Do you personally have a problem?

[Corabar Entertainment]

It often comes up on here about Gary Glitter tracks being persona non grata at discos because of the offence it may cause.

Personally, I can separate the music from the artist, so I wouldn't have a problem if someone played it somewhere when I was out, so I was just wondering how many of you would take offence if it were played somewhere that you were (ie I'm not talking about YOU playing it at one of your events, but the track being played somewhere where you were a punter / guest)

[Cowlinn]

I wouldn't have a problem with the music, but I don't like the idea of him earning any royalties etc from songs being played/bought.

[Penfold42]

No problem here.

[DJ Paulie]

Thing is this topic has been done a few times and the general consensus is that some will play it, others won't. Same as some will use minimal set up and others put the whole nightclub in !

I don't have a problem with playing his stuff, but don't usually play a specific song, one is on a mix I use and most people don't even notice !

[Corabar Entertainment]

Actually, I don't think this has been done at all. Yes, we've discussed who will / won't play, but as I said in the OP, this thread has NOTHING to do with that.

I'm asking you all as people not DJs.

[funkymook]

I'm a 'not sure'.

I think my reaction would be a quick intake of breathe and a look around to see if there were any reactions from the audience, more in a 'are you going to get away with this?' manner than a 'how dare you play this'.

[chrisj]

No problem here as far as I am concerned asI have played his tracks since he first released them.

I do ask clients before playing any tracks if requested by a guest though, as I do not wish to annoy my customers.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

<groan>


Don't people read? :lol:

[hammy]

You know what, Im not sure I have actually heard any of his since it all came about, But to answer the op`s question I have no idea what I`d do or say

[Javlingames]

I used to play rock and roll pt 1 & 2 when i do the butlins 70's weekends but everytime atleast 1 person would complain to me so i stopped. Ive worked with the Glitterband a few times and they do 3 or 4 gary glitter tunes and they are very well received. It appears people will accept the glitter band performing the songs but not gary glitter doing them.

Personally i dont have a problem with hearing his songs, i actually quite like a few of them.

[James]

I wouldnt have a problem with it, but i would think why is this idiot playing glitter

[Excalibur]

Actually, I don't think this has been done at all. Yes, we've discussed who will / won't play, but as I said in the OP, this thread has NOTHING to do with that.

I'm asking you all as people not DJs.

People? People? Hmmmmmm. I don't know if I can think like a person. :confused:



Right, well this is easy, isn't it? If someone else is playing it, no problem. If the gig ain't got my name on it, as long as they're not playing tracks with obscene language, I couldn't care less. If that sounds awfully like washing my hands of it, well so be it.

[DeckstarDeluxe]

As Peter says, it would flag up in my mind "Oh why is he playing this" but..... if I wasn't a DJ then who knows?

[DJ Paulie]

About the only one I like is the KLF one !

[deltic]

About the only one I like is the KLF one !

did you read the original post?

[Excalibur]

As Peter says, it would flag up in my mind "Oh why is he playing this" but..... if I wasn't a DJ then who knows?
I can not take the credit, Neil. It was in fact James who said that. ;)

[Mark Wild]

I'd wonder why they were playing his music tbh, there's plenty of music out there to be playing, without that being the music of a man who pleaded guilty to having 4000 hardcore images of young boys & girls. The images were described as "filthy and revolting" and of the "worst possible type" by the judge in court.

Just to shine some light on the seriousness of this -

"very young children, some appeared as young as two, in the main ranging from three, four, five and six up to possibly about nine or 10".

An initial examination of the computer revealed that it stored "the most appalling images" of very young children engaged in most humiliating sexual acts, said the QC.

[Megamix]

I'm thinking of playing Joan Jett's version 'Do You Wanna Touch Me? (Oh Yeah)"' - is that a way round it - HP used it in 2008 advert but eventually pulled it

[Mark Wild]

I'm thinking of playing Joan Jett's version 'Do You Wanna Touch Me? (Oh Yeah)"' - is that a way round it - HP used it in 2008 but pulled it

:confused:

[sweetie]

I would think why do they need to resort to this when th dated stuff when there is so much good music out there - it would lower my opinion of the dj

What about the Who (Pete Townsend) or Michael Jackson. Where do you draw the line?

