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salford1986
04-07-2012, 11:20 PM
Hello
What do you this of the behringer eurorack fx mixer to the mackie pro fx range mixer, mackie is 199 quid new and looks like the one I want cause I have a mackie mytek 210 speakers which are awesome. Would you say the mackie will have better sound quality than behringer eurorack?
DJ Jules
05-07-2012, 07:05 AM
Hello
What do you this of the behringer eurorack fx mixer to the mackie pro fx range mixer, mackie is 199 quid new and looks like the one I want cause I have a mackie mytek 210 speakers which are awesome. Would you say the mackie will have better sound quality than behringer eurorack?
I don't know about sound quality, but it'll definitely have better build quality. I've got the Mackie ProFX12 and it's solid as a rock. My only criticism of it is that the headphone channel is wired to the master out and isn't switchable to the Aux bus or PFL so you can't listen to the channels without putting them through the master out!
In hindsight I probably would have spent a little more and gone for the Yamaha (because it has the ability to listen pre-fade and also has compressors built into some of the channels). Unfortunately the one with FX (http://www.dv247.com/mixers/yamaha-mw12cx-usb-mixing-studio-mixer--40681) is probably more than you want to pay (£290).
Julian
Jonny Boy
05-07-2012, 10:36 AM
I don't know about sound quality, but it'll definitely have better build quality. I've got the Mackie ProFX12 and it's solid as a rock. My only criticism of it is that the headphone channel is wired to the master out and isn't switchable to the Aux bus or PFL so you can't listen to the channels without putting them through the master out!
Julian
My money always on the Mackie first.
Agree with Jules. I have the smaller predecessor - the Mackie DFX6. Rock solid build and excellent sound quality. Ran same playout and speakers via a friend's Behringer desk and the sound was not a full/clear, to my ears anyway.
Further to Jules' point, I have patched around the lack of PFL by using the Monitor jack out - hence put channel slider down and mon knob up you can PFL the channel. It's mono out, but I used a stereo jack adaptor so sound comes out both sides of my headphones (2x composite mono, rather than defined L+R).
DJ Jules
05-07-2012, 11:46 AM
My money always on the Mackie first.
Agree with Jules. I have the smaller predecessor - the Mackie DFX6. Rock solid build and excellent sound quality. Ran same playout and speakers via a friend's Behringer desk and the sound was not a full/clear, to my ears anyway.
Further to Jules' point, I have patched around the lack of PFL by using the Monitor jack out - hence put channel slider down and mon knob up you can PFL the channel. It's mono out, but I used a stereo jack adaptor so sound comes out both sides of my headphones (2x composite mono, rather than defined L+R).
I do a regular club night where their main mixer is a Berry, but it's missing half of it's fader knobs and the master faders crackle and stutter as well. So, I've been taking my Mackie mixer and a W-Audio PSR8a to plug into the Aux output and using it as Jonny says above - but the majority of the time I don't need PFL anyway as I'm plugging either a Numark Mixtrack Pro into it which uses a digital mixer and has it's own headphone output.
Julian
Glenski
05-07-2012, 12:32 PM
I currently use a Behringer Europower PMP1680S for my Karaoke gigs and i love it and the sound is excellent for what i do using the dual FX engines.
I cannot fault the Behringer at al and have used many Behringer products. desks over the years and have been 100% happy with the build quality and durability and sound :)
They maybe cheaper than other brands [Pay for name really] but they are all well built and constructed in my eyes.
I run my Behringer through various PAs dependant on venue...
Peavey Pro 15s
Skytec 10"
Superlux 12" Actives
And recently and for the next nine weeks for my Pub Idol Karaoke comp - a KV2 Sound System :)
Thank you
DazzyD
05-07-2012, 01:14 PM
I had a look at the Mackie mixer at Disco World a couple of months ago and it would fit in perfectly with what I'm trying to do, especially now that the funds have finally been made available to me to go active. The mixer felt sturdy and the sliders felt smooth which put it firmly on my list of options. However, the model I looked at seemed to be lacking in inputs so I might need to look at some of the bigger models. I'll be (hopefully!) pairing it with a couple of active RCF speakers to create a good sounding system.
DJ Jules
05-07-2012, 07:55 PM
I cannot fault the Behringer at al and have used many Behringer products. desks over the years and have been 100% happy with the build quality and durability and sound :)
I'm going to have to take a photo of the one at the club when I'm there next weekend - you wouldn't believe the state of it unless you saw it. I've been told by other DJ's that it has started randomly cutting out now too....
The powered mixers are probably different, but the cheaper Berry mixers with FX are known for getting hot enough to melt the carpet off your deckstand shelf (kind of like the Denon's :D ) and are prone to failure due to overheating.
Julian
Retrodisco
05-07-2012, 07:59 PM
A Berry is fine for mobile work, but for club work it's a hard life so no wonder it's knackered, it's the wrong piece of kit for the job.
salford1986
06-07-2012, 09:06 AM
Well I'm saying this because iv had a behringer which is out of warranty and the power went... Fuse kept blowing completely dead.. Took it to electric shop he charged 60 quid I said may aswell keep it! People say they are great but I think your lucky it's not done the same to you, you pay for what you get.
Jonny Boy
06-07-2012, 10:30 AM
A Berry is fine for mobile work, but for club work it's a hard life so no wonder it's knackered, it's the wrong piece of kit for the job.
Also depends on how heavily it'll get used for mobile work too IMO.. the knocks & wear and tear of transport & relocation even before use...
If Karaoke is an occasional part of what you do then the Behri should do you fine: does what it says on the tin.
I have other Behri gear for softer and less frequent work - it's fit for purpose and doesn't sound cheap or awful....that's the main rule of thumb. Any "side-by-side" comparisons on sound quality are often a matter of preference/taste anyway.*
*like some people rave about Florence & Machine, but I think she just sounds like some shrieky banshee bint. :rolleyes:
Well I'm saying this because iv had a behringer which is out of warranty and the power went... Fuse kept blowing completely dead.. Took it to electric shop he charged 60 quid I said may aswell keep it! People say they are great but I think your lucky it's not done the same to you, you pay for what you get.
Just saw this.... in which case: apply "caveat emptor". :p
Plus I think the ProFX also has USB in? :)
DJ Jules
06-07-2012, 12:28 PM
Plus I think the ProFX also has USB in? :)
Yup, it does, and it works very well.
Julian
Glenski
06-07-2012, 12:36 PM
To add ...
My Behringer PMP1680S is out with me 5/6/7 nights a week running on avg for 4 hrs a time :)
I'm very happy with it and what it does for my shows :)
Thank you
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