View Full Version : Just saw this article -lol
paul1404
12-04-2012, 08:18 AM
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4251671/Police-arrest-groom-after-tiff-with-DJ.html
You can imagine how the night was going - Groom had probably choose some personal favs from the 80s era ( not really song that work a dancefloor) DJ read the crowd and pup on shout by LULU as we all know dancefloor filler and then this - But DJ was told to stick to playlist
ok, so it's a bit of an over-reaction, but I think we have all felt threatened by some drunken punter from time to time.
We don't know exactly what happened and you kind of expect a bit of verbal abuse from time to time and just shrug it off but maybe it was more than that?
Javlingames
12-04-2012, 08:57 AM
Whats more interesting is the comments by other readers underneath! I know the Sun has a terrible reputation but some of these comments, seriously??
''Sue the DJ''
''i hate it when you book a dj and they say yes we have all those songs then dont play what you wanted, they used to pride themselves once on getting the floor filled but not anymore''
''stupid DJ maybe he's thinking he was spinning at a club that he needed to wait for the right breaks to mix the next requested track because either he's an amateur and doesn't know how to drop mix whatever BPM the track maybe. he probably could have gotten tips had he played the requested track. i mean this is a wedding, you don't have all night to do a programming like your in a club''
''I think I would be visiting some of those nice ambulance chasing lawyers to sue both the hotel and the deejay. What a stupid deejay.''
DJ should play what ever is being requested, he is being PAID!!!!''
''
Kernow
12-04-2012, 11:41 AM
In the interests of Balance ?
The annoyed 'punter' was the Groom, who had paid the DJ and requested an 80's theme. The DJ then chose to deviate and play a 60's track and when questioned about it, rather than apologise and swiftly return to what he was instructed to play, chose to make a complaint that he had been threatened, which triggered a rather OTT response from the Police.
The whole situation seems to have arisen form an "I know better" attitude on the part of the DJ. ?
In the interests of Balance ?
The annoyed 'punter' was the Groom, who had paid the DJ and requested an 80's theme. The DJ then chose to deviate and play a 60's track and when questioned about it, rather than apologise and swiftly return to what he was instructed to play, chose to make a complaint that he had been threatened, which triggered a rather OTT response from the Police.
The whole situation seems to have arisen form an "I know better" attitude on the part of the DJ. ?
Agreed.
It sounds like a complete communication failure on the part of the DJ, both ahead of the event to determine what should and shouldn't be played, and then when the error had occurred in effectively placating the customer. Both skills that are pretty basic requirements when dealing with stressed/drunken/demanding/particular customers.
Javlingames
12-04-2012, 11:57 AM
To me it sounds like the DJ went out of theme, groom has come over (drunk) and kicked off, DJ felt threatened and raised the alarm. Could have been handled better by both sides really.
Solitaire Events Ltd
12-04-2012, 12:04 PM
To me it sounds like the DJ went out of theme, groom has come over (drunk) and kicked off, DJ felt threatened and raised the alarm. Could have been handled better by both sides really.
Agreed and I also don't think all of the facts have been printed. A small disagreement over one song and 15 officers and a helicopter turn up?
Doesn't make sense to me.
Kernow
12-04-2012, 12:16 PM
Could be worth reading some of the comments on the Sun page from people who were actually at the Wedding ? ;)
Solitaire Events Ltd
12-04-2012, 12:20 PM
Could be worth reading some of the comments on the Sun page from people who were actually at the Wedding ? ;)
I wasn't so much meaning that - no-one was party to the conversation between the groom and DJ so we don't know what was said. Also, is there any information about the groom? Is he a former offender etc?
Solitaire Events Ltd
12-04-2012, 12:23 PM
Could be worth reading some of the comments on the Sun page from people who were actually at the Wedding ? ;)
Where would that be then? :confused:
Charlie Brown
12-04-2012, 12:25 PM
If they felt they needed to do anything at all then a couple of officers could have walked in, had a quiet word and let everyone carry on having a good time. Not march in and form a police line. Handled very badly, and I was there so I know the truth.