[marting]

I have thought about this and must admit not decided if dont play gg then surly i shouldn't play mj or phil spector etc where does it end.

should have read last post before posting opps

[hammy]

I have thought about this and must admit not decided if dont play gg then surly i shouldn't play mj or phil spector etc where does it end.

should have read last post before posting opps

I think the op means if you were a guest at an event not as a dj

[Corabar Entertainment]

I think I'm just going to give up trying to post altogether.

Nobody reads anything I post anyhow.

:bang:

[DeckstarDeluxe]

I think I'm just going to give up trying to post altogether.

Nobody reads anything I post anyhow.

:bang:

Erh, its nearly 6pm love :daft:

[Mark Wild]

I think I'm just going to give up trying to post altogether.

Nobody reads anything I post anyhow.

:bang:

Did I misunderstand?

[Corabar Entertainment]

No, not you Mark.... just amazed at the number of posters going on about what they'd play, as opposed to whether or not they would be offended if someone else played it - which is what was asked.

TBH, it's not just this thread. It seems it's becoming a rarity for people to actually bother to read what others are posting / asking these days, and it gets very frustrating some times.

I only hope that some people take more notice of what their customers say / write to them! :eek: :eek: :eek:

[DeckstarDeluxe]

Being serious Angela I had a thread a couple of weeks ago and it was pretty clear people didn't read what I was asking. Think people are just skim reading OP's and posting.

[Mark Wild]

Seems I'm the only one that would have a problem with someone else blasting out this beasts music. Strange.

[Corabar Entertainment]

Being serious Angela I had a thread a couple of weeks ago and it was pretty clear people didn't read what I was asking. Think people are just skim reading OP's and posting.:agree:

It's happening more and more, and it it continues, it will seriously diminish the usefulness of this forum.


Seems I'm the only one that would have a problem with someone else blasting out this beasts music. Strange.As I said in my OP, I can separate the music from the person. Long before it all came out, I actually saw GG live on numerous occasions and really enjoyed the shows, and I always found a lot of his music fun.

He is clearly a monster (and I don't think anyone would disagree with that), but I don't find the music offensive.

[Mark Wild]

As I said in my OP, I can separate the music from the person. Long before it all came out, I actually saw GG live on numerous occasions and really enjoyed the shows, and I always found a lot of his music fun.

He is clearly a monster (and I don't think anyone would disagree with that), but I don't find the music offensive.

That's fair enough, but personally, when I hear his stuff I relate it back to him and the fact he's a nonce.

[Corabar Entertainment]

Which is fair enough, too ;)

That's exactly what this thread was about.... whether or not many people do :D

[marting]

To answer the question now i have read the post properly. sorry :(

Ig i was at a function and the dj played GG i would probably have a few thoughts along the lines that have already been posted, but if Mj was played wouldn't think twice about it.

[BeerFunk]

I wouldnt have a problem with it, but i would think why is this idiot playing glitterAbsolutely.

I personally would not be offended, but I have to admit it would instantly lower my opinion of the DJ. OK, you could argue that it might have been a request, but even then, it is the DJ's decision to play it, and the DJ's responsibility if there is a negative reaction. And when I say negative reaction, it has the small potential to cause a real scene if people object vocally, or even physically.

I mentioned this the last time we discussed GG, but I will repeat it anyway - how many of his tunes were really that good anyway? If he hadn't have did what he did, how many would you play anyway? I'd say one or two, but I don't think any would be must-play songs at a mobile disco.


What about the Who (Pete Townsend) or Michael Jackson. Where do you draw the line?You could possibly draw the line at people who have actually been convicted of something?

[Excalibur]

As I said in my OP, I can separate the music from the person. He is clearly a monster (and I don't think anyone would disagree with that), but I don't find the music offensive.

