What would you do?

[STEVE HANLEY]

Did a wedding last night. Was paid fully upfront weeks in advance:):):) The B&G booked me from 7 until midnight. Around 8pm I went and spoke to the manageress (Who was a right stroppy cow. From the moment we arrived there. :muppet:) and asked her if she wanted us to call last orders and if so what time? To which she informed me 10:45pm would be sufficient:omg:

I then informed her that the B&G had booked me until midnight. To which she repiled "Not my problem we're only booked until 11pm and want you out of the building by midnight." I then went and informed the B&G about what the manageress had told me. I think you can imagine what their reaction to that was. Any way to cut a long story (Spandau Ballet style:D) short. After much toing and froing between B&G and management we finished at 11:10pm. We were prepared to see our part of the contract through, but still I felt for the B&G. Immediate thoughts were "Typical the DJ gets screwed again" but I felt I had to offer them some cash back. Cos I felt I had short changed them. They informed me no chance . Mary and I had done a superb job and it wasn't our fault. At least the offer was there. Am I being too soft?........As in the title thread?????

[Shaun]

I wouldn't have offered, but fair play to you for doing so. :)

I remember a wedding I did getting stopped by the venue half an hour or so after the first dance (due to a very violent fight breaking out). Whilst I felt bad for the bride, I packed up and headed home with my full fee in my pocket. I did feel bad for the bride but sentiment doesn't pay the bills or put food on the table.

[DeckstarDeluxe]

No chance, if the venue have told them they could of had entertainment until midnight and then changed their minds then get the refund from the venue. You haven't done anything wrong here....

[STEVE HANLEY]

I wouldn't have offered, but fair play to you for doing so. :)

I remember a wedding I did getting stopped by the venue half an hour or so after the first dance (due to a very violent fight breaking out). Whilst I felt bad for the bride, I packed up and headed home with my full fee in my pocket. I did feel bad for the bride but sentiment doesn't pay the bills or put food on the table.


No chance, if the venue have told them they could of had entertainment until midnight and then changed their minds then get the refund from the venue. You haven't done anything wrong here....

Thanks Shaun/Neil

We just felt so sorry for the B&G. At least if the offer was there, then they couldn't throw that back at us.

[Andy Collins]

Thanks Shaun/Neil

We just felt so sorry for the B&G. At least if the offer was there, then they couldn't throw that back at us.

This is a classic case of the manageress shouldn't be in the job she is in - "hospitality" ummmm

Whilst it is easy to feel sorry for the bride and groom, remember that the problem wasn't with you it was with the venue - so if anyone should refund then that would clearly lie with the venue as it is them who wanted to finish earlier then possibly agreed.

However, you may want to change the way you word your contracts to avoid any confusion in the future. I put on mine from 7 not exceeding midnight. That way if it finishes anytime before midnight then i'm covered.

You did a good job though and the bride and groom were happy with you - so don't worry about it - it's the venue that will ultimately loose when word gets out!

[hadyn]

This is a classic case of the manageress shouldn't be in the job she is in - "hospitality" ummmm

Whilst it is easy to feel sorry for the bride and groom, remember that the problem wasn't with you it was with the venue - so if anyone should refund then that would clearly lie with the venue as it is them who wanted to finish earlier then possibly agreed.

However, you may want to change the way you word your contracts to avoid any confusion in the future. I put on mine from 7 not exceeding midnight. That way if it finishes anytime before midnight then i'm covered.

You did a good job though and the bride and groom were happy with you - so don't worry about it - it's the venue that will ultimately loose when word gets out!

This is a very good point and has made me revisit my contract and check the wording

[Excalibur]

Steve, you won't be surprised to find that I too have seen this, and more than once. I've never felt the urge to offer a refund, since I ( or in this cas, you and Mary ) have provided a service to the best of your abiities. The fact that the venue curtailed your efforts is beyond your control. Not your problem, you were prepared to fulfill your duties, the venue didn't allow you to.

[DazzyD]

I've had this situation a number of times in the past but for the last 5 years or so as soon as I get to the venue I seek out the manager/ess and confirm the times. Sometimes these conflicts are due to genuine mistakes or misunderstandings between the client and venue and, sometimes, it's the client at fault as they've just assumed that the venue will allow the DJ to go on that late. I always tell clients up front to confirm everything with the venue before the event, getting it in writing if possible, as I won't be responsible for any decision by the venue to end the night prior to the time I'm booked until. This usually does the trick!

[ppentertainments]

I have had this happen a few times, so pack up at the finish time and go basically.

Good on you for the offer though Steve, and I think the decision would rest on how you quote for a job. This is one of the reasons I never quote per hour - my quotes are all the same until 1am (which covers 99.9% of my bookings) so whether they finish at 10pm or 1am the fee is the same. This also negates the question being asked if starting later for any reason.

Funnily enough I have just taking a booking for 7pm -930pm and I quoted my usual fee, they did ask if there was any discount for the shortened time, but after my explaniation were fine and went ahead and booked.

[CRAZY K]

I put on mine from 7 not exceeding midnight. That way if it finishes anytime before midnight then i'm covered.
You did a good job though and the bride and groom were happy with you - so don't worry about it - it's the venue that will ultimately loose when word gets

Same here--generally I have a turnout charge for the evening---typically 7pm to 12pm--- no reductions for less hours---so an early finish makes no difference to my charges.

No dont feel bad--cuts out the need for them to tip you for a great night:D

As has been mentioned you might want to change your T and Cs---also I see the old chesnut--you have to be out by......you might want to cover that in your T and Cs as well.

I had an early finish in Yorkshire this year--finished an hour before the time I was booked---however they had persuaded me to start an hour earlier for no extra charge--I decided to bite the bullet---what goes round comes round eh?

[Creature]

Steve - this has happened to me a few times and like you felt wrotten for the bride n groom, and like you offered to refund part of the fee. But all have refused as they all said its not your problem.

Like a few on here I dj for a living (altho currently not working to berivemnent) but I have plenty of wedding bookings for next year most coming from the above bookings, so swings n round abouts i think.

But i can also understand the others who say they wouldnt offer a refund ! but I am not that hard that I could do that, the guilt would be nagging at me

[Mister Musicman]

I seem to get just the opposite, they usually try to blag me for extra and get more than they have agreed to pay for. It has happened only a couple of times in the past 25 years, so not bad going and I don't consider this to be a general problem.

Your generous offer would be exactly the same as my response ... good on yer!

[djdave01]

ive never had a wedding end so early but i did have a charity night finish as 9pm as only 10 people had shown up.

as i always do charity events, i reduced the normal rate by £20. When the 'party' ended i was asked if i could reduce the bill further. I agreed a further £20 off but got moaned at by several people for charging anything at all.

I now always advise the client that charity events will be charged as normal, even if no one shows up or they get cancelled at the last minute.

Dave

[CRAZY K]

I agreed a further £20 off but got moaned at by several people for charging anything at all.

Dave

They will be the ones who dont understand they should arrange proper sponsorship before the event so that you could be paid properly.

People need to get their heads round this---trouble is its easier to keep asking for discounts instead of the hard work involved in getting proper sponsorship.

I did one of these in the Summer for a very Professional and organised Charity--they did exactly what I describe above---my fee was never queried or the usual corny--do you give a discount:rolleyes:



I do my bit for local charity and am offended by people suggesting I work for nothing or a discount.