This is my aunt and uncles wedding and i can confirm 100% of this story is true, the day started lovely, elegant ceremony, beautiful food and we were lead to a marquee for drinks and dancing, halfway into the night the only commotion i witnessed was the 15 odd police officers lining up at the side of the tent aswell as the police helicopter that appeared to be circling ahead us an hour prior. Now im all for the police doing there job but how about sending a reasonable amount of officers to assess the alledged situation beforehand rather than frightening children and ruining my aunt and uncles wedding night by forcing him to spend a night in the cells, after waiting 27 years to get married and spending alot of money, upfront may i add, for there wedding day, any reasonable person would be greatly upset by the distress caused by the police. Also if they were only coming to see about "the behaviour of a male.” does that need one helicopter 15 officers 3 riot vans and 7 cars?? No. All of this should be investigated and a full refund should be paid. You can only see a few officers in that picture because i couldnt stand back further enough to get them all in and also there were officers at the side entrance lined up behind the curtain
The only person that should have been arrested was the one that called the police and gave them false information. Badly handled by both staff and the police, I know, I was there. I think a refund is in order.
I was there at the wedding on sunday. The reason ONE guy looks like a ''chav'' as some of you put it. This was proberbly because he had been in a suit and tie since 11am in the morning and the picture was taken at 11pm. The hotel secuirty went on the word from the DJ. The groom only got annoyed when the police turned up they just aggravated the situation. THERE WAS NO RISK OF ANY GUEST KICKING OF. Everbody was calming the groom down. 15 police officers was adequate to deal with the groom there was no need for the dogs and helicopter which turned up 15 mins after the first officers arrived they should have assesed the situation and realeased all those resources where not needed.
We were there, trust me there was no altercation other than with the dj. I for one did not drink! It's the handling of the situation that's the prob. As for the guy in the T-shirt, he happens to have a very good business and is prob one of the nicest guys u wud so don't judge wot u don't know. There's always 2 sides to every story agreed but they spent a lot of money an it was a lot of things that was wrong not just the dj.
It wasn't the grooms fault. They should never have booked Darren Thomas in the first place. He was shockin!!!
Solitaire Events Ltd
12-04-2012, 12:30 PM
In the interests of Balance ?
The annoyed 'punter' was the Groom, who had paid the DJ and requested an 80's theme. The DJ then chose to deviate and play a 60's track
Shout was re-released in the 80s and got to number 8 in the charts, so technically the DJ wasn't wrong anyway.
Javlingames
12-04-2012, 12:32 PM
Wow charlie, you really are at the forefront of everything lol.
Was your uncle behaving in a threating manor to the dj?
Kernow
12-04-2012, 12:32 PM
I wasn't so much meaning that - no-one was party to the conversation between the groom and DJ so we don't know what was said. Also, is there any information about the groom? Is he a former offender etc?
The only information is that he had been 'irked' by earlier events in the day, and as a result of the incident his £50,000 wedding ended in his new Bride spending her first night alone.
Is there a particular reason why anyone should not be allowed to be stressed or drunk on their own Wedding day ? :confused:
All could have been avoided if the DJ had stuck to his instructions and what he had been paid to do ?
Kernow
12-04-2012, 12:38 PM
Shout was re-released in the 80s and got to number 8 in the charts, so technically the DJ wasn't wrong anyway.
He was in the eyes of his client ;)
Solitaire Events Ltd
12-04-2012, 12:38 PM
The only information is that he had been 'irked' by earlier events in the day, and as a result of the incident his £50,000 wedding ended in his new Bride spending her first night alone.
Is there a particlar reason why anyone should not be allowed to be stressed or drunk on their own Wedding day ? :confused:
All could have been avoided if the DJ had stuck to his instructions and what he had been paid to do ?
He did. As I said earlier, Shout was rereleased in the 80s.
There is still more to this than meets the eye and you cannot possibly be blaming the DJ for the number of police or anything else come to that.
You think it's OK for a DJ to be threatened do you, regardless of what happened?