Oooh Angela, that's the tricky bit. I've read back on some of the related threads on this topic, and by jove but the water's muddy. :confused:

You and Steve both seem to have a knack/policy of separating the music from the person. I'd guess that most of the general public don't, which then leads me on to my next point.

In another thread, I ventured the opinion that whether or not I would play a song would depend mainly on how much media coverage and publicity the person concerned had received. If it's front page news, the public would tend to shun it. If only I know, then only I am affected.

It maybe a poor method of applying morals and censorship, but it's the best one I've got.

[Digital Jack]

It strikes me that using the initials (GG) indicates uncertainty in your postings , I thought text speak was frowned on here ?

If no one's got any objection I'll break out my Jonathan King collection..

As for Michael Jackson , well , he was never shown to be guilty was he.
Too many people with too many standards.

[Excalibur]

It strikes me that using the initials (GG) indicates uncertainty in your postings , I thought txt spk was frowned on here ?

If no one's got any objection I'll break out my Jonathan King collection..

As for Michael Jackson , well , he was never shown to be guilty was he.
Too many people with too many standards.

Jack, I'd say it's widely accepted that GG is an acronym, not text speak. Thus it would be allowed. It is a discussion which has raged here more than once, and doubtless will do again.

[Corabar Entertainment]

Jack, I'd say it's widely accepted that GG is an acronym, not text speak. Thanks Peter.... saves me having to bother replying directly. :D

[funkymook]

Oooh Angela, that's the tricky bit. I've read back on some of the related threads on this topic, and by jove but the water's muddy. :confused:

You and Steve both seem to have a knack/policy of separating the music from the person. I'd guess that most of the general public don't, which then leads me on to my next point.

In another thread, I ventured the opinion that whether or not I would play a song would depend mainly on how much media coverage and publicity the person concerned had received. If it's front page news, the public would tend to shun it. If only I know, then only I am affected.

It maybe a poor method of applying morals and censorship, but it's the best one I've got.

It's a classic question - can art (in it's broadest sense here) and the artist be separated? One that has been debated by many intellectuals over many centuries.

Does art's meaning exist only in the beholder and is therefore independent of it's creator or is it inextricably linked to the artist and his experiences and life?

Does your knowledge of the artist change your perception of their works?

Is it valid to project your own experiences onto the artwork or should you be neutral?

Does bringing your own feelings into the equation create a conflict between your interpretation and the artists meaning?

You have 3 hours to complete your essay starting......... now!

[wensleydale]

Not because of what he did.
Because of the type of music....probably.

[Corabar Steve]

You could possibly draw the line at people who have actually been convicted of something?
Yay! No more "Return of the Mac"

Bugger! No Skynyrd from "Nuthin' fancy" to "1991" inclusive. (Not that most of you would ever play anything later than a certain track off "Second helping" anyway)

It is fully possible to separate art & artist, although it seems difficult for those who have what could be described as the football hooligan mentality. (Generally speaking that is & definitely not pointing the finger at, or making accusations of anyone who has posted on this thread)



Anyway, as somebody once said

:Censored: art.... let's dance

[BeerFunk]

Yay! No more "Return of the Mac"

Bugger! No Skynyrd from "Nuthin' fancy" to "1991" inclusive. (Not that most of you would ever play anything later than a certain track off "Second helping" anyway)

It is fully possible to separate art & artist, although it seems difficult for those who have what could be described as the football hooligan mentality. (Generally speaking that is & definitely not pointing the finger at, or making accusations of anyone who has posted on this thread)



Anyway, as somebody once said

:Censored: art.... let's danceI generally agree.. I'm not sure why you quoted me though because I was making a different point altogether :confused:

Can you listen to music without picturing the artist performing the song in your head? If it transpired that the artist was committing the crimes (for which they were later convicted) around the same time they were recording the music - would that affect your enjoyment?

On a similar subject (if this is off topic please delete or split to a new thread) - what does everyone make of Chris Brown? He gave Rihanna a quite severe beating only three years ago, yet now seems to be forgiven by the general public and is a superstar again? How can young girls idolise him and sing along to his music - does that not imply that they don't think it was a serious crime committed by him?

