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megamixevents
29-11-2012, 05:26 PM
How many of us still use landlines or payphones compared with mobile phones?

I'm still seeing quite a few mobile disco companies that started around 80's and 90's giving out freephone numbers to client's.

Incoming calls to 0800 numbers are paid by the business that installs them. However, calls from mobile networks are not free since network operators do not include them in any bundled free minutes offered to customers. For mobile networks, the question of recovering infrastructure costs is one of the main reasons for not including any free minutes to 0800 numbers.

Therefore for the bigger percentage of telephone users using mobile phones, this is surly putting off huge amounts of clients. Why on earth would I want to pay 50p a minute on my mobile phone to call a mobile disco freephone number which isn't free for the majority of mobile users, mobile dj owners just need to advertise a simple to remember landline number and divert the calls for bookings etc to a mobile number therefore everyone is happy.

Dynamic Entertainment
29-11-2012, 05:30 PM
Once again...your facts arent 100% accurate.

Most mobile phone operators now have a bolt-on bundle (whatever you want to call it) where 0800, 0845, etc numbers become inclusive of their minutes. All for around £2.50p/m

I have a 0800 number and i have my mobile listed. If someone is ringing me off a mobile, they usually ring my mobile, if its a landline then its my 0800 that get rung...and on average, the 0800 phone rings at least once a day...so i must be doing something right....

megamixevents
29-11-2012, 05:42 PM
Once again...your facts arent 100% accurate.

Most mobile phone operators now have a bolt-on bundle (whatever you want to call it) where 0800, 0845, etc numbers become inclusive of their minutes. All for around £2.50p/m

I have a 0800 number and i have my mobile listed. If someone is ringing me off a mobile, they usually ring my mobile, if its a landline then its my 0800 that get rung...and on average, the 0800 phone rings at least once a day...so i must be doing something right....

Ok I hear what your saying and maybe in the future ofcom I believe maybe changing the law to make sure 0800 numbers are 100% free on all mobiles etc, in the meantime I would say advertising your 0800 but also a landline next to each other and providing that option. Your just giving that potential client a choice to make which may benefit them, it certainly would me.

Dynamic Entertainment
29-11-2012, 05:51 PM
Ok I hear what your saying and maybe in the future ofcom I believe maybe changing the law to make sure 0800 numbers are 100% free on all mobiles etc, in the meantime I would say advertising your 0800 but also a landline next to each other and providing that option. Your just giving that potential client a choice to make which may benefit them, it certainly would me.

I tried that...and found that I got random phone calls at ridiculous times.

As i work weekend evenings my free time is precious to me. My 0800 number is tethered to a dedicated mobile. That and my main mobile go everywhere with me, and can get switched off if the need arises.

I know if my landline rings at 10pm Monday night, its usually going to be friends or family. If my 0800 mobile rings at that time, and im having a quiet night in with the girlfriend then i can choose to let it go to voicemail, or switch it off accordingly.

When people ring me through the day, they often get surprised when I answer....the usual reason is because they thought they would need to leave a message because I would be "at work"....

If I want to foot the bill for someone ringing me then thats my choice...0845 is a different kettle of fish though....

megamixevents
29-11-2012, 06:13 PM
I tried that...and found that I got random phone calls at ridiculous times.

As i work weekend evenings my free time is precious to me. My 0800 number is tethered to a dedicated mobile. That and my main mobile go everywhere with me, and can get switched off if the need arises.

I know if my landline rings at 10pm Monday night, its usually going to be friends or family. If my 0800 mobile rings at that time, and im having a quiet night in with the girlfriend then i can choose to let it go to voicemail, or switch it off accordingly.

When people ring me through the day, they often get surprised when I answer....the usual reason is because they thought they would need to leave a message because I would be "at work"....

If I want to foot the bill for someone ringing me then thats my choice...0845 is a different kettle of fish though....

But if you advertised a landline number you can divert this to your mobile and switch if off when you sleep and stick a funky answer machine message on.

Dynamic Entertainment
29-11-2012, 06:57 PM
But if you advertised a landline number you can divert this to your mobile and switch if off when you sleep and stick a funky answer machine message on.

Landlines arent all they seem.... Vodafones One Net Express for example.

