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super-hero
29-12-2012, 08:16 PM
Just wondering how many items you get tested every year.
I am on 138 so far, and that doesn't include any 16amp or 32amp stuff. But that's a job for another day.
Just wondering how many items you get tested every year.
I am on 138 so far, and that doesn't include any 16amp or 32amp stuff. But that's a job for another day.
Did it in June and it was about 80. I have quite a bit of extra stuff now so looking about 100 i reckon.
leelive
29-12-2012, 08:49 PM
I don't Portable Appliance Test Test anything.
I have had 88 items certified with a Portable Appliance Test last year.
I wish folk would stop saying Test Test. It bugs me just as much as when folk ask for my Personal Idenitifcation Number Number. Why not say P.I. Number.... or in this case P.A Test.
Lee
Glenski
29-12-2012, 08:52 PM
I don't Portable Appliance Test Test anything.
I have had 88 items certified with a Portable Appliance Test last year.
I wish folk would stop saying Test Test. It bugs me just as much as when folk ask for my Personal Idenitifcation Number Number. Why not say P.I. Number.... or in this case P.A Test.
Lee
Calm down dear !! ........... Portable Appliance Testing [TEST] ............... Short pier ........................... long run and .............. [JUMP JUMP]
super-hero
29-12-2012, 09:03 PM
I know what you mean Lee, but P.A.Test just doesn't sound right.
So maybe I should say P.A.T certified, that sounds ok.
Maybe the moderators could change the title of the thread. Thanks.
chrisj
29-12-2012, 10:04 PM
I tested 145 last year and that included 40 LED par uplighters and power leads + 4 power amps. although I am now active, well 1 power amp for standby RCF's I have reduced considerably and expect around 100 this year. To be tested in my garage without heating in February.
DazzyD
29-12-2012, 10:19 PM
I had 63 items in total tested last year. After the first year's fiasco (I've posted on here about that before - when I was ripped off by an unscrupulous company who took me for a mug!) I decided it was easier for me to get things tested in batches as I have to take the gear to the tester (the guy I use has a workshop and is not mobile). I split the kit in to 3 batches tested over a 3 three month period as this was easier for me. But a lot of this is lighting effects and power cable extensions.
I don't Portable Appliance Test Test anything.
I have had 88 items certified with a Portable Appliance Test last year.
I wish folk would stop saying Test Test. It bugs me just as much as when folk ask for my Personal Idenitifcation Number Number. Why not say P.I. Number.... or in this case P.A Test.
Lee
Who on earth asks you for your P.I.N.? Even your card issuer would not ask for that. As for the repeated words, anyone who did recent History at school will know that the "D" in D-Day simply stands for "Day" as the word was repeated twice, intentionally, to reinforce the importance of that date in British history. But I've never heard anyone complaining about it!
I know what you mean Lee, but P.A.Test just doesn't sound right.
So maybe I should say P.A.T certified, that sounds ok.
Maybe the moderators could change the title of the thread. Thanks.
I think "PAT Test" is a commonly accepted phrase and, as such, can't see any reason for the need to change how you say it. Just because it bugs someone doesn't mean it's wrong to say it. The word "basically" really bugs my ex but I'm not going to stop saying it (in fact, winding her up is one of the few pleasures I still have in life!! ;) ).
Solitaire Events Ltd
30-12-2012, 01:54 AM
Have a day off Lee...
Corabar Steve
30-12-2012, 07:53 AM
Portable Appliance Test, being the test that you do & the second test or testing being the act of doing it. Simple when you actually think about it.
Excalibur
30-12-2012, 11:35 AM
My initial response was that Lee is correct. That's how I've always seen it. However, I have to say that I can find no fault in Steve's proposition, and believe it to be logical and accurate. Well done Steve, I doff my cap to you.
Daryll
30-12-2012, 01:26 PM
I think I have around 80-90 every year.
Daryll
surround sounds
30-12-2012, 04:03 PM
In total 187 last year and around the same this year
Jim - Scotland's Party DJ
02-01-2013, 11:27 PM
I had 63 items in total tested last year. After the first year's fiasco (I've posted on here about that before - when I was ripped off by an unscrupulous company who took me for a mug!)
As for the repeated words, anyone who did recent History at school will know that the "D" in D-Day simply stands for "Day" as the word was repeated twice, intentionally, to reinforce the importance of that date in British history. But I've never heard anyone complaining about it!
Link or details about the fiasco? I'm just about to get PAT tested and the guy I used to use has retired so I'm a bit apprehensive about finding a new reliable and trustworthy one. A bit like mechanics these PAT guys!!!
