abuse from clients

[electricnite]

on sat night one of my jocks endured a tirade of abuse from A GROOM yes a groom , the music genre requested was upto date and play requests from guests which he did maticulously when request were playyed the groom was hurling abuse regarding this and ordering him ti change it (with a full floor i may add) i. from another venue had to phone the venue and speak to the dm and night manager as my jock thought if he came from disco then he would of been jumped by several of the grooms mates who were egging the groom on to clagg him, to which he did did a swipe at him for no reason other than being intoxicated beyond control, then he proceeded a tirade of abuse to the dm who was a redhead so you can only imagine what this half brain chav was hurling. and then the 65 yr old night manager. it goes on and you get my point. what gives people the right to do this to people doing who are there breaking their back for them :Censored:

a very disgruntled sean

[Shaun]

Sounds like a nightmare.

Out of curiousity, do you have anything in your T&C's about guest conduct?

I'd have no qualms about packing up and heading home in such a situation. At the first point of the grooms mates egging him on to "clagg the DJ" I'm afraid that would have killed the sound till they they were ejected from the building. If it escalated then call the police and start packing up. I have zero tolerance for this type of behaviour. We're there to do a job, not be threatened.

[hammy]

It is all to do with alcohol. I had an instance at a wedding 2 weeks ago where I nearly had a frank exchange of views with* the groom due to abuse, It is becoming quite frequent lately.


*Mod Note. Edited to more amenable language, at Hammy's request. . Excalibur.

[electricnite]

we had security come from the nightclub downstairs for the last 20 mins to monitor the situation with it being nearly over because his bride was clearly upset with her new husbands behavior so we didnt want to ruin her day because of him. I would have understood if he wasnt playing what was requested on the itinery but he was and the dance floor was full. idiots !!!!!!

[hammy]

It is all to do with alcohol. I had an instance at a wedding 2 weeks ago where I nearly had a frank exchange of views with the groom due to abuse, It is becoming quite frequent lately.

maybe the above was the wrong words so here goes again

It is all to do with alcohol. I had an instance at a wedding 2 weeks ago where I had to"converse with, In a stern manner"with the groom due to abuse, It is becoming quite frequent lately.

[soundtracker]

I had a Groom start to have a go at me recently because I hadn't played his mate's request for Marvin Gaye. He soon backed off when I explained that the moron had made his request 20 minutes after I had finished and taken the speakers to the vehicle!

[Excalibur]

maybe the above was the wrong words so here goes again
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Much better mate. Well done for spotting your faux pas. I'll edit the first post.


when I explained that the moron had made his request 20 minutes after I had finished and taken the speakers to the vehicle!

Oh my, that's sheer class!:Laugh:

[WWDJ]

Makes me not want to go out on Saturday night now.

For sure, if things got that bad, music would be off straight away.

I think i have only had one lot of 'abuse' in the last 5 year from one very drunken woman.

[DazzyD]

For me, if anyone decides to take a swipe at me, there will be no more music! Plain and simple. My safety and security is paramount and if can't be guaranteed then I'm gone.

[Shakermaker Promotions]

It's something that I mention in my pre-function meetings towards the end. I don't mean it to come across as a negative and I tell the customer that.
I explain that generally, if you go out to a Bar or Club and there is music and alcohol involved, there are usually doorstaff employed. I (we), go out week in, week out to functions where more than likely we know nobody and there are no doorstaff to look after us.

I do explain that it is a very rare occurrence and 99.999% of the time nothing happens. The worst is usually someone being verbal and I can handle that. We shouldn't have to take it but it's easy enough to deal with if you have to.
What I do is get the name of the Best Man or someone the customer nominates in advance and advise that this person is the person I would call upon should there be a time when I need them. I make myself known to that person on arrival.

I can only think of 2 occasions where I have had to call upon someone. I was never threatened to be fair and I wasn't in danger or anything. It was a case (on both occasions) and someone simply not leaving me alone to get on what I was there to do. It was quite verbal at times and on both occasions, the trouble makers (or pain in the backsides) were asked to leave.

[dj foureyes]

I had a problem with a guy about 10 years ago. It was a good night and the Bloke was what you would call a perfect guest, asking for good songs to dance too and getting people up to dance as well. I must have played about 8 songs for Bloke all night and he seemed happy until.........
11-55 and I'm just about to play the last song and he came over and said,
"Play xxxx for me, will ya?"
Me: I'm sorry but this is the last song and the Bride and Groom want it to be xxxxx.
Bloke: Go on , just play it, they won't mind.
Me:I'm really sorry but we have run out of time.
He wanders off muttering under his breath to his table next to one of my speakers. I play the last song and everyone is happy apart from Bloke. I can hear him talking to his mates about how rubbish (polite version) the DJ was and how he spoilt his night. At this point the B&G came over and thanked me for a fantastic night and how I played everything that they wanted. Bloke appears over their shoulders and said,
"yeah but he didn't play xxxx though, did he?"
Me: but I couldn't play that song because I had already lined up your last song and that was the last song.
Bloke to bride and groom: well I wouldn't pay him
Me: I played ALL of your requests tonight apart from that one and you were dancing.
Bloke, as walking back to his mates:what a S__t DJ.
Anyway he sat back down with his mates and I started breaking down my gear and all the time I could hear him whinging and moaning about me not playing his song and also questioning my sexual habits and parentage.
Now I haven't had a fight or been anywhere near having a fight since I was about 14 but something just snapped in me at that moment because he wouldn't shut up so I walked over to his table and said, " I'm really sorry that I couldn't play your song but if you would like to follow me outside, perhaps we can talk about it"
Now I'm not a big bloke and he was about five inches taller and probably outweighed me by 3 stone but he could tell that he had crossed the line. He just said, "nah , it's alright" he then drank his drink and left with his mates straight away. I got a text the next day from the B&G apologising for his behaviour because they had heard about it from his mates.
I am not condoning my actions but why should I have to take 15 minutes worth of abuse?

[Daryll]

From my contract


Under no circumstances whatsoever will Crimson Tide (or anyone representing Crimson Tide) tolerate any abusive, aggressive or violent behavior from Anyone whatsoever towards and/or personnel .of Crimson Tide ,We reserve the right to terminate our services at any time should we feel our personal safety or the safety of the equipment is under threat of harm, pain or suffering. If this occurs no refund of any amount will be given and Crimson Tide reserve the right to claim damages against any said persons.

Never had to use it , but I would not hesitate to do so.

Daryll

[Shakermaker Promotions]

I had a brilliant night last night and will put the review in Good Gig/Bad Gig later but I thought I'd mention 1 guy who was there.
Same kind of thing as DJFoureyes, this guy was dancing to everything and then approached me...He looked younger than me and had a bit of attitude which was a shame because everyone else was really cool, appreciative and well behaved.

"Oi Son! Have you got Jocelyn Brown 'Somebody Elses Guy?"
"Yes, I have. I will try and get it on for you but I only have about 15 minutes left".
"Don't TRY mate, just bung it on!"
"I'll see what I can do for you ok"

He walks off with a grin on his face. I've already had 'Everybody needs somebody' cue'd up as the next track as the MD and another guy were dressed as the Blues Brothers.

Obviously Mr Donut who requested the Jocelyn Brown track was one of those typical guests that thinks that if they request something it should be played immediately - Wrong!
As the Blues Brothers started, everyone went mad for it and the atmosphere was great. Mr Donut walked through everyone dancing and came straight up to me again.
"Oi Son" (that was annoying me to start with)..."Where's my Jocelyn Brown track?"
"As I said, If I get time, I will play it for you. I have a lot of other requests to play that have come in before yours and I am running out of time to play them".
"Forget those...Come on, Chop Chop...chuck it on next".

By now I had a couple of songs left to play and I had now made up my mind that I was not going to play it because he was being a pain in the backside.
I had 2 requested songs that had come in earlier that were guaranteed floorfillers so I played them instead. I was under strict instructions to stop at 11.00pm by the organiser and also the hotel so there was no way I was going to upset them.

As the last song faded out and the lights went up, everyone clapped and cheered me and the MD asked if he could use my microphone. He thanked everyone, said he'd see them all in the morning for the meeting and then thanked me again and everyone clapped and cheered again...it was nice.
I started packing down the equipment and a number of the guests left the room to go to their rooms. A few people hung about including Mr Donut.

He started talking loudly and I could hear him moaning that I hadn't played his song for him. I didn't hear him call me a **** DJ but he was moaning out loud, obviously for my benefit. He was stood in front of the exit with 3 other guys and I needed to get out that way to load up the van. I was carrying an amp and said "Excuse me" so I could get past. They all moved and as I walked past them, Mr Donut said "Didn't play my ******** song did you!!". I ignored him and carried on and he shouted after me. I could hear him moaning again from my van.

As I went back to get more equipment, he stopped me and asked "Why didn't you play my song Son?".
"As I said, there were other requests before yours and I ran out of time".
"Not good enough!" he replied.
I'd had enough by now....I'd had a really good night, as had the guests but this dork was doing my head in.
"So, what do you want me to do about it?" I asked.
"It's a bit late now aint it Son"
"Well, what's with the grief?" I asked.."You look like you all had a great night so why moan about one song not being played when I have explained"
"Just jog off home Son, Go on...see ya" he said

I shook my head and said nothing. I was pretty narked by that last comment, especially coming from some dork that was giving it the large one in front of his mates/colleagues.
Anyway, I was in and out of the exit with equipment and had to ask "Excuse Me" every single time. Nobody said anything until I was taking the last bits out.
"All done then Son?" He asked...
"Yes mate, time to get home. I'm looking forward to having a nice cold one when I get in"
"A word of advice.." He said..."When someone asks you for a song in the future, play it for them or they may get upset".
I laughed and said "Thanks for the advice mate. I'll take that on board".
I walked away and heard him call me something under his breath.
"Excuse me?" I asked..."What was that?"
"Jog on mate" he replied..
Again, unbelievably I said nothing but just walked back to the van, shaking my head. I put the last bits in and then realised that I had left my coat inside. I walked back to the exit and the guy was closing the door. He saw me but closed it. I knocked on the door and he said "You'll have to walk round mate".
By now I was getting wound up. I was tired, sweaty and annoyed and it was chucking it down with rain.
I ran round to the front of the hotel and just as I got back to the room, he was walking out.
"Nice one, thanks mate!" I said sarcastically.
He just laughed. His mates shook their heads and walked on.
As he was on his own now, I gave him some back.
"You're a funny bloke aren't you" I said.
"Yeah son, and you're not!" he replied...."Off you go, see ya!".
"I'll be off in a second don't worry. I just need to grab my coat and then I'm gone".
"Nice one!" he replied.
"Don't get too upset about not hearing your song. It's a good song too but I just didn't have time to play it".
He laughed and started walking away and I thought that was it but once again he called me something as he walked off.
"Excuse me?" I asked.
"Are you deaf aswell Son?" he replied..."Go on, jog on home".
I was putting on my coat as he walked back towards me. Up until that moment I had been very chilled and had kept my cool. I never lost it properly with him as I was aware that I was still in the hotel. Everyone else had gone to their rooms.

"Give it a rest mate" I said..."Just leave the abuse and go to bed".
"You're lucky I'm in a good mood" he replied.
"No! YOU'RE lucky I'M in a good mood" I replied..."I don't normally tolerate mouthy little people like you".

That must have been the magic sentence because he said nothing and just walked off, up the stairs and to his room. I drove home in a pretty bad mood which was a shame because it was such a good night.

[Javlingames]

I had a brilliant night last night and will put the review in Good Gig/Bad Gig later but I thought I'd mention 1 guy who was there.
Same kind of thing as DJFoureyes, this guy was dancing to everything and then approached me...He looked younger than me and had a bit of attitude which was a shame because everyone else was really cool, appreciative and well behaved.

"Oi Son! Have you got Jocelyn Brown 'Somebody Elses Guy?"
"Yes, I have. I will try and get it on for you but I only have about 15 minutes left".
"Don't TRY mate, just bung it on!"
"I'll see what I can do for you ok"

He walks off with a grin on his face. I've already had 'Everybody needs somebody' cue'd up as the next track as the MD and another guy were dressed as the Blues Brothers.

Obviously Mr Donut who requested the Jocelyn Brown track was one of those typical guests that thinks that if they request something it should be played immediately - Wrong!
As the Blues Brothers started, everyone went mad for it and the atmosphere was great. Mr Donut walked through everyone dancing and came straight up to me again.
"Oi Son" (that was annoying me to start with)..."Where's my Jocelyn Brown track?"
"As I said, If I get time, I will play it for you. I have a lot of other requests to play that have come in before yours and I am running out of time to play them".
"Forget those...Come on, Chop Chop...chuck it on next".

By now I had a couple of songs left to play and I had now made up my mind that I was not going to play it because he was being a pain in the backside.
I had 2 requested songs that had come in earlier that were guaranteed floorfillers so I played them instead. I was under strict instructions to stop at 11.00pm by the organiser and also the hotel so there was no way I was going to upset them.

As the last song faded out and the lights went up, everyone clapped and cheered me and the MD asked if he could use my microphone. He thanked everyone, said he'd see them all in the morning for the meeting and then thanked me again and everyone clapped and cheered again...it was nice.
I started packing down the equipment and a number of the guests left the room to go to their rooms. A few people hung about including Mr Donut.

He started talking loudly and I could hear him moaning that I hadn't played his song for him. I didn't hear him call me a **** DJ but he was moaning out loud, obviously for my benefit. He was stood in front of the exit with 3 other guys and I needed to get out that way to load up the van. I was carrying an amp and said "Excuse me" so I could get past. They all moved and as I walked past them, Mr Donut said "Didn't play my ******** song did you!!". I ignored him and carried on and he shouted after me. I could hear him moaning again from my van.

As I went back to get more equipment, he stopped me and asked "Why didn't you play my song Son?".
"As I said, there were other requests before yours and I ran out of time".
"Not good enough!" he replied.
I'd had enough by now....I'd had a really good night, as had the guests but this dork was doing my head in.
"So, what do you want me to do about it?" I asked.
"It's a bit late now aint it Son"
"Well, what's with the grief?" I asked.."You look like you all had a great night so why moan about one song not being played when I have explained"
"Just jog off home Son, Go on...see ya" he said

I shook my head and said nothing. I was pretty narked by that last comment, especially coming from some dork that was giving it the large one in front of his mates/colleagues.
Anyway, I was in and out of the exit with equipment and had to ask "Excuse Me" every single time. Nobody said anything until I was taking the last bits out.
"All done then Son?" He asked...
"Yes mate, time to get home. I'm looking forward to having a nice cold one when I get in"
"A word of advice.." He said..."When someone asks you for a song in the future, play it for them or they may get upset".
I laughed and said "Thanks for the advice mate. I'll take that on board".
I walked away and heard him call me something under his breath.
"Excuse me?" I asked..."What was that?"
"Jog on mate" he replied..
Again, unbelievably I said nothing but just walked back to the van, shaking my head. I put the last bits in and then realised that I had left my coat inside. I walked back to the exit and the guy was closing the door. He saw me but closed it. I knocked on the door and he said "You'll have to walk round mate".
By now I was getting wound up. I was tired, sweaty and annoyed and it was chucking it down with rain.
I ran round to the front of the hotel and just as I got back to the room, he was walking out.
"Nice one, thanks mate!" I said sarcastically.
He just laughed. His mates shook their heads and walked on.
As he was on his own now, I gave him some back.
"You're a funny bloke aren't you" I said.
"Yeah son, and you're not!" he replied...."Off you go, see ya!".
"I'll be off in a second don't worry. I just need to grab my coat and then I'm gone".
"Nice one!" he replied.
"Don't get too upset about not hearing your song. It's a good song too but I just didn't have time to play it".
He laughed and started walking away and I thought that was it but once again he called me something as he walked off.
"Excuse me?" I asked.
"Are you deaf aswell Son?" he replied..."Go on, jog on home".
I was putting on my coat as he walked back towards me. Up until that moment I had been very chilled and had kept my cool. I never lost it properly with him as I was aware that I was still in the hotel. Everyone else had gone to their rooms.

"Give it a rest mate" I said..."Just leave the abuse and go to bed".
"You're lucky I'm in a good mood" he replied.
"No! YOU'RE lucky I'M in a good mood" I replied..."I don't normally tolerate mouthy little people like you".

That must have been the magic sentence because he said nothing and just walked off, up the stairs and to his room. I drove home in a pretty bad mood which was a shame because it was such a good night.

Bloody hell mate, what an idiot. Corporate events can be a nightmare for stuff like that, jumped up younger people who think they are the mutts nutts because they've been invited to a swish do. I do a lot of them and have to deal with many a 'corporate idiot'. You have to remember these people were probably bullied at school.

How would i have handled it? I think as soon as he called me 'son' on his first request, i would have corrected him by saying 'my names is gavin actually, nice to meet you' (shake his hand firmly). It takes the wind right out of their sales and brings them back down again. Then i would have said, 'il do my best to play it but dont hold your breath'. Just be very assertive with people like that and nip it in the bud straight away.

[Corabar Steve]

Last time somebody called me Son, I called him Dad in my reply.

He didn't do it again.

[Jonathan Ford]

Last time somebody called me Son, I called him Dad in my reply.

He didn't do it again.

The last time someone called me son, it WAS my Dad!!

Seriously, Gary, sounds like you did well to keep your cool. That situation could easily have escalated. What a tool!

[funkymook]

At such a small corporate event I'd have thought a quiet 'any more from you and your MD will be getting a complaint about your behaviour' would've shut him up.

[Ecstatic Events]

Personally I would of played it - It was of saved sooo much grief. Plus it's a banger. I would of found a way to play it (personally) Potentially a big finish for an 80's night.

What if this (plonker) guy send the organiser an email about the fracas? or even hints about the fact you two 'had words' ???

Good luck when you meet him again :)

[Shakermaker Promotions]

As I said, I only had limited time left. He asked me firstly when I had around 15 minutes left and I advised him and then he came back almost instantly and I said the same thing.
I had request slips on the tables that the organiser thought was a great idea. I had loads of requests and played nearly all of them which made the dance floor busy.

In the remaining time I had left, I played the Blues Brothers track because the MD and his colleague were dressed as the Blues Brothers. I also played New Order - Blue Monday which was the most requested song of the night and I played Michael Jackson - Thriller which was also requested quite a lot.

The organiser had requested on the itinery that the music be 'upbeat'. She wanted 80s classics, TV themes & One hit wonders during the meal. I kept to what she wanted and in my opinion, even though 'Somebody Elses Guy' is a great track, it was the wrong kind of track to fit into the last few tracks and as I said, both the organiser and the hotel were pretty strict on the finish time. It was my first time at the venue and I didn't want to take the mick. They were happy and asked for my details. I've had an email today from the organiser thanking me and she forwarded an email to me from the MD too who had thanked her for a great evening with great entertainment.
In my reply when I thanked them for booking me, I mentioned "the guy in the orange shirt" (Mr Donut). I simply said that he wasn't too happy that I didn't have time to play his song and was quite abusive so I told him where to go...she said, "Don't worry about it, you did the right thing". Whether the bloke is a known pain in the backside, who knows?

Mike, I'd have no quarms whatsoever if and when I meet 'him' again. At least he'll know where we stand and should he ask for Jocelyn Brown again, I'd be more than happy to play it for him......as long as he doesn't come up to me with attitude and in the last few minutes where it's impossible to play it.

Martin, totally right but as said already, it all happened in the last few minutes and didn't seem worth making a big deal about at the time.
The only time I had to say something over the microphone was when someone got hold of the Space Hopper and started kicking it around. I was worried about the equipment and mentioned it but one of the staff more or less got in there at the same time.

I don't want this to distract from what a good night it was. It was enjoyable for a number of reasons including the fact that more work will come from it both corporate and private.

[NKR]

I am surprised at the restraint many have shown here.

I have no issue tackling idiots head on.

Second excuse me would have been a flight case straight through them!

[Shakermaker Promotions]

Years ago, maybe I'd have done the same mate but I am more chilled out these days, especially when I am working and representing my business.
Out of work, totally different story. I won't take any crap off anyone..simple as that.

I don't do it to others so I don't expect it to be done to me.

[NKR]

Years ago, maybe I'd have done the same mate but I am more chilled out these days, especially when I am working and representing my business.
Out of work, totally different story. I won't take any crap off anyone..simple as that.

I don't do it to others so I don't expect it to be done to me.

I am just not prepared to take it.

Last year we had a drunken idiot who kept leaning back on the desk. He was tapped on the shoulder twice and asked not to do it. He continued.

Third time was a very firm push in the back of the head. He stumpled forward, tripped over someone dancing and sprawled on the dancefloor.

I shrugged at him as he got up. Soon buggered off and sat down.

Bullys need bullying.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

I am just not prepared to take it.

Last year we had a drunken idiot who kept leaning back on the desk. He was tapped on the shoulder twice and asked not to do it. He continued.

Third time was a very firm push in the back of the head. He stumpled forward, tripped over someone dancing and sprawled on the dancefloor.

I shrugged at him as he got up. Soon buggered off and sat down.

Bullys need bullying.

Sorry, but not good business practise and more than likely will get you a smack round the gob at some point.

[Ecstatic Events]

Yes but if you would of played the track, the night would of gone without hitch and probably wouldn't of left a sour taste in your mouth. I know your personal taste in 80's Gary and Jocelyn Brown it certainly isn't.. IMO it's an upbeat track and IF it were me in that situation, I would of played it. For the utter :Censored::Censored::Censored::Censored::Censored: in the orange shirt. You wouldn't of had to put up with any nonsense if you did :)

My god we have to put up with some right idiots. That want their requests played immediately. 9 time out of 10 they are awful requests. Jocelyn Brown was a good shout IMO and would of saved you the drama.

[Shakermaker Promotions]

Mike, with respect mate, you don't know what my taste in the 80s is at all.
You've seen me do it once I think?
I was going clubbing when the likes of Jocelyn Brown, Luther Vandross, Fatback Band and all those great tunes were filling the dance floors and I was having a boogie to them back then too.

It's obvious we aren't going to agree on this one.
I guess you had to be there!
Think about it, what do you do?
Do you play the songs that have been requested the most and have been requested for certain people with the time you have left OR do you play a song for someone that has come up with attitude when everyone else has been absolutely spot on and very complimentary all evening?
I did what I thought was best.

He spoke to me like I was something on the bottom of his shoe when he requested it first time. He gave me a few minutes and then came back and continued so I thought "Sod you mate!". Honestly, IF I had of had more time then yes, I would have more than likely played it for him because I don't want any confrontation at the end of the day.

His mouthing off in front of a couple of his mates / colleagues was when everything had finished and most of the people had left the room. There was no need for him to continue going on about it so it was the booze that was making him 'brave'. There's only so much laughing off you can do before you retaliate and I didn't even retaliate did I?

Sometimes I'd like to be able to be like I used to be and not take any of it and ask no questions, just give it back to them twice as hard but that's not me anymore.

[NKR]

Sorry, but not good business practise and more than likely will get you a smack round the gob at some point.

So be it, but I am not prepared to take abuse off people.

A smack in the gob I can take as that will result in the police being called and a night down the nick for someone.

Thankfully we select our clients carefully and have very few problems at all. In fact never had a problem on a booking we have taken directly, the limited instances have been agency work.

The two man team also helps as I think its a bit harder to be brave against two blokes.

[Corabar Steve]

Did you play all of Blue Monday Gary?

[Mark Wild]

I am just not prepared to take it.

Last year we had a drunken idiot who kept leaning back on the desk. He was tapped on the shoulder twice and asked not to do it. He continued.

Third time was a very firm push in the back of the head. He stumpled forward, tripped over someone dancing and sprawled on the dancefloor.

I shrugged at him as he got up. Soon buggered off and sat down.

Bullys need bullying.

Do you purposely mean to come across as a complete tool on here or does it just come naturally? Couldn't you have just had a word with him? After all he's just merry and probably has no concept of what he's doing. I for one certainly wouldn't have been happy with your reaction, especially if that was my Dad or Grandad you'd firmly pushed in the back of the head, not to mention the people you pushed him towards who were dancing.

Seems there's one bully in that situation and it isn't the drunken idiot as you call him ;)

[Ecstatic Events]

Did you play all of Blue Monday Gary?

Precisely - I would say this was more your personal taste re: the 80's - Electronic 80's - and I think you might be Gary Numans Number 1 fan - I have had a small insight into your personal tastes... Not that it means anything.

End of the day Gary. If this request came from a stunning looking woman with a big chest - You would of played it.

All my comments are my opinion - thats it - Nothing personal against you - It's just you seem to have endless dramas when you're out working going by some of your reviews. People seem to just want to argue with you :zip:

[DeckstarDeluxe]

Do you purposely mean to come across as a complete tool on here or does it just come naturally? Couldn't you have just had a word with him? After all he's just merry and probably has no concept of what he's doing. I for one certainly wouldn't have been happy with your reaction, especially if that was my Dad or Grandad you'd firmly pushed in the back of the head, not to mention the people you pushed him towards who were dancing.

Seems there's one bully in that situation and it isn't the drunken idiot as you call him ;)

+1

Just asking for trouble and it comes across as your looking for a fight yourself.

[Excalibur]

Last time somebody called me Son, I called him Dad in my reply.

Nobody's called me Son at a gig for over ten years. Grandad, yes. Son, no. :cry: :cry: :cry:


Personally I would of played it -

No way. That's rewarding impolite and boorish behaviour. The sooner these :muppet:s realise that you catch more wasps with jam than vinegar, the better.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Seems there's one bully in that situation and it isn't the drunken idiot as you call him ;)

Agreed.

[Stu]

This is one of many reasons I always* work in a 2 man team on mobile gigs.

It's especially bad at Christmas time, always some douche trying to show off and be brave in front of his work mates.

New Years Eve 2010 - 2011 we had a full on brawl with about 20 people going for it square in the middle of the dance floor! Proper heavy stuff, one guy got rugby tackled into an electric storage heater; smashed it clean off the wall and sparks started flying out the destroyed electrical supply!

As we were a two man team, we were able to kill the music and stand in front of the deckstand "guiding" people away from the kit. No violence was directed at us on this occasion, but if there was just me on my own i'm not sure i'd of been so quick to jump in front of my kit.





*well, 99% of the time.

[Shakermaker Promotions]

Well, been out this evening seeing customers and I come back to see some (in my opinion), interesting comments...

Firstly Steve, Did I play all of Blue Monday?
I was waiting for someone to ask that question. As I didn't have much time left to play stuff, I actually picked the 1988 version. As soon as I pressed the play button I expected someone to turn their nose up because it wasn't the original but they didn't.....thankfully.


Precisely - I would say this was more your personal taste re: the 80's - Electronic 80's - and I think you might be Gary Numans Number 1 fan - I have had a small insight into your personal tastes... Not that it means anything.

End of the day Gary. If this request came from a stunning looking woman with a big chest - You would of played it.

All my comments are my opinion - thats it - Nothing personal against you - It's just you seem to have endless dramas when you're out working going by some of your reviews. People seem to just want to argue with you :zip:

You're right in that my preference is for the Electronic 80s, that's a definite but it doesn't mean that I don't know any other genres in that era / decade. Not sure about Gary Numans Number 1 fan though mate - probably the ONLY one ;) but you're right, it doesn't mean anything.

I thought the comment about the stunning looking woman with the big chest was laughable though Mike....To be totally honest with you, I personally am not that shallow. Maybe others are but not me I'm afraid....mind you, the organiser wasn't bad ;)

You're right again, your comments are your opinion and you're welcome to them just as I am welcome to mine and everyone else is welcome to theirs. I don't really care whether there is anything personal intended in them, doesn't bother me in the slightest anymore.
Remember, you said the other week whilst we were on another subject that "Life is too short" and that's very true.

I would much rather keep the MD of the company happy and the organiser and majority of the guests happy too by playing what had already been requested and finish on time than bow down to some dork because he thinks he is 'Da Man'.

As for the 'Drama', I'm just honest in my reviews, simple as that. I wish more people would be honest in their reviews too.

[Ecstatic Events]

I thought the comment about the stunning looking woman with the big chest was laughable though Mike....To be totally honest with you, I personally am not that shallow. Maybe others are but not me I'm afraid....mind you, the organiser wasn't bad ;)

Ha Ha Ha - You're joking right??? Some of the conversations we have had after gigs is YOU talking about the quality of the crumpet... AND the length of the skirts. Not saying you're shallow or anything.

:D :D :D :D :D

[Shakermaker Promotions]

Are YOU joking?
Seriously Mike, are you taking the...er....Mick?

[Ecstatic Events]

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[NKR]

Do you purposely mean to come across as a complete tool on here or does it just come naturally? Couldn't you have just had a word with him? After all he's just merry and probably has no concept of what he's doing. I for one certainly wouldn't have been happy with your reaction, especially if that was my Dad or Grandad you'd firmly pushed in the back of the head, not to mention the people you pushed him towards who were dancing.

Seems there's one bully in that situation and it isn't the drunken idiot as you call him ;)


+1

Just asking for trouble and it comes across as your looking for a fight yourself.


Agreed.

The guy was a a tool. He had been asked politely twice not to do it and did the usual chavy yeah whatever thing, so got what was coming. He wasn't someone dad, someones grandad, he was a tool who had a what you gonna do about it attitude. So I did something about it.

Treat me that way I treat you that way. You want to get walked on and hide behind it being professional by all means do. I won't, I will stick up for myself.

Anyway I haven't been on here for a while and I think its probably time to bow out anyway.

[Shakermaker Promotions]

OOps....

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:rofl: :rofl:

[DazzyD]

I am surprised at the restraint many have shown here.

I have no issue tackling idiots head on.

Second excuse me would have been a flight case straight through them!

I've had a couple of occasions where I've been nose to nose with idiots but they've always backed down first. However, one show I did last year - a works party/joint birthday for a girl that had turned 30 and was leaving the company and leaving the area. I was playing her track and her, her fiance and nearly everyone one else in the room was dancing. Then this drunken idiot came up and demanded to be given the mic so he could say a few words. I told him he'd have to wait as I was playing her song. He put his arm around my shoulder and said no, he wanted the mic now. Again, I said he could say a few words but not during their song. His arm went from my shoulder to drape around my neck. He was about to say something else but I jumped in and told him to take his hand away. He said "listen" but, again, I cut in and told him for a second time to move him arm. He said "listen to me" and I then said "No, you listen to me. Take your arm off me now or I'll break it". Some may think that was a bit harsh but he practically had me in a head lock and I could have been seconds away from a broken neck. He got the message and moved his arm. He said he didn't want any trouble and then walked away. I played a few songs then I let him have the mic to say his few words as he was a friend and colleague of the girl. He started off quite well but then started to swear and then directed some major abuse at the girl's fiance so I turned his mic off. He then started swearing at me telling me to turn it back on. I refused. When his abuse got worse, I turned the mic up quite loud and everyone from the bar next door came running in to the room. The manager told him to give me the mic back, get his coat and get out. At the end of the night, they allowed him back in as he wanted to apologise to me and to the girl. He said sorry and that he hoped he hadn't spoiled everyone's night. Most people said "No problem" and "get yourself off home and sleep it off". However, one lad from the bar shouted "It's not alright. You've spoilt that poor girl's party. Now :Censored: off and don't come back!". Well, at least someone told it as it was!!


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No way. That's rewarding impolite and boorish behaviour. The sooner these :muppet:s realise that you catch more wasps with jam than vinegar, the better.

Totally agree. Being a pillock would get you nowhere with me. Being polite with me opens doors!


This is one of many reasons I always* work in a 2 man team on mobile gigs.

It's especially bad at Christmas time, always some douche trying to show off and be brave in front of his work mates.

New Years Eve 2010 - 2011 we had a full on brawl with about 20 people going for it square in the middle of the dance floor! Proper heavy stuff, one guy got rugby tackled into an electric storage heater; smashed it clean off the wall and sparks started flying out the destroyed electrical supply!

As we were a two man team, we were able to kill the music and stand in front of the deckstand "guiding" people away from the kit. No violence was directed at us on this occasion, but if there was just me on my own i'm not sure i'd of been so quick to jump in front of my kit.

*well, 99% of the time.

I've seen loads of mass fights at weddings but nothing ever directed towards us. I think I'm immune to the violence now!

[Shakermaker Promotions]

Just for Mike (seeing as he likes my 'Dramas') - Only joking Mike!

DazzyD, I know what you mean....I posted this incident from last Christmas a while back.
There was a guy at one of the Christmas Parties I was doing who was dancing to almost everything I played and he was loving it by the looks of it. (He was also sweating like a pig and looked like he was going to faint at one point!). Anyway, a couple of older ladies came over and asked if I could play some songs for them so I chucked on some 70s stuff if I remember correctly?
The dancing guy came over to me. I didn't know he was there at the time and he slapped me on the shoulder quite hard. It surprised me but I also didn't like it and said "Excuse me, do you mind?". He laughed and did it again so I said "Can you stop slapping me please". It was him doing that kind of thing that narked me straight away as I am sure it would nark anyone. He went on to moan about the music being rubbish, even though the dance floor was packed and he asked me to play something better. When I asked what he suggested I play, he was stuck. He just said "Something better than this" or "Not this!" (I can't remember).

I thought that was that but I was approached by a member of staff shortly after who told me that he had moaned about me being aggressive and thugish towards him!! All I said was "Excuse me...." because he'd slapped me on the shoulder twice. If he'd had done that outside of work, I would have slapped him back twice as hard I can tell you.
Anyway, I saw his boss at reception towards the end of the night and she said that he was just drunk and that was it.

[DJ Jules]

I thought the comment about the stunning looking woman with the big chest was laughable though Mike....To be totally honest with you, I personally am not that shallow. Maybe others are but not me I'm afraid....mind you, the organiser wasn't bad ;)

The last time a stunning looking woman with a big chest came up to me, pressed her chest against me and asked for a request, I didn't play it....


Mostly because I couldn't remember anything at all that she'd said :D


Julian

[Ecstatic Events]

Just for Mike (seeing as he likes my 'Dramas') - Only joking Mike!

DazzyD, I know what you mean....I posted this incident from last Christmas a while back.
There was a guy at one of the Christmas Parties I was doing who was dancing to almost everything I played and he was loving it by the looks of it. (He was also sweating like a pig and looked like he was going to faint at one point!). Anyway, a couple of older ladies came over and asked if I could play some songs for them so I chucked on some 70s stuff if I remember correctly?
The dancing guy came over to me. I didn't know he was there at the time and he slapped me on the shoulder quite hard. It surprised me but I also didn't like it and said "Excuse me, do you mind?". He laughed and did it again so I said "Can you stop slapping me please". It was him doing that kind of thing that narked me straight away as I am sure it would nark anyone. He went on to moan about the music being rubbish, even though the dance floor was packed and he asked me to play something better. When I asked what he suggested I play, he was stuck. He just said "Something better than this" or "Not this!" (I can't remember).

I thought that was that but I was approached by a member of staff shortly after who told me that he had moaned about me being aggressive and thugish towards him!! All I said was "Excuse me...." because he'd slapped me on the shoulder twice. If he'd had done that outside of work, I would have slapped him back twice as hard I can tell you.
Anyway, I saw his boss at reception towards the end of the night and she said that he was just drunk and that was it.

Oh dear - the only drama I have ever had was with an 80 year old man and you know all about that Gary...

To cut a long story short. It was a NYE event and I was asked to play Chris De Burgh, Lady in Red during peak time party. I never played it.

This guy was also part of a larger table sat right next to an RCF so there were constant requests to 'turn it down' the DANCING guest kept asking why the volume was so low... lose, lose situation

Anyhow, whilst packing down he confronted me about the request and asked me why a) I didnt play his request b) I kept creeping the volume back up.

He didnt listen to my response and repeatedly called me 'arrogant' so I stood up to the table and made them aware I was unhappy he was calling me arrogant as I had given up my NYE to 'try' and entertain these people. I'd had a few drinks and just snapped. I wasn't rude, just direct and evidently :Censored::Censored::Censored::Censored:ed off ;)

In hindsight I should of bopped him on the nose :eek:

They wrote a letter of complaint and EVERYTHING.

[Ecstatic Events]

Just for Mike (seeing as he likes my 'Dramas') - Only joking Mike!

More drama than Eastenders at your gigs, and I'm not joking ;)

[Shakermaker Promotions]

More drama than Eastenders at your gigs, and I'm not joking ;)

I'll let you have the last word then Mike and leave it there I guess for the sake of the forum ;)
(By the way, yes...I know about the old guy. Didn't know he was 80 but I've dealt with him in the past year and he was good as gold and his recollection of that NYE was different to yours but hey ho, it's the past now eh ;) )

[funkymook]

I'm going to start calling you two George and Mildred!

[Corabar Steve]

I'm not prepared to let this thread turn into another episode of the Mike & Gary show. Either you two BOTH get over your obvious issues or stop posting.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

I'm going to start calling you two George and Mildred!

Bungle and Zippy might be more appropriate...:D