What does it matter...

Clients have the choice to contact me via my mobile...using whichever means they choose, and most use their mobiles because its inclusive minutes.

If I had a landline, some people (who only get free evenings and weekends on their landline) would still be charged to ring me, as it stands, they dont.

I dont see why your so bothered about other peoples businesses...I would concentrate on your own and accept the fact that what works for some, not for others.

And by the way...just checked my landline provider...it cost me more per month for a divert than my 0800 number costs....go figure...

mattydinx
29-11-2012, 07:56 PM
I always provide both my geographic land line number and mobile - they're one and the same technically!

My landline is VoIP and thanks to a SIP client on my phone, my number follows me around wherever I go in addition to having a VoIP phone on my desk :)

I think in this day and age most people have some form of inclusive minutes to mobiles, landlines or both so call cost isn't really an issue....is it? (with the exception of 0845/0844 of course)

EDIT: It also allows me to have a Newcastle Upon-Tyne area code (0191-4) even though I live in Northumberland and should have 01670. Company image, looking like I'm more central to the North-East than I actually am (albeit by 15 miles or so)

megamixevents
29-11-2012, 08:07 PM
I always provide both my geographic land line number and mobile - they're one and the same technically!

My landline is VoIP and thanks to a SIP client on my phone, my number follows me around wherever I go in addition to having a VoIP phone on my desk :)

I think in this day and age most people have some form of inclusive minutes to mobiles, landlines or both so call cost isn't really an issue....is it? (with the exception of 0845/0844 of course)

EDIT: It also allows me to have a Newcastle Upon-Tyne area code (0191-4) even though I live in Northumberland and should have 01670. Company image, looking like I'm more central to the North-East than I actually am (albeit by 15 miles or so)

I think I would consider having an 0871 for my lower package and landline for my higher packages.

mattydinx
29-11-2012, 08:18 PM
Why so?

First thing I do if I see an 0844/0845/0870/0871 number is have a scoot for a geographical number on their website/google, or type it into www.saynoto0870.com

That's just me though, I'm tight with cash lol

megamixevents
29-11-2012, 08:24 PM
Why so?

First thing I do if I see an 0844/0845/0870/0871 number is have a scoot for a geographical number on their website/google, or type it into www.saynoto0870.com

That's just me though, I'm tight with cash lol

Same here but most don't know this.

Dynamic Entertainment
29-11-2012, 08:32 PM
I think I would consider having an 0871 for my lower package and landline for my higher packages.

PMSL...this getts better and better. So your lowest package...the one that people on a tight budget would usually use (and then assuming that they are on a tight budget because they are on low income)...you would single that type of client out to have to pay a high rate to call you...and you make money of it!!!

You :muppet:

DJ Jules
29-11-2012, 08:52 PM
My personal opinion is that it's pretty much irrelevant these days. Most people don't look twice at the numbers they're calling unless they don't have the money to pay for a disco in the first place and their pay as you go mobile is about to run out of credit. :D

I've run businesses with both 0870, 0845 and mobile numbers and have had equal numbers of calls to all options.

I've just revamped all my stationary and I've just bought a 99p SIM and stuck a mobile number on everything, I very much doubt it's going to deter any of my clients. A significant proportion of my recurring business now just text me with their function dates anyway!!

Julian

megamixevents
29-11-2012, 08:59 PM
PMSL...this getts better and better. So your lowest package...the one that people on a tight budget would usually use (and then assuming that they are on a tight budget because they are on low income)...you would single that type of client out to have to pay a high rate to call you...and you make money of it!!!

You :muppet:


You really do need to not only go on a customer relations course, but also to understand websites and business techniques. Seriously I'm very surprised you have any bookings at all, you really do not have a clue about business :daft:

Dynamic Entertainment
29-11-2012, 09:03 PM
You really do need to not only go on a customer relations course, but also to understand websites and business techniques. Seriously I'm very surprised you have any bookings at all, you really do not have a clue about business :daft:

Why...can you please explain to me why you feel the need to penalise your budget end customers by having them call a premium rate number?

Shaun
29-11-2012, 09:25 PM
Seriously I'm very surprised you have any bookings at all, you really do not have a clue about business :daft:

Is there any need for throwing insults?

May I remind you of the following forum rule...


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megamixevents
29-11-2012, 09:58 PM
Is there any need for throwing insults?

May I remind you of the following forum rule...

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If you can't be trusted to post in a professional on non-insulting manner then your posts will have to be moderated and filtered prior to going live. You may notice a delay before posting and your posts going live from this point forward.

PMSL...this getts better and better. So your lowest package...the one that people on a tight budget would usually use (and then assuming that they are on a tight budget because they are on low income)...you would single that type of client out to have to pay a high rate to call you...and you make money of it!!!

You

And calling somebody a muppit is acceptable and many insulting words and threats of coming to my home, which have been ignored by yourself Shaun.

I've said what i've needed to say on here..like many of the newbies and the ones that slightly standout out from the little tight crew that exist here and virtually killed off what could have been a good website.


Cheerio xxx

Corabar Steve
29-11-2012, 10:10 PM
threats of coming to my homeI have just read every thread posted today & the only reference to visiting you was with regard to relieving you of some coffee & Hobnobs


Cheerio xxx

Are you leaving? Bye then. :HappySteve:

Shaun
29-11-2012, 10:12 PM
PMSL...this getts better and better. So your lowest package...the one that people on a tight budget would usually use (and then assuming that they are on a tight budget because they are on low income)...you would single that type of client out to have to pay a high rate to call you...and you make money of it!!!

You

And calling somebody a muppit is acceptable and many insulting words and threats of coming to my home, which have been ignored by yourself Shaun.

I've said what i've needed to say on here..like many of the newbies and the ones that slightly standout out from the little tight crew that exist here and virtually killed off what could have been a good website.


Cheerio xxx

Where have you been threatened?

The only thing I can see is someone asking if he can have a coffee and hobnobs, and you stating you don't mind. It definitely wasn't a threat of any sort as far as I can see.

Funny how you like to twist things. Every post you make I'm convinced you are here to troll.

Goodbye.


I understand - how about that invite over for coffee and hobnobs then?


Look I don't mind you peeps meeting our little team for our extra thick hob knobs and coffee but I'll have to arrange security.

funkymook
29-11-2012, 10:17 PM
and threats of coming to my home, which have been ignored by yourself Shaun.


I hope that doesn't refer to me Ryan, I'm probably the least threatening person you're ever likely to meet.

It was a genuine offer to meet another local DJ and have a chat, remember you were the one interested in having a specialist DJ on your books - networking is important. I don't take much notice of forum talk and arguments as in real life people can be totally different, so I don't form an impression of someone until I meet them.

I will give you a bell when I'm nearby and have a coffee with you, I'll even bring the biscuits.

Shaun
29-11-2012, 10:27 PM
I hope that doesn't refer to me Ryan, I'm probably the least threatening person you're ever likely to meet.



:agree:

That's why I was so shocked at his allegation. Having looked back at some of the posts I can't see anyone else that he can be referring to with regards to perceived threats.

Again another instance of him "posting for effect" I think. Again, classic internet troll behaviour.

Dynamic Entertainment
29-11-2012, 10:52 PM
Please can you answer the below question...


Why...can you please explain to me why you feel the need to penalise your budget end customers by having them call a premium rate number?

Im genuinely trying to figure out the the mindset needed to think its acceptable to make one "type" of client call a premium rate number and not another.

Dynamic Entertainment
29-11-2012, 11:42 PM
AHEM Chaps! Further off-topic posts will be deleted.

Sorry Angela....did try to edit to keep on topic...but you beat me to it.

So Ben. whats your take on 0800 numbers? useful or not...or indifferent?

funkymook
29-11-2012, 11:43 PM
I've always believed customers liked seeing landlines on websites, it gives them more confidence you're not a fly by night company. Not sure if that's still true (or if it ever was).

Excalibur
30-11-2012, 04:02 PM
One or two Non-Disco companies are waking up to this 0800 anomaly. For many many years, I had a mobile phone tariff which gave me free/inclusive 0800 calls, but when I was forced to update it, I lost that. Screwfix and Toolstation offer geographical numbers as well, thus catering for most mobile users. It's not that difficult.

paulg
30-11-2012, 04:02 PM
No need to say anything now