Need help with this Microphone echo unit

[salford1986]

hello guys

I've been doing karaoke for about 8 years now every now and again (very rare actually) and i know of reverb, that can make people sound better. I get some singers who dont need it but this pub where i dj at now, they insist on having it because they are absulutly shocking...

I have found this, i dont want nothing to expensive because i might not be here long and im not a lover of karaoke but what do you think of this, http://www.gearsource.com/catalog/listing/53075

on the back it has 1/4 jacks left and right for input and output....what the hell do you do with this!!

I have the basic mobile dj setup 19'' american dj mixer with cd player in a box with a amplifier that i have powering my mixer, does this unit plug into my mixer channel somewhere? and do i plug my microphone in this and use this to controll my mic volumes??

any help would be great

sorry its not american dj my mixer is the American Audio Q-2411 if that helps will i be going through the Aux on the mixer

[Excalibur]

I'm not sure why you've linked to an American site, but I do know that our very own Darren (Solitaire ) has one of these
http://www.studiomaster.com/newestproducts-c3x.htm
in his case for when he does karaoke. He'd be the man to give chapter and verse.

Since I'm not really a compact kind of fella, I use an umpteen channel Behringer 1832 mixer for this purpose. Many options between these two extremes are available.

[salford1986]

http://www.adjaudio.com/pdffiles/Q-2411.pdf thats my mixer specs go to page 11 to see the back of my mixer

[Corabar Steve]

The manual to the processor would probably be of more use to us

[Excalibur]

The manual to the processor would probably be of more use to us

Well since you asked so nicely Steve, here you go. :D

http://www.lexiconpro.com/product_downloads/15/manuals/Alex_User_Guide_rev2.pdf

Edit: From a quick glance at said manual, I reckon this is of little use to you, as it's designed really for say a vocalist, who only uses one mic. You won't be able to split your mic channels on your mixer, and putting it in front of them isn't ideal.

[salford1986]

i have 2 wireless microphones that i plug into one of my mic sockets and, i have a box that i controll both mics off if you get me but i only plug it into one mic socket

[Excalibur]

i have 2 wireless microphones that i plug into one of my mic sockets and, i have a box that i controll both mics off if you get me but i only plug it into one mic socket

Twin radio mic, with mixed output, yes we know whereof you speak. What you've suggested would work, but it's far from ideal. In fact, it's pretty poor, and that's being charitable.

You have no tone controls anywhere on your mic channels, so you can't possibly adjust them to the venue. Some form of small mixer would do what you want. The FX version of this
http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/search/productdetail.jsp?sku=DP3137562
would suit you down to the ground.

[Dynamic Entertainment]

The ALEX unit is an outboard effects processor...so the 1/4 jacks are for hooking up to a mixer...so you need the send/return feature, which your mixer doesnt have.

[DazzyD]

I'm not sure why you've linked to an American site, but I do know that our very own Darren (Solitaire ) has one of these
http://www.studiomaster.com/newestproducts-c3x.htm
in his case for when he does karaoke. He'd be the man to give chapter and verse.

Since I'm not really a compact kind of fella, I use an umpteen channel Behringer 1832 mixer for this purpose. Many options between these two extremes are available.


And I'd recommend the StudioMaster Vocal Management System (VMS) - VMS (http://www.studiomaster.com/products/VMS.htm) - which does a similar job to the C3X. However, it only has the one mic input as it is aimed at the pro vocalist and the unit sits between your mic and your mixer as Peter points out but, for me, it does a really good job of vocal enhancement. Unfortunately, at about £150, it's not the cheapest FX unit on the market.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

And I'd recommend the StudioMaster Vocal Management System (VMS) - VMS (http://www.studiomaster.com/products/VMS.htm) - which does a similar job to the C3X. However, it only has the one mic input as it is aimed at the pro vocalist and the unit sits between your mic and your mixer as Peter points out but, for me, it does a really good job of vocal enhancement. Unfortunately, at about £150, it's not the cheapest FX unit on the market.

Shame there's not a version with more than one mic input.

[Excalibur]

I reckon something like this ( sold out sadly ) http://www.thomann.de/gb/behringer_xenyx_1202_fx.htm or this ( in stock ) http://www.thomann.de/gb/behringer_xenyx_1002_fx.htm would serve your purpose just fine.

[DazzyD]

Shame there's not a version with more than one mic input.

Couldn't agree more.

However, if there were more mic inputs then you'd need a set of fxs for each mic which would make the unit huge! It's much easier just getting a separate unit for each mic - ie you use two mics for karaoke then use two VMSs.

I would also advise caution for this unit for beginners. You really need to understand how the graphic equaliser works to get the best out of it. Trial and error until you find an effect that suits your voice is ok but, with the effects and permutations this unit provides, it could take a while! Then again, it's much the same as a GE on any mixing desk - I would assume that all DJs know how to use this properly! ;)

[salford1986]

i think im just gonna upgrade my mixer and get one with it built in. any good ones for about 100 quid or a little more

[hammy]

This would be better and has fx for each 4 mics http://www.thomann.de/gb/behringer_xenyx_x1622_usb.htm I bought one from someone off of here and it is perfect for karaoke

[salford1986]

I bought one from someone off of here and it is perfect for karaoke

this is spot on!, gonna keep my eyes out for one if anyone knows of one selling give me a shout. Thanks for all your help

[DJ Jules]

I was going to post a link to the mixer I've got (Mackie Pro FX 12), but it's more money and does slightly less than the Berry (for some reason the headphone output on the Mackie isn't switchable from the main output so you can't use them to listen pre-fade or pre-FX - you have to have a separate monitor to do that via the AUX rail).

I bought it in preference to the Berry mixers as I've heard all sorts of horror stories about reliability with the Berry's (from overheating or failure due to excessive heat inside the chassis through to issues with faders breaking off or crackling prematurely).

I guess there are Pro's and Con's for the Mackie - Pro being the brand name and reputation, Cons being less functionality and the higher price.

I'll shut up now :D

Incidentally, the Yamaha mixer that another forum member sold on here a while ago is also worth a look (MG124CX (http://www.gear4music.com/Recording-and-Computers/Yamaha-MG124CX-Mixer/7XL)) though it's slightly more expensive it has compressors built in while mean that you don't have to worry quite so much about the range of volume levels your "singers" might produce...

Julian

[salford1986]

what do you think of the ''behringer eurorack 1622fx-pro'' my mate is selling one i think its older one to the xenyx, but let me know what you think hes a good mate and he could sell it me for 70 quid, and if it goes wrong i know where he lives mwahahaha