What watt speakers????

[leeroy]

Hi guys just want to pick your brains, have been doing lots of childrens partys but have had a few bookings lately for adult disco's, my speakers are RCL 300 watt max and im using a 500 watt amp, I have done 2 adult disco's approx 150 to 200 people, I want to do more adult gigs but my current set up doesn,t pack a big enough punch, been looking at some skytec 1600 watt active speakers, still pretty new to the dj/disco scene so unsure what watt I really need for this type of venue i.e 150 to 200 people???? Really appreciate any pointers!!!:)

[Corabar Steve]

Please take the time to post in the CORRECT section of the forum.

Thread moved

(Must be in a good mood, normally would've just closed it)

[SamV]

What you need is some subs and then to high pass those speakers at around 120hz.

[Djanddisco]

What's your budget? Also is your amp 500w per side or 250 per side and at what ohm (will make a big difference to the type of speakers you can run on it)
Personally for adults party's 100-150 I would have a minimum of 15" 400-500 watt per side, for party's of 200+ I would look at having a sub or 2.

I should should also mention wattage isn't everything, you want to look at the max spl which will give you a better idea of the volume output you'll get.

[Excalibur]

What you need is some subs and then to high pass those speakers at around 120hz.

Quite likely to be a very good idea, and can I please urge you to pop over to the newbies section and introduce yourself? It's nice to know a bit about who we're conversing with. Also, it tends to get better results. Thank you.

As stated above, knowing the make and model of your amp, and the impedance ( ohms) of your speakers would help a lot. Adding subs is a very good idea, but may not be the best suggestion in this case. Let's see what we're dealing with.

[SamV]

Quite likely to be a very good idea, and can I please urge you to pop over to the newbies section and introduce yourself? It's nice to know a bit about who we're conversing with. Also, it tends to get better results. Thank you.

As stated above, knowing the make and model of your amp, and the impedance ( ohms) of your speakers would help a lot. Adding subs is a very good idea, but may not be the best suggestion in this case. Let's see what we're dealing with.

I did do but I guess there's an approval period for new members.

[Excalibur]

I did do but I guess there's an approval period for new members. Oops. :o:o Perhaps I haven't seen it yet, in which case I apologise. If it hasn't been approved yet, I'll wander off and do it in a minute.

Leeroy, I've had a think about your needs, and I'm about to exhibit "Do as I say, not as I do". One way of boosting* your sound with two more boxes would be to buy a pair of powered cabs ( the ones with an amp strapped inside each one). Regular readers will know of my feelings about these, but it would give you backup in case of amp failure, and more versatility. ( You could spread them out to cover bigger areas with sound when needed. )
I worry that if you're trying to get a lot out of your existing amp, it may not like the extra work, and turn awkward.



* Boost. Not double. Don't ask for the explanation, just believe me, it's true.

[Corabar Entertainment]

I'm very surprised that nobody has come out with the usual reply. Altogether now.....


You can't hear watts!


:D:D:D:D

[SamV]

You can't hear watts!


:D:D:D:D

Tell that to Sherlock :daft:

[leeroy]

Quite likely to be a very good idea, and can I please urge you to pop over to the newbies section and introduce yourself? It's nice to know a bit about who we're conversing with. Also, it tends to get better results. Thank you.

As stated above, knowing the make and model of your amp, and the impedance ( ohms) of your speakers would help a lot. Adding subs is a very good idea, but may not be the best suggestion in this case. Let's see what we're dealing with.

Hi I have already been to the newbie section and did the intro back in October of last year!!

A also apologise for posting in the wrong area please excuse my ignorance lol and for not deleting the post!!

Im using RCL CM1210 300 Watt peak @ 8 ohm speakers.
A stage line STA160 500 Watt amp
I also have a Biema W220 Mark 2 Amp (2x200 Watts @ 8 ohm)

Was looking at getting some Skytec 1600 W powered cabs but have read so many conflicting reviews its a nightmare when your starting out and not 100% sure. As I said before any advice is greatfully accepted, right off to do a party for 4 year olds!!! Wish me luck LOL!!!

[Excalibur]

Hi I have already been to the newbie section and did the intro back in October of last year!!

Ahem. I know it wasn't crystal clear, but when I said that, it was in response to Sam V, which is wht I quoted him. ;)

I didn't make the distinction between who I was addressing obvious enough, and I can see how the confusion arose. My fault entirely.




Im using RCL CM1210 300 Watt peak @ 8 ohm speakers.
A stage line STA160 500 Watt amp
I also have a Biema W220 Mark 2 Amp (2x200 Watts @ 8 ohm)

Was looking at getting some Skytec 1600 W powered cabs but have read so many conflicting reviews its a nightmare when your starting out and not 100% sure. As I said before any advice is greatfully accepted, right off to do a party for 4 year olds!!! Wish me luck LOL!!!

First off, let's have an idea of budget , since there's no point in us suggesting you buy two thousand pounds worth of RCF rig, when your budget is two hundred pounds.

