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yourdj
19-08-2011, 01:55 PM
Hi has anyone got one or has any advice/pointers on buying an electronic drum kit. I would like a proper one but they are too loud and i do not have the space. :)
Cowlinn
19-08-2011, 02:17 PM
I've got an Alesis DM5 which I might be convinced to part with
Cowlinn
19-08-2011, 02:32 PM
I've got an Alesis DM5 which I might be convinced to part with
http://www.alesis.com/dm5kit
Kernow
19-08-2011, 04:06 PM
And I've got an Alesis Spitfire 60 combo-amp with foot pedals to compliment it ;)
yourdj
19-08-2011, 06:59 PM
I've got an Alesis DM5 which I might be convinced to part with
Sounds good. email me a reasonable price and I would be interested.
[email protected]
I have a few on Ebay i am looking at but would rather buy direct.
What condition is it in?
Thanks
yourdj
19-08-2011, 07:11 PM
I like the look of this one:
http://static.musicroom.com/img/c/f/SBK100.jpg
Cowlinn
19-08-2011, 07:59 PM
Sounds good. email me a reasonable price and I would be interested.
[email protected]
I have a few on Ebay i am looking at but would rather buy direct.
What condition is it in?
Thanks
Email sent :)
Eski75
22-08-2011, 08:25 PM
Depends on how serious you are about learning the instrument?
I have the same problem living in a semi-detached house but needed to practice when I was playing with bands regulary.............personally Roland have it nailed when it comes to electronic percussion but the Roland name comes with a pricetag.
I have a TD8 which is brilliant as it has mesh heads as opposed to hard rubber (meaning you get a stick response from the head......rather than the lifeless sensation you get from hitting rubber). In addition, the kit comes with more authentic rubber cymbals as opposed to further pads.
A 2nd hand one of these will set you back £700-800.
There is a "rubber pad" Roland kit called the TD6............your not getting the mesh heads, cymbals or quite the range of sounds in the drum brain but still a nifty bit of kit. Again, not cheap, a 2nd hand one will set you back £500-600 and I would if you could afford it......go for the TD8.
Yamaha do one as well that is well regarded among drummers called the DT Extreme. Similar to the TD6 and you might get one for around £550 brand new (albeit you will need to find a kickdrum pedal on top of that).
If your just starting out, don't be tempted to skimp on a decent kickdrum pedal. Most stuff by Pearl or Tama pedal wise is pretty decent and they are genuinely easier to play.
As with DJ kit I guess....the branded stuff will set you back more but retain it's value if you find drumming isn't for you and you want to sell a little way down the road. The TD8 is about 8years old now and whilst Roland have brought out subsequent models (TD12, TD20) they are very, very expensive and so the TD8 has kept it's £700-800 price tag on the 2nd hand market even after all these years.
SC Events
22-08-2011, 09:10 PM
I would like a proper one but they are too loud
...turn the sound level down then :p :D
Larry B Entertainment
23-08-2011, 10:48 AM
What budget are you looking at ? They range from around £300 to £5000 +
As with DJ kit, you get what you pay for.
If you want a good quality low end kit to knock around on then have a look at the Roland HD1. We have various Roland kits at work and the HD1 is a very nice sounding kit with the same sound quality as the top of the range models.
At the other end of the scale you can get a Roland TD20 which is the closest thing to playing a real acoustic kit there is, but it will set you back upwards of £4500 !
Matty12
23-08-2011, 02:37 PM
Hi there.:)
I play on a yamaha electronic drum kit everyday,
http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/digital-drums/detail.asp?stock=10022511205813
These are really good and yamaha are the best make to go for apart from roland which are twice as dear.;)
PS: I don't really like Alesis as the sounds are not as good, you also need to get a proper amp for the drum kit.
Larry B Entertainment
23-08-2011, 02:54 PM
These are really good and yamaha are the best make to go for apart from roland which are twice as dear.;)
They are not twice as dear, some of the top end Yamaha kits run into 4 figures. Roland have the edge on the technology to model sounds as realistic as possible. If I play on the DTX then play on the Roland HD1, there is no contest.
The HD1 is a little more expensive but by far a better product. I would recommend it as a starter kit.
http://www.play.com/Electronics/Electronics/4-/16256359/Roland-HD1-V-Drums-lite/Product.html?_%24ja=tsid:11518%7Ccat:16256359%7Cpr d:16256359
You could pay nearly that price for a decent standard beginners acoustic kit. With the Roland, you get over 5 drum kits in one unit :)
Larry B Entertainment
23-08-2011, 02:58 PM
I have a TD8 which is brilliant as it has mesh heads as opposed to hard rubber (meaning you get a stick response from the head......rather than the lifeless sensation you get from hitting rubber). In addition, the kit comes with more authentic rubber cymbals as opposed to further pads.