Solitaire Events Ltd
12-04-2012, 12:39 PM
He was in the eyes of his client ;)
So that gives the client the right to threaten him does it?
I don't think so.
DazzyD
12-04-2012, 12:44 PM
Could be worth reading some of the comments on the Sun page from people who were actually at the Wedding ? ;)
But those people were there as guests/family/friends of the bride and groom. They're hardly going to say "Oh, John was mortal drunk, he'd had a bad day and was taking it out on the DJ. He's a complete :Censored: if you ask me!".
No, they all say "Oh, it was all the DJ/police/hotel staff/man down the road/woman reading the news on ITV367/my great aunt's next door neighbour's cat that caused the problems.". Blame anyone but the pillock who kicked off because he didn't like Lulu!
And you can't help but notice the great lack of reply from the DJ or security staff in this story. Nice one, Sun. Good to see you giving a truely balanced account of events, as always!! They've probably hacked the DJs mobile phone and email accounts by now!!
As for the groom, I can't help but wonder if he sees this as an easy way of getting some of his "hard earned" money back after his day hadn't gone quite the way he'd wanted it to. In the interests of fairness and legality, I'm not saying that this is what happened - just that I can't help wondering, that's all! ;) Oh, and these comments are my own and not the opinion of MDD.
Kernow
12-04-2012, 12:44 PM
You think it's OK for a DJ to be threatened do you, regardless of what happened?
Absolutely not :( , but I think it's important to be able to handle these situations with maturity and effective communication to de-escalate them in an amicable fashion rather than scream "Murder" at the first opportunity ? :)
Solitaire Events Ltd
12-04-2012, 12:48 PM
Absolutely not :( , but I think it's important to be able to handle these situations with maturity and effective communication to de-escalate them in an amicable fashion rather than scream "Murder" at the first opportunity ? :)
Agreed, but if someone came over to you and started threatening you and they wouldn't calm down or wouldn't listen, what would you do?
Would you leave yourself open to physical abuse?
Perhaps someone requested the song and the fact is, it was rereleased in the 80s. Perhaps the DJ was trying to explain that to the groom?
We all know how objective drunk people are, don't we?
Kernow
12-04-2012, 01:01 PM
Agreed, but if someone came over to you and started threatening you and they wouldn't calm down or wouldn't listen, what would you do?
If it was the groom (my paymaster), apologise and rapidly change to the next track to get back on his theme ;)
We've probably all had similar situations when playing a track that was 'played at a recent family funeral', 'first dance at either of the couples' previous wedding' etc. Get it off and play something else ?
If the guy came over ranting and raving about not playing a certain type of music, the solution to the problem is simple....start playing that certain type of music and apologise. The fact is, you are dealing with often inebriated, on occasion aggressive people fairly regularly in this line of work and should be able to take the higher ground, know that the persons behaviour is driven by alcohol and treat the customer accordingly... Perhaps there is something to be said for a "How to Handle Difficult customers/Drunken Punters" type workshop at one of these DJ meets...
Ecstatic Events
12-04-2012, 01:21 PM
Agreed and I also don't think all of the facts have been printed. A small disagreement over one song and 15 officers and a helicopter turn up?
Doesn't make sense to me.
I think this was a "high profile" gypsy wedding Darren?? I am friends with someone on Facebook who posted a status update (they were employed as security) referring to this over the weekend (identical story)
I might be wrong but it seems to be too much of a coincidence to me ;)
If they felt they needed to do anything at all then a couple of officers could have walked in, had a quiet word and let everyone carry on having a good time. Not march in and form a police line. Handled very badly, and I was there so I know the truth.
