View Full Version : Finally...a battery powered wireless DMX Uplighter!
Dynamic Entertainment
20-01-2012, 08:36 PM
http://www.chauvetlighting.com/freedom-par.html
About bloody time...although currently sat around the £250 mark...each :eek:
Corabar Entertainment
20-01-2012, 08:48 PM
Funnily enough, I've just this minute been looking at those too! However, I could only find prices on US sites at $299
They're also doing the bars, and I believe the bars and pars will talk to each other:-
http://www.chauvetlighting.com/freedom-strip-mini.html
chrisj
20-01-2012, 09:01 PM
Just seen them on http://www.promobile.org.uk/news.php?id=481
Now I think I will get 8 of these as I want 6 really but some may get picked up and go walkies unless I can fix them in the venues.
But I won't buy them until I can get them for max £100 and I will probab,y retire before then so maybe not, ha ha.
They certainly will do a great job at the base of marquee centre poles when we cannot get cables to them.
Alchemy
20-01-2012, 09:09 PM
Trouble is they are too easy to nick :(
Dynamic Entertainment
20-01-2012, 09:09 PM
Funnily enough, I've just this minute been looking at those too! However, I could only find prices on US sites at $299
They're also doing the bars, and I believe the bars and pars will talk to each other:-
http://www.chauvetlighting.com/freedom-strip-mini.html
DFB have them listed at £249 - http://www.soundlightuk.com/shop/products/Chauvet-Freedom-Par-Wireless-LED-Parcan.html I did notice that DJkit have them on the website but no price as yet.
Just seen them on http://www.promobile.org.uk/news.php?id=481
Now I think I will get 8 of these as I want 6 really but some may get picked up and go walkies unless I can fix them in the venues.
But I won't buy them until I can get them for max £100 and I will probab,y retire before then so maybe not, ha ha.
They certainly will do a great job at the base of marquee centre poles when we cannot get cables to them.
They will make the whole process a lot quicker, and I agree...they could go walkies very very easily....but then again...so can most things ;)
Sound To Light Services
20-01-2012, 09:14 PM
That concept has been around for a while both in the states and the far east.
We did have a look at bringing over a battery powered wireless unit from the states which has a very small footprint.
Whilst the idea is good in principle, the thing that has been causing the Americans trouble is frequency interference and also the units being stolen which we think would be the same over here.
So if your going to chain it to a post then is it really worth it?
ianforest
20-01-2012, 09:21 PM
These should hopefully be at SEDA this Sunday.
But, come on...5mm LED's? facepalm
I used some wireless led up lighters last summer for a string of marquee gigs - they were cleverly recharged by storing them back in their flightcase, which then itself plugged into a wall socket.
Great idea especially with wireless dmx but pricey and wireless dmx doesn't always work well for very very slow fades and colour transitions etc.
supersound
21-01-2012, 09:46 AM
A tidy way of securing them would to use a high quality suction pad(like a sat nav but better)and a keylock on the actuating lever.This cab be attached to the skirting board.
Solitaire Events Ltd
21-01-2012, 11:31 AM
Trouble is they are too easy to nick :(
People keep saying that. Are they any more difficult to nick than unplugging a normal par from the mains?
Why would people want to steal a par can for anyway?
Andy Collins
21-01-2012, 11:39 AM
People keep saying that. Are they any more difficult to nick than unplugging a normal par from the mains?
Why would people want to steal a par can for anyway?
That may be so, but you always get 1 numpty who thinks its funny. In any case if someone tried to nick one of mine, the rest of them would cut out as they are linked so that would draw attention.
The battery ones you could just pick up and walk out with it without anyone notising or giving a damm.
I'd rather someone nick a £30 one than a £300 one!
Solitaire Events Ltd
21-01-2012, 11:40 AM
The battery ones you could just pick up and walk out with it without anyone notising or giving a damm.
But why would you?
Andy Collins
21-01-2012, 11:50 AM
Because people can!
People are sheep, it only takes 1 to do something and others follow.
Take the riots as an extreeme example, Doctors, Solicitors, teachers, etc etc, otherwise pillars of the community - all took part. What was thier excuse "everyone else was doing it"
Why do people have punch up's at weddings? Starts with a small arguement between 2 people, before you know it everyones at it.
Mood lighting - someone discovers that they can be picked up - before you know it, everyone has one. What happens to them then?? Hopefully at £300 each they carefully put them down where they found them. Or they will be nicked or trashed.
Someone has a stupid hat or wig, everyone wants it. Same thing!!
Corabar Entertainment
21-01-2012, 11:56 AM
Why do people nick traffic cones?
Steve the DJ
21-01-2012, 11:58 AM
Why do people nick traffic cones?
Because when I am drunk I get a cold head and need a hat. :D
Mark Wild
21-01-2012, 12:00 PM
Won't be long until they start coming down in price I reckon.
But, come on...5mm LED's? facepalm
I agree !
Alchemy
21-01-2012, 12:01 PM
Because when I am drunk I get a cold head and need a hat. :D
:like:
Corabar Entertainment
21-01-2012, 12:12 PM
Because when I am drunk I get a cold head and need a hat. :D
:lol:
Solitaire Events Ltd
21-01-2012, 12:53 PM
So on the basis that people nick stuff because they can, do they nick anything that isn't locked down then?