Since you have two amps and one set of cabs, you're already covered for backup, and the normal answer would be to get a crossover and a set of subs. However, your amps are too small to run a rig like that to its full potential, and you'd need aat least one bigger amp as well, so let's try another route. I'd recommend a pair of active ( powered ) cabs, and keep your existing ons for backup/infill etc.

Which pair of actives? ? Well I'm not an expert on actives, but Warrior (W Audio) are fine, PSR12A or PSR15A. Beware though, those blighters are heavy. Alto get reasonable reports normally,something like this (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ALTO-Truesonic-TS112A-Active-Speaker-New-Boxed-/300849298271?pt=UK_Sound_Vision_Speakers_Monitor&hash=item460c03fb5f) and Behringers like these (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Behringer-EUROLIVE-VP1220D-12-550W-Active-Speaker-/140711902156?pt=UK_Sound_Vision_Speakers_Monitor&hash=item20c3153bcc) would be on the shortlist.

Good secondhand branded names would probably give better value than new cheap kit. If you could find a secondhand pair of V2 Mackie SRM450s, they'd be perfect.

QTX sound, RCL, Soundlab, Skytec, and the like are fine for what they cost, but may not deliver years of faultless performance on the road.

Hope this has given you food for thought.

[yourdj]

Please take the time to post in the CORRECT section of the forum.

Thread moved

(Must be in a good mood, normally would've just closed it)

Usual diplomatic reply :p Good mood indeed.



I use RCF speakers and only run them on 125 watts so you need to look at max SPL. 127+ is a good figure.
Wats even at RMS are difficult to quantify. Brand names are everything from what i have learnt??

Good luck.

[Djanddisco]

I have to agree with excalibur, an active sub or too seems your best way forward.
I think before anyone can make any recommendations we need to know how much you want/can spend.

[leeroy]

Ahem. I know it wasn't crystal clear, but when I said that, it was in response to Sam V, which is wht I quoted him. ;)

I didn't make the distinction between who I was addressing obvious enough, and I can see how the confusion arose. My fault entirely.




First off, let's have an idea of budget , since there's no point in us suggesting you buy two thousand pounds worth of RCF rig, when your budget is two hundred pounds.

Since you have two amps and one set of cabs, you're already covered for backup, and the normal answer would be to get a crossover and a set of subs. However, your amps are too small to run a rig like that to its full potential, and you'd need aat least one bigger amp as well, so let's try another route. I'd recommend a pair of active ( powered ) cabs, and keep your existing ons for backup/infill etc.

Which pair of actives? ? Well I'm not an expert on actives, but Warrior (W Audio) are fine, PSR12A or PSR15A. Beware though, those blighters are heavy. Alto get reasonable reports normally,something like this (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ALTO-Truesonic-TS112A-Active-Speaker-New-Boxed-/300849298271?pt=UK_Sound_Vision_Speakers_Monitor&hash=item460c03fb5f) and Behringers like these (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Behringer-EUROLIVE-VP1220D-12-550W-Active-Speaker-/140711902156?pt=UK_Sound_Vision_Speakers_Monitor&hash=item20c3153bcc) would be on the shortlist.

Good secondhand branded names would probably give better value than new cheap kit. If you could find a secondhand pair of V2 Mackie SRM450s, they'd be perfect.

QTX sound, RCL, Soundlab, Skytec, and the like are fine for what they cost, but may not deliver years of faultless performance on the road.

Hope this has given you food for thought.

Thanks for the advice budget is quite low at the moment as we are just starting out, but may follow your advice and keep my eyes open and try and get a 2nd hand branded set of powered cabs, many thanks for the advice!!

[Excalibur]

I have to agree with Excalibur, an active sub or two seems your best way forward.
I think before anyone can make any recommendations we need to know how much you want/can spend.

Except I didn't say subs. While adding subs is a good idea, and would let his tops run more easily, the cabs he has are firmly budget, and his amps are small. Therefore, any subs of any quality will overpower them, and he'll struggle to get a good sound balance without running his subs very low. That's why I'd go for powered full-range cabs, and keep what he has as backup. A secondhand pair of decent actives would easily beat what he has now with a pair of subs underneath. In my humble opinion. Budget may yet be the limiting factor, or we'd all have suggested a pair 15" RCF's as the best answer. :D

[Djanddisco]

Except I didn't say subs. While adding subs is a good idea, and would let his tops run more easily, the cabs he has are firmly budget, and his amps are small. Therefore, any subs of any quality will overpower them, and he'll struggle to get a good sound balance without running his subs very low. That's why I'd go for powered full-range cabs, and keep what he has as backup. A secondhand pair of decent actives would easily beat what he has now with a pair of subs underneath. In my humble opinion. Budget may yet be the limiting factor, or we'd all have suggested a pair 15" RCF's as the best answer. :D

Oops apologies, misread your post. :zip:
I think both suggestions would work:p