This is my aunt and uncles wedding and i can confirm 100% of this story is true, the day started lovely, elegant ceremony, beautiful food and we were lead to a marquee for drinks and dancing, halfway into the night the only commotion i witnessed was the 15 odd police officers lining up at the side of the tent aswell as the police helicopter that appeared to be circling ahead us an hour prior. Now im all for the police doing there job but how about sending a reasonable amount of officers to assess the alledged situation beforehand rather than frightening children and ruining my aunt and uncles wedding night by forcing him to spend a night in the cells, after waiting 27 years to get married and spending alot of money, upfront may i add, for there wedding day, any reasonable person would be greatly upset by the distress caused by the police. Also if they were only coming to see about "the behaviour of a male.” does that need one helicopter 15 officers 3 riot vans and 7 cars?? No. All of this should be investigated and a full refund should be paid. You can only see a few officers in that picture because i couldnt stand back further enough to get them all in and also there were officers at the side entrance lined up behind the curtain
The only person that should have been arrested was the one that called the police and gave them false information. Badly handled by both staff and the police, I know, I was there. I think a refund is in order.
I was there at the wedding on sunday. The reason ONE guy looks like a ''chav'' as some of you put it. This was proberbly because he had been in a suit and tie since 11am in the morning and the picture was taken at 11pm. The hotel secuirty went on the word from the DJ. The groom only got annoyed when the police turned up they just aggravated the situation. THERE WAS NO RISK OF ANY GUEST KICKING OF. Everbody was calming the groom down. 15 police officers was adequate to deal with the groom there was no need for the dogs and helicopter which turned up 15 mins after the first officers arrived they should have assesed the situation and realeased all those resources where not needed.
We were there, trust me there was no altercation other than with the dj. I for one did not drink! It's the handling of the situation that's the prob. As for the guy in the T-shirt, he happens to have a very good business and is prob one of the nicest guys u wud so don't judge wot u don't know. There's always 2 sides to every story agreed but they spent a lot of money an it was a lot of things that was wrong not just the dj.
It wasn't the grooms fault. They should never have booked Darren Thomas in the first place. He was shockin!!!
You should be on Jackanory Charlie. I didn't realise you were part of the traveller community :D
Solitaire Events Ltd
12-04-2012, 01:26 PM
If it was the groom (my paymaster), apologise and rapidly change to the next track to get back on his theme ;)
Sorry, but that didn't answer any of my points. You obviously feel it's OK to be threatened by someone just because they are paying you. The fact that they are paying you does not mean they can dictate to you or abuse you IMO.
If you work like that, then that's your prerogative.
Solitaire Events Ltd
12-04-2012, 01:27 PM
Perhaps there is something to be said for a "How to Handle Difficult customers/Drunken Punters" type workshop at one of these DJ meets...
Or in this case, how to let someone abuse you and for you to take it.
Charlie Brown
12-04-2012, 01:34 PM
You should be on Jackanory Charlie. I didn't realise you were part of the traveller community :D
Am I missing something? :confused:
Abuse is quite a subjective thing though no? You may take offense at something I wouldn't or vice versa.
The over-reaction in this case certainly seems to be with the Police and the way they attended the event....but who knows....what's to say the DJ reported the incident in a dramatic and overstated way and took the grooms behaviour as abuse when to another DJ, it may have been passed off as mere banter.
Ecstatic Events
12-04-2012, 01:38 PM
Am I missing something? :confused:
Are you SURE you were at this wedding?
The only reason I ask is that this company http://www.a1protectionservices.net/90250/contact.php were the security company at this event and posted an update on Facebook about this event being a "gypsy" wedding. Based in Coventry - coincidence, much?
:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
Charlie Brown
12-04-2012, 01:42 PM
Are you SURE you were at this wedding?
At what point did I say I was at the wedding? :confused:
I was in Nottingham all last weekend? :)
Edit - Noooo! The comments I posted about the wedding were taken from the Sun's website because Darren couldn't find the testimonials/reviews on the website.
I just added the 'Darren Thomas' comment at the bottom for a laugh.
:lol:
Solitaire Events Ltd
12-04-2012, 01:43 PM
Abuse is quite a subjective thing though no? You may take offense at something I wouldn't or vice versa.
The over-reaction in this case certainly seems to be with the Police and the way they attended the event....but who knows....what's to say the DJ reported the incident in a dramatic and overstated way and took the grooms behaviour as abuse when to another DJ, it may have been passed off as mere banter.
This is why I said earlier that we don't know what was said between the groom and DJ, so it's hard to know why he called the police etc
Solitaire Events Ltd
12-04-2012, 01:44 PM
Are you SURE you were at this wedding?
He was posting information from the Sun's website...
Keep up at the back...:D
Ecstatic Events
12-04-2012, 01:47 PM
I was there at the wedding on sunday. The reason ONE guy looks like a ''chav'' as some of you put it. This was proberbly because he had been in a suit and tie since 11am in the morning and the picture was taken at 11pm. The hotel secuirty went on the word from the DJ. The groom only got annoyed when the police turned up they just aggravated the situation. THERE WAS NO RISK OF ANY GUEST KICKING OF. Everbody was calming the groom down. 15 police officers was adequate to deal with the groom there was no need for the dogs and helicopter which turned up 15 mins after the first officers arrived they should have assesed the situation and realeased all those resources where not needed.
Sorry Charlie, unless I'm reading that incorrectly.
To be honest, I am guilty of skipping over most of your comments :p :p :p :p
Anyhow, was this REALLY your uncles wedding???
Ecstatic Events
12-04-2012, 01:48 PM
Oh right - I'm being a donut then? Lol
Wayno
12-04-2012, 02:02 PM
Something's a foot and its not 12 inches...
Mission
12-04-2012, 02:52 PM
I had a call from someone at "The Mail" asking If I had DJ'd at Coombe Abbey.
Thought it was an enquiry at first until he told me the story and that it was in the Sun.
Obviously trying to contact the DJ to get their side.
Corabar Entertainment
12-04-2012, 03:52 PM
....what's to say the DJ reported the incident in a dramatic and overstated way
This is why I said earlier that we don't know what was said between the groom and DJ, so it's hard to know why he called the police etc
The article mentioned that it was the hotel staff who called the police, not the DJ.
Even this one-sided article talks about the groom being 'irked' and that he 'flipped', and that an argument ensued during which the DJ says he was threatened. It also states that at the same time that the music went off, the security closed the bar. Security don't close the bar at a wedding (for that matter, how many weddings have security?) for a bit of 'banter'.
We will never know if the DJ panicked, because, as already said, none of us were party to the conversation, but if it was a traveller wedding, it's quite possible that people were on edge. We all know how easily these can kick off, so they may well have erred on the side of caution. If 350 guests had kicked off, 15 policemen would have looked pretty puny up against that!
To me, that's the most plausible explanation that fits the facts.
paul1404
12-04-2012, 04:18 PM
Lol I read it as well as if Charlie was actually at this wedding !! LOL this is one of the best threads ever !!
Charlie Brown
12-04-2012, 04:26 PM
:lol:
Like I have said before,
I Steer we'll clear of playlists, there are more trouble than good, let the Dj be the best judge of what music should be played.
I would include SHOUT in an 80's night, just like I would REET PETITE, STAND BY ME, I HEARD IT THROUGH THE GRAPEVINE and many more 50's and 60's hits that were massive hits in the 80's, Patsy Cline CRAZY, the list is long.
At the risk of taking things off topic, to my mind, an 80's night would consist of music which defined the era of the 80's, not 'music that was released between 31st December 1979 and 1st January 1990...
soundtracker
12-04-2012, 06:40 PM
At the risk of taking things off topic, to my mind, an 80's night would consist of music which defined the era of the 80's, not 'music that was released between 31st December 1979 and 1st January 1990...
The problem being, "music which defines the 80's" is subjective, and completely a matter of opinion, which is likely to land you in a whole lot more trouble.
My guess on this particular function is that very little (if any) discussion was held between DJ & Groom, and that no ground rules were set.
hammy
12-04-2012, 06:41 PM
At the risk of taking things off topic, to my mind, an 80's night would consist of music which defined the era of the 80's, not 'music that was released between 31st December 1979 and 1st January 1990...
:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
I was responding to AJMs post, it's all good and well arguing that Shout, Stand By Me, Reet Petite etc was released in the 80's ergo it's playable on an 80's night, when its plainly obvious that they are not 80's songs.
