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djdm
21-11-2012, 07:19 PM
hi anyone heard this company they advertise on gumtree i applied looking for 3 dates to fill in december as got big contract in mayfair as i said applied and sent email back saying contact us which i did and said job gone told to check out job page
later that day they advertise a job on gumtree i apply as said but this time they want £29.99 for 6 months/ £229 for lifetime the word con springs to mind
any one heard this before

Excalibur
21-11-2012, 07:45 PM
Re Megamix Events, sorry I have no idea. Daniel, may I urge you to pop across to the Newbies section and introduce yourself. It helps us get an idea of who we're conversing with. I notice you offered to cover a gig for someone, thanks for that, but very few of us are likely to pass work on to people we don't know at all, so you can see why introducing yourself is a good idea. Thanks.

megamixevents
21-11-2012, 08:41 PM
hi anyone heard this company they advertise on gumtree i applied looking for 3 dates to fill in december as got big contract in mayfair as i said applied and sent email back saying contact us which i did and said job gone told to check out job page
later that day they advertise a job on gumtree i apply as said but this time they want £29.99 for 6 months/ £229 for lifetime the word con springs to mind
any one heard this before

Hello DJDM,

Thank you for your message here, I'm not actually sure where you have this 'Mayfair Contract' information from, if you could please enlighten me or provide some evidence to me directly [email protected] or I would be happy for you to share for everyone else to see on this forum.

In regards to the new payment option under the job section, your quite right! Today we have introduced a new system which guarantees anyone who applies for a DJ position to receive at least one gig within there own registration period. So for example if you pay for 6 months at £29.99, this will ensure we process relevant CRB checks, training, general administration, and gives us the opportunity to check references etc.

If however you do not receive at least one gig at £200.00 or more within the period, we will refund every penny back to you. All our DJ's throughout London receive text messages with gigs and the first one to respond will get the gig.

Any profit we do make from our fees above is fully ploughed back into advertising, which in turn increases the chances of more bookings.

If however we feel any application we do receive isn't quite right for us, then any money paid will be refunded within 2-12 hours.

I hope this helps.

DazzyD
21-11-2012, 11:21 PM
I have always been told to be extremely cautious of anyone promising to provide work for an up-front fee. Any agent worth his (or her) salt will add you to their books and then take a percentage (or flat fee) from the fee for any work they then give you. I've dealt with several agents over the years and have never been asked to pay upfront for any work provided by them. Likewise, if this company is an employer, as opposed to an entertainment agency, then taking a fee upfront sounds even worse as employers shouldn't be charging their staff to work for them.

If, on the other hand, this is simply an advertising avenue (like MDD, UK-Disco, NAD, etc.) then I can see the reason for the fee. However, promising refunds if work is not forthcoming is, whilst perhaps done with the best intentions, a very dangerous practice especially if the company folds then it has more creditors to pay back than it may have needed to have. These online advertising opportunities, like any other form of advertising, is a gamble on behalf of the advertiser. Sometimes you win, sometimes you don't but you wouldn't expect to claim a refund of your advertising costs.

Sorry if these comments sound negative, and perhaps I haven't got the full jist of the circumstances here, but, from what I can gather, this seems like awfully dangerous ground to me.

Update:

I've just read that post again. So, you can't really guarantee anyone any work if all your DJs get details of the gig and it goes to the first one to respond. That sounds like fastest finger first as opposed to actually matching the skills of the DJ to the requirements of the client. If I needed to get more work, without the advertising issues, I think I would rather join the books of a traditional agent, who doesn't charge an upfront free and knows who is best suited to meet the client's needs rather than just giving out bookings as a prize for the winner of a race.

megamixevents
22-11-2012, 01:21 AM
I have always been told to be extremely cautious of anyone promising to provide work for an up-front fee. Any agent worth his (or her) salt will add you to their books and then take a percentage (or flat fee) from the fee for any work they then give you. I've dealt with several agents over the years and have never been asked to pay upfront for any work provided by them. Likewise, if this company is an employer, as opposed to an entertainment agency, then taking a fee upfront sounds even worse as employers shouldn't be charging their staff to work for them.

If, on the other hand, this is simply an advertising avenue (like MDD, UK-Disco, NAD, etc.) then I can see the reason for the fee. However, promising refunds if work is not forthcoming is, whilst perhaps done with the best intentions, a very dangerous practice especially if the company folds then it has more creditors to pay back than it may have needed to have. These online advertising opportunities, like any other form of advertising, is a gamble on behalf of the advertiser. Sometimes you win, sometimes you don't but you wouldn't expect to claim a refund of your advertising costs.

Sorry if these comments sound negative, and perhaps I haven't got the full jist of the circumstances here, but, from what I can gather, this seems like awfully dangerous ground to me.

Update:

I've just read that post again. So, you can't really guarantee anyone any work if all your DJs get details of the gig and it goes to the first one to respond. That sounds like fastest finger first as opposed to actually matching the skills of the DJ to the requirements of the client. If I needed to get more work, without the advertising issues, I think I would rather join the books of a traditional agent, who doesn't charge an upfront free and knows who is best suited to meet the client's needs rather than just giving out bookings as a prize for the winner of a race.