[Corabar Steve]

I'm not sure why you quoted me

Mark Morrison & Artimus Pyle were both convicted.

[Dynamic Entertainment]

Ive not got a probem with it hearing it...however...

A friend of mine was only recently telling me about how about 10 years ago (just after the trial) he was running karaoke in a "rough" pub.

A customer decided he wanted to do a bit of Gary, and no amount of persuading could convince him otherwise...so on comes Im The Leader Of The Gang and the guy is prancing around on the stage...coupled with plenty of boo's and funny looks from the audience...at that point a hefty bloke jumps on stage, lamps the guy who hits the deck...complete with the TV.... and his beer on top...and he's lying there with 240v running through him because the trips on the fuse board had been "replaced" :eek:

So theres plenty of people out there who dont want to hear it IMO...

[Mark Wild]

It is fully possible to separate art & artist, although it seems difficult for those who have what could be described as the football hooligan mentality. (Generally speaking that is & definitely not pointing the finger at, or making accusations of anyone who has posted on this thread)



The OP asks for a personal opinion, maybe you could give yours without bashing other peoples?

[DJ Paulie]

Ive not got a probem with it hearing it...however...

A friend of mine was only recently telling me about how about 10 years ago (just after the trial) he was running karaoke in a "rough" pub.

A customer decided he wanted to do a bit of Gary, and no amount of persuading could convince him otherwise...so on comes Im The Leader Of The Gang and the guy is prancing around on the stage...coupled with plenty of boo's and funny looks from the audience...at that point a hefty bloke jumps on stage, lamps the guy who hits the deck...complete with the TV.... and his beer on top...and he's lying there with 240v running through him because the trips on the fuse board had been "replaced" :eek:

So theres plenty of people out there who dont want to hear it IMO...

So did he sing the following week ? :eek:

[Corabar Steve]

The OP asks for a personal opinion, maybe you could give yours without bashing other peoples?
If you bothered to read what I put in bold you would see that I wasn't bashing anyone's opinion.

The term I used was the best way I could sum up the mentality of the majority of people who don't seem to be able to separate art & artist. What I didn't do was state that anyone on here had that mentality, or criticise anyone else's view on the subject in hand.

I guess I mean the kind of person who targets a hate campaign a pediatrician.

Just to reiterate the point, the key bit was "definitely not pointing the finger at, or making accusations of anyone who has posted on this thread"

If you still choose to take that as a dig at your or anyone else's opinion then that's your prerogative.

One other thing, regardless of what your or anyone's opinion is I will defend 100% your / their right to have & express it. Just as I have & defend my right to have & express mine.

[Javlingames]

Have to say i agree with corabar on this.

Also When i hear the opening beats on rock and roll part 1 and 2 i have to turn it up, its an awesome track!! Just out of interest, if the instrumentals were played (no gary glitter vocals) could people still complain? Because the instrumentals would be the glitter band, who are a chart topping band in their own right.

Also as corabar steve says, no more mark morrison and artimus pyle. As stated earlier chris brown too for what he did. People who wont play gary glitter, would you play chris brown? If so please answer why?

I know a bloke who was anti gary glitter and michael jackson etc, he used to go drinking on weekends, come home and beat his wife. I think that maybe the 'football hooligan' mentality corbar steve is talking about.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Have to say i agree with corabar on this.

Also When i hear the opening beats on rock and roll part 1 and 2 i have to turn it up, its an awesome track!! Just out of interest, if the instrumentals were played (no gary glitter vocals) could people still complain? Because the instrumentals would be the glitter band, who are a chart topping band in their own right.

Also as corabar steve says, no more mark morrison and artimus pyle. As stated earlier chris brown too for what he did. People who wont play gary glitter, would you play chris brown? If so please answer why?

I know a bloke who was anti gary glitter and michael jackson etc, he used to go drinking on weekends, come home and beat his wife. I think that maybe the 'football hooligan' mentality corbar steve is talking about.

Most of this has nothing to do with the original topic though.

[Javlingames]

Most of this has nothing to do with the original topic though.

Its how the thread seems to have progressed.

[Mark Wild]

Yeah this is about Gary Glitter, the convicted pedo, who takes sexual pleasure in looking at 2 year old kids forced into humiliating sexual acts. If you can get passed that when listening to his music, that's fair enough, I can't.

[Shaun]

I wouldnt have a problem with it, but i would think why is this idiot playing glitter


:agree:

[paul1404]

I would never play A gary glitter record not would i dance or listen to one the man is convicted child rapist ! -

[Mark Wild]

Which begs the question, if you have no problem with it, why would you think the DJ is an idiot for playing it?

[Shaun]

Which begs the question, if you have no problem with it, why would you think the DJ is an idiot for playing it?

If I was a guest and it was played my thoughts on it would always be from a DJ point of view, and my personal views on playing it. It wouldn't personally offend me if it was played by another DJ, but as a DJ I'd never play it for fear it could potentially offend someone. With that in mind I'd think the DJ was an idiot for taking that chance.

[Mark Wild]

What I find strange about this whole discussion is the light hearted "doesn't bother me" attitude, like all Gary Glitter did was steal a Mars bar from his corner shop, amazing. It wasn't your kids so it's fine hey?

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

What I find strange about this whole discussion is the light hearted "doesn't bother me" attitude, like all Gary Glitter did was steal a Mars bar from his corner shop, amazing. It wasn't your kids so it's fine hey?

What would you do then Mark, walk up to the DJ and tell him that it wasn't appropriate to play the music and possibly start trouble or spoil someone else's function that you are a guest at?

[Shaun]

What I find strange about this whole discussion is the light hearted "doesn't bother me" attitude, like all Gary Glitter did was steal a Mars bar from his corner shop, amazing. It wasn't your kids so it's fine hey?

I never said it doesn't bother me. I'm just a disgusted as you. I don't play him at any of my gigs for that very reason. However, if another DJ played it I wouldn't personally be "offended" by him playing it. I'd just think he was an idiot. :)

[WWDJ]

Mark Morrison & Artimus Pyle were both convicted.

GG is the most high profile case though, so if people are into music, or read the papers or not, they know all about it, less so with the others.


Yeah this is about Gary Glitter, the convicted pedo, who takes sexual pleasure in looking at 2 year old kids forced into humiliating sexual acts. If you can get passed that when listening to his music, that's fair enough, I can't.

Nor me.


If I was a guest and it was played my thoughts on it would always be from a DJ point of view, and my personal views on playing it. It wouldn't personally offend me if it was played by another DJ, but as a DJ I'd never play it for fear it could potentially offend someone. With that in mind I'd think the DJ was an idiot for taking that chance.


What would you do then Mark, walk up to the DJ and tell him that it wasn't appropriate to play the music and possibly start trouble or spoil someone else's function that you are a guest at?


Agreed. Depending upon my state of drunkenness I might have a word in his ear quietly that I thought it was inappropriate.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

I never said it doesn't bother me. I'm just a disgusted as you. I don't play him at any of my gigs for that very reason. However, if another DJ played it I wouldn't personally be "offended" by him playing it. I'd just think he was an idiot. :)

Agreed.

[Mark Wild]

What would you do then Mark, walk up to the DJ and tell him that it wasn't appropriate to play the music and possibly start trouble or spoil someone else's function that you are a guest at?

Maybe a quick word with the DJ, I wouldn't cause a scene though for crying out loud.

[Corabar Entertainment]

What I find strange about this whole discussion is the light hearted "doesn't bother me" attitude, like all Gary Glitter did was steal a Mars bar from his corner shop, amazing. It wasn't your kids so it's fine hey?
That post seems to suggest that those who don't have a problem with his music, don't have a problem with what he did..... which couldn't be further from the truth!

[Mark Wild]

That post seems to suggest that those who don't have a problem with his music, don't have a problem with what he did..... which couldn't be further from the truth!

I'm not suggesting that at all, this is about a specific situation of which you are the OP !

[Corabar Entertainment]

This is about a specific situation of which you are the OP !I know that, Mark. :confused:

[Mark Wild]

I know that, Mark. :confused:

Meaning you should know I'm not suggesting no-one cares in general and that the discussion is music related.

[Excalibur]

What I find strange about this whole discussion is the light hearted "doesn't bother me" attitude, like all Gary Glitter did was steal a Mars bar from his corner shop, amazing. It wasn't your kids so it's fine hey?

I reckon you've missed the point here, my highly charged young friend. IUt wouldn't bother me PERSONALLY because it wasn't my finger pressing play.

Do I condone the playing of it? No.
Would I try to prevent the playing of it? Again, no. Not my gig, not my job.

The problem favced, if we go too far down this road is that we could remove The Beatles from the playlist for advocating drug use, The Doors, Pink Floyd and countless others which haven't leapt into my mind so quickly.

Sexual lawbreakers, well Jerry Lee Lewis has gone, I think Chuck Berry has a strike against him somewhere, and again there are many others.



Look Mark, if you end up forcing me to spend all my time at discos playing only Cliff Richard and Justin Bieber, I'll end up topping myself!! :eek: :eek:

[Corabar Entertainment]

Meaning you should know I'm not suggesting no-one cares in general and that the discussion is music related.Ah, I see. No, I was just saying that was how that post came across to me. :)

[Dynamic Entertainment]

Well theres 1,108 people on facebook who can sepererate art from artist. "The ganghouse" fan page categorically states that they are for the music, and against child abuse...even displaying the international blue ribbon....

[CRAZY K]

It often comes up on here about Gary Glitter tracks being persona non grata at discos because of the offence it may cause.

Personally, I can separate the music from the artist, so I wouldn't have a problem if someone played it somewhere when I was out, so I was just wondering how many of you would take offence if it were played somewhere that you were (ie I'm not talking about YOU playing it at one of your events, but the track being played somewhere where you were a punter / guest)

None at all.

Considering the allegations surrounding Michael Jackson ( although of course GG got convicted) I cant see its a problem.

Does anyone have a problem with playing Jacko --probably not;)

He just had a very expensive team of Lawyers fighting his case---as well as the odd bit of buying off the parents ( allegedly) money talks eh?

Im not knocking Jacko just stating facts here if we are talking about undesirable features of an artist or Band.

Do you still play INXS music--the main man topped himself remember:(

Although the BBC in their usual fashion have hidden that inconvenient truth on their website because they promoted the Band the other morning on Breakfast TV--draw your own conclusions.:daft:, apparently Hutchence err died:confused:.

Back to GG

As a musical artist ( not a person/ individual ) GG was top of the pile in the early 70s and those of us in the Mobile DJ market were very grateful for a lot of his music which dragged us out of the 60s into the Glam Rock area and of course brilliant Disco style music for Weddings and Parties at the time.

Playing Slade, GG, Sweet, T Rex, Bowie etc all on the same night is a happy memory. :beer1: :beer1: :beer1:

[Corabar Steve]

Do you still play INXS music--the main man topped himself remember:(
What's that got to do with this thread even if he did?

The Question asked was would you be offended if you were out & the DJ played Gary Glitter, which I assume you answered in your first sentence.

[Chris1984]

I think it would be dependant on the location and the type of function i was at.
If i was out with a load of friends at a pub or something and a glitter song was played i'm sure i would probably wonder why i'm hearing it but not really be overly offended.

BUT

If i was a a Scouting function for example and i heard it then i would be livid and step in.

I think its a time and place thing.

[BeerFunk]

None at all.

Considering the allegations surrounding Michael Jackson ( although of course GG got convicted) I cant see its a problem.

Does anyone have a problem with playing Jacko --probably not;)

He just had a very expensive team of Lawyers fighting his case---as well as the odd bit of buying off the parents ( allegedly) money talks eh?

Im not knocking Jacko just stating facts here if we are talking about undesirable features of an artist or Band.

Do you still play INXS music--the main man topped himself remember:(

Although the BBC in their usual fashion have hidden that inconvenient truth on their website because they promoted the Band the other morning on Breakfast TV--draw your own conclusions.:daft:, apparently Hutchence err died:confused:.

Back to GG

As a musical artist ( not a person/ individual ) GG was top of the pile in the early 70s and those of us in the Mobile DJ market were very grateful for a lot of his music which dragged us out of the 60s into the Glam Rock area and of course brilliant Disco style music for Weddings and Parties at the time.

Playing Slade, GG, Sweet, T Rex, Bowie etc all on the same night is a happy memory. :beer1: :beer1: :beer1:I know everyone has a right to their opinion, but that post is completely irrational and nonsensical, it's hardly even worth replying to it in a serious manner.

Rather than hiding behind a wink, why don't you elaborate on you point about Michael Jackson? Do you know about something he did, that the judges and juries didn't know?

Let's stick to facts here - the accusations against Michael Jackson were proven to be unfounded, and therefore dismissed.

Gary Glitter is a convicted paedophile who abused helpless young children. The question of this thread is: would you be offended in any way if his music was played to you? After reading more about what he did (I never did before because I hate reading about extreme cruelty), I find it hard to understand how anyone could take any enjoyment from his music without thinking about that.

[supersound]

I have been on a dance floor and a mix has been going o,be it a 70s mix or a glam rock mix and the crown and myself included have merrily been singing the lyrics and dancing.His music didnt hurt people,He did.

[CRAZY K]

I know everyone has a right to their opinion, but that post is completely irrational and nonsensical, it's hardly even worth replying to it in a serious manner.

Rather than hiding behind a wink, why don't you elaborate on you point about Michael Jackson? Do you know about something he did, that the judges and juries didn't know?

Let's stick to facts here - the accusations against Michael Jackson were proven to be unfounded, and therefore dismissed.

Gary Glitter is a convicted paedophile who abused helpless young children. The question of this thread is: would you be offended in any way if his music was played to you? After reading more about what he did (I never did before because I hate reading about extreme cruelty), I find it hard to understand how anyone could take any enjoyment from his music without thinking about that.

Did you notice the scoring on the poll?

I simply answered the question and stated what I consider some relevant facts in connection with the subject of Pop Stars and their flawed characters, in other words GG is not the only one--as we all know and added my personal take on it.

If my post is considered to be non PC it will be removed by the mods.

[BeerFunk]

Did you notice the scoring on the poll?I myself voted no, but would change it to yes now, on the basis of what I said in my last post.

In any case, the last paragraph of my post wasn't aimed at you, I should have made that clearer, sorry.


I simply answered the question and stated what I consider some relevant facts in connection with the subject of Pop Stars and their flawed characters, in other words GG is not the only one--as we all know and added my personal take on it.You're saying GG merely has a flawed character? No, you can't make a direct comparison between what he did and someone taking their own life. I shouldn't really have to point that out.

As for facts, again, Michael Jackson was proven to be innocent in every case. Those are your facts.


If my post is considered to be non PC it will be removed by the mods.That's not really the issue - as I said, you are entitled to your opinion.

[Dynamic Entertainment]

Michael jackson wasnt "proven innocent" in every case...some of the cases just dissapeared.....make of that what you will...

[Corabar Steve]

Who cares, he's dead now. It's not as if he's going to be doing anything in the forseeable....

[DazzyD]

I probably wouldn't take offence at anyone playing any song (with, perhaps, the exception of the Birdy Song :eek: ) but I can't remember the last time I saw a DJ working who wasn't me so the scenario hasn't really come up.


I have been on a dance floor and a mix has been going o,be it a 70s mix or a glam rock mix and the crown and myself included have merrily been singing the lyrics and dancing.His music didnt hurt people,He did.

I agree. A song isn't dangerous and can't hurt people. Music and person are two separate entities as far as I'm concerned.


Who cares, he's dead now. It's not as if he's going to be doing anything in the forseeable....

Correct. And dead people can't sue! Now where do we start with this one?? :D

[deltaforce]

Playing or listening to gg will not make you a peado or mean you support em any more than listening to whinehouse will make you a dope head.
i think the music is awesome do the glitter band cover all his songs could use their versions ?