The problem being, "music which defines the 80's" is subjective, and completely a matter of opinion, which is likely to land you in a whole lot more trouble.
My guess on this particular function is that very little (if any) discussion was held between DJ & Groom, and that no ground rules were set.
Agreed, one of my first posts suggested as much (regarding communication with the customer)
Corabar Steve
12-04-2012, 07:19 PM
Shout was actually a re-recording & did sound different to the 60s version.
They may not have been originally recorded in the 80's but that can be said of many hits that were recorded years before being a hit single, they were definitely part of the decade though. Everyone who remembers the 80's can remember the Jeans advert with, I HEARD IT TROUGH THE GRAPVINE, and it takes them back to that decade. There was a huge 60's revival in the early 80's with many songs re released and revamped and it was all part of the decade.
It is a matter of opinion though that needs to be discussed beforehand.
theoloyla
12-04-2012, 08:18 PM
I read that it was the hotel security that called the police and told them that 200 people were kicking off. That would probably be why they arrived mob handed. My guess (and it is only a guess) as to what happened is that the groom who was already upset by earlier things that the hotel had got wrong and was well oiled went and had a row with the dj who evidently couldnt/didnt defuse the situation and probably said "I am not here to be threatened" and turned the music off at which point the audience all got involved.
I was responding to AJMs post, it's all good and well arguing that Shout, Stand By Me, Reet Petite etc was released in the 80's ergo it's playable on an 80's night, when its plainly obvious that they are not 80's songs.
If you adopt that line of thinking then you can't play Tainted Love when doing an 80's night.
JTRS
If you adopt that line of thinking then you can't play Tainted Love when doing an 80's night.
JTRS
Yes you could! Its a more commercially successful 80's styled cover version. Play Soft Cell to general public (so, not hair splitting DJ's who know their pop music history then :p ) and ask them 'what decade is this track from'...the answer would be, in most cases, the 80's.
I dont believe thats true for the other songs mentioned.
I may have to concede a point here.
By way of Experiment I asked the wife her opinions, for all tracks she answered 60's except Reet Petite, which she answered 90's then corrected herself and changed it to 80's. She was dressing one of the kids at the time so I reckon that clouded her judgement ;) :D
Kernow
13-04-2012, 08:57 AM
We all know how objective drunk people are, don't we?
And how receptive they are to the finer points of technicality ?;)
In such circumstances, the perception would almost certainly be of "smartarse" which would do nothing to defuse the situation, indeed it may very well escalate it ?
At the risk of taking things off topic, to my mind, an 80's night would consist of music which defined the era of the 80's, not "music that was released between 31st December 1979 and 1st January 1990"...
:agree:
Solitaire Events Ltd
13-04-2012, 09:31 AM
And how receptive they are to the finer points of technicality ?;)
In such circumstances, the perception would almost certainly be of "smartarse" which would do nothing to defuse the situation, indeed it may very well escalate it ?
And so, I ask again, are you happy with clients abusing you and threatening you just because they are paying you?
I still maintain that there isn't a single reason that's good enough for them to be doing that.
Kernow
13-04-2012, 10:13 AM
And so, I ask again, are you happy with clients abusing you and threatening you just because they are paying you?
I still maintain that there isn't a single reason that's good enough for them to be doing that.
In fairness, as I am unable to speak from a position of experience having never allowed a situation to develop to that level, it's a difficult one to answer. Clearly though I would not be happy if it should.
I do however accept that with payment they are entitled to impose their explicit wishes, and should I inadvertently stray from those, the error is entirely mine for which I will readily apologise and take immediate action to rectify my transgression hopefully to their satisfaction. I certainly wouldn't argue the point or try to outsmart them, that's just confrontational :eek:. Calculated retreat is never cowardice..... it's survival instinct !! ;)
STEVE HANLEY
13-04-2012, 10:25 AM
Yes you could! Its a more commercially successful 80's styled cover version. Play Soft Cell to general public (so, not hair splitting DJ's who know their pop music history then :p ) and ask them 'what decade is this track from'...the answer would be, in most cases, the 80's.
I dont believe thats true for the other songs mentioned.
Totally agree. The Soft Cell version of Tainted Love is one of the most famous songs of the 80's and is virtually unrecognisable from the Gloria Jones effort in 1965. (Plus it was only the B side to a single called My Bad Boys Coming Home) It was virtually unheard of in the 60's;) ;) ;)
lazersounds
13-04-2012, 10:25 AM
In fairness, as I am unable to speak from a position of experience having never allowed a situation to develop to that level, it's a difficult one to answer. Clearly though I would not be happy if it should.
I do however accept that with payment they are entitled to impose their explicit wishes, and should I inadvertently stray from those, the error is entirely mine for which I will readily apologise and take immediate action to rectify my transgression hopefully to their satisfaction. I certainly wouldn't argue the point or try to outsmart them, that's just confrontational :eek:. Calculated retreat is never cowardice..... it's survival instinct !! ;)
:agree:
At the end of the day thay have paid you to do a job and what they say goes really, if I stray from a playlist and someone moans about it, I just apoligise and carry on, I don't get clever and pick a argument :)
Solitaire Events Ltd
13-04-2012, 10:29 AM
And if someone threatens you because you won't 'play one more' or some other reason?
I get the impression that some people on here think it's OK to back down when someone is threatening you because they are paying you?
I find that kind of attitude a little strange to be honest. If someone threatened a shop assistant or bank clerk because they made a mistake, do you suppose they would back down or would they press the emergency button or call the police.
What other job is it OK for someone to threaten or abuse you?
I just do not understand some people's attitudes here.
Kernow
13-04-2012, 01:23 PM
What other job is it OK for someone to threaten or abuse you?.
Professional Boxer ? ;):D ..........
....... or stand-up Comedian, dealing with hecklers and abusive drunks is an essential part of their skillset, as it should be part of ours ?
Corabar Entertainment
13-04-2012, 01:29 PM
Professional Boxer ? ;):D ..........
....... or stand-up Comedian, dealing with hecklers and abusive drunks is an essential part of their skillset, as it should be part of ours ?
Come on, Rob. This wasn't a heckle from a distance. This was a bloke going ape in the DJs face over his choice of song. Even the one-sided article stated the groom was already irked over other things that hadn't gone the way he wanted (even though one of the guests posting in the comments section said everything had gone perfectly), and saying that he 'flipped' when 'Shout' was played. The DJ says he was threatened.
If someone flipped because a particular song was played and was in your face and threatening you, do you really think that stopping the music is an over-reaction? (...and hey, he did turn off Lulu immediately, didn't he? :sj:)
Even from that biased article, I think you can easily read between the lines that there wasn't going to be much 'reasoning' to be done with the groom.
theoloyla
13-04-2012, 05:32 PM
Darren, many workers have to endure insults and abuse on a daily basis. It isnt nice and it isnt right but learning how to defuse situations created by irate customers is a skill well learned. Now to be honest I dont know what the groom said and did to the dj and I dont know what his reaction was but when you are threatened by someone it is often good policy to try and placate them rather than spit your dummy out which May have happened here.
Professional Boxer ? ;):D ..........
....... or stand-up Comedian, dealing with hecklers and abusive drunks is an essential part of their skillset, as it should be part of ours ?
Errr No, there is a world of difference between hecklers and non-threatening abusive drunks (which is not only part and parcel of being a stand-up comic but it is actually welcomed by most comics (myself included)) and making threats to a DJ.
What I've found since giving up comedy and moving to DJing is that I've lost the heckling and light-hearted/good natured abuse and I've gained what can perhaps best be termed as banter. It's hard to put into words what the difference is, but trust me, there is a distinct difference.
In my opinion it's OK to heckle a comedian (you'll either lose (because the comic has heard it all before and has an arsenal of comebacks), or you might just get one over and the audience will love it, either way the comic wins), and it's OK to have a bit of banter with the DJ, but making threats is an absolute no-no and is totally unacceptable.
JTRS
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