Text messages will only be sent to DJ's to meet a strict code for each client with specific skills and music knowledge, for example if a client wishes to have a 30th birthday with decks, house music, and the latest dance tunes those DJ's will be selected who are suitable.

As clearly stated on our new jobs page we explain exactly what the payment is spent on, this includes: CRB checks, reference checks, a small contribution to our advertising fees and in house training. This is a brand new concept which will only improve the professionalism of the mobile disco industry, these charges are now made from many different industries such as social care work, media, and art.

There is no shortage of DJ's who are desperate to get into this field of freelance work, and this is our opportunity to select only the best with an in depth application and vetting process.

ajm
22-11-2012, 03:36 PM
£29.99 would not cover the cost of a CRB Check (£44), plus the cost of reference checks, and a small contribution to advertising fees and in house training.

Modertor Edit:

A) Rule 16.

B) Unusure of what relevance Jimmy Saville has to this thread. Please keep to topic.

Corabar Steve
22-11-2012, 03:48 PM
£29.99 would not cover the cost of a CRB Check (£44)
I must have missed the bit where he says it's an enhanced check. Standard CRB is £26.

ajm
22-11-2012, 03:56 PM
I must have missed the bit where he says it's an enhanced check. Standard CRB is £26.

I would have thought if you are going to the trouble of getting a crb check then of course it would need to be enhanced unless you were going to stipulate no under 18's, or vulnerable adults.

ajm
22-11-2012, 04:40 PM
The relevence of Jimmy Saville was to question the effectiveness of crb checks, as he was the most trusted dj in the country and would have cleared any crb check. I have noticed plenty of other threads going of topic.

megamixevents
22-11-2012, 06:01 PM
The relevence of Jimmy Saville was to question the effectiveness of crb checks, as he was the most trusted dj in the country and would have cleared any crb check. I have noticed plenty of other threads going of topic.

I agree with you about the CRB stuff, however in this day and age you need to protect yourself, your brand, and other team members. If anything did happen or any horrid allegation made the first thing that would happen would be the judge or police asking the owner of the business "Well did you perform CRB check on this individual".

Many schools and local councils simply will not entertain any DJ or company that does not have a CRB check in place.


£29.99 would not cover the cost of a CRB Check (£44), plus the cost of reference checks, and a small contribution to advertising fees and in house training.

Modertor Edit:

A) Rule 16.

B) Unusure of what relevance Jimmy Saville has to this thread. Please keep to topic.

If we felt the applicant would be a good asset to the team, previous reviews about the DJ was excellent, and he or she was just what we was looking for then I'm sure Megamix Events wouldn't mind throwing in an extra £30-£40 as a contribution to make sure everything was done properly.

AJM your are missing a vital point here; and that is our; new 'Job Application' cost is not about making money or increasing profit, it's about making sure Megamix Events DOES NOT fork out £30-£70 on a DJ and then he or she decides that the position is not right for him or her. Our team members are extremely happy with the new rules as now money that was been spent previously on administration is been poured back to increase our work and on advertising/marketing.

You may not be happy with ideas like this, but you need to understand that the world evolves, new ideas start, and things change. And as a brand we continue to change on a daily basis.

Solitaire Events Ltd
22-11-2012, 06:35 PM
Hello DJDM,

All our DJ's throughout London receive text messages with gigs and the first one to respond will get the gig.



Sounds like a great way of raising the bar for the industry and getting the right DJ for the right job...

Sheesh...

Corabar Steve
22-11-2012, 07:54 PM
The relevence of Jimmy Saville was to question the effectiveness of crb checks, as he was the most trusted dj in the country and would have cleared any crb check. I have noticed plenty of other threads going of topic.

So, stuff all relevance to the actual topic then.

P.S. Please read the rules

ajm
22-11-2012, 08:03 PM
So, stuff all relevance to the actual topic then.

P.S. Please read the rules

No , not stuff all relevence to topic, sometimes the topic is expanded. It could become very boring if we never expanded on our thoughts.

I am also aware how things evolve in the world, I have run a disco and driving school for over 20 years and somethings don't change, like customer satisfaction, making a profit, and don't pay someone else to find you work when you can get it yourself.

Corabar Steve
22-11-2012, 09:10 PM
You may want to re -read the first post in this thread.


29. Instructions by the Moderators and Administrators must be followed.



Please do not post if you can't keep to the actual topic.

wensleydale
22-11-2012, 09:31 PM
Got a call from them yesterday at 9.42pm- strange time to call.
Replying to my ad in Gumtree which I didn't know I had.

DazzyD
22-11-2012, 09:50 PM
Text messages will only be sent to DJ's to meet a strict code for each client with specific skills and music knowledge, for example if a client wishes to have a 30th birthday with decks, house music, and the latest dance tunes those DJ's will be selected who are suitable.

This is not what you said in your original post and I quote:


All our DJ's throughout London receive text messages with gigs and the first one to respond will get the gig.



