ in Southampton for £200.
Especially on DJEP as they have to go through the whole process of filling in a form.

god knows what my booking to enquiry rate is? 5% uptake perhaps not even that.
If I had to answer calls all day that lead to knowhere I would go mad. :)

I may actually pack out the diary perhaps? But I am happy as I am tbh.

James
16-05-2011, 05:37 PM
Most phone enquiries i get tend to be "How much is..."

9/10 i don't convert phone enquiries

9/10 with email enquiries i convert

Ecstatic Events
16-05-2011, 05:58 PM
I personally think it would be about establishing rapport with the potential client during the phone call. That would be all the selling needed IMO. People buy people, fact.

No selling skills required :)

DJWilson
16-05-2011, 07:19 PM
My conversion on the phone has increased this year, compared to this time last year.

May have something to do with learning a few things with my other job :/

Takeiteasy
16-05-2011, 10:56 PM
I always try and meet my customers... 90% of the time if i can meet them we're get the job.

sandysounds
17-05-2011, 12:56 AM
This may help with how not to do it....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNJI0y_fRys&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

yourdj
17-05-2011, 07:39 AM
People buy people

What a corporate cliche :p That one is OK and very true.
My whole approach too Djing is based on that philosophy.

(Apart from the fact I do not answer my phone :D)

It really annoys me when english people say "I want to touch base" :Censored:
No idea why but it does ;)

The closest most people have got in the UK to playing baseball is a game of rounders I would imagine.
I assume "catch up" derives from Cricket or something similar like racing.

SPDJ
17-05-2011, 04:49 PM
I think Funkymook has hit the nail on the head. I do not like anything that resembles a hard sale at all.

May be I should see it as less of a 'sales' type conversation and get to understand what the customer wants. Then after 'sponging up' the information I should, after saying how I can meet/exceel thier specific requirements take it to the next level and arrange to meet?

On the other hand, I have noticed that alot of customer arn't that vocal about what they want, some don't know anything about music (recently i had a call where the potential client didn't even know what Motown was!!!!), some just want to skip straight to price.

It is easy for me to justify or explain my prices to say, another DJ or a business person, I usually find it harder to explain to customers

I charge £400 for a wedding. As much as I know I am worth it, and as much as I can explain in equipment and music and terms to another DJ or businessman that I am worth it, I find it hard explaining to jimbobjeff over the phone who isn't very well educated in either :confused: