my speaker setup

[salford1986]

Hello guys I previously brought up a topic about getting the right amp for my mcgregor mytek 210, so I went out n bought a Peavey ipr1600p...which I kno is underpowered.

I tested it out on new years eve...bout 10 oclock it started making a humming noise (I think it wad ddt protection) once I used my microphone! Got home, thought it was a lead problem so replaced it, had a gig last night and used a diferent mixer but the same amp and speakers bout 7.45 I started speaking on Mic and same buzzing noise came back! The ddt light was lit up on both channels. So I'm asuming tht wen I speak on the Mic it stresses the amp out so it goes into ddt mode.

My speakers are 650 end per channel and the amp is only 540 per channel....but its only a little difference! But I kno IL have to replace my amp...so I'm lookin at the QSC GX5 wot do you think. Just gutted the amp

just for a little more info, i used another mic and it did exactly the same, i use a desktop pc (if that helps) on new years eve wen it started buzzing once i used the mic both ddt lits came on and only one speaker actually come back on working, the other one which was working started buzzing again wen i spoke in mic at high level. when i got home the both worked fine, even in my living room, both speakers handled the microphone, must be wen i turn it past certain level. its both speakers that cut out.

[ianforest]

Is it possible for you to write in the Queens English? I've read that about 10 times and still don't fully get the issue you are having?

[Corabar Entertainment]

Yes, please do make an effort to type with correct spelling and grammar. Apart from the fact that using 'text speak' is against the forum rules, it does make it extremely difficult for your fellow forum members to help you out - and many won't spend time trying to work out what it is you are saying because it appears that you have no respect for the rest of us and cannot be bothered.

If you have problems, please use a spell checker to help you.

:thanks:

[deltic]

must agree with the posts above not easy to see what you are asking.

i think you have a problem with your levels both input and output(gain staging).

if you type gain staging into google that should give you some pointers on how to set your equipment correctly.

[Excalibur]

And here is the thread regarding the mic/DDT problem.
http://www.forum.mobilediscodirectory.co.uk/showthread.php?t=36400
I'm with Andy on this one, it's not unusual for using the mic to send the lights on the mixer climbing up towards the red.

First of all, I'd suggest that you turn the gain controls on the amp to full. This in itself can cut down on clipping problems, I know cos I've done it myself. Then set the master on your mixer so that when you speak normally on the mic, there are no red lights. See if that helps.

That's a really simplified version of what Andy suggested, do as he says and Google it, it can be really useful. Once upon a time, there was a thread on here which gave chapter and verse, but I haven't been able to find it for a while. I'll have another look shortly. The object of the exercise is to ensure that when you push volumes past the limit, every part of the system goes red simultaneously. This ensures that you have the maximum amount of volume available from your system, with the minimum amount of unwanted noise in the system.

PS. At this moment, there are a couple of heavyweight amps in the For Sale section which I'd rather use with those cabs, because they're better matched power wise. The IPR 1600 is a great amp, which I looked at, but it's just not big enough for many requirements.

[DAVESOUNDS SERVICES]

Have you checked that your laptop ( im guessing that your a laptop dj)
isnt putting out out of band high frequencies into the Peavey amp?
'IE have you got a ground loop isolator in use?
also ive had a few problems with some Behringer amps kicking out inaudible frequencies which take amps speakers to ultimate destruction!
You cant hear the frequencies you can only see them on your VU
meters on your amps and mixers.
Last possibility is you could have a dodgy or damaged IPR 1600 which really would surpise me as ive 3 ive abused for nearly 2 years with no troubles and i like them greatly. They sound very very good and weigh nothing!
failing that dont forget
THERE IS 5 YEARS WARRANTY ON THE IPR 1600 PEAVEY AMPS
Please keep us updated on this problem.

Just a second thought!
did you buy the peavey second hand or off ebay?
might be defective if so!?!

[Corabar Steve]

Have you checked that your laptop ( im guessing that your a laptop dj)


i use a desktop pc (if that helps)
Close :sj:

[DAVESOUNDS SERVICES]

They still dump noise down the Earth line
makes no difference still needs an isolation transformer.

[Excalibur]

They still dump noise down the Earth line
makes no difference still needs an isolation transformer.

Regularly referred to as a GLI, Ground Loop Isolator. If you have two separate stereo channels coming out of the PC (or Laptop, same difference ) then you need two GLI's. You should find them all over the place or less than a tenner each. A lot less if you look hard.
As I'm only a simple soul, I like to fault find wherever possible by substitution/elimination. I'n hoping you have a backup amp, Chris. What happens with that one? Does a similar fault appear? Is clipping a problem?

If you haven't got a backup, then it's imperative that you get one soon as.

[TonyB]

My best guess is that there is something wrong with the amp. You have changed the mixer and cables so can eliminate them. You say the buzzing noise isn't there to start with but happens after use for a while so I doubt if it is a ground loop problem.

Running at 4 Ohms will make the amp work harder and possibly the fault is occurring after its been running for a while and warms up. Faults very often manifest when components get warmer and expand with heat so could be a dry joint somewhere or a faulty component that goes unstable when its hot.

DDT shouldn't be causing a hum. It should act as a limiter reducing the input level when its too high and then reverting back to the normal level when the input level reduces.

I would try another amp and see if it still happens.

[salford1986]

hiya Tony, thanks for not moaning like the other to who I'am sorry for not typing properly and speaking ''english'' sorry..

Right tony, I think its the amp aswell, just got off the phone to a lad on here who owns mcgregor mytek 210 and he powers them using the numark dimension 4.

I was thinking my amp is only 540wt at 4ohm (per side) my speakers are 650wt per side at 4ohm its a difference of 110wt i cant see how it can go into clipping that easily, so like you said i think its a problem with the amplifier which i bought brand new from my local dj shop on the 27th december!

tony if you were in my shoes i have to options

1) take it back and let them repair it (most prob send it to peavey etc etc)
2) or fork out £150 and let them have the peavey amp back and get a QSC GX5? thats like 700wt per channel...

what you think

[Shaun]

hiya Tony, thanks for not moaning like the other to who I'am sorry for not typing properly and speaking ''english'' sorry..



No need for sarcasm is there? If members are having difficulty reading your posts wouldn't you want to be aware of that? especially since they're taking the time to read your post to try offer to help you out. At least make an effort to post correctly so others can at least follow your posts. That's not moaning, it's a request to help us so we can in return help you.

Please spare a moment to familiarise yourself with the forum rules (link below), in particular #23.

http://www.forum.mobilediscodirectory.co.uk/showthread.php?t=19228

[Excalibur]

hiya Tony, thanks for not moaning like the other to who I'am sorry for not typing properly and speaking ''english'' sorry..

Steady on there young man, as Shaun says, if your posts can't be understood easily, then it's very difficult to help you. Members on here are very knowledgeable, and very helpful. Annoying them for no good reason is unlikely to encourage them to help to solve your problem.


Tony if you were in my shoes I have two options

1) take it back and let them repair it (most prob send it to peavey etc etc)
2) or fork out £150 and let them have the peavey amp back and get a QSC GX5? thats like 700wt per channel...

what you think

3) Buy an amp that's actually big enough. PV2600, PVI 3000, IPR3000 are all suitable ones from Peavey. Studiomaster 3500, Yamaha P7000S, or if you want to go with QSC, I'd recommend a GX-7 as a better fit. Then you let the Peavey you have go back as a warranty claim at leisure.

And for heavens sake, borrow an amp from a mate to check before doing anything rash or expensive.

[TonyB]

tony if you were in my shoes i have to options

1) take it back and let them repair it (most prob send it to peavey etc etc)
2) or fork out £150 and let them have the peavey amp back and get a QSC GX5? thats like 700wt per channel...

what you think

As you bought it from a shop you could:

a) take it back and let them test it to see if it is faulty. Make sure you let them know that it doesn't do it from cold so they can give it a proper soak testing. Being underpowered in itself shouldn't cause the buzzing or cause it to cut out, it would just clip earlier if pushed but the DDT should just reduce the level to prevent damage.

b) (which is what I would do) pay out an extra £150 for a QSC amp :).