As clearly stated on our new jobs page we explain exactly what the payment is spent on, this includes: CRB checks, reference checks, a small contribution to our advertising fees and in house training. This is a brand new concept which will only improve the professionalism of the mobile disco industry, these charges are now made from many different industries such as social care work, media, and art.

Can't speak about media and art, however, social care goes hand in hand with the day job I do so I can comment on that. Many who work in social care get paid the National Minimum Wage and would struggle to pay any upfront fees such as this. In fact, I can't think of anyone working locally in the industry who has told me that had to pay themselves to be vetted. This is usually the responsibility of the employer not the employee.

However, although I don't believe it's right for an employer to charge a prospective employer for their own CRB disclosure, I do accept that it does happen in other parts of the UK with one North-West-based Care Provider being notorious for this practise. But, because it happens in other industries, isn't really a defence for repeating the practise in our industry.


There is no shortage of DJ's who are desperate to get into this field of freelance work, and this is our opportunity to select only the best with an in depth application and vetting process.

You see, I'd be really sceptical of this comment. If you weren't charging DJs to register with you, then I'd be more inclined to believe you. However, there is a financial incentive for you to have as many DJs as possible on your books. It's strange how money seems to cloud people's judgement when it comes to quality. Furthermore, it seems to me that this practise has the potential of flooding the industry with DJs who have come straight from the bedroom with no real live environment experience but who have a spare £30 lying around. I don't see how taking on DJs who pay you to pass them work can raise industry standards. In fact, I feel it might have the opposite effect of clients being paired up with DJs not suited to their needs and potential bad experiences ensuing.

Now, in the interests of fairness and clarity, I'm not for one minute suggesting that Megamix Events is anything other than legitimate or doesn't have the best interests of it's clients and DJs at heart. My comments are purely based on my own personal perception of how I perceive the business practises that have been discussed.


If however you do not receive at least one gig at £200.00 or more within the period, we will refund every penny back to you.

The query I raised regarding this issue was overlooked so I'd like to ask it again. You have promised full refunds to anyone who doesn't get at least one £200+ gig from you. What happens if your venture folds/gets in to financial difficulty? Do you have a plan to be able to fulfil your promise? I would assume that you'd use the registration fees as you get them rather than holding on to each one individually until the relevant DJ gets a gig and then you no longer need to make a refund. Or maybe you do do it this way. I'm not doubting your intention to keep this promise, but, I'd be interested to know if you've considered all eventualities.

megamixevents
23-11-2012, 12:08 AM
Got a call from them yesterday at 9.42pm- strange time to call.
Replying to my ad in Gumtree which I didn't know I had.

Yes quite a few adverts on Gumtree for your disco business, and when you type both your mobile and landline number into Google the web is a'wash with adverts you have placed all over... Your statement on your website re 'Advertising' rules seems to have gone well out the window. :)

ajm
23-11-2012, 09:16 AM
You may want to re -read the first post in this thread.





Please do not post if you can't keep to the actual topic.

I think your the one who wants to read the topic as you seem to be just trying to score points, or you are winding me up, either way I am bored of you now.
And if this site is run by you telling people who can and can't post then I am glad to leave the forum.

Regarding the edited word, I never thought mentioning the word which describes the two hairy things that all blokes have would be offensive.

Solitaire Events Ltd
23-11-2012, 09:43 AM
I think your the one who wants to read the topic as you seem to be just trying to score points, or you are winding me up, either way I am bored of you now.
And if this site is run by you telling people who can and can't post then I am glad to leave the forum.

Regarding the edited word, I never thought mentioning the word which describes the two hairy things that all blokes have would be offensive.

Steve has asked you to stick to the rules and keep on topic and you have ignored that, so I am placing you in the sin bin.

Corabar Steve
23-11-2012, 09:49 AM
Seeing as you don't seem to be able to comprehend Rule 29, let me spell it out for you nice & clearly.

The "Site Staff" badge in my signature indicates I am either an admin or a moderator. I am telling you (& other members) to keep this thread on topic regardless of whether we allow other threads to go off topic or not.

If you want to leave the forum, then fine, however if you don't & would like to be able to post without every one of your posts being reviewed before showing on the forum then please obey the rules (which you still don't appear to have read)

The reasoning behind the first edit of your post can be clearly seen if you read Rule 16:

16. Please refrain from using profanities or bad language. Please remember this Site is accessible to all age groups without restriction, so be mindful that children may be reading. There is a censor built into the forum which filters out most bad language and profanities, but please do not try to get around this by adding different characters or spaces into the word, or by providing some of the letters and filling in the rest with your own asterisks. Instead, kindly do not use such language in the first place. Bad language is strictly prohibited on the forum.

If you stick within the rules, you'll find out we're a very laid back bunch around here (although opinions may differ, things very rarely escalate to full blown rows). If you don't want to abide by the way things are run, then there are plenty of other forums & FB groups that you can post in to your hearts content without fear of being moderated (although the biggest FB DJ group that I know of also does not allow swearing)

Corabar Steve
23-11-2012, 09:51 AM
Sorry, typing at the same time as Darren.


however if you don't & would like to be able to post without every one of your posts being reviewed before showing on the forum then please obey the rules (which you still don't appear to have read)


Too late.