I borrowed one of those when they first came out. I can remember gigging with it round the pubs. In those days, to some you weren't regarded as a proper drummer unless you had a real kit. Similar thing to the vinyl vs laptop thing these days :o
funkymook
23-08-2011, 03:08 PM
I DJ'd alongside my friend once who was a session drummer - not sure what model kit he had (pretty sure it was a Roland though). Totally unrehearsed, he just jammed along with whatever I decided to play (mainly funk and sleazy rock) - some of the loops and samples he triggered were amazing, on Iggy's Lust For Life, for example, he added female Motown style backing vocals that fitted so well it could've been a proper remix.
rossken
23-08-2011, 03:10 PM
I have a Roland TD6 that I just muck about on. I'm by no means a drummer, but I have played on both Roland and Alesis kits and I have to agree with what's been said... Roland is definitely better.
I usually play mine with headphones, but when it has been used with other instruments/in a band I've just put it through a PA or a guitar amp. Ideally, you want one of the V-Drum Amps though.
yourdj
23-08-2011, 06:32 PM
Depends on how serious you are about learning the instrument?
I have the same problem living in a semi-detached house but needed to practice when I was playing with bands regulary.............personally Roland have it nailed when it comes to electronic percussion but the Roland name comes with a pricetag.
I have a TD8 which is brilliant as it has mesh heads as opposed to hard rubber (meaning you get a stick response from the head......rather than the lifeless sensation you get from hitting rubber). In addition, the kit comes with more authentic rubber cymbals as opposed to further pads.
A 2nd hand one of these will set you back £700-800.
There is a "rubber pad" Roland kit called the TD6............your not getting the mesh heads, cymbals or quite the range of sounds in the drum brain but still a nifty bit of kit. Again, not cheap, a 2nd hand one will set you back £500-600 and I would if you could afford it......go for the TD8.
Yamaha do one as well that is well regarded among drummers called the DT Extreme. Similar to the TD6 and you might get one for around £550 brand new (albeit you will need to find a kickdrum pedal on top of that).
If your just starting out, don't be tempted to skimp on a decent kickdrum pedal. Most stuff by Pearl or Tama pedal wise is pretty decent and they are genuinely easier to play.
As with DJ kit I guess....the branded stuff will set you back more but retain it's value if you find drumming isn't for you and you want to sell a little way down the road. The TD8 is about 8years old now and whilst Roland have brought out subsequent models (TD12, TD20) they are very, very expensive and so the TD8 has kept it's £700-800 price tag on the 2nd hand market even after all these years.
What budget are you looking at ? They range from around £300 to £5000 +
As with DJ kit, you get what you pay for.
If you want a good quality low end kit to knock around on then have a look at the Roland HD1. We have various Roland kits at work and the HD1 is a very nice sounding kit with the same sound quality as the top of the range models.
At the other end of the scale you can get a Roland TD20 which is the closest thing to playing a real acoustic kit there is, but it will set you back upwards of £4500 !
Hi there.:)
I play on a yamaha electronic drum kit everyday,
http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/digital-drums/detail.asp?stock=10022511205813
These are really good and yamaha are the best make to go for apart from roland which are twice as dear.;)
PS: I don't really like Alesis as the sounds are not as good, you also need to get a proper amp for the drum kit.
They are not twice as dear, some of the top end Yamaha kits run into 4 figures. Roland have the edge on the technology to model sounds as realistic as possible. If I play on the DTX then play on the Roland HD1, there is no contest.
The HD1 is a little more expensive but by far a better product. I would recommend it as a starter kit.
http://www.play.com/Electronics/Electronics/4-/16256359/Roland-HD1-V-Drums-lite/Product.html?_%24ja=tsid:11518%7Ccat:16256359%7Cpr d:16256359
You could pay nearly that price for a decent standard beginners acoustic kit. With the Roland, you get over 5 drum kits in one unit :)
I have a Roland TD6 that I just muck about on. I'm by no means a drummer, but I have played on both Roland and Alesis kits and I have to agree with what's been said... Roland is definitely better.