BTW the D in D-day doesn't actually stand for anything. It's a military term to help with planning as they couldn't plan for a specific date as there was such a high chance of things changing (weather, other operations in Europe and the other fronts, geo-political events etc...) and the date moving from the original planned one. Calling it D-Day made it easier as you could plan for D-Day + or - days. e.g. D-day -365 would be exactly a year before the invasion was planned, D-Day+7 would be a week after the landings. If they'd said 6th of June and things hadn't run on time, all of the plans would have been out. I'm pretty sure it's still used by militaries today.
But I digress. I moonlight as a History teacher when not doing my real vocation :D
DazzyD
03-01-2013, 12:56 AM
Link or details about the fiasco? I'm just about to get PAT tested and the guy I used to use has retired so I'm a bit apprehensive about finding a new reliable and trustworthy one. A bit like mechanics these PAT guys!!!
BTW the D in D-day doesn't actually stand for anything. It's a military term to help with planning as they couldn't plan for a specific date as there was such a high chance of things changing (weather, other operations in Europe and the other fronts, geo-political events etc...) and the date moving from the original planned one. Calling it D-Day made it easier as you could plan for D-Day + or - days. e.g. D-day -365 would be exactly a year before the invasion was planned, D-Day+7 would be a week after the landings. If they'd said 6th of June and things hadn't run on time, all of the plans would have been out. I'm pretty sure it's still used by militaries today.
But I digress. I moonlight as a History teacher when not doing my real vocation :D
The PAT testing situation I can't find a link to (it was some time ago). The first time I had my kit PAT tested, the guy I used took my eyes out!! He took advantage of me being a bit naive with regards to the PAT testing process and what does and what doesn't need PAT testing. He "tested" (and charged for) a number of items which didn't need testing. For example, a set of 4 par cans and a par can controller he "tested" as 5 separate units. However, I later found that it should have only been one unit as only the controller needed testing. The one light effect that should have been an immediate PAT fail (the cable grommet had come lose which was exposing some cores of the cable) should not have passed the visual inspection but he passed it! He also charged about 2-3 times the per unit price that everyone else was charging. Thankfully, he stopped trading soon after and the following year I found myself a decent, reliable PAT tester.
As for the D-Day thing, there are several sources of information on the subject including this factsheet from the National World War II Museum in the USA:
http://www.nationalww2museum.org/assets/pdfs/the-meaning-of-dday-fact.pdf
I also found this answer in the online archives of the Imperial War Museum but I'm not able to track it down again.
Shaun
03-01-2013, 01:09 AM
I don't Portable Appliance Test Test anything.
I have had 88 items certified with a Portable Appliance Test last year.
I wish folk would stop saying Test Test. It bugs me just as much as when folk ask for my Personal Idenitifcation Number Number. Why not say P.I. Number.... or in this case P.A Test.
Lee
There's no denying that you're 100% correct. That said, I use the term PAT Test, quite simply because I feel it rolls off the tongue better. I say pin number too.
Creature
03-01-2013, 02:11 AM
last year was 308 items :(
this year will be less as slimming down on spare cables n bits
Jim - Scotland's Party DJ
03-01-2013, 12:56 PM
The PAT testing situation I can't find a link to (it was some time ago). The first time I had my kit PAT tested, the guy I used took my eyes out!! He took advantage of me being a bit naive with regards to the PAT testing process and what does and what doesn't need PAT testing. He "tested" (and charged for) a number of items which didn't need testing. For example, a set of 4 par cans and a par can controller he "tested" as 5 separate units. However, I later found that it should have only been one unit as only the controller needed testing. The one light effect that should have been an immediate PAT fail (the cable grommet had come lose which was exposing some cores of the cable) should not have passed the visual inspection but he passed it! He also charged about 2-3 times the per unit price that everyone else was charging. Thankfully, he stopped trading soon after and the following year I found myself a decent, reliable PAT tester.
As for the D-Day thing, there are several sources of information on the subject including this factsheet from the National World War II Museum in the USA:
http://www.nationalww2museum.org/assets/pdfs/the-meaning-of-dday-fact.pdf
I also found this answer in the online archives of the Imperial War Museum but I'm not able to track it down again.
Thanks for the info. I've used a guy I've known for years so could rely on him but having to go and find someone else now is making me a bit nervous.
spin mobile disco
03-01-2013, 08:18 PM
Around 110 this year slightly less last year.
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