Charlie Brown
21-01-2012, 03:04 PM
So on the basis that people nick stuff because they can, do they nick anything that isn't locked down then?
Darren, they would go walkabouts.
Little kids would pick them up, people would trip on them and release they aren't fixed down etc.
Solitaire Events Ltd
21-01-2012, 03:20 PM
Darren, they would go walkabouts.
Little kids would pick them up, people would trip on them and release they aren't fixed down etc.
And you basing this on what experience?
Charlie Brown
21-01-2012, 03:24 PM
And you basing this on what experience?
Doing it myself and watching others do it on a regular basis. A little girl pulled and took one of my colour bursts last year.
Dynamic Entertainment
21-01-2012, 03:26 PM
One of my wedding venues had 6 table decorations nicked last year....they wernt small either....4ft high shrubs with battery operated fairy lights....go figure..
Solitaire Events Ltd
21-01-2012, 03:30 PM
Doing it myself and watching others do it on a regular basis. A little girl pulled and took one of my colour bursts last year.
One little girl and one light doesn't mean that everyone is going to do it.
I've done a lot of uplighting jobs and dry hire of other gear and nothing has even been stolen at a venue.
Charlie Brown
21-01-2012, 03:33 PM
One little girl and one light doesn't mean that everyone is going to do it.
I've done a lot of uplighting jobs and dry hire of other gear and nothing has even been stolen at a venue.
Because when it's linked up with wires, physiology it's harder to move/steal/tamper with.
Solitaire Events Ltd
21-01-2012, 03:36 PM
Because when it's linked up with wires, physiology it's harder to move/steal/tamper with.
As I said, my cans are just plugged into the wall. How difficult is that to unplug and take?
Charlie Brown
21-01-2012, 03:43 PM
As I said, my cans are just plugged into the wall. How difficult is that to unplug and take?
A lot harder than a free standing unit.
You must be able to see my logic? It's all about what people can get away with.
If somebody tripped on one of your plugged in uplighters, more than likely it wouldn't go anywhere.
If some goons tripped on a free standing unit, it would move quite a bit therefore encouraging people to kick it, pick it up and shine it in each others faces or take it home for a joke.
Also, the base that holds my uplighters is quite awkward, whereas this is a all in one unit.
Get Me A DJ
21-01-2012, 03:46 PM
So on the basis that people nick stuff because they can, do they nick anything that isn't locked down then?
They do in Hull :D
Solitaire Events Ltd
21-01-2012, 03:47 PM
You must be able to see my logic?
Nope. I am basing what I am saying on actual experience.
If people are going to nick something, they will do it regardless of whether it is plugged in or not.
Charlie Brown
21-01-2012, 03:55 PM
Nope. I am basing what I am saying on actual experience.
If people are going to nick something, they will do it regardless of whether it is plugged in or not.
Okay your right I'm wrong. :)
spin mobile disco
21-01-2012, 03:57 PM
I could see people picking them up and using them around the venue on the dance floor etc when drunk. The amound of those battery powered displays on tables ive seen used the same way would make me think twice.
Mind you same goes for chair bows. Any one on here not seen a woman pick one up and tie one round their waist or as a sash then walk off with them.
jamesh
21-01-2012, 04:03 PM
Maybe the purchase of some of these to be attached to each uplighter might help then....
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funkymook
21-01-2012, 04:11 PM
Mind you same goes for chair bows. Any one on here not seen a woman pick one up and tie one round their waist or as a sash then walk off with them.
Yep - with the chair still attached!
(I think it just got caught on her dress - very funny though).
paulg
21-01-2012, 04:46 PM
I quite like the idea. Looking at theft from a different point of view, you could position these at the last minute and collect them in with ease and speed so the amount of time they are left unattended is reduced. Also, the reduction in time laying and securing cables and the reduction of associated risk is very, very attractive.
Just for static colours, I wonder how easy it would be to knock one of these? If I remember, I'll get a colleague DJ onto it - he's a genius - he made his own animated starcloth!
yourdj
21-01-2012, 05:21 PM
I would get one of these and bolt one of the £60 transmitter/receivers too it.
They are excellent.
http://www.yy-ledlight.com/UserFiles/Image/2011101816020314.jpghttp://www.mslighting.com.cn/UploadFiles/20111223222331917.jpg
Would prefer to wait a few years and they will be the size of the current wired units.
With the theft thing - Thats the reason I have never gone for LED external lighting.
its just to easy for someone to nick them. Bang £2000 down the drain.
Doubt my kind of clients would nick them indoors as they are generally quite nice.
- i would be conscious of kids running off with them.
Solitaire Events Ltd
22-01-2012, 04:38 PM
Okay your right I'm wrong. :)
Childish Charlie.
I have a different opinion that's all.
Corabar Entertainment
22-01-2012, 05:35 PM
Another similar option:-
http://www.terralec.co.uk/on_sale_-_reduced/led_par64_battery_powered/31233_p.html
http://www.terralec.co.uk/product_images/prd9b2ebfe1-eede-4ff7-aa4c-9fe13410c6ac.jpg
We were in Terralec today and saw them.. They're currently £198, plus until the end of today there's a further 30% off everything at checkout.
EDIT: However - not wireless DMX
Dynamic Entertainment
23-01-2012, 05:16 PM
Thats still OK if your after static colours all night though....although still expensive :)
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