I usually play mine with headphones, but when it has been used with other instruments/in a band I've just put it through a PA or a guitar amp. Ideally, you want one of the V-Drum Amps though.
sorry for the delay in responding and thanks for the advice.
I have bought this in the end, which for £150 will do nicely. 2 extra symbols too.
I just want to beat the hell out of it to behonest with headphones on.
Looks like a Roland upgrade may be on the cards if I get fed up with it however.
http://www.rikkismusic.com/WebRoot/BT/Shops/BT3146/4AF9/D12F/57E6/B4FF/A944/0A0A/33E8/BAB7/alesis-dm5-drumkit-photo.jpg
Matty12
23-08-2011, 07:13 PM
sorry for the delay in responding and thanks for the advice.
I have bought this in the end, which for £150 will do nicely. 2 extra symbols too.
I just want to beat the hell out of it to behonest with headphones on.
Looks like a Roland upgrade may be on the cards if I get fed up with it however.
http://www.rikkismusic.com/WebRoot/BT/Shops/BT3146/4AF9/D12F/57E6/B4FF/A944/0A0A/33E8/BAB7/alesis-dm5-drumkit-photo.jpg
Where is tom 2?:confused:
Can you play the drums yet? (if not its not so bad)
I don't really like it!:(
Eski75
23-08-2011, 09:31 PM
I borrowed one of those when they first came out. I can remember gigging with it round the pubs. In those days, to some you weren't regarded as a proper drummer unless you had a real kit. Similar thing to the vinyl vs laptop thing these days :o
I gigged my TD8 a few times....through the desk and the bands PA it sounded like the best drums you ever heard!! Generally with real cymbals though dependant on the venue.
Your right about the stigma though........"who the wotsit are you? Depeche Mode????""
Larry B Entertainment
24-08-2011, 09:18 AM
I gigged my TD8 a few times....through the desk and the bands PA it sounded like the best drums you ever heard!! Generally with real cymbals though dependant on the venue.
Your right about the stigma though........"who the wotsit are you? Depeche Mode????""
I have met this guy. If I could play anywhere near as good as him I would be happy ;)
We have the same kit at work. Very, Very nice :)
Roland TD20 Demo, TDW 20 card & Omar Hakim - YouTube
yourdj
24-08-2011, 10:15 AM
Where is tom 2?:confused:
Can you play the drums yet? (if not its not so bad)
I don't really like it!:(
Two of these statements really do not make any sense :confused:
Cant play drums so it does not really matter what I get.
When I say really, I have been kind of tapping and using my feet etc. since the age
of 10 so in terms of rhythm and coordination its all there all i need is some practice.
Got on a set a couple of weeks ago and surprised myself.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zZRgy-5EUko/TlTO5UgK0dI/AAAAAAAADT4/NG_uinE19nQ/s320/DSC_0147.JPG
Eski75
24-08-2011, 08:01 PM
I have met this guy. If I could play anywhere near as good as him I would be happy ;)
And doesn't it just irritate that as they projecting the most incredibly complex patterns of percussion the expression on their face looks like there mind is on what their having from the Chinese that night!
yourdj
25-08-2011, 10:44 AM
And doesn't it just irritate that as they projecting the most incredibly complex patterns of percussion the expression on their face looks like there mind is on what their having from the Chinese that night!
You could say the same about mixing. Its second nature to me now :)
I would imagine a bedroom DJ saying the same as I talk to a guest about a request still mixing the next track in the other ear :p
Larry B Entertainment
25-08-2011, 10:57 AM
And doesn't it just irritate that as they projecting the most incredibly complex patterns of percussion the expression on their face looks like there mind is on what their having from the Chinese that night!
I know what you mean, they certainly make it look easier than it is.
Thomas Lang is another one I would like to slap for being so good. I dont think hes human, I think hes some sort of machine covered in skin like the Terminator and programmed to play like that lol
I have actually met him at a drum clinic years ago. I asked him how he gets so good and he just said Practice !!! If only thats all it takes :o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9bFPsVtXgY
yourdj
04-09-2011, 01:44 AM
Have a look at this:
From my inexperienced ears he could give Nico Mc brain a run for his money :)
Hallowed Be Thy Name - Iron Maiden - YouTube
I am doing pretty well and practicing about 30 mins a day but still have some way to go from this :D
I have impressed myself so far which is not a common occurrence as I am never happy with anything I do.
I will post a video soon when I am a little better than crap :D
funkymook
04-09-2011, 02:04 AM
Buddy Rich is still my favourite drummer.
Buddy Rich - 1970 - YouTube
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