[salford1986]

i understand about not texting now, i just want this solving amp issue resolving.

won't a GX7 or any other be to much power for money, e.g my speakers give out 1.3kw so a gx 7 gives out 2.0kw.

http://media.qscaudio.com/pdfs/Specifications/GX_spec.pdf

look at this link scroll down til you get to choose the right GX amp for your speakers. its bottom of page one. it says for 4ohm 550-900w recomend gx5, whats your take on it?

[katman]

won't a GX7 or any other be to much power for money, e.g my speakers give out 1.3kw so a gx 7 gives out 2.0kw.


The point being that you DONT drive the amp at full output. If you do then yes you will damage your speakers but a 2kw is perfectly capable of being driven at 200w, 1kw 1.3kw in fact anything upto its maximum rating.

You have already stated that your existing amp is underpowered and running into clipping. That shouldnt happen with a larger amp and provided you show restraint in not pushing it to its limit then you wont suffer any problems.

Think of it like your car.... it is probably capable of reaching a maximum speed of around 100 or higher yet you can safely use it in a 30, 40, 50, 60 or 70 speed limit with no problems provided you keep your foot off the gas. :)

[Excalibur]

won't a GX7 or any other be to much power for money, e.g my speakers give out 1.3kw so a gx 7 gives out 2.0kw.
Short answer, no. Long answer takes a long time, and usually involves a fight. It always did when Nigel was here. :D :D :D

http://media.qscaudio.com/pdfs/Specifications/GX_spec.pdf[/url]

look at this link scroll down til you get to choose the right GX amp for your speakers. its bottom of page one. it says for 4ohm 550-900w recomend gx5, whats your take on it?

On the link you provided, it says PROGRAM. If the McGregor cabs are as I assume rated RMS, ( and it is an assumption, since I can't find a definitive answer anywhere :confused: :( :( )
then their Program rating is double RMS. Thus, 1300w :eek: :eek: Yes, I know it's confusing, and it's a nightmare, but that's the way it goes.

If the McGregor cabs are 4ohms and 650w RMS ( and I'd expect that to be a reasonable assumption, cos for a start there are two 10"drivers in each sub, I believe. ) then an amp delivering 1000 w RMS at 4 ohms would be ideal in my book.

We need to know the rating method of the cabs before we can make a considered and totally accurate announcement. Only thing set in stone is that the Peavey you have is too small. Sorry.

Edit: Here you go, a little light reading. Just ignore Nigel.
http://www.forum.mobilediscodirectory.co.uk/showthread.php?t=10463&highlight=speaker+sticky

[CRAZY K]

Hello guys I previously brought up a topic about getting the right amp for my mcgregor mytek 210, so I went out n bought a Peavey ipr1600p...which I kno is underpowered.

I tested it out on new years eve...bout 10 oclock it started making a humming noise (I think it wad ddt protection) once I used my microphone! Got home, thought it was a lead problem so replaced it, had a gig last night and used a diferent mixer but the same amp and speakers bout 7.45 I started speaking on Mic and same buzzing noise came back! The ddt light was lit up on both channels. So I'm asuming tht wen I speak on the Mic it stresses the amp out so it goes into ddt mode.

My speakers are 650 end per channel and the amp is only 540 per channel....but its only a little difference! But I kno IL have to replace my amp...so I'm lookin at the QSC GX5 wot do you think. Just gutted the amp

just for a little more info, i used another mic and it did exactly the same, i use a desktop pc (if that helps) on new years eve wen it started buzzing once i used the mic both ddt lits came on and only one speaker actually come back on working, the other one which was working started buzzing again wen i spoke in mic at high level. when i got home the both worked fine, even in my living room, both speakers handled the microphone, must be wen i turn it past certain level. its both speakers that cut out.

All very strange--I own several Peavey set ups and never been able to
get any problems like this even abusing the hell out of both Amps and Speakers over the years, cant manage it:D :D :D :D I would disregard underpowering personally--the opposite certainly could cause distortion by overdriving speakers.

Dave will know if the new Peavey amps have cut outs to prevent abuse:confused:

It is possibly an amp fault BUT can you run the Peavey IPR through a different set of equipment and see what happens OR use a different amp.

Are you sure both your mikes are 100 per cent--recently TWO of my Hard drives stopped functioning properly. Are the mikes matched to your new set up?

If bought from a dealer its Sale of Goods Act so demand your money back as unfit for purpose if its a relatively new purchase or get it swopped for another one.

If the dealer has a big shop take your kit there and give it a good blasting in the shop and see what happens.

Pity you dont live near Peter or myself--wouldnt take long to sort it.

BTW Steves joke has made my day ---Laptop or PC--:Laugh: :Laugh: :Laugh: :Laugh: :Laugh: :Laugh: :Laugh: :Laugh: :Laugh: :Laugh: :Laugh:

[Kernow]

Are you sure both your mikes are 100 per cent--recently TWO of my Hard drives stopped functioning properly. Are the mikes matched to your new set up?

Or are the mic cables up to the job ?
Although more apparent in instrument leads, due to their length, poor quality ones are very susceptible to signal and inductance interference.

:confused:

[salford1986]

on friday night i did a gig, (after trying it out in my garage with my mic 1 2 check and everything) i gave it a 1 hour blast and it cut out once using the mic. but i took it to the event knowing i can use the function room speakers for the mic so i didnt have to use the mic on my system (if that makes sence). i used there speakers and amp (built in) to use my mic so all i will be using my system for is the music, about 10:15 i played abit of little richard and it cut out half way through the song, there was no mic plugged in.....

even if i am clippin the amp, it shouldnt cut out whilst making a fierce buzzing noise should it?

my mics are nothing spectaculer they are only prosound wireless mics, but like i said it made the buzzing sound with the mics plugged into another sound system and not my amp and speakers

[funkymook]

on friday night i did a gig, (after trying it out in my garage with my mic 1 2 check and everything) i gave it a 1 hour blast and it cut out once using the mic. but i took it to the event knowing i can use the function room speakers for the mic so i didnt have to use the mic on my system (if that makes sence). i used there speakers and amp (built in) to use my mic so all i will be using my system for is the music, about 10:15 i played abit of little richard and it cut out half way through the song, there was no mic plugged in.....

even if i am clippin the amp, it shouldnt cut out whilst making a fierce buzzing noise should it?

my mics are nothing spectaculer they are only prosound wireless mics, but like i said it made the buzzing sound with the mics plugged into another sound system and not my amp and speakers

I think you're really pushing your luck continuing to gig with an amp you suspect is faulty, it's just not professional. What would you have done if it had totally failed at the beginning of the gig?

You need to buy or borrow another working amp while you get this one fixed.

[Excalibur]

You need to buy or borrow another working amp while you get this one fixed.

I refer the honourable member to posts #5,#9 and #13, among others. ;) :D :D

[Kernow]

What mixer are you using ?:)

[funkymook]

I refer the honourable member to posts #5,#9 and #13, among others. ;) :D :D

They hadn't escaped my notice!

[salford1986]

i take my father in laws gear to gigs just in case, i really thought it was the mic, because it only made the strange noise when the mic was in use, so it was new to me that it made the noise with just the music on.

You have to give it a go to find out the problem, obviously i make sure i have a back up system if it fails at the begining of a gig. That would just be plain idioticness if i didnt.

Its not the mixer thats faulty, i have used two mixers now one is my american audio mixer (new years eve gig) and the other that used on friday night is a kam mixer.

[funkymook]

i take my father in laws gear to gigs just in case, i really thought it was the mic, because it only made the strange noise when the mic was in use, so it was new to me that it made the noise with just the music on.

You have to give it a go to find out the problem, obviously i make sure i have a back up system if it fails at the begining of a gig. That would just be plain idioticness if i didnt.

Its not the mixer thats faulty, i have used two mixers now one is my american audio mixer (new years eve gig) and the other that used on friday night is a kam mixer.

Thank God you have a back-up, but to be honest this is when your back-up becomes your main system, you don't try to fault find at a gig if you have a viable alternative.

[Excalibur]

Thank God you have a back-up, but to be honest this is when your back-up becomes your main system, you don't try to fault find at a gig if you have a viable alternative.

To be fair, it can often be really tricky to recreate faults that occur only after a few hours of working the gear fairly hard. The neighbours often don't appreciate your endeavours. ;)

Another point possibly worth considering is to try cabled mics, and see if that helps. Substitution and elimination, it's a good way of working.

[funkymook]

To be fair, it can often be really tricky to recreate faults that occur only after a few hours of working the gear fairly hard. The neighbours often don't appreciate your endeavours. ;)

Another point possibly worth considering is to try cabled mics, and see if that helps. Substitution and elimination, it's a good way of working.

Fair enough - but personally given the option of using a system that's failed on me or one that hasn't I know what I'd use at a gig.

[Excalibur]

Fair enough - but personally given the option of using a system that's failed on me or one that hasn't I know what I'd use at a gig.

Again, quite logical, but if the backup rig may only be considered big enough for emergency use, rather than frontline service, then again, that's a hindrance.

Devil's advocate mode off altogether, Martin you're absolutely right, and I think I'd have acquired another seriously big amp by now simply for peace of miind.

[salford1986]

Another point possibly worth considering is to try cabled mics, and see if that helps. Substitution and elimination, it's a good way of working.

i have done a gig and not even plugged any microphones in, just used the function rooms suround speakers. not realising that once my speakers (that were just playing music) and amp heated up about 10:15pm it would fail on me, that was completly new to me knowing that i havent got a microphone plugged in and it still did it.

what i have done so far for elimination.

1) i have tried 2 different mics wired and wireless
2) i have used to different mixers
3) it failed just playing music with no mic conected
4) no warning to say its clipping from the DDT (no flickering of the DDT light), the fierce buzzing noise just kicks with the orange DDT light lit on constant.
5) both speakers cut out at the same time. so cant pin point problem to one faulty speaker.

I dont know what else to try other than get the Experts to test it out at the shop and inform them it only does this when the amp is warmed up and been playing music for a good few hours.

[Excalibur]

I dont know what else to try other than get the Experts to test it out at the shop and inform them it only does this when the amp is warmed up and been playing music for a good few hours.

In which case, I'd say the only thing you haven't tried, and the next logical step is to try another amp, even if you have to borrow one from a mate. Good luck, keep us posted.

[salford1986]

:D
Good luck, keep us posted.

i will do, im taking it tomorrow, like i said it should at least inform me that its going to cut, even a slight flicker of the DDT light to come on, it just crashes without warning, iv read other forums about the IPR and thats what they do, they flicker to let you know your pushing your luck, back off the volume :D lol

[salford1986]

hellllo guys

right!!

Bit of a update for you, took it to the shop today told him my problem wired it up to some EV 400watt speakers, working perfect, ddt light lighting up when like it is suposed when its too loud so turned it up abit more and the ddt light was constantly on, still sound (very loud)....absulutly baffled me (never did that).

i said i use mcgregor mytek 210, luckly he had some, alot more base! i found than the EV 400 watt speaker but then the myteks are 650watts a side.

Again with the mytek, we pump up the volume, ddt lights flicker (which never happendend to me!!) he turns it up more, ddt light on constanly again like the EV speakers. We left it running for a good 30 mins and it was fine, last night on the other hand i used it with mine and it started buzzing with the ddt lights on, but previously it did not warn me of DDT by flickering.

He claimed it to be the Amp because he gave me a refund and said he cant see it being the speakers because when it makes the buzzing noise both DDT lights come on and both speakers make the sound.

I just wish it did what it has been doing with me!! it took me 1 hour and half to get there!! i said to him could it be im using phono leads going from my mixer to xlr on my amp, i know XLR to Xlr is better but he said i cant see that been the fault.

He did offer me a swap, what do you think of this haha, he said i can swap the peavey amp for W-audio 1300 watt amp, to me i said no as soon as i heard what it was doing the the myteks, it sounded awful!!, he even said to me the peavey sounded better so i just said give us me money!! lol

Im just going to have to get another amp and try it out if it does it again i know its my speakers in some way

[Excalibur]

I'm confused. :daft: From what I read, the amp ran fine in the shop on two different pairs of cabs, yet the shop said it was faulty. :confused: Perhaps it would have been wise to have taken your cabs with you, so you could have seen if the fault then appeared with them. I wouldn't bet against something being faulty in them, but I have no experience of them.

[salford1986]

i know i wanted to take me cabs but had to train it today, i asked the guy at the shop can i bring the cabs in soon to try them some time to see if it is them. he said its fine so thats what im gonna do before i spend money on amps :)

[Kernow]

I'm confused. :daft: From what I read, the amp ran fine in the shop on two different pairs of cabs, yet the shop said it was faulty. :confused: Perhaps it would have been wise to have taken your cabs with you, so you could have seen if the fault then appeared with them. I wouldn't bet against something being faulty in them, but I have no experience of them.


In which case, I'd say the only thing you haven't tried, and the next logical step is to try another amp, even if you have to borrow one from a mate. Good luck, keep us posted.
Not necessarily the only thing untried ?
Something else may well have been missing from the setup in the shop ;)


i use a desktop pc (if that helps)

? ;)

[salford1986]

you know something i thought you was onto to something there....my desktop pc...

But then i thought, i used my desktop pc new years eve, friday night, and the speakers buzzed, but last night i used my laptop for convienience and it even did it with that, i have been using that laptop on many types of speakers and amp.

[NKR]

I am intrigued by this thread. I have no idea what's going on, but I am intrigued all the same.
Its like when you start to watch a film, but lose the thread after 10 minutes, but still watch it for 2 hours anyway.
I can't wait for the next installment.

[salford1986]

Do you guys think this would have anyhting to do with clipping, or not helping the fact.

I use my headphone socket out of my desktop/laptop for the lead that goes to the mixer, i know i should get a external because am i right in saying its sends more than it needs to the mixer? or something like that.

What would you recomend me buying ovbiously you get what you pay for but your intake would be apprieciated.

what about the numark stereo io external.

[NKR]

Do you guys think this would have anyhting to do with clipping, or not helping the fact.

I use my headphone socket out of my desktop/laptop for the lead that goes to the mixer, i know i should get a external because am i right in saying its sends more than it needs to the mixer? or something like that.

What would you recomend me buying ovbiously you get what you pay for but your intake would be apprieciated.

what about the numark stereo io external.

You should be able to assess the amount of signal coming into your mixer on the DB meter on your mixer. If the BD meter reads hangs around 0db then everything should be funky and you should avoid square waving.

I don't use a laptop myself but the headphone socket probably isn't the best approach for a professional system. There are a couple of threads somewhere on here about sound cards and the best practice for connecting laptops to mixers.

[Kernow]

you know something i thought you was onto to something there....my desktop pc...

But then i thought, i used my desktop pc new years eve, friday night, and the speakers buzzed, but last night i used my laptop for convienience and it even did it with that, i have been using that laptop on many types of speakers and amp.



What software are you using for playout, and is it the same on both computers ?

[salford1986]

What software are you using for playout, and is it the same on both computers ?

im on virtual dj 7 on both

[Kernow]

im on virtual dj 7 on both
Cheers, sorry about all the questions, I'm genuinely trying to bring as much info into the thread as possible to see if anyone can suggest anything to help you. :)
(even if only by elimination of possibilities ? ;) )

[Excalibur]

If you're on VDJ7, I'd suggest two things.
First, the Stereo IO, isn't the tool for the job, as it's short of a channel. You need two stereo channels, not one. Thus the DJ IO is what you need. And yes, I've got one of those as well. ( You'll soon learn that there are a lot of us on here who have a lot of diverse things ;) )
Second, as a result of that, you'll need two Ground Loop Isolators. One per stereo channel. ( Some laptops function fine without these, but not by any means all )

PS. Try running with your laptop, and then unplug the mains cable. If a hum suddenly disappears, that's what the GLI's do.

[NKR]

If you're on VDJ7, I'd suggest two things.
First, the Stereo IO, isn't the tool for the job, as it's short of a channel. You need two stereo channels, not one. Thus the DJ IO is what you need. And yes, I've got one of those as well. ( You'll soon learn that there are a lot of us on here who have a lot of diverse things ;) )
Second, as a result of that, you'll need two Ground Loop Isolators. One per stereo channel. ( Some laptops function fine without these, but not by any means all )

PS. Try running with your laptop, and then unplug the mains cable. If a hum suddenly disappears, that's what the GLI's do.

You can also get a background hum when you have XLR's and even speaker cables running too close to power cables and extension blocks. A little reshuffle can retify this.

[Kernow]

You can also get a background hum when you have XLR's and even speaker cables running too close to power cables and extension blocks. A little reshuffle can retify this.
Inferred and presumably acted upon for elimination in post #19


Or are the mic cables up to the job ?
Although more apparent in instrument leads, due to their length, poor quality ones are very susceptible to signal and inductance interference.

:confused:

Unless we're breathwasters ? ;)

:D

[NKR]

Inferred and presumably acted upon for elimination in post #19



Unless we're breathwasters ? ;)

:D

Ahh missed that. Apologies, but at least we are on the same page.

[salford1986]

Right guys bit of a update on my speakers and amp scenario

I have choose to power my speakers with the Peavey pv2600 I had them on as loud as I cud haposibly have it, and it was perfect, did a bit of karaoke (sex on fire) it was great! Had the music blasting and the clip light flashed on and off very fast but music didn't fuzz like my old ipr 1600 I had this going for about 3.5 hours

The amp got warm, that's about it, but I think using the term warm is over exadurating haha

I have a back up if it does fail at a gig but from the way it sounded today I won't have any other problems, just a complete mystery why the ipr1600 didn't work on my system but wored perfect when i took it back to the shop, and we used same make of speakers.

But I'm happy it wasn't a problem with my speakers.

Honestly this whole scenario has messed my head up, makes you realise don't ever trust electrical equipment and always carry back up system. Lesson learned....

[Excalibur]

Delighted to hear it mate. I reckon you've probably taken the most sensible route, under the circumstances.

As to the problems with the IPR, I've got no idea, other than possibly it was being worked overly hard. :daft:

[salford1986]

As to the problems with the IPR, I've got no idea, other than possibly it was being worked overly hard. :daft:

Well if only it was that simple, the guy in the shop was driving it harder than I was and the ddt was working without it cutting out, but when you did it it just completely cut out and i wasn't even having no music just the Mic on and it was cutting out (making the buzzing noise)

Oh well haha

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[DAVESOUNDS SERVICES]

The ONLY problem that the IPR digital amps can suffer from is .....wait for it!
The 2 Speaker Grounds are NOT at the same potential so "IF" they ever get grounded together ( eg through a termination plate on an amp rack or at a wall outlet point ) then the amps protect computer goes totally bananas!
This apparent fault which would never upset most "OLD IRON" powered amplifiers ie ones with Mains Transformers and not Digital Switchers can and does drive the IPR range barmy!.
Apart from that theyre still totally brilliant amps in fact as i type this i am just specifying a pair for a new Mosque PA System..

[Excalibur]

This apparent fault which would never upset most "OLD IRON" powered amplifiers ie ones with Mains Transformers and not Digital Switchers can and does drive the IPR range barmy!.
From that post, do I take it that you are suggesting that this is indeed the cause of his woes?




Apart from that theyre still totally brilliant amps in fact as i type this i am just specifying a pair for a new Mosque PA System..

I just love your throwaway lines. I thought putting the CD players in the Halal slaughterhouse was the best one. :D :D

[DAVESOUNDS SERVICES]

I just love your throwaway lines. I thought putting the CD players in the Halal slaughterhouse was the best one. :D :D

Thank you Peter you are most kind!
Actually it was DVD player in a rack tray so they could play their prayers in
mp3 / CD audio files!...They were quite relieved to hear the PA rack back in service at the Halal Slaughterhouse!.
Its not given any trouble since!!!! i couldnt get